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Today's Topics:

   1. My first attempt on a linear bird (Mvivona)
   2. Fwd:  My first attempt on a linear bird (Mvivona)
   3. Field Day Operations (wa7eth@xxxxxxxx.xxxx
   4. AO-7 Oldest? (Nicholas Mahr)
   5. Re: AO-7 Oldest? (Paul Stoetzer)
   6. Re: AO-7 (Joe)
   7. Re: AO-7 (Paul Stoetzer)
   8. Re: AO-7 (Joe)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:29:45 -0400
From: Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] My first attempt on a linear bird
Message-ID: <465955E3-7217-44D7-A256-4566814CE311@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

OK, I just tried my first attempt on FO-29. I have done SO-50 FM with great
success,  but now it's on to the scary SSB bird.
I was setup with dual IC7000, one for TX (VHF/LSB) and one for RX (UHF/LSB).
 The RX rig was being controlled by computer. During the pass I could hear
someone calling. I adjusted the frequency just a little and he sounded nice
a clear. I moved a little away from his freq and began to transmit to see if
I could hear my return. Immediately heard my return, but no matter what I
did could not get it to sound clear. It was real high pitched sounding. If I
dialed it down it would start to get close to the right pitch, but then get
so weak that I couldn't hear it. I was dialing my TX rig.
Any thoughts?

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:55 AM, David <dwarnberg@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

I'll throw in 2 cents of my own based on my experiences as a newbie to the
whole SAT communication world, I'm no expert.

First I started with an HT and an Arrow antenna just wanting to listen...
naturally after a few short successful passes where I heard conversations I
was hooked.

I already had HRD (latest version) that I used with my TS-590 so the SAT
portion of it was a shoe in for me I thought.  So I did my research and
stepped up and bought a shiny new IC-9100.  So here is where it all starts.

Hooked up the new IC9100 and started playing.. HRD would control the rig
without issue, but it didn't put it in "SAT" mode when I was attempting to
track a sat pass.. after several attempts I finally figured it out...
mostly, it does track and control your rig "ok" with SATS like SO-50, but no
tone control, attempted FO-29.. no go, it would control receive side but not
the transmit side correctly.. more testing..  my ultimate goal here (being a
newbie) was to have software control the rig so I could concentrate on the
communication without having to deal with radio tuning as well (although the
IC-9100 makes that very easy now that I have it figured out)..

Anyway, to make a long story short I got frustrated with HRD (keep in mind
I'm using egg beaters with pre amps, no rotator control necessary), so I
gave SATPC32 a shot.. As most have stated the learning curve it higher with
SATPC32 however it does handle the IC-9100 SAT control quite well, puts the
rig in SAT mode, tunes both receive and transmit sides correctly regardless
of SAT mode (FM, linear inverting, etc).. it's not pretty but it works
well..

So bottom line, to each his own... My suggestion is to do your research,
check out all options and test.. then test some more, find what works for
you.

My preference for SAT work is SATPC32 to control the rig, Heavens Above on
my tablet to see what's coming...

Thanks

David,  KK4QOE

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of David W0DHB
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:53 AM
To: 'Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)'; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds

Michael

My experience with HRD for linear birds got some different results than
others have observed.
- I found the Doppler tuning worked very well, I did test it side by side
with SATPC32 as well as QSOs with others using SATPC32 and we tracked each
other well.
- I did like the user interface
- I would recommend it for hf/Terrestrial operations

But... After a year or so of struggling with HRD for satellite operations, I
am now a happy SatPC32 user.

Several reasons:
HRD is focusing on their main products, HRD rig control and the logging
software About halfway through the beta program they broke Doppler Tuning
for PowerSDR/SmartSDR (Flex Radios) and it still doesn't work.
Satellite Rig control for any radio I tried, TS2000 and IC9100 did not set
TX/RX modes.
I never could get IC9100 Satellite rig control working properly with it.

SatPC32 is not the most glamorous user interface, but is very feature rich,
I am still learning new things about its' capabilities.
SatPC32 was developed by an Amateur satellite expert who uses it for his own
operations, its' functionality has evolved over many years based on many
hours of operation by amateurs world-wide.

My $.02

Dave
W0DHB

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Vivona,
Michael (CMG-Orlando)
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:43 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds

I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear
birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to
one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual
problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for
anyone that wants to jump in on this.

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 17:45:16 -0400
From: Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>" <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd:  My first attempt on a linear bird
Message-ID: <F671F9FF-24CB-4804-B59A-F2D6AB245D8D@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Ahhhh, I see I miss-typed. I was actually on LSB for the VHF side and USB on
the UHF side. I will probably get a billion responses on the previous email.
Ha.

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

Begin forwarded message:

From: Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Date: June 25, 2015 at 5:29:45 PM EDT
To: "<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] My first attempt on a linear bird
Reply-To: Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>

OK, I just tried my first attempt on FO-29. I have done SO-50 FM with great
success,  but now it's on to the scary SSB bird.
I was setup with dual IC7000, one for TX (VHF/LSB) and one for RX (UHF/LSB).
 The RX rig was being controlled by computer. During the pass I could hear
someone calling. I adjusted the frequency just a little and he sounded nice
a clear. I moved a little away from his freq and began to transmit to see if
I could hear my return. Immediately heard my return, but no matter what I
did could not get it to sound clear. It was real high pitched sounding. If I
dialed it down it would start to get close to the right pitch, but then get
so weak that I couldn't hear it. I was dialing my TX rig.
Any thoughts?

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Jun 25, 2015, at 9:55 AM, David <dwarnberg@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

I'll throw in 2 cents of my own based on my experiences as a newbie to the
whole SAT communication world, I'm no expert.

First I started with an HT and an Arrow antenna just wanting to listen...
naturally after a few short successful passes where I heard conversations I
was hooked.

I already had HRD (latest version) that I used with my TS-590 so the SAT
portion of it was a shoe in for me I thought.  So I did my research and
stepped up and bought a shiny new IC-9100.  So here is where it all starts.

Hooked up the new IC9100 and started playing.. HRD would control the rig
without issue, but it didn't put it in "SAT" mode when I was attempting to
track a sat pass.. after several attempts I finally figured it out...
mostly, it does track and control your rig "ok" with SATS like SO-50, but no
tone control, attempted FO-29.. no go, it would control receive side but not
the transmit side correctly.. more testing..  my ultimate goal here (being a
newbie) was to have software control the rig so I could concentrate on the
communication without having to deal with radio tuning as well (although the
IC-9100 makes that very easy now that I have it figured out)..

Anyway, to make a long story short I got frustrated with HRD (keep in mind
I'm using egg beaters with pre amps, no rotator control necessary), so I
gave SATPC32 a shot.. As most have stated the learning curve it higher with
SATPC32 however it does handle the IC-9100 SAT control quite well, puts the
rig in SAT mode, tunes both receive and transmit sides correctly regardless
of SAT mode (FM, linear inverting, etc).. it's not pretty but it works
well..

So bottom line, to each his own... My suggestion is to do your research,
check out all options and test.. then test some more, find what works for
you.

My preference for SAT work is SATPC32 to control the rig, Heavens Above on
my tablet to see what's coming...

Thanks

David,  KK4QOE

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of David W0DHB
Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2015 12:53 AM
To: 'Vivona, Michael (CMG-Orlando)'; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds

Michael

My experience with HRD for linear birds got some different results than
others have observed.
- I found the Doppler tuning worked very well, I did test it side by side
with SATPC32 as well as QSOs with others using SATPC32 and we tracked each
other well.
- I did like the user interface
- I would recommend it for hf/Terrestrial operations

But... After a year or so of struggling with HRD for satellite operations, I
am now a happy SatPC32 user.

Several reasons:
HRD is focusing on their main products, HRD rig control and the logging
software About halfway through the beta program they broke Doppler Tuning
for PowerSDR/SmartSDR (Flex Radios) and it still doesn't work.
Satellite Rig control for any radio I tried, TS2000 and IC9100 did not set
TX/RX modes.
I never could get IC9100 Satellite rig control working properly with it.

SatPC32 is not the most glamorous user interface, but is very feature rich,
I am still learning new things about its' capabilities.
SatPC32 was developed by an Amateur satellite expert who uses it for his own
operations, its' functionality has evolved over many years based on many
hours of operation by amateurs world-wide.

My $.02

Dave
W0DHB

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Vivona,
Michael (CMG-Orlando)
Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2015 10:43 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] HRD and linear birds

I am trying to get a clarification about using HamRadioDeluxe and linear
birds. I have heard on several occasions that HRD and its associated
satellite tracking module works fine for FM birds but not for linear birds.
Can someone please clarify what the actual issue is? I currently have HRD
version 6X and I am looking to purchase an IC9100 to mate it with. I have
contacted the HRD support folks, but the answer I get is: "not sure, try
it". Well, I don't have the IC9100 yet so I can't try it.
I have permission from my local AES outlet store to connect up my laptop to
one of there IC9100 before I buy it. So, I need to know what the actual
problem is with HRD and linear birds so I can try it in person.
I hope to get to the bottom of this once and for all.thanks in advance for
anyone that wants to jump in on this.

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad
_______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 00:09:01 +0000 (UTC)
From: "wa7eth@xxxxxxxx.xxxx <wa7eth@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field Day Operations
Message-ID:
<1173233987.382736.1435277341365.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

The Snohomish County Washington HAMS Club WA7LAW will be participating in
Field Day this year. ?I will be operating the satellite station for the
club. ?Unfortunately, it looks like there is only one real good pass
available on FO-29 for us, and that is at 2233Z. ?I will be in the upper end
of the passband, around 435.870MHZ ?+/- Doppler. ?Please look for us and
make a contact. I will answer any CW as well as SSB calls. ? We will not be
joining the mele on SO-50!.73'...Ed ?WA7ETH

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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:41:33 -0400
From: Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Oldest?
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi,
I know this topic has been debated for some time, but I believe by just
looking around the Wikipedia and google, AO-7 would have to be the longest
operating satellite around earth. All I have seen people mention is GOES 3
and ATS 3, but never once AO-7.. Even if it was silent for 21 years, it's
still technically the longest operating satellite. Can anyone else confirm
there are no other satellite older than it still operating? It's kinda hard
to find a current answer because it's always changing, and you have to
scavenge the internet. If so it would be awesome to think a low tech, ham
built satellite would beat a commercial, million dollar satellite...
73's KE8AKW


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 22:47:47 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Oldest?
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOqgNo5ugv2xxE8T98-EFNtHoeEHx-ZgdGYaHLrY1+UA-Q@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Nick,

I think there are a couple of satellites older that still transmit,
but AO-7 is, I believe, the oldest satellite that still serves a
useful purpose.

73,

Paul, N8HM



On Thu, Jun 25, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Nicholas Mahr <nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> Hi,
> I know this topic has been debated for some time, but I believe by just
> looking around the Wikipedia and google, AO-7 would have to be the longest
> operating satellite around earth. All I have seen people mention is GOES 3
> and ATS 3, but never once AO-7.. Even if it was silent for 21 years, it's
> still technically the longest operating satellite. Can anyone else confirm
> there are no other satellite older than it still operating? It's kinda hard
> to find a current answer because it's always changing, and you have to
> scavenge the internet. If so it would be awesome to think a low tech, ham
> built satellite would beat a commercial, million dollar satellite...
> 73's KE8AKW
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:03:43 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7
Message-ID: <558D77DF.8090802@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Can someone run me some predictions for like the next couple days?
I'm having a terrible time getting any program to tell me where this
baby is at.
NOTHING I have tried agrees with any other!
I have tried four sources so far and check them all at once and none are
at the same location, some 1/2 the globe away, others like 1/4 orbit
off. makes no sense. what I am using to compare, and none ever come
close to each other I'm in Wisconsin
Heavens Above,
N2YO Page
Orbitron
HRD

UG?

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 6/24/2015 9:08 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> AO-7 Mode A was always a bit weak compared to AO-6 and the RS birds
> from what I have read.
>
> Here's audio of a QSO between me and AC0RA on a nice high pass back in
> December. I was using an AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop to
> receive the downlink.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpeJ-l_E1po
>
> 73.
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Ahhh OK,
>> I was thinking that,
>> So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
>> How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>>> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> AO-7B
>>>>
>>>> "B"?
>>>>
>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>> Sig
>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts on
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really hasn't
>>>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>>>> <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
>>>>>>> transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you
plan on
>>>>>>> AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby <redski@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the
>>>>>>>> Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not
heard
>>>>>>>> and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching
to mode A.
>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 12:06:13 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7
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Put your location in here. This will be accurate.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/predict/index.php

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> Can someone run me some predictions for like the next couple days?
> I'm having a terrible time getting any program to tell me where this baby is
> at.
> NOTHING I have tried agrees with any other!
> I have tried four sources so far and check them all at once and none are at
> the same location, some 1/2 the globe away, others like 1/4 orbit off. makes
> no sense. what I am using to compare, and none ever come close to each other
> I'm in Wisconsin
> Heavens Above,
> N2YO Page
> Orbitron
> HRD
>
> UG?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 6/24/2015 9:08 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>
>> AO-7 Mode A was always a bit weak compared to AO-6 and the RS birds
>> from what I have read.
>>
>> Here's audio of a QSO between me and AC0RA on a nice high pass back in
>> December. I was using an AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop to
>> receive the downlink.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpeJ-l_E1po
>>
>> 73.
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ahhh OK,
>>> I was thinking that,
>>> So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
>>> How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?
>>>
>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>> Sig
>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>> Idle Tyme
>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>> On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> AO-7B
>>>>>
>>>>> "B"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>>> Sig
>>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>>>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really
>>>>>>> hasn't
>>>>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>>>>> <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
>>>>>>>> transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you
>>>>>>>> plan on
>>>>>>>> AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby
>>>>>>>>> <redski@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the
>>>>>>>>> Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not
>>>>>>>>> heard
>>>>>>>>> and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching
>>>>>>>>> to mode A.
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE@xxxxx.xxx
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Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 11:35:58 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7
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Thanks!
That page agrees with HRD.
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 6/26/2015 11:06 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> Put your location in here. This will be accurate.
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/predict/index.php
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2015 at 12:03 PM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Can someone run me some predictions for like the next couple days?
>> I'm having a terrible time getting any program to tell me where this baby
is
>> at.
>> NOTHING I have tried agrees with any other!
>> I have tried four sources so far and check them all at once and none are at
>> the same location, some 1/2 the globe away, others like 1/4 orbit off.
makes
>> no sense. what I am using to compare, and none ever come close to each
other
>> I'm in Wisconsin
>> Heavens Above,
>> N2YO Page
>> Orbitron
>> HRD
>>
>> UG?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 6/24/2015 9:08 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>> AO-7 Mode A was always a bit weak compared to AO-6 and the RS birds
>>> from what I have read.
>>>
>>> Here's audio of a QSO between me and AC0RA on a nice high pass back in
>>> December. I was using an AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop to
>>> receive the downlink.
>>>
>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpeJ-l_E1po
>>>
>>> 73.
>>>
>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>> Ahhh OK,
>>>> I was thinking that,
>>>> So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
>>>> How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?
>>>>
>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>> Sig
>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>> On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>>>>> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> AO-7B
>>>>>>
>>>>>> "B"?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>>>> Sig
>>>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>>>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>>>>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts
>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>>>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really
>>>>>>>> hasn't
>>>>>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>>>>>> <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
>>>>>>>>> transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you
>>>>>>>>> plan on
>>>>>>>>> AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby
>>>>>>>>>> <redski@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the
>>>>>>>>>> Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not
>>>>>>>>>> heard
>>>>>>>>>> and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching
>>>>>>>>>> to mode A.
>>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE@xxxxx.xxx
>>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>>>>>>>> views
>>>>>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
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