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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: AO-7 (Steve Kristoff)
   2. AO73 mode change (Jim Heck)
   3. APRS Satgate Antenna page (dB's) (Robert Bruninga)
   4. Re: [aprssig] APRS Satgate Antenna page (final) (Robert Bruninga)
   5. Re: AO-7 (Joe)
   6. Office Closed (Martha)
   7. AMSAT North Texas outreach opportunity on July 18th.
      (Tom Schuessler)
   8. Re: AMSAT North Texas outreach opportunity on July 18th.
      (Rich/wa4bue)
   9. My first attempt on a linear bird (Indiana Jones)
  10. Re: My first attempt on a linear bird (Andrew Glasbrenner)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 13:25:21 -0400
From: "Steve Kristoff" <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Joe" <nss@xxx.xxx>,	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7
Message-ID: <1923F68012F94985A42D282128DC4E6B@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=response

You can just pull a page of predictions for your location off of the AMSAT
website. Unless you need the elements for running a tracker system.
Steve AI9IN

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joe" <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7


> Can someone run me some predictions for like the next couple days?
> I'm having a terrible time getting any program to tell me where this baby
> is at.
> NOTHING I have tried agrees with any other!
> I have tried four sources so far and check them all at once and none are
> at the same location, some 1/2 the globe away, others like 1/4 orbit off.
> makes no sense. what I am using to compare, and none ever come close to
> each other I'm in Wisconsin
> Heavens Above,
> N2YO Page
> Orbitron
> HRD
>
> UG?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 6/24/2015 9:08 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>> AO-7 Mode A was always a bit weak compared to AO-6 and the RS birds
>> from what I have read.
>>
>> Here's audio of a QSO between me and AC0RA on a nice high pass back in
>> December. I was using an AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop to
>> receive the downlink.
>>
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpeJ-l_E1po
>>
>> 73.
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> Ahhh OK,
>>> I was thinking that,
>>> So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
>>> How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?
>>>
>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>> Sig
>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>> Idle Tyme
>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>> On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>>>> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> AO-7B
>>>>>
>>>>> "B"?
>>>>>
>>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>>> Sig
>>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>>>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts
>>>>>> on
>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really
>>>>>>> hasn't
>>>>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>>>>> <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
>>>>>>>> transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you
>>>>>>>> plan on
>>>>>>>> AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby
>>>>>>>>> <redski@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the
>>>>>>>>> Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard,
>>>>>>>>> not heard
>>>>>>>>> and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching
>>>>>>>>> to mode A.
>>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE@xxxxx.xxx
>>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>>>>>>> views
>>>>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>>>>>> program!
>>>>>>>>> Subscription settings:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>>>>>> views
>>>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>>>>> program!
>>>>>>>> Subscription settings:
>>>>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>>>>> available
>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>>>>>>> views
>>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>>>> program!
>>>>>>> Subscription settings:
>>>>>>> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>>> program!
>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>>> of
>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
Steve Kristoff
skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx

"A few chords strummed on a ukulele, enough to please a few others beside
yourself, does more good in this world than the combined efforts of all the
financiers and politicians that ever lived." - Frank Littig, Littig's New
Harmony Self Instructor Chords for Ukulele, Banjuke or Taro Patch Fiddle,
Chart Music Publishing House, Chicago, Illinois, 1924



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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 21:13:38 +0100
From: Jim Heck <jimlist@xxxx.xxx>
To: Jim Heck <jim@xxxxxx.xx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 mode change
Message-ID: <558DB272.9020106@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Hi All,

Just to advise that FUNcube-1 AO73 has just (at approx 2110 UTC) been
commanded into continuous amateur mode. We expect to change it back to
autonomous mode on Sunday pm.

Have FUN! And have a good Field Day in the USA!

73

Jim G3WGM




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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:15:30 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] APRS Satgate Antenna page (dB's)
Message-ID: <b56b693b06ba3416c83dcb4485296bd4@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

OK, I did a quick look and the gain of the 3/4 wave vertical is a real
winner over the basic 1/4 wave vertical for OMNI Satgates with no moving
parts optimized for high elevation gain above 30 deg.  Low elevations are
simply covered by another SATgate 600 miles away....

We will write it up in detail, but here are the rough figures.

1/4 wave vertical with radials:  -2 at 30 and -6 at 60  ==>  Basically a
dipole pattern

3/4 wave vertical with radials:  +2 at 30 and -1 at 60  ==>  4 to 5 dB
better, 2 dBi max
3/4 wave vertical w 6' gndpln:  +2 at 30 and +3 at 70 ==>  4 to 9 dB better,
5.5 dBi max
3/4 wave vertical w 9' gndpln:  +3 at 30 and +3 at 65 ==>  5 to 9 dB better,
5.3 dBi max
3/4 wave vertical perfect gnd: +3 at 30 and +3 at 68 ==>  5 to 9 dB better,
6.9 dBi max

We are going to do a 3' ground plane too for comparison, but even the 3/4
vertical with just the four 19" radials gives a huge 4 to 5 dB improvement
over a classic ground plane for omni satellite  SATgate work.

Notice too that the Lilenblatt, eggbeaters, and all other "omni"s that try
to keep their gain down on the horizon, are equally as poor as the 1/4 wave
vertical at these higher elevations.  This is OK for strong satellits like
the ISS with 5 to 10 watts, but abisimal when all that gain on the horizon
is completely wasted when you cannot hear the satellite anyway because it is
6 to 10 dB farther away! The result is these "omni's" give up the 4 to 9 dB
at higher elevations where the satellite is much stronger.

Ill eventually put all this on the Omni SATGATE page:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Summary:  The 3/4 wave vertical makes it so you CAN hear LEO satellites 5 to
9 dB better when they are closer and  does this by giving  up on hearing
them when they are so far away you can't hear them anyway!

Bob

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@xxxx.xxxx
Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS Satgate Antenna page

> One question,what constitutes a large ground plane?
> Is it 12"or 12'? Is it a multiple of the vertical whip?

Good question.  Most people think that four 1/4 wave radials make a ground
plane.  But if you model a 1/4 wave vertical over 1/4 wave radials, all you
get is the exact pattern of a DIPOLE.  The radials are just providing a
"groundplane" to complete the electrical part of the antenna and give a good
match.  They do not affect the pattern at all.

I modeled verticals over 6' or larger ground planes and only found that  you
get the added "reflection" gain when the ground plane starts getting that
big or more.  I wish I had time to use EZNEC to show the added gain
(skyward) versus the size of the ground plane.  And how "radials" (above
actual ground) have nothing to do with the "pattern".

SO, the bigger the better.  It should be worth 2 to 3 dB if you could make
it very large...

This is the page in question:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Bob, WB4aPR


On 6/19/2015 3:57 PM, Robert Bruninga via aprssig wrote:
> Subject: APRS Satgate Antenna page
>
> Since the ideal APRS Satellite IGate OMNI antenna is exactly the
> opposite of the typical terrestrial IGaate antenna, I prepared the
> following WEB page:
>
> http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html
>
> It shows how a vertical ? or ? wave VHF omni equals the performance of
> a full OSCAR class array (over half the sky) but does it with no
> moving parts.
> It makes up for the weak-signal horizon part of the sky by there
> simply being more omni-IGates.  The APRS-IS cloud with all of its
> IGates is probably one of the largest spatially distributed satellite
> receiver system in the world (?).
>
> But with people used to the 10W transmitter on the ISS, just a few
> IGates can capture just about every packet from the ISS horizon to
> horizon on a whip.  But with the 14 dB weaker signal from PSAT, we
> need more SatGates to make up for their smaller skyprint.  For the USA
> we need more than a dozen such Omni-SATgates.
>
> To see the significance of the weaker downlink from PSAT, look at the
> successful IGates on the http://pcsat.aprs.org page compared to the IGates
> that hear the ISS packets on http://ariss.net   Both are listening on
> 145.825 and passing along every packet they hear.  But only TRACKING
> IGates or good vertical gain satgates hear PSAT. And since we want
> these running 24/7/365, we do NOT expect people wearing out motors
> when an omni will do fine (if we have enough).
>
> The page also shows how every SATgate with a HIGH and terrestrial type
> antenna actually creates a DEADZONE around it, effectively blocking
> any nearby user heaerd direct from appearing on any of the APRS-IS
> cloud satellite web pages.  Hence, Omni-satgate antennas should be low
> to everything surrounding it w hile still seeing the sky above 30 degrees.
>
> If your TH-D7 HT is just sitting there, not in use 99% of the time,
> then just hook it to a vertical whip and let it be an IGate.  With the
> low antenna it will also probably be safe from all weather lightening too.
> Put
> the UHF side on 435.350 and turn up the speaker.  When PSAT PSK31
> comes into view, you can watch the PSK31 activity as a bonus!
>
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
> aprssig mailing list
> aprssig@xxxx.xxx
> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig


------------------------------

Message: 4
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 16:37:40 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [aprssig] APRS Satgate Antenna page (final)
Message-ID: <3dc28d8eef3f1deef07abdee45281fe9@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Added in the 3' ground plane...

-----Original Message-----
OK, I did a quick look and the gain of the 3/4 wave vertical is a real
winner over the basic 1/4 wave vertical for OMNI Satgates with no moving
parts optimized for high elevation gain above 30 deg.  Low elevations are
simply covered by another SATgate 600 miles away....

We will write it up in detail, but here are the rough figures.

1/4 wave vertical with radials:  -2 at 30 and -6 at 60  ==>  Basically a
dipole pattern

3/4 wave vertical with radials:  +2 at 30 and -1 at 60  ==>  4 to 5 dB
better, 2 dBi max
3/4 wave vertical w 3' gndpln:  +3 at 30 and +1 at 60 ==>  5 to 7 dB better,
3.3 dBi max
3/4 wave vertical w 6' gndpln:  +2 at 30 and +3 at 70 ==>  4 to 9 dB better,
5.5 dBi max
3/4 wave vertical w 9' gndpln: +3 at 30 and +3 at 65 ==>  5 to 9 dB better,
5.3 dBi max
3/4 wave vertical perfect gnd: +3 at 30 and +3 at 68 ==>  5 to 9 dB better,
6.9 dBi max

Even the 3/4 vertical with just the four 19" radials gives a huge 4 to 5 dB
improvement over a classic ground plane for omni satellite  SATgate work.
Also, this antenna does not need to be high.  Just see sky above 30 deg.  In
fact, is better to be low to reduce terrestrial QRM.

Notice too that the Lilenblatt, eggbeaters, and all other "omni"s that try
to keep their gain down on the horizon, are equally as poor as the 1/4 wave
vertical at these higher elevations.  This is OK for strong satellits like
the ISS with 5 to 10 watts, but abisimal when all that gain on the horizon
is completely wasted when you cannot hear the satellite anyway because it is
6 to 10 dB farther away! The result is these "omni's" give up the 4 to 9 dB
at higher elevations where the satellite is much stronger.

Ill eventually put all this on the Omni SATGATE page:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Summary:  The 3/4 wave vertical makes it so you CAN hear LEO satellites 5 to
9 dB better when they are closer and  does this by giving  up on hearing
them when they are so far away you can't hear them anyway!

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: Robert Bruninga [mailto:bruninga@xxxx.xxxx
Subject: RE: [aprssig] APRS Satgate Antenna page

> One question,what constitutes a large ground plane?
> Is it 12"or 12'? Is it a multiple of the vertical whip?

Good question.  Most people think that four 1/4 wave radials make a ground
plane.  But if you model a 1/4 wave vertical over 1/4 wave radials, all you
get is the exact pattern of a DIPOLE.  The radials are just providing a
"groundplane" to complete the electrical part of the antenna and give a good
match.  They do not affect the pattern at all.

I modeled verticals over 6' or larger ground planes and only found that  you
get the added "reflection" gain when the ground plane starts getting that
big or more.  I wish I had time to use EZNEC to show the added gain
(skyward) versus the size of the ground plane.  And how "radials" (above
actual ground) have nothing to do with the "pattern".

SO, the bigger the better.  It should be worth 2 to 3 dB if you could make
it very large...

This is the page in question:
http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html

Bob, WB4aPR


On 6/19/2015 3:57 PM, Robert Bruninga via aprssig wrote:
> Subject: APRS Satgate Antenna page
>
> Since the ideal APRS Satellite IGate OMNI antenna is exactly the
> opposite of the typical terrestrial IGaate antenna, I prepared the
> following WEB page:
>
> http://aprs.org/aprs-satellite-igate-antennas.html
>
> It shows how a vertical ? or ? wave VHF omni equals the performance of
> a full OSCAR class array (over half the sky) but does it with no
> moving parts.
> It makes up for the weak-signal horizon part of the sky by there
> simply being more omni-IGates.  The APRS-IS cloud with all of its
> IGates is probably one of the largest spatially distributed satellite
> receiver system in the world (?).
>
> But with people used to the 10W transmitter on the ISS, just a few
> IGates can capture just about every packet from the ISS horizon to
> horizon on a whip.  But with the 14 dB weaker signal from PSAT, we
> need more SatGates to make up for their smaller skyprint.  For the USA
> we need more than a dozen such Omni-SATgates.
>
> To see the significance of the weaker downlink from PSAT, look at the
> successful IGates on the http://pcsat.aprs.org page compared to the IGates
> that hear the ISS packets on http://ariss.net   Both are listening on
> 145.825 and passing along every packet they hear.  But only TRACKING
> IGates or good vertical gain satgates hear PSAT. And since we want
> these running 24/7/365, we do NOT expect people wearing out motors
> when an omni will do fine (if we have enough).
>
> The page also shows how every SATgate with a HIGH and terrestrial type
> antenna actually creates a DEADZONE around it, effectively blocking
> any nearby user heaerd direct from appearing on any of the APRS-IS
> cloud satellite web pages.  Hence, Omni-satgate antennas should be low
> to everything surrounding it w hile still seeing the sky above 30 degrees.
>
> If your TH-D7 HT is just sitting there, not in use 99% of the time,
> then just hook it to a vertical whip and let it be an IGate.  With the
> low antenna it will also probably be safe from all weather lightening too.
> Put
> the UHF side on 435.350 and turn up the speaker.  When PSAT PSK31
> comes into view, you can watch the PSK31 activity as a bonus!
>
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
> aprssig mailing list
> aprssig@xxxx.xxx
> http://www.tapr.org/mailman/listinfo/aprssig


------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 15:56:53 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7
Message-ID: <558DBC95.1090701@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

is the 29.505 beacon always on or just when mode "A" is active? I tried
listening earlier and heard nothing. just about to have a great pass
will be listening again.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 6/24/2015 9:08 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> AO-7 Mode A was always a bit weak compared to AO-6 and the RS birds
> from what I have read.
>
> Here's audio of a QSO between me and AC0RA on a nice high pass back in
> December. I was using an AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop to
> receive the downlink.
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JpeJ-l_E1po
>
> 73.
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Ahhh OK,
>> I was thinking that,
>> So what is this old bird like when in Mode A,
>> How are signal levels as compared to when she was new in the 70's?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 6/24/2015 7:58 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
>>> Mode B, vs. Mode A
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Jun 24, 2015, at 8:41 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> AO-7B
>>>>
>>>> "B"?
>>>>
>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>> Sig
>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>>> On 6/23/2015 10:13 PM, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
>>>>> It seemed to be working OK this afternoon, as I made several contacts on
>>>>> it.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73, Jim  KQ6EA
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> On 06/24/2015 02:59 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>>>>>> It also seems like the past couple of days is when AO-7B really hasn't
>>>>>> been heard much. Perhaps the geomagnetic storms have been a factor
>>>>>> too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 23, 2015 at 6:06 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>>>>>> <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>>> AO-7 is switching to Mode A or off when stations are overtaxing the
>>>>>>> transponder with excessive uplink power, especially on CW. If you
plan on
>>>>>>> AO-7 for field day, plan on Mode A and have a backup.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Jun 23, 2015, at 4:50 PM, W. M. Willoughby <redski@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is anyone working AO-7B successfully? I am not hearing it and the
>>>>>>>> Live OSCAR Satellite Status Page is showing a variety of heard, not
heard
>>>>>>>> and conflicting reports. It also appears to be randomly switching
to mode A.
>>>>>>>> Does anyone have any info?
>>>>>>>> Thanks,RedKC4LE@xxxxx.xxx
>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>>>> Opinions expressed
>>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>>>>>> of AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>>>>> program!
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 17:43:06 -0400
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Board of Directors <bod@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
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The AMSAT Office will be closed the week of June 29th.  We will reopen on
July 6th. For those who celebrate have a safe July 4th.

--
73- Martha(AMSAT's only employee)


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 26 Jun 2015 22:53:10 -0500
From: "Tom Schuessler" <tjschuessler@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT North Texas outreach opportunity on July
18th.
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Greetings North Texas friends of AMSAT and ARISS.

A great opportunity to showcase Amateur Radio and especially Amateur Radio
in space to the general public will be held on Saturday, July 18th at the
Frontiers of Flight Museum in Dallas, TX.  In commutation of the anniversary
of the Apollo 11 moon landing, the museum has celebrated "Moon Day" for the
last number of years as a STEM outreach specializing in astronomy, space
science and space flight past and future.

This year the Moon Day organizers decided to theme the day around the
International Space Station.  They applied for and were granted an ARISS
scheduled contact to become part of the event.  Keith Pugh, W5IU is serving
as ARISS mentor for the event and is working diligently on setting up all
the details of this "Telebridge" contact.  The museum is sponsoring an "Ask
a question of an astronaut" contest with details at
http://www.flightmuseum.com/iss-expedition-crew-43-question/ .  General
details can be found at http://www.flightmuseum.com/moon-day-2015/ .  If you
know young people interested in astronomy and space science/exploration,
have them check out the links and see if they submit a question to be used
during the ARISS contact.  Deadline for entry is June 30th.

In years past, several of us have participated in Moon Day activities by
manning an AMSAT table showing off Amateur Radio in space and even doing
some on-air contacts for and with interested participants.

Keith will be very busy all morning setting up and preparing for the ARISS
contact and has several individuals working with him on that.  I have
volunteered to help staff an AMSAT display table but need additional
volunteers to assist with the table and also to be available to make Amateur
Satellite contacts and demonstrations as the sats allow.  Please contact
Keith  w5iu@xxxxxx.xxx or myself Tom Schuessler, n5hyp@xxxx.xxx to volunteer
to help at least part of the day or the whole 10A-5P duration and tell us
what you can "Bring to the table" as it were.

Help us to support the Museum's ARISS contact and also to put a bug in the
ears of many event goers about the fun and challenge of Amateur Radio
Satellites.

73
Tom Schuessler, N5HYP




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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 05:59:05 -0400
From: "Rich/wa4bue" <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Tom Schuessler" <tjschuessler@xxxxxxx.xxx>,	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT North Texas outreach opportunity on July
18th.
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Great

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Schuessler" <tjschuessler@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2015 11:53 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT North Texas outreach opportunity on July 18th.


> Greetings North Texas friends of AMSAT and ARISS.
>
> A great opportunity to showcase Amateur Radio and especially Amateur Radio
> in space to the general public will be held on Saturday, July 18th at the
> Frontiers of Flight Museum in Dallas, TX.  In commutation of the
> anniversary
> of the Apollo 11 moon landing, the museum has celebrated "Moon Day" for
> the
> last number of years as a STEM outreach specializing in astronomy, space
> science and space flight past and future.
>
> This year the Moon Day organizers decided to theme the day around the
> International Space Station.  They applied for and were granted an ARISS
> scheduled contact to become part of the event.  Keith Pugh, W5IU is
> serving
> as ARISS mentor for the event and is working diligently on setting up all
> the details of this "Telebridge" contact.  The museum is sponsoring an
> "Ask
> a question of an astronaut" contest with details at
> http://www.flightmuseum.com/iss-expedition-crew-43-question/ .  General
> details can be found at http://www.flightmuseum.com/moon-day-2015/ .  If
> you
> know young people interested in astronomy and space science/exploration,
> have them check out the links and see if they submit a question to be used
> during the ARISS contact.  Deadline for entry is June 30th.
>
> In years past, several of us have participated in Moon Day activities by
> manning an AMSAT table showing off Amateur Radio in space and even doing
> some on-air contacts for and with interested participants.
>
> Keith will be very busy all morning setting up and preparing for the ARISS
> contact and has several individuals working with him on that.  I have
> volunteered to help staff an AMSAT display table but need additional
> volunteers to assist with the table and also to be available to make
> Amateur
> Satellite contacts and demonstrations as the sats allow.  Please contact
> Keith  w5iu@xxxxxx.xxx or myself Tom Schuessler, n5hyp@xxxx.xxx to
> volunteer
> to help at least part of the day or the whole 10A-5P duration and tell us
> what you can "Bring to the table" as it were.
>
> Help us to support the Museum's ARISS contact and also to put a bug in the
> ears of many event goers about the fun and challenge of Amateur Radio
> Satellites.
>
> 73
> Tom Schuessler, N5HYP
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 06:48:26 -0500
From: Indiana Jones <77indianajones@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] My first attempt on a linear bird
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Thanks for asking this question Michael, I too have spent the last couple
weeks trying to use HRD with my IC9100 and was overcome with frustration
that sometimes I would look at the radio and notice that one thing or
another was wrong.. (both of them were on USB or whatever).  I then began
configuring the radio correctly then turning on tracking in HRD so all it
had to do was adjust freq.. I would only hear others however if i turned
the dial and searched for them.. Yesterday I installed SATPC32 and was
surprised how well it worked.

So - here is where I'm stuck..
1) I'm using the ?turnstiled? Moxon rectangles for 2 m and 70 cm with
pre-amps.  But in this scenario how much power do I need.  I'm guessing 10
watts?  Anything lower and my IC9100 doesn't appear to have any real
output.

2) When I do talk (with appropriate mic gain) I think I hear myself but
it's just way over-modulated sounding.  Using Heil Pro-set with icom
adapter..  Maybe today (field day) with the one FO29 pass I will try with
the ICOM microphone..  This will be my first linear bird as well.  For
Field Day if anyone hears me, I will greatly appreciate a reply - and I
will be operating as K5EOK 3A.

3) How do I add the other 'channels' to SATPC32 for FO-29's
uplink/downlink.. Looks like it comes with only 435.850 programmed so I
need to add .860, .870, .880, .890 and .900 as well as .800 to .840..  but
why does it show in CAT tuning as 435850.45 with a downlink of 145952.15..
I would think it would be 850.0 and 950.0??

Thanks, and I apologize for my ignorance and desperation.  It's sad that
I'm doing a field day demo of how fun satellites are but I can't make a
satellite contact to save myself.

--
73 N5ZY Marcus
N5ZY@xxxx.xxx


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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 27 Jun 2015 08:31:23 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Indiana Jones'" <77indianajones@xxxxx.xxx>,	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] My first attempt on a linear bird
Message-ID: <031a01d0b0d5$2e6889f0$8b399dd0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="UTF-8"



>1) I'm using the ?turnstiled? Moxon rectangles for 2 m and 70 cm with
pre-amps.  But in this scenario how much power do I need.  I'm guessing 10
watts?  Anything lower and my IC9100 doesn't appear to >have any real output.

10 watts is probably about right.

>2) When I do talk (with appropriate mic gain) I think I hear myself but
it's just way over-modulated sounding.  Using Heil Pro-set with icom
adapter..  Maybe today (field day) with the one FO29 pass I >will try with
the ICOM microphone..  This will be my first linear bird as well.  For Field
Day if anyone hears me, I will greatly appreciate a reply - and I will be
operating as K5EOK 3A.

If operating on FO-29, and the audio isn't clear, you are likely not hearing
your return from the satellite, but rather overload and third harmonic from
your preamp. This is a common problem on Mode J but easily solved. See
http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=2136

>3) How do I add the other 'channels' to SATPC32 for FO-29's
uplink/downlink.. Looks like it comes with only 435.850 programmed so I need
to add .860, .870, .880, .890 and .900 as well as .800 to .840..  >but why
does it show in CAT tuning as 435850.45 with a downlink of 145952.15..
>I would think it would be 850.0 and 950.0??

Operation is not channelized on FO-29. Turn the dial on the 9100 and the
program should follow you across the passband tuning for Doppler as you go.
You still need to calibrate the frequency offset under "CAT" to take in
account any variation in your individual radio...

73, Drew KO4MA



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