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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Dual IC706 MKII-G operation (Tom Warren)
   2. UKube-1/FC2 Data warehouse (David Johnson)
   3. AMSAT-NA Election Reminder (Alan)
   4. AO-7 CW Telemetry (John Papay)
   5. Round-the-world M0XER-4 (Robert Bruninga)
   6. Re: Round-the-world M0XER-4 (M5AKA)
   7. Re: Round-the-world M0XER-4 (Robert Bruninga)
   8. Wouxun KG-UV8D (Craig Gagner)
   9. Re: Wouxun KG-UV8D (Paul Stoetzer)
  10. Re: Round-the-world M0XER-4 (M5AKA)
  11. Re: AO-7 CW Telemetry (EMike McCardel)
  12. Re: Wouxun KG-UV8D (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
  13. Re: Dual IC706 MKII-G operation (Stephen  E. Belter)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 10:10:17 -0400
From: Tom Warren <mtnest@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Dual IC706 MKII-G operation
Message-ID: <7C7EBA71-AF6C-4FD8-AF13-BE3AA8AB217C@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252



  Eric,

Thanks for you input. I do have an additional question?... about the need of
CT-17 level converter as noted in
 the owners manual, but I think Mike will answer it when he replies.   This,
to me, is the last piece of the puzzle
 (and my confusion). Is the ?Y' adaptor cable to be used ?in conjunction?
with the CI-V level converter or?..?in place
 of ' the CI-V level converter?

Again, I?m really impressed with the helpful responses I?ve received from
this group, thank you.
I feel like I?m almost there ;0)

73
Tom
ps; from the looks of the archives, you have been involved in helping others
for a long time !!



????????????

On Jul 31, 2014, at 1:50 AM, Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
wrote:

>
> Tom,
> as Paul wrote already change the Icom address of one of the IC-706MKIIGs
and enter the two addresses in the "Radio 1" section of menu "Radio Setup".
>
> You can connect both radios to a single Icom CAT cable  by using an
Y-adapter on the radio side of the CAT cable. Make sure that the CAT cable
works on Windows 7 and 8, see the reply of Mike, W4UOO.

>
> When the program starts the radio with the first of the two addresses will
run as the RX.
> In menu "Radio Setup" check the option "Autom. RX/TX Change". The program
will then automatically change the roles of both radios as RX and TX. when
you switch between u/v and v/u sats  and you don't need to switch the
2m/70cm antennas between the radios.
>
> Leave option "Satellite mode" and all other options in the menu un-checked.
>
> 73s, Erich, DK1TB
>
>
> Am 30.07.2014 14:09, schrieb Tom Warren:
>>  Hello to the group??..
>>
>>  Does anyone have the specifics on how to setup two IC706 MKII-G?s for
satellite ssb/cw operation (duplex).
>>
>> I?ve done a bit of browsing and read the manual but remain confused on
the hardware needed when using
>> my Compaq laptop (no serial port), only USB?s.
>>
>>
>> Any advise would be appreciated.
>>
>> 73
>> Tom
>> W4TMW
>>
>>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:31:49 +0100
From: David Johnson <dave@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] UKube-1/FC2 Data warehouse
Message-ID: <53DA5355.6010304@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi,

We had a problem with decoding data for FC2 in the data warehouse this
morning (31st Nov).

This has been fixed and if you have any bin files which you recorded
between 0:00 and 14:00 utc, please replay
them into the warehouse.

Many thanks

Dave, G4DPZ


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 11:10:57 -0500
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,	"SAREX-BB" <SAREX@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-NA Election Reminder
Message-ID: <000001cfacda$0416e110$0c44a330$@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

All AMSAT-NA Members,

The annual election packet was mailed prior to 15 July, and should have been
received by now.  Many
members have already returned their ballots.  If you have not, please take a
few minutes to review the
position statements of the various candidates, make your selections, and
then mail them. This is
especially important if you are in a non-North American QTH.  In that case,
it is strongly recommended
that you use air mail or other expedited means. This is your opportunity to
select the AMSAT-NA
leadership and help chose the future direction of our organization.  Due to
unusual circumstances, we
are electing 4 full Board members, in addition to the usual 2 Alternates, so
you may vote for up to 4
candidates.

73s,

Alan Biddle
WA4SCA
AMSAT Corporate Secretary



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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:26:34 -0400
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 CW Telemetry
Message-ID: <593712.68900.bm@xxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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It is very rare to hear clear CW from the AO-7B
telemetry beacon around 145.972.  Most of the time
there is no beacon at all.  Sometimes there is
jibberish.  Usually the signal is very weak.

With AO-7 going through eclipse on every orbit, the
satellite can come out of eclipse in different modes/
options.  Recently there have been times where the
beacon has transmitted clear CW over North America,
something I have not heard over the years.

According to the DK3WN website, there was some cw
telemetry back in 2002 when the satellite was discovered
to be working again.  And there was some discussion about
what is valid data based on the last 3 digits sent in the
24 group block of data.  If the value is 649, 650, or 651,
the data is likely valid.

I first heard the image of the cw signal around 958.  It was
so loud I thought it was a valid user at first.  But since
the cw was all numbers I tuned up to the beacon frequency and
there the signal was louder than anything I have ever heard
on AO-7.  It took a while for me to get the recorder running
but I managed to capture some data.  After playing it back I
found that there was only one block of data where the last
group was valid, a 649.  Other later transmissions were loud
but the data was much different and the last group was not
correct.

I couldn't locate a telemetry calculator at first so I decided to
build one on Excel using the formulae provided by DK3WN.  The
data follows:

AO-7B Telemetry 24July2014   2318UTC
POS  Parameter                Range     Raw  Real

1A Total Solar Array Current  0-3000ma  171 2094.5ma
1B +X Solar Panel Current     0-2000ma  193  110ma
1C -X Solar Panel Current     0-2000ma  157  830ma
1D +Y Solar Panel Current     0-2000ma  108  1810ma
2A -Y Solar Panel Current     0-2000ma  286  250ma
2B RF Power Out 70/2          0-8watts  204 7.3728W
2C 24 Hour Clock Time         0-1440min 201 15.16min
2D Batt Ch/Discharge Current-2000/+2000 207  -1720ma
3A Batt Voltage               6.5-16.4  361  12.7V
3B Half Batt Voltage          0-10v     397   9.7V
3C Batt Charge Reg #1         0-15v     340   6V
3D Batt Temperature         -30 to +50C 300   95.8C
4A Baseplate Temperature    -30 to +50C 446   27.72C
4B PA Temperature 2/10      -30 to +50C 401   94.32C
4C +X Face Temperature      -30 to +50C 430   51.4C
4D +Z Face Temperature      -30 to +50C 498  -49.24C
5A PA Temp 70/2             -30 to +50C 545   29.2C
5B PA Emitter Current 2/10    0-1167ma  502   92.84MA
5C Module Temp 70/2         -30 to +50C 543   32.16C
5D Inst. SW Regulator         0-93ma    527   33.14MA
6A RF Power Out 2/10         0-10,000mw 606   23.076MW
6B RF Power Out 435           0-1000mw  643   219.9MW
6C RF Power Out 2304          0-100mw   679   255.881MW
6D Midrange Telemetry Cal     0-.5v     649   0.49

There are some values which are obviously not correct.
Some sensors might not be working properly since some
values are out of range.  However, the solar panel numbers
might be somewhat correct.  I wouldn't doubt it if the
transmitter was putting out 7 watts at the time.

Perhaps there are those who are familiar with the AO-7
telemetry that can make some sense out of the data.
Unfortunately we don't have multiple blocks of good data
to compare readings.  Maybe some have recorded recent CW
data and can find some good blocks that can be shared here.

The data was copied on my Arizona remote and Skype was being
used to listen.  But I am fairly confident that the cw copied
is correct.

73,
John K8YSE








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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:20:45 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: aprssig@xxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Round-the-world M0XER-4
Message-ID: <57a09eadcdd739ce0be929f7189e23be@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

That is why I want so much to continue the 145.825 digipeater on as many
satellites as we can*.



But we can?t seem to inspire any of the other HUNDREDS of satellite
building groups to consider it.

I think there were over 100 cubesats launched last year.  None with 145.825
APRS?



*(and convince the leave-it-on-24/7/365-not-moving user satellite stations
to stop beaconing unattended!)



Bob, WB4APR



*From:* aprsisce@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
*Subject:* RE: [aprsisce] North America M0XER-4



Too bad we can't get the balloon to switch to the ISS frequency and use the
digi off of it when over the oceans and arctic!



-------- Original message --------
On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 12:23 PM, 'Steve' wrote:

> Seems the balloon enjoyed itself so much it?s going round again.
> Congratulations are in order to Leo M0XER
> AFAIK this has never been done before.
> Be interesting to see if it makes it twice

We're a tough crowd to please...

First circumnavigation of the globe by an amateur radio carrying
balloon, and as it passes the milestone...

"So, can you get another lap out of it?"

What about poor old M0XER-3? It's still out there! Sure it got waylaid
in Nunavut for a while, and let M0XER-4 slip on by... It needs some
encouragement too!

[ see present track: http://aprs.fi/M0XER* (and click for 7 day tail)]

If the winds are playing nice, and the fates allow, it should be
coming into range fairly soon.

James, VE6SRV


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:06:29 +0100
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Round-the-world M0XER-4
Message-ID:
<1406837189.13112.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

http://amsat-uk.org/2014/07/31/434-mhz-balloon-b-64-completes-epic-journey/

73 Trevor M5AKA

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:26:17 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Round-the-world M0XER-4
Message-ID: <bb8032500a40a88d02927a89aab3b46b@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Trevor,

The M0XER-4 (I thought) did frequency shifting (APRS 144 MHz national
channels over Europe and the US), and so I thought it had more complexity.
The image shown on the link below only has 434 MHz antennas, no obvious
GPS and no VHF antennas.  Can you clarify and help us get an idea of what
this M0XER4 payload actually looked like?  Thanks, Bob, WB4aPR

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of M5AKA
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:06 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Round-the-world M0XER-4

http://amsat-uk.org/2014/07/31/434-mhz-balloon-b-64-completes-epic-journey
/

73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:29:04 -0400
From: "Craig Gagner" <crgagner@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT Mailing List'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Wouxun KG-UV8D
Message-ID: <001b01cfacfe$1254c610$36fe5230$@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Has anyone tried one of these for portable use ? It has cross band repeater
and also functions in Full Duplex.



I just ordered one but need to get another hand held antenna, when I do I'll
post my findings.



73, Craig W1MSG



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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 16:32:53 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Craig Gagner <crgagner@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT Mailing List <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Wouxun KG-UV8D
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOq=Lyd-SizGSqp89ma7OupKXhPtd0qRymtB6DCZ=-u9sg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Craig,

Patrick, WD9EWK, has tested one of these on SO-50. Unfortunately
desense makes it unsuitable for use on Mode J FM satellites. It may be
usable for the upcoming fleet of Mode B FM satellites, including EO-80
and the Fox-1 series.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Jul 31, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Craig Gagner <crgagner@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Has anyone tried one of these for portable use ? It has cross band repeater
> and also functions in Full Duplex.
>
>
>
> I just ordered one but need to get another hand held antenna, when I do I'll
> post my findings.
>
>
>
> 73, Craig W1MSG
>
> _______________________________________________
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 21:51:05 +0100
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Round-the-world M0XER-4
Message-ID:
<1406839865.28409.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1

Hi Bob,

Yes, that's a library image of one of Leo's solar powered payloads, I don't
have a pic of B-64.

If you send Leo an email I'm sure he'd fill you in on the details - I'm just
amazed he's managed to get everything into such a small and light package,
as you might expect the rechargeable cell is the heaviest part.

73 Trevor M5AKA



On Thursday, 31 July 2014, 21:26, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:



Trevor,

The M0XER-4 (I thought) did frequency shifting (APRS 144 MHz national
channels over Europe and the US), and so I thought it had more complexity.
The image shown on the link below only has 434 MHz antennas, no obvious
GPS and no VHF antennas.? Can you clarify and help us get an idea of what
this M0XER4 payload actually looked like?? Thanks, Bob, WB4aPR


-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of M5AKA
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 4:06 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Round-the-world M0XER-4

http://amsat-uk.org/2014/07/31/434-mhz-balloon-b-64-completes-epic-journey
/

73 Trevor M5AKA
_______________________________________________
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 17:03:20 -0400
From: EMike McCardel <mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>
To: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 CW Telemetry
Message-ID: <AD762F4B-E29E-4051-BBFC-C7392223AE58@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

John,

The December 1974 issue of the AMSAT Newsletter covered AO-7 telemetry
fairly in depth. Included was a description on reading the telemetry
followed by a telemetry conversion table.
You can find the issue in Phil Karn's archive
http://www.ka9q.net/AMSAT-Newsletter-1974.pdf
The article begins at about page 100 of the PDF

EMike

EMike McCardel, KC8YLD
VP for Educational Relations AMSAT-NA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 31, 2014, at 2:26 PM, John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> It is very rare to hear clear CW from the AO-7B
> telemetry beacon around 145.972.  Most of the time
> there is no beacon at all.  Sometimes there is
> jibberish.  Usually the signal is very weak.
>
> With AO-7 going through eclipse on every orbit, the
> satellite can come out of eclipse in different modes/
> options.  Recently there have been times where the
> beacon has transmitted clear CW over North America,
> something I have not heard over the years.
>
> According to the DK3WN website, there was some cw
> telemetry back in 2002 when the satellite was discovered
> to be working again.  And there was some discussion about
> what is valid data based on the last 3 digits sent in the
> 24 group block of data.  If the value is 649, 650, or 651,
> the data is likely valid.
>
> I first heard the image of the cw signal around 958.  It was
> so loud I thought it was a valid user at first.  But since
> the cw was all numbers I tuned up to the beacon frequency and
> there the signal was louder than anything I have ever heard
> on AO-7.  It took a while for me to get the recorder running
> but I managed to capture some data.  After playing it back I
> found that there was only one block of data where the last
> group was valid, a 649.  Other later transmissions were loud
> but the data was much different and the last group was not
> correct.
>
> I couldn't locate a telemetry calculator at first so I decided to
> build one on Excel using the formulae provided by DK3WN.  The
> data follows:
>
> AO-7B Telemetry 24July2014   2318UTC
> POS  Parameter                Range     Raw  Real
>
> 1A Total Solar Array Current  0-3000ma  171 2094.5ma
> 1B +X Solar Panel Current     0-2000ma  193  110ma
> 1C -X Solar Panel Current     0-2000ma  157  830ma
> 1D +Y Solar Panel Current     0-2000ma  108  1810ma
> 2A -Y Solar Panel Current     0-2000ma  286  250ma
> 2B RF Power Out 70/2          0-8watts  204 7.3728W
> 2C 24 Hour Clock Time         0-1440min 201 15.16min
> 2D Batt Ch/Discharge Current-2000/+2000 207  -1720ma
> 3A Batt Voltage               6.5-16.4  361  12.7V
> 3B Half Batt Voltage          0-10v     397   9.7V
> 3C Batt Charge Reg #1         0-15v     340   6V
> 3D Batt Temperature         -30 to +50C 300   95.8C
> 4A Baseplate Temperature    -30 to +50C 446   27.72C
> 4B PA Temperature 2/10      -30 to +50C 401   94.32C
> 4C +X Face Temperature      -30 to +50C 430   51.4C
> 4D +Z Face Temperature      -30 to +50C 498  -49.24C
> 5A PA Temp 70/2             -30 to +50C 545   29.2C
> 5B PA Emitter Current 2/10    0-1167ma  502   92.84MA
> 5C Module Temp 70/2         -30 to +50C 543   32.16C
> 5D Inst. SW Regulator         0-93ma    527   33.14MA
> 6A RF Power Out 2/10         0-10,000mw 606   23.076MW
> 6B RF Power Out 435           0-1000mw  643   219.9MW
> 6C RF Power Out 2304          0-100mw   679   255.881MW
> 6D Midrange Telemetry Cal     0-.5v     649   0.49
>
> There are some values which are obviously not correct.
> Some sensors might not be working properly since some
> values are out of range.  However, the solar panel numbers
> might be somewhat correct.  I wouldn't doubt it if the
> transmitter was putting out 7 watts at the time.
>
> Perhaps there are those who are familiar with the AO-7
> telemetry that can make some sense out of the data.
> Unfortunately we don't have multiple blocks of good data
> to compare readings.  Maybe some have recorded recent CW
> data and can find some good blocks that can be shared here.
>
> The data was copied on my Arizona remote and Skype was being
> used to listen.  But I am fairly confident that the cw copied
> is correct.
>
> 73,
> John K8YSE
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 14:04:07 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Wouxun KG-UV8D
Message-ID:
<CAN6TEUe4HhuUkDrb5uSCZ7BcVjqUqEuPUYUyGM=PRONkTJdzJA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1

Hi Craig!

As N8HM mentioned, I have tried the KG-UV8D on SO-50. It will not work
for cross-band, full-duplex operation on this satellite.  Using a group
of memory channels, its receiver is OK for hearing the downlink when
working SO-50 half-duplex, or as a receiver when transmitting with a
second HT (even one of the cheaper Baofeng HTs!). There has been a long
discussion thread about this radio on QRZ.com's satellite forum at:

http://forums.qrz.com/showthread.php?437813-Wouxun-KG-UV8D-for-SO-50-Sure-but-
not-full-duplex-by-itself

Like with many Kenwood and Yaesu HTs, you can program a group of memory
channels to work SO-50 half-duplex. Make sure to set up the memories
where the receive/output frequency steps down in 2.5 kHz steps. Otherwise,
there are times, around the point you would change receive frequencies,
where you won't be able to hear the satellite on either frequency when
tuning in 5 kHz steps (i.e., from 436.800 to 436.795 MHz).  All versions
of this radio with firmware at V1.02 or greater tune in 2.5 kHz steps,
so this means you'll end up with twice as many memories for working
SO-50 than with other radios incapable of tuning in steps smaller than
5 kHz.  (To view the firmware version in a KG-UV8D, press and hold the
3 key while turning on the radio)

Beyond SO-50, the KG-UV8D will work OK for V/U cross-band full-duplex
operation, if the 70cm signal you're trying to hear is a lot stronger
than the SO-50 downlink. The receiver is certainly better than the
Alinco DJ-G7T 2m/70cm/23cm HT - another one that was promoted for
cross-band, full-duplex operation a few years ago.  I find myself
grabbing the KG-UV8D more often when I want to have an HT with me,
unless I'm looking to do APRS using a TH-D72A instead.

While at the ARRL Centennial Convention in Hartford a couple of weeks
ago, I did a test with my KG-UV8D and the Fox-1 prototype on display
at the AMSAT booth. The Fox-1 series of satellites (remember 3 have
launches - go AMSAT!) are U/V satellites, the reverse of SO-50.  You
will transmit on 70cm, and receive on 2m.  In this configuration,
and making allowances in an attempt to better simulate working a
Fox-1 satellite in orbit, I was able to work the Fox-1 protoype
full-duplex walking around the main hall and just outside the hall.
I varied my transmit power between high and low, and moved my antenna
around, trying to change how the received signals sounded as I
transmitted.  The Fox-1 prototype used a dummy load as an antenna.
I was able to hear myself without any noticeable desense at either
transmit power level, even when the Fox-1 prototype's downlink
started to sound as weak as SO-50 typically does.  I received good
signal reports from Burns W2BFJ, a member of the Fox software team
at the AMSAT booth who listened to some of my tests.  This gives me
hope that the KG-UV8D - and other radios like the newer versions of
the IC-W32A - might work for cross-band, full-duplex operation with
U/V satellites like the upcoming Fox-1 series, when they don't do
the same for V/U satellites like SO-50.

If you want to discuss this further, and the posts on that QRZ
forum thread didn't answer any other questions you might have about
the radio, please feel free to contact me directly.

Good luck, and 73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/




Has anyone tried one of these for portable use ? It has cross band repeater
> and also functions in Full Duplex.
>
>


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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2014 17:19:28 -0400
From: "Stephen  E. Belter" <seb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: Tom Warren <mtnest@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Dual IC706 MKII-G operation
Message-ID: <6592193A-8880-49C7-8D8E-305A8671B4EE@xxxxxx.xxx>
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Tom,

You need one CT-17 or equivalent level converter.  I use the West Mountain
Radio RIGtalk which is a USB serial port to CI-V interface.  Many people
build their own (easy for an RS-232 serial port) or buy inexpensive
converters from ebay.

The CI-V interface is an "open-collector" party-line.  You can parallel 2-4
Icom radios using Y-adapters, then connect it to the CI-V output of the
CT-17, RIGtalk, or other similar interface.

Does that answer your question?

73, Steve N9IP
--
Steve Belter, seb@xxxxxx.xxx



On Jul 31, 2014, at 10:10 AM, Tom Warren <mtnest@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

>
>
>  Eric,
>
> 	Thanks for you input. I do have an additional question?... about the need
of CT-17 level converter as noted in
> the owners manual, but I think Mike will answer it when he replies.  
This, to me, is the last piece of the puzzle
> (and my confusion). Is the ?Y' adaptor cable to be used ?in conjunction?
with the CI-V level converter or?..?in place
> of ' the CI-V level converter?
>
> Again, I?m really impressed with the helpful responses I?ve received from
this group, thank you.
> I feel like I?m almost there ;0)
>
> 73
> Tom
> ps; from the looks of the archives, you have been involved in helping
others for a long time !!
>
>
> 	
> ????????????
>
> On Jul 31, 2014, at 1:50 AM, Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
wrote:
>
>>
>> Tom,
>> as Paul wrote already change the Icom address of one of the IC-706MKIIGs
and enter the two addresses in the "Radio 1" section of menu "Radio Setup".
>>
>> You can connect both radios to a single Icom CAT cable  by using an
Y-adapter on the radio side of the CAT cable. Make sure that the CAT cable
works on Windows 7 and 8, see the reply of Mike, W4UOO.
> 	
>>
>> When the program starts the radio with the first of the two addresses
will run as the RX.
>> In menu "Radio Setup" check the option "Autom. RX/TX Change". The program
will then automatically change the roles of both radios as RX and TX. when
you switch between u/v and v/u sats  and you don't need to switch the
2m/70cm antennas between the radios.
>>
>> Leave option "Satellite mode" and all other options in the menu un-checked.
>>
>> 73s, Erich, DK1TB
>>
>>
>> Am 30.07.2014 14:09, schrieb Tom Warren:
>>> Hello to the group??..
>>>
>>> Does anyone have the specifics on how to setup two IC706 MKII-G?s for
satellite ssb/cw operation (duplex).
>>>
>>> I?ve done a bit of browsing and read the manual but remain confused on
the hardware needed when using
>>> my Compaq laptop (no serial port), only USB?s.
>>>
>>>
>>> Any advise would be appreciated.
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Tom
>>> W4TMW
>>>
>>>
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