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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Portable rotator (mvivona@xxxxx.xxxx
   2. Re: Question about AMSAT BB (Joe Fitzgerald)
   3. Re: SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z (gkcarr@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
   4. Re: SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z (Dave Swanson)
   5. It wont be a satellite road trip, but..... (Tom Schuessler)
   6. ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference), Chicago,
      October 9 - 11, 2015 (Mark Thompson)
   7. Re: Question about AMSAT BB (Rick Walter)
   8. Re: Notification of passes (John Brier)
   9. Re: PSAT PSK31 experimental software (Robert Bruninga)
  10. report rx NO-84 (LW8EXS)
  11. Re: Question about AMSAT BB (njwater .)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 02:32:53 +0000 (UTC)
From: "mvivona@xxxxx.xxxx <mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Bill Attwood <whattwood@xxxxx.xxx>, 	"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Portable rotator
Message-ID:
<229136038.2460.1440469973110.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Bill,
Nice job on the rotor.I also am building a similar lightweight?PTZ rotor.
It's very similar to yours. See my?video of?where?I'm at with it.?This is
part-1.?I should have?version-2?done soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00SW1ExS2es&feature=player_embedded

Michael/KC4ZVA
      From: Bill Attwood <whattwood@xxxxx.xxx>
 To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
 Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 1:27 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Portable rotator

Hi all,

I posted a little too soon about my rotator "blog" on Friday - I've
since cleaned up the post and added some high resolution pics (plus a
short video). If you'd like to take another boo here's the link again:
https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=37&t=118737

It would be great to get some comments and thoughts (critical ones
welcome!) in the Pi forum.

73,
Bill VE6WK


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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:39:25 -0400
From: Joe Fitzgerald <jfitzgerald@xxxx.xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB
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On 8/24/2015 7:52 PM, Rick Walter wrote:
>  What is the average time between someone sending a
> post and when it actually appears on the BB?


When a message "appears on the BB" has a couple of different answers.
Your note "appeared"  via the web interface a few seconds before 2:47 PM
EDT today

http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-August/054624.html

Google's mail server accepted the remailed message from amsat-bb to
wb3csy@xxxxx.xxx at 2:47:12 EDT.   Once Gmail accepted the message, that
is the last I can see of it from the logs on our mail server. I don't
know when it "appeared" in your in your inbox.  Google does strange and
mysterious things* to protect its users from spam, perhaps they are
using some new method that results in delivery delays that can't be
observed from the sending mail server.

Rick,  thanks for this report.   I'll see if there is anything I can do
to improve delivery from our end.


-Joe KM1P
AMSAT Electronic Services

*Sometimes our mail server is "greylisted" by Google.  Greylisting is a
spam control method where mail is temporarily rejected on the theory
that spammers usually don't attempt periodic retries to a temporary
delivery failure like legitimate mail senders do.   It is not clear why
we are put on Google's greylist (or how we get off of it), but that does
not appear to be what happened here since they accepted the remailed
message right away.





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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:50:23 -0500 (CDT)
From: gkcarr@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
To: "James Lea - WX4TV" <james@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Scott Richardson <scott.xot@xxxxx.xxx>,	"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z
Message-ID: <1440471023.954128062@xxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"


Early in my USA hamsat days, I had an Icom W32A, Arrow and paper/pencil. I
operated the radios, my xyl the logging and 16 yr old daughter the rotating!
A family affair! The two ladies did not miss the mosquitoes during evening
passes when I upgraded to the in shack radios and Yaesu 5400 rotor!
73
George
WA5KBH


-----Original Message-----
From: "James Lea - WX4TV" <james@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 20:23
To: "Scott Richardson" <scott.xot@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z



She used to use a tripod and will probably use it again in the future. This
worked very well, but she wanted to try another way. I believe that kids
learn by making mistakes. Trying to hand hold the antenna and radios is a
mistake! She will learn.

The big issue with writing call signs for her is that she is still learning
to write. Remember, she is a very young kid. As her writing improves, she
will be able to do the paper method. All in time.

Thanks and 73,

James

> On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Scott Richardson <scott.xot@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios and an
antenna.
>
> When I started out, it took me only one or two passes to realize I needed
a tripod. I know I'm not the only one to have cobbled together a frame that
mounts on a tripod and holds the antenna, two radios, a timepiece, and
operating aids. Seven years later, this system is still working great.
>
> Call me old fashioned, but a pad and pencil are indispensable for my
operations. I usually note several callsigns and grid squares before making
any calls, and if someone not on my list calls me, I'm quick to write their
call down. This method requires no extra wires and no batteries, while
creating a record that's easy to reference both during and after the pass.
It's a rare occasion that I want to listen to an SO-50 pass again after
getting through it "live."
>
> 73, Scott N1AIA
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 21:50:30 -0500
From: Dave Swanson <dave@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Yesterday at 1738Z
Message-ID: <55DBD7F6.6090106@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

I'll throw in my .02 since the conversation has moved into a domain that
I have some experience with.

I've experimented with varying ways of holding antennae, holding radios,
holding hand mics, writing stuff down, and tuning two knobs for
doppler...  As I, like most of my fellow humans, lacked the required 5
arms to hold everything, it was miserable. I tried a tripod only to be
unhappy with the reception, since I couldn't twist for polarity on the
fly. I got a voice recorder, but had the exact same thing happen as
ya'll did, although usually it was with cars, sirens, or low flying
airplanes blasting out the microphone. I was basically where she was
at... so let me, if I may be so bold, throw some pointers her way.

1. Get a headset and foot pedal. These things will run some cash, but
they're worth their weight in gold. Being able to hear the bird in your
headphones, blocking out the ambient noise is huge, and having the
microphone in front of your mouth all the time maximizes your modulation
of the transmitted signal. I got the Heil Micro Pro, and the FS-3 foot
pedal, but anything like these will work. Get whatever adapter is
required for whatever radio you're using to make them work. This will
solve several problems in one foul swoop, and free up a couple of the 5
hands required.

2. Find a fixed place to put your radio. I *think* Hope is still using
an HT, or a combination of HT's for her contacts. When I first started
on SO50  I was building cheap Yagi's for reception, and attaching my HT
right to the antennae itself with some zip ties. This had the dual
effect of minimizing my coax run, and freeing up yet another hand from
holding my radio. When I needed to shift for doppler, my free hand
reached to the radio on the beam, flicked a switch, and went right back
to it. Later on when I upgraded to the linear birds, and bigger radios,
I bought one of those little cheap folding tables at home depot for 20
bucks, and just carried it around in the Jeep with me. Having some place
to put the radios is big. With HT's, even something like a backpack that
has a strap across your chest is a great place to attach it, and keep it
close and accessible, without requiring another hand to hold.

3. Get tons of audio adapters. I like other people to be able to hear
what I'm doing.. I also want to hear things clearly... I also want to
record the pass without interference... these 3 wants typically exceed
the audio output of most radios. So, get a splitter, a recorder, a
volume attenuator, and an external speaker... or some combination of
everything. I will, at max, run a 3-way audio splitter, plug in my
headphones to one, plug in a speaker to another - with a long audio
cable away from me to eliminate any feedback, and a volume attenuator
feeding my voice recorder (because speaker output is typically too high
for most "line-in" plugs on voice recorders) into the third. It's a mess
of cables, but it accomplishes accuracy, demonstration, and recording,
all at the same time.

4. Write stuff down anyway. If I'm solo somewhere, no ones watching, and
I'm not trying to set DX distance records, I usually don't even mess
with my voice recorder. Even when I do, I've had it fail on me tons of
times. Usually it's cause I'm a bonehead and forget to check the
batteries first, but still the point is still valid.  Practically before
every pass I work, I jot down who I am (yes, I stumble over my own call
sign sometimes...) where I'm at (especially useful if I'm somewhere
other than home) the bird I'm working, the date, and the AOS and LOS
times of the upcoming pass. That basically leaves me with callsign and
grid, as the only two important things I *have* to record after each
QSO. For bonus points, if I've got a sked with someone (the horror!)
I'll pre-jot their callsign and grid down, and usually write 'Q' or put
a check or something next to it when we've made the contact. Now, this
DOES require a hand to write, but you've got the notepad on that fixed
place you put your radio, so it should be a simple pen pick up, notate,
and set back down... right? :D

5. Ditch the tripod, hold the antenna. This one I know will draw fire
from some, but as an exclusively portable operator, I stand by it. The
nerves transmit a signal to the muscles in a normal human's arm
somewhere in the range of 200-220mph. This is a faster reaction time
than any rotor I'm aware of, and it allows you to make hundreds (or
thousands if you ever watch how twitchy I am) of corrections during a
single pass. Do it enough, and you'll completely forget you're even
moving the antenna, following its arc across the sky, and constantly
twisting it for the best signal. Your ears will hear how strong the bird
should be, and your arm will just react. I can't explain why or how, but
it just will. In the month or so I used a tripod, I never got the hang
of moving the Arrow, going back to transmitting, and remembering to move
it again. A few weeks of holding my arrow and letting my ears be my
guide, and it was like a 6th sense. And, as I mentioned to Sean KX9X
recently after his roadtrip, holding an arrow for multiple passes for a
couple straight weeks in a row, will make you a great arm wrestler.

6. Develop a system. This one kind of goes with the last two, but figure
out how you want it all to go together, and get comfortable with it.
Whether you're in the backyard, or on a mountain, set things up the same
way, every time, and be able to do everything by reaction, instead of
thinking about it. For example, I always setup so the bird I'm working
will apex directly to the left of where I'm standing. I always hold my
arrow in my left hand. My right hand does the radio manipulation, and
quick note jotting. My right foot is always on the pedal. I always have
my notepad immediately to the right of my radio. I have the radio at
exactly the height level, and high enough I don't have to bend over. I
color coded all my coax cables, I memorized where the step and channel
lock buttons are, and can find them by feel. Working a pass anymore is
just a reaction, I don't even really have to think about anything, I
just set my phone on compass mode, watch the clock, and go.

So this turned into a Novel, but I hope there's some good info she can
use. I am an exclusively portable satellite operator, and plan to be for
some time. I've ran into all these problems, and like to have think I've
solved them. I also plan to pick your brain in about 8 years on how to
teach my little girl, who (at 4 months old) really wants to figure out
where those voices in the speaker of my 857 are coming from, effective
ways to work the birds herself.

73!

-Dave, KG5CCI






On 8/24/2015 8:23 PM, James Lea - WX4TV wrote:
> She used to use a tripod and will probably use it again in the future. 
This worked very well, but she wanted to try another way.  I believe that
kids learn by making mistakes.  Trying to hand hold the antenna and radios
is a mistake!  She will learn.
>
> The big issue with writing call signs for her is that she is still
learning to write.  Remember, she is a very young kid.  As her writing
improves, she will be able to do the paper method.  All in time.
>
> Thanks and 73,
>
> James
>
>> On Aug 24, 2015, at 8:55 PM, Scott Richardson <scott.xot@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> wasn?t able to write down the callsign while holding two radios and an
antenna.
>> When I started out, it took me only one or two passes to realize I needed
a tripod. I know I'm not the only one to have cobbled together a frame that
mounts on a tripod and holds the antenna, two radios, a timepiece, and
operating aids. Seven years later, this system is still working great.
>>
>> Call me old fashioned, but a pad and pencil are indispensable for my
operations. I usually note several callsigns and grid squares before making
any calls, and if someone not on my list calls me, I'm quick to write their
call down. This method requires no extra wires and no batteries, while
creating a record that's easy to reference both during and after the pass.
It's a rare occasion that I want to listen to an SO-50 pass again after
getting through it "live."
>>
>> 73, Scott N1AIA
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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>



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 24 Aug 2015 22:44:24 -0500
From: "Tom Schuessler" <tjschuessler@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] It wont be a satellite road trip, but.....
Message-ID: <005501d0dee8$58bfad00$0a3f0700$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Hello all,

My wife and I will be taking 5 days to drive a rental truck from DFW, North
Texas to Boston to move daughter and new husband's stuff to their new home
and law school.  The type of truck and the logistics of the trip will not
really work with casual satellite ops.  Maybe someday.

However, I would love to make terrestrial QSOs with some of you folks along
the way as I will have a dual bander and a small antenna mounted to the
truck. Would love to say hi on local repeaters along the way.

Here is the route and rough projected time table.

Friday, August 28th, Afternoon-evening.  Dallas, Texarkana, Little Rock.
Saturday, August 29th, Little Rock, Memphis, Nashville, Elizabethtown, KY,
Springfield KY.
Sunday, August 30th, Springfield, KY, Lexington, KY, Cincinnati, Columbus,
Cleveland.
Monday, August 31st, Erie, Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse, Schenectady.
Tuesday, September 1st Albany Springfield, Boston.

There might be some schedule flex, especially the last two days but that
should be close.  Contact me off list via my n5hyp@xxxxx.xxx email with
Callsign, city, repeater/s PL and other pertinent information.

Perhaps we can exchange more than just a Grid Square.  What a concept.

73 de N5HYP
Tom Schuessler
n5hyp@xxxxx.xxx




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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 04:16:26 +0000 (UTC)
From: Mark Thompson <wb9qzb_groups@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL/TAPR DCC (Digital Communications Conference),
Chicago, October 9 - 11, 2015
Message-ID:
<1173164441.46219.1440476186206.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8




2015 ARRL/TAPR DCC?(Digital Communications Conference)?
DoubleTree HotelArlington Heights, IL
October 9 - 11, 2015?

The Digital Communication Conference is the premiere annual Digital
Conference?covering all Digital Modes & Techniques including Data, Voice &
Television and SDR.??
The DCC has two full days of Technical presentations on Friday & Saturday,
concurrent Introductory forums on Saturday,?
a Saturday night Banquet with a Guest Speaker and a Sunday morning Seminar
deep dive into a technical subject.?
There are also Friday & Saturday Lunches and a Friday Night Social. ?
Those who have submitted a Technical Paper to be included in the Conference
Proceedings?have priority to present a presentation during the Technical
Forums,?however if you didn't submit a technical paper and want to present a
Technical or Introductory presentation?please contact the TAPR Office
at:?https://www.tapr.org/inforequest.php
The 2015 DCC will be held at the DoubleTree Hotel in Chicago northwest
suburb of Arlington Heights?not far from O'Hare airport with a free hotel
shuttle to O'Hare.?
Be sure to register for the DCC and reserve your hotel room early.
The DCC Early Bird Pre-Registration Discount ends on September 19th.?
DCC Registration is available at:?http://www.tapr.org/dcc#registration
The DCC Hotel Special Rate ends on September 15th.?DCC Hotel Information is
available at:?http://www.tapr.org/dcc#hotel
Look forward to your participation in the DCC.?






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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 07:36:02 -0400
From: Rick Walter <wb3csy@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Joe Fitzgerald <jfitzgerald@xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB
Message-ID: <31A13A3F-7BA6-4BFD-A491-5C09670EA06C@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Thank you all for your replies to my question. I did not realize I would not
see my message appear on the BB if I BCC'd it to myself. I appreciate the
information.
73,
Rick

Sent from Rick's iPad2

> On Aug 24, 2015, at 10:39 PM, Joe Fitzgerald <jfitzgerald@xxxx.xxx.xxx>
wrote:
>
>
>
>> On 8/24/2015 7:52 PM, Rick Walter wrote:
>> What is the average time between someone sending a
>> post and when it actually appears on the BB?
>
>
> When a message "appears on the BB" has a couple of different answers.
> Your note "appeared"  via the web interface a few seconds before 2:47 PM
> EDT today
>
> http://amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2015-August/054624.html
>
> Google's mail server accepted the remailed message from amsat-bb to
> wb3csy@xxxxx.xxx at 2:47:12 EDT.   Once Gmail accepted the message, that
> is the last I can see of it from the logs on our mail server. I don't
> know when it "appeared" in your in your inbox.  Google does strange and
> mysterious things* to protect its users from spam, perhaps they are
> using some new method that results in delivery delays that can't be
> observed from the sending mail server.
>
> Rick,  thanks for this report.   I'll see if there is anything I can do
> to improve delivery from our end.
>
>
> -Joe KM1P
> AMSAT Electronic Services
>
> *Sometimes our mail server is "greylisted" by Google.  Greylisting is a
> spam control method where mail is temporarily rejected on the theory
> that spammers usually don't attempt periodic retries to a temporary
> delivery failure like legitimate mail senders do.   It is not clear why
> we are put on Google's greylist (or how we get off of it), but that does
> not appear to be what happened here since they accepted the remailed
> message right away.
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:07:14 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Notification of passes
Message-ID:
<CALn0fKOVLcb1r4J2fQmm75CNV=dVq7L=Ltfj8w+q+VyQhdqsjQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I agree with the smart phone calendar idea. That's what I do, and the
heavens-above app has an export to calendar function that makes the
event automatically. I usually add all the passes I'm interested in
before the weekend starts, or whenever I'll have time to work the
birds!

On Mon, Aug 24, 2015 at 8:04 PM, Steve May <steve.w5iem@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I have a spreadsheet that I have used in the past to import pass data into
> a Google Calendar. That calendar had specific alerts for the passes.
>
> But, after finding the ISS Detector app for Android I never use the old
> method because ISS Detector automatically updates depending on my location.
>
> Steve, W5IEM
>
> On Mon, Aug 24, 2015, 7:06 PM Bruce <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> on an iphone, the pxsat app will allow you to select a particular
>> satellite and then set reminders automatically for the pass of your
>> choosing when you look at the upcoming list. on the main screen, click
>> on the gear, then click on the I (for information on that satellite)
>> that you want to see passes for. then tap each pass you want to be
>> notified about. you can then click on the gear in the lower right
>> (param) and set the pass notifications margin for 30 seconds, 1 minute,
>> 2 minutes or 5 minutes. i don't think a one hour before the pass is
>> useful. that would be like letting you know the day before there will be
>> 3 passes tomorrow. you will be busy or forget when that hour comes up.
>> maybe a combination of using the calendar to notify you an hour before
>> and the the tracking app notifying you 5 minutes before would be a good
>> combination.
>>
>> 73...bruce
>>
>> On 8/24/2015 4:47 PM, Skyler Fennell wrote:
>> > I have been very bad at making satellite contacts recently. The main
>> reason is because they aren't at a specific time every day/week and I don't
>> look for passes very often. When I do search for passes, I am busy during
>> the pass or don't have enough time to prep for a pass in 10 minutes. In
>> addition, I can only work FM, so there aren't many sats (like one)
>> >
>> > Has anybody ever found something to get notified when a pass is coming
>> up (maybe in the next few hours or so) via text message or email or
>> something else?
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Skyler KD0WHB
>> >
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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>> program!
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>> >
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 08:44:17 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 experimental software
Message-ID: <fb13ef861ab79576719888febd464028@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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I guess because I have been living with it night and day since 2007 and
working on it over and over again for 8 years as PSAT.  But you re right.
I don't like the ambiguity.  Ill try to say PSAT(NO44).

-----Original Message-----
From: Ted [mailto:k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxxx
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:30 PM
To: 'Robert Bruninga'; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: RE: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 experimental software

Just curious...why do we not refer to this sat as NO-84? Seems to me that
consistency is the best way to go

73, ted
K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Robert
Bruninga
Sent: Monday, August 24, 2015 7:17 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 experimental software

PSAT seems to be returning to good health.  We will keep the digipeater
off, but will now announce it is safe to resume PSK31 experiments.

Remember, when we ran out of power, great progress had been made with
Andy's pre-compensating PSK31 uplink software (below).  Here also are the
latest elements for PSAT:

PSAT
1 90720U          15234.36512451 +.00008395 +00000-0 +21488-3 0 0099
2 90720 054.9897 293.1329 0244566 052.6872 309.6216 15.1526532401420

When PSAT-1 is using the PSAT-1 callsign, that means the digipeater is
off.
But as of now, PSK31 experimentation is authorized.  28.120 PSK31 uplink
and
435.350 FM downlink.

Bob, WB4aPR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of
aflowers@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
Sent: Wednesday, July 15, 2015 6:41 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSAT PSK31 experimental software

I put together an experimental program called DopplerPSK to compensate for
the Doppler shift on the NO-84 (or NO-83) PSK31 uplink.  In essence, its a
PSK31 transmitter that is merged with an orbital propagator to cause your
transmitted signal to drift exactly opposite to uplink Doppler effect.  It
does this in a phase-continuous correction so that you don't get errors
due to discontinuous frequency adjustments from controlling a radio in
discrete steps.
In the case of PSAT and BricSat, it should cause your signal to stay at
constant frequency in the satellite's uplink receiver, and thus you should
get a stable frequency on the FM downlink as well.  In turn, this means
you should be able to use your favorite PSK31 demodulating software to
copy the downlink since the frequency drift should stay well within the
AFC tolerance of the software.
Anyway, if there are any adventurous people who are set up to give this a
go, I would be interested in seeing if it actually works.
You can find a rough quick-start guide (which contains an explanation of
how it works and what you need to get started) and the application package
on the rather minimalist page here:
http://www.frontiernet.net/~aflowers/dopplerpsk/dopplerpsk.html
It's an experiment, so be prepared for disappointment.  I am :-) Andy
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:47:19 -0300
From: "LW8EXS" <lw8exs@xxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] report rx NO-84
Message-ID: <ED6978EA4BA54EA791506E20858A6ED4@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

13:45 UTC

1:Fm PSAT-1 To APOFF Via ARISS <UI R Pid=F0 Len=50> [10:45:05R]
!08  .  N\058  .  ES140/999/W3ADO  s#014548,0z290

73s LW8EXS

Mercedes ( Buenos Aires ) Argentina

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 10:05:08 -0400
From: "njwater ." <nj.waters@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Question about AMSAT BB
Message-ID:
<CAEkBUVkLtLcsQ47SKpL-mV70-SReR=8=02UG8FYUyk42Xj6hvw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I receive a daily digest, but other than checking the archives, is there
any real-time or near-real-time way to
see new bb messages?

Rob, KA2CZU

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Rick mentioned:
>* I BCC it to myself. It showed up in 5 seconds. Five hours
*>* later, I still do not see it listed on the AMSAT BB.
*
OK, EMike rang a bell :-) The list won't duplicate messages. The settings
assumed you already received the message with your BCC. Try it without the
BCC on your next message and you should see your messages shortly afterward.
There is a Mailman setting for NODUP for all subscribers.

The timing of the message actually appearing for you also depends on local
settings. I use MS-Office Outlook for my primary e-mail. My Outlook settings
are to check for new mail every 300 seconds (5 minutes). So a message
actually arriving would be sometime in that 5 minute window depending on the
time in the receive window when I sent the message.

I use Gmail on my Android tablet and it usually receives messages sooner
mostly because it is not likely waiting for the 5 minute receive window as
in my Outlook settings.

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKMk9jkm at amsat.org
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
AMSAT VP User Services


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