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Today's Topics:
1. Calpoly kepler host down (PE0SAT | Amateur Radio)
2. Re: Calpoly kepler host down (Bent, OZ6BL)
3. Re: dx on fo-29 (Hector, CO6CBF)
4. Online Sat Predictions (Amsat Argentina)
5. NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion (Robert McGwier)
6. Re: NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion (Andrew Glasbrenner)
7. Re: NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion (Greg D)
8. Re: NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion (Franklin Antonio)
9. Re: Online Sat Predictions (Gus)
10. Re: NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion (M5AKA)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 16:10:50 +0200
From: PE0SAT | Amateur Radio <pe0sat@xxxxx.xx>
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Calpoly kepler host down
Message-ID: <421d71d2491bf79cec1fbe4e9b790ed3@xxxxx.xx>
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Hi,
Thanks for reading this. A question is the following host temporary
down
or is it moved to another location, if so could you please tell me/us
the
new location.
http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/~ops/keps/kepler.txt
73 Jan PE0SAT
--
With regards PE0SAT
Internet web-page http://www.pe0sat.vgnet.nl/
DK3WN SatBlog http://www.dk3wn.info/p/
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 17:50:43 +0200
From: "Bent, OZ6BL" <oz6bl@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Calpoly kepler host down
Message-ID: <53DFABD3.2000709@xxxxx.xxx>
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On 2014-08-04 16:10, PE0SAT | Amateur Radio wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for reading this. A question is the following host temporary down
> or is it moved to another location, if so could you please tell me/us the
> new location.
>
> http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/~ops/keps/kepler.txt
>
>
> 73 Jan PE0SAT
>
It is up and running now
73, Bent/OZ6BL
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 14:02:09 -0400
From: "Hector, CO6CBF" <co6cbf@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: "'Paul Stoetzer'" <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>, "'Lizeth Norman'"
<normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] dx on fo-29
Message-ID: <006001cfb00e$380b2940$a8217bc0$@xxxxxx.xx.xx>
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Hello Guys
I have been encouraging some South American operators to get starting or
come back to the birds. I am working on my OSCAR Century Award. Now, I just
need three entities more.
It has been a great challenge for me! Here, we cannot use AO-7 mode B, 432
MHz is restricted for Hams. FO-29 has been my work horse!
After some researches, I found some potential operators in Uruguay, Chile,
Argentina, El Salvador, Guyana, Grenada, Costa Rica and Trinidad & Tobago.
Unfortunately, some of them think that satellites are terrible hard to work.
Julien, 9Z4FZ accepted to come back to the birds and we have been trying to
complete a contact; we have been very close to complete it but no joy yet.
Julien has the gear to work all operational satellites but he has some
issues with antennas and he doesn't receive well. He is working on improve
his station. He said his satellite interest has resurrected!
I guess, it will be a new grid and new country for a lot of operators.
Please, take a time to send an encouraging message to him.
73!
Hector, CO6CBF/KF5YXV
EL92sd
-----Mensaje original-----
De: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx En nombre
de Paul Stoetzer
Enviado el: Monday, August 04, 2014 07:11
Para: Lizeth Norman
CC: <, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxxxx
Asunto: Re: [amsat-bb] dx on fo-29
That'd be a nice catch. Hope we can find some info and hear him again.
There is a 6m spot for 9Z4F from last October, but I can't find any other
info anywhere either.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Aug 4, 2014 at 7:06 AM, Lizeth Norman <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> Checked qrz and others. Nothing on the new station I heard today: 9z4f.
> Call comes back as Tridindad/Tobago.
> Anyone know anything? I was playing with my dongle and wasn't able to
> get the station reconfigured to come back to him. Strong 5/9 into the
> bird,
> 73 de Norm n3ykf
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 17:22:14 -0300
From: Amsat Argentina <amsatlu@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Online Sat Predictions
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Try http://amsat.org.ar/sat.htm just finished.
Quickly provides on single screen most data required for ham sats & active
maps & graphics.
Allows select Location & Sat showing in local time actual & future
precalculated passes.
Comments, suggestions, welcome.
73, lu7abf, Pedro
lu7abf@xxxxx.xxx.xx
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 18:54:54 -0400
From: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion
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I hope they aren't wrong because they clearly don't understand how it
works!!!
http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052
Bob
N4HY
--
Bob McGwier
Co-Owner and Technical Director, Federated Wireless, LLC
Professor Virginia Tech
Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 19:11:37 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>, amsat bb
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion
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This part made me perk up:
"therefore is potentially demonstrating an interaction with the quantum
vacuum virtual plasma"
I clearly have some reading to do.
73, Drew KO4MA
-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
>Sent: Aug 4, 2014 6:54 PM
>To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>Subject: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion
>
>I hope they aren't wrong because they clearly don't understand how it
>works!!!
>
>http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052
>
>Bob
>N4HY
>
>
>
>--
>Bob McGwier
>Co-Owner and Technical Director, Federated Wireless, LLC
>Professor Virginia Tech
>Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
>Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 16:35:14 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>, amsat bb
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion
Message-ID: <53E018B2.1090901@xxxxx.xxx>
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How can you tell? They've got enough 10-gallon words in the Abstract to
propel mountains...
Still, I've been wondering if we'll ever find a space propulsion
mechanism that doesn't involve throwing parts of the spacecraft overboard.
Greg KO6TH
Robert McGwier wrote:
> I hope they aren't wrong because they clearly don't understand how it
> works!!!
>
> http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052
>
> Bob
> N4HY
>
>
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2014 16:41:18 -0700
From: Franklin Antonio <antonio@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion
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At 03:54 PM 8/4/2014, Robert McGwier wrote:
>I hope they aren't wrong because they clearly don't understand how it
>works!!! http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052
The result is surely wrong.
When measuring MICROnewtons, from a device that's going to be getting
very hot (because the microwave energy is dissipated in the walls of
the cavity) you may need to do the experiment in a vacuum, to avoid
air convection confusing the experiment. In any case, they say they
worked on the experiment for 8 days, which is not enough time to
figure out all the engineering aspects of the experiment.
They did the test in a vacuum chamber (which means they must have
been thinking along the lines of my statement above about convection,
but they did the test with "the door closed but at ambient
atmospheric pressure". Maybe they didn't have enough time to do the
tests at vacuum.
If they have resources to do more work, clearly pulling a vacuum on
that chamber is the next thing to do. I predict that the thrust will
disappear as the air is pumped out of the chamber.
However, of course I'm not absolutely sure its wrong. I'll be very
happy if it turns out to be correct.
My bet, however, is firmly on the no side.
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 04 Aug 2014 20:31:41 -0400
From: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Online Sat Predictions
Message-ID: <53E025ED.8060400@xxxxx.xxx>
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Looks good. Doesn't seem to know what language to speak, tho. Parts in
English, parts Spanish...
On 08/04/2014 04:22 PM, Amsat Argentina wrote:
> Try http://amsat.org.ar/sat.htm just finished.
>
> Quickly provides on single screen most data required for ham sats & active
> maps & graphics.
>
> Allows select Location & Sat showing in local time actual & future
> precalculated passes.
>
> Comments, suggestions, welcome.
>
> 73, lu7abf, Pedro
> lu7abf@xxxxx.xxx.xx
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
--
Gus 8P6SM
The Easternmost Isle
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 5 Aug 2014 09:52:19 +0100
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion
Message-ID:
<1407228739.59621.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Snake oil in space
On Tuesday, 5 August 2014, 0:43, Franklin Antonio <antonio@xxx.xxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
At 03:54 PM 8/4/2014, Robert McGwier wrote:
>I hope they aren't wrong because they clearly don't understand how it
>works!!!? http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052
The result is surely wrong.
When measuring MICROnewtons, from a device that's going to be getting
very hot (because the microwave energy is dissipated in the walls of
the cavity) you may need to do the experiment in a vacuum, to avoid
air convection confusing the experiment.? In any case, they say they
worked on the experiment for 8 days, which is not enough time to
figure out all the engineering aspects of the experiment.
They did the test in a vacuum chamber (which means they must have
been thinking along the lines of my statement above about convection,
but they did the test with "the door closed but at ambient
atmospheric pressure".? Maybe they didn't have enough time to do the
tests at vacuum.
If they have resources to do more work, clearly pulling a vacuum on
that chamber is the next thing to do.? I predict that the thrust will
disappear as the air is pumped out of the chamber.
However, of course I'm not absolutely sure its wrong.? I'll be very
happy if it turns out to be correct.
My bet, however, is firmly on the no side.
_______________________________________________
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Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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