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Today's Topics:

   1. Anyone in eastern Florida that can listen for a mylar balloon
      carrying APRS today? (wb8elk@xxx.xxxx
   2. A073 (jeffory broughton)
   3. Upcoming ARISS contact with Dearborn Public Schools,
      Dearborn, Michigan (n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
   4. Re: Ao 73 problems (George Henry)
   5. AO-85 telemetry discrepencies (Dave Remnant)
   6. AO-85 (W3MAT .)
   7. Re: AO-85 (Paul Stoetzer)
   8. Re: Ao 73 problems (Bob)
   9. Re: AO-85 (Jeff A. Boyd)
  10. Re: Ao 73 problems (David G0MRF)
  11. Re: Ao 73 problems (Bob)
  12. NO-84 (KO6TZ Bob)
  13. AO85, 20:01 UC (Loon - W3MAT)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 13:13:58 -0400
From: wb8elk@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Anyone in eastern Florida that can listen for a
mylar balloon carrying APRS today?
Message-ID: <1509ffe0e62-27f2-61c9@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Launched from Huntsville, AL on Friday, a 36" Mylar party balloon carrying
an APRS transmitter (WB8ELK-3) is now about 300 miles east of Florida and
managed one digipeater hit from that position this morning. If anyone in
eastern Florida can point a gain antenna east they might be able to copy the
APRS packets which I also transmit on 144.340 MHz once a minute. It is
currently 300 miles east of Melbourne FL slowly heading south towards the
eastern Bahamas. It is solar-powered only so will only operate during the
day today.


- Bill


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 10:06:24 -0400
From: jeffory broughton <jefforybroughton@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] A073
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The ao73 has problems.
First of all the uplink could be as much as 5-10 kHz off from the published
numbers.so send a series of dits from your cw key while you sweep around
with ur uplink vfo to find yourself.
Once you find yourself, you have to adjust your uplink frequency about 200
hz per 30 min to keep up a drifting oscillator on the bird while monitoring
your downlink.once u get the hang of it,
It's not so bas.its a very very good with a great receiver ! P.S IT'S ONLY
AVAILABLE
AFTER DARK ON WEEK DAYS AND ALL WEEKEND FOR AMATEUR USE.
73
Jeff
WB8RJY

jeff broughton


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 22:47:40 -0400
From: <n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Dearborn Public
Schools,	Dearborn, Michigan
Message-ID: <8B1301C03598486796E4B9BE56E99575@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

An International Space Station school contact has been planned with
participants at Dearborn Public Schools, Dearborn, Michigan on 27 Oct. The
event is scheduled to begin at approximately 16:01 UTC. It is recommended
that you start listening approximately 10 minutes before this time.The
duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The
contact will be direct between NA1SS and K8UTT. The contact should be
audible the eastern U.S, and adjacent areas. Interested parties are invited
to listen in on the 145.80 MHz downlink. The contact is expected to be
conducted in English.





School Story not available at this time





Participants will ask as many of the following questions as time allows:



1.  How do you brush your teeth?

2.  What do you do if you get ill or hurt?

3.  What is the official language on board the International Space Station?

4.  How would you describe the feeling of being in space?

5.  What do you eat in space?

6.  Do you see the earth, sun, and moon rotate?

7.  What was it like when the Super Moon Lunar Eclipse came into your view?

8.  What is your most recent, successful experiment you have done at the

    International Space Station?

9.  How do you sleep when there's no gravity holding you to a bed?

10.  How do you stay fit in space?

11.  When you were about to take off, how did you feel?

12.  Do you have any side effects when you return to earth?

13.  How do astronauts cope with the psychological stress of being away from

     their families and friends for a long time?

14.  How does our digestive system work in space with no gravity? How does

     the food go down the throat and stomach?

15.  How long can an astronaut stay in space before having to come back to

     earth?

16.  Is there a way that the space rocket ships could reduce the amount of

     energy they use?

17.  How does not having a normal day/night cycle affect your sleeping and

     waking hours?

18.  Why do you lose bone mass when you come from space?

19.  Because of the fact that up in space there is zero gravity, how does it

     feel when you come down from space and back to earth?

20.  if there was something you could change about your space environment,

     what would it be?









PLEASE CHECK THE FOLLOWING FOR MORE INFORMATION ON ARISS UPDATES:







      Visit ARISS on Facebook. We can be found at Amateur Radio on the

      International Space Station (ARISS).



      To receive our Twitter updates, follow @xxxxxxxxxxxx





Next planned event(s):



      1. Daggett Montessori School K-8, Fort  Worth, Texas, USA, direct via

         K5COW The ISS callsign is presently scheduled  to be NA1SS

         The scheduled astronaut is Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS

         Contact is a go for Thu,  Oct 29, 2015 14:12 UTC



ARISS is an international educational outreach program partnering the
volunteer support and leadership from AMSAT and IARU societies around the
world with the ISS space agencies partners: NASA, Russian Space Agency, ESA,
CNES, JAXA, and CSA.



ARISS offers an opportunity for students to experience the excitement of
Amateur Radio by talking directly with crewmembers on-board the
International Space Station. Teachers, parents and communities see, first
hand, how Amateur Radio and crewmembers on ISS can energize youngsters'
interest in science, technology, and learning. Further information on the
ARISS program is available on the website http://www.ariss.org/



Thank you & 73,

David - AA4KN






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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 23:21:38 -0500
From: "George Henry" <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
To: "mm0kjg" <mm0kjg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ao 73 problems
Message-ID: <46605C6039254F0394139C41654F11F8@xxxxxxx>
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reply-type=response

I have found that computer tuning for AO-73 simply doesn't work...  the
satellite frequency drifts enough that your up- and downlinks won't stay in
sync for long.  I leave my downlink frequency alone as much as possible
(unless needed to chase the other guy), and manually adjust the uplink, and
that has worked well for me.

George, KA3HSW


----- Original Message -----
From: "mm0kjg via AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 6:24 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Ao 73 problems


> Hello all.
> I seem to have a wee problem with working Ao-73. The problem I cant work
> it at all. I am hearing people talking but when I attempt to find my
> downlink nothing heard. I have tried sending cw up and tuning downlink and
> also tuning uplink and nothing.  I have set up tuning for 145.950 down and
> 435.150 up. Am missing something here?
> I spoke to my good friend and very good Sat operator Derrick Gm0fmw and he
> also cant access it with a fairly good antenna set-up. We are both in
> Edinburgh Scotland Is this the problem?
> Please all help will be appreciated .
>
> Thanks Kev MM0KJG
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2015 18:49:41 -0000
From: "Dave Remnant" <dave.remnant@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 telemetry discrepencies
Message-ID: <000001d10f55$e8fdd0c0$baf97240$@xxxxxxx@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

I have been keeping a record of telemetry frames received (as per the total
shown in bottom right of software vs totals appearing in AMSAT Fox
Leaderboard Statistics.



My findings are shown below which show some large differences.



I have tried to understand where/why/how etc but can't find much to read
about the subject.



I am wondering if the server is not receiving all the packets then are the
experiments affected by this?



Can anyone explain why there are differences and what it means? According to
the software zero frames are queued so I am puzzled.



Has anyone else noticed this or am I the only person documenting this.



The table is below (I hope it comes out OK on the BB, if not please PM me
and I'll forward to whoever would like it to review)




Pass total

Decoded total in software

Server

Pass total

Difference

Difference between PC & Server totals


1304

936

		368


78

1382

989

53

25

393


95

1477

1048

59

36

429


19

1496

1060

12

7

436


95

1591

1135

75

20

456


26

1617

1159

24

2

458


93

1710

1206

47

46

504


94

1804

1255

49

45

549


122

1926

1326

71

51

600

						
		
Total diff

232

	



Great job to all involved.



73 Dave (M0SAT)



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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:02:50 -0400
From: "W3MAT ." <w3mat03@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85
Message-ID:
<CAK=nGPa7=DOzK74YEYU7mafHd+SZ5i956NPREp1qH+SUCQkd5Q@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

AO-85 passes sounded good over the east coast this weekend.  However, I set
up for the 04:06 pass and only heard what sounded like the satellite back
in test mode (female voice announcing this is Fox-1).

What is the status for this week, as there is a very good overhead pass
today at 20:06 UTC?

On a side note, I like others I believe, have found that getting into AO-85
with your HT and handheld Arrow or Elk antenna to be almost impossible.
Last evening I set up the Icom and used 20 watts, that was the first time I
actually made more than one contact.


Thanks

Loon


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:10:25 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "W3MAT ." <w3mat03@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Loon,

If you hear "Hi This is Amateur Radio Satellite Fox-1", the satellite
is in transponder mode. A transmission with the 67 Hz tone should
activate it.

The satellite is open for use for now, but there is likely to be
another round of testing later this week.

73,

Paul, N8HM



On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 9:02 AM, W3MAT . <w3mat03@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> AO-85 passes sounded good over the east coast this weekend.  However, I set
> up for the 04:06 pass and only heard what sounded like the satellite back
> in test mode (female voice announcing this is Fox-1).
>
> What is the status for this week, as there is a very good overhead pass
> today at 20:06 UTC?
>
> On a side note, I like others I believe, have found that getting into AO-85
> with your HT and handheld Arrow or Elk antenna to be almost impossible.
> Last evening I set up the Icom and used 20 watts, that was the first time I
> actually made more than one contact.
>
>
> Thanks
>
> Loon
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:52:00 -0400
From: Bob <WB4SON@xxxxx.xxx>
To: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
Cc: mm0kjg <mm0kjg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ao 73 problems
Message-ID:
<CAPonRZ87KSg737NtLbTHQNpk67E2dfWV7HUNdg_mLQtQ+P=yqw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi George,

You are one of many who have said manual tuning is best, and after so many
similar comments, I should probably give that a whirl.

Of course this will vary for rig and doppler, but I'd be curious to know
what you find your tx frequency to be at mid pass?

The reason for asking is the published spec is

Uplink 435.150 - 435.130 MHz LSB (Inverting)
Downlink 145.950 - 145.970 MHz USB

Implying that a RX of 145.960 (mid band) would have a TX of 435.140.  From
my tests it appears that I would actually have to transmit on 435.156 to
hear myself at mid-pass.  That, of course, appears to be outside of the
published passband, and those published specs probably prevent anyone new
to the bird from ever finding themselves.

I appreciate and data or feedback.

73, Bob, WB4SON




On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:21 AM, George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> I have found that computer tuning for AO-73 simply doesn't work...  the
> satellite frequency drifts enough that your up- and downlinks won't stay in
> sync for long.  I leave my downlink frequency alone as much as possible
> (unless needed to chase the other guy), and manually adjust the uplink, and
> that has worked well for me.
>
> George, KA3HSW
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mm0kjg via AMSAT-BB" <
> amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2015 6:24 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Ao 73 problems
>
>
> Hello all.
>> I seem to have a wee problem with working Ao-73. The problem I cant work
>> it at all. I am hearing people talking but when I attempt to find my
>> downlink nothing heard. I have tried sending cw up and tuning downlink and
>> also tuning uplink and nothing.  I have set up tuning for 145.950 down and
>> 435.150 up. Am missing something here?
>> I spoke to my good friend and very good Sat operator Derrick Gm0fmw and
>> he also cant access it with a fairly good antenna set-up. We are both in
>> Edinburgh Scotland Is this the problem?
>> Please all help will be appreciated .
>>
>> Thanks Kev MM0KJG
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 23:21:33 +0900
From: "Jeff A. Boyd" <the2belo@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85
Message-ID: <20151026232133.9947.63087B45@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-2022-JP"

On Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:10:25 -0400, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

> If you hear "Hi This is Amateur Radio Satellite Fox-1", the satellite
> is in transponder mode. A transmission with the 67 Hz tone should
> activate it.

(Thank you, Fox designers, for not requiring a different tone every 10
minutes like SO-50!)

That turns out to be a good barometer from my QTH for how high up the sat
has to get before someone can successfully activate it. When it comes up
from the south over the Pacific, it might get up to 20? elevation before
someone starts calling CQ. I know
for certain that my 5-watt HT and I are not triggering it before then.

--
J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B
the2belo@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx
http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/
http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS
Twitter: @xxxxxxxx



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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 11:06:37 -0400
From: David G0MRF <g0mrf@xxx.xxx>
To: WB4SON@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ao 73 problems
Message-ID: <150a4afd1f9-235-c7a@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


Hi Bob.

AO-73 is difficult to track using a PC as there is a fixed offset on the
receive crystal oscillator together with a variation in frequency which is
temperature dependent.
Consequently, the ideal midband frequency when the satellite is at TCA will
be different for a pass in eclipse or a pass during the illuminated part of
the orbit.

As you know, it takes a bit of getting use to, but once you get the feel for
it, manual tuning can get good results.
I agree the published frequencies should probably include the fixed offset
so people can get a little closer to the 'correct' frequencies for success.

73

David




-----Original Message-----
From: Bob <WB4SON@xxxxx.xxx>
To: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
CC: mm0kjg <mm0kjg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>; AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:52
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ao 73 problems


Hi George,

You are one of many who have said manual tuning is best, and after
so many
similar comments, I should probably give that a whirl.

Of course
this will vary for rig and doppler, but I'd be curious to know
what you find
your tx frequency to be at mid pass?

The reason for asking is the published
spec is

Uplink 435.150 - 435.130 MHz LSB (Inverting)
Downlink 145.950 -
145.970 MHz USB

Implying that a RX of 145.960 (mid band) would have a TX of
435.140.  From
my tests it appears that I would actually have to transmit on
435.156 to
hear myself at mid-pass.  That, of course, appears to be outside of
the
published passband, and those published specs probably prevent anyone
new
to the bird from ever finding themselves.

I appreciate and data or
feedback.

73, Bob, WB4SON




On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:21 AM, George
Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> I have found that computer tuning for AO-73
simply doesn't work...  the
> satellite frequency drifts enough that your up-
and downlinks won't stay in
> sync for long.  I leave my downlink frequency
alone as much as possible
> (unless needed to chase the other guy), and
manually adjust the uplink, and
> that has worked well for me.
>
> George,
KA3HSW
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "mm0kjg via AMSAT-BB" <
>
amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Sunday, October 25,
2015 6:24 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Ao 73 problems
>
>
> Hello all.
>> I
seem to have a wee problem with working Ao-73. The problem I cant work
>> it at
all. I am hearing people talking but when I attempt to find my
>> downlink
nothing heard. I have tried sending cw up and tuning downlink and
>> also
tuning uplink and nothing.  I have set up tuning for 145.950 down and
>>
435.150 up. Am missing something here?
>> I spoke to my good friend and very
good Sat operator Derrick Gm0fmw and
>> he also cant access it with a fairly
good antenna set-up. We are both in
>> Edinburgh Scotland Is this the
problem?
>> Please all help will be appreciated .
>>
>> Thanks Kev MM0KJG
>>
_______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.
AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide
without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the
author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 12:15:10 -0400
From: Bob <WB4SON@xxxxx.xxx>
To: David G0MRF <g0mrf@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ao 73 problems
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Hi David,

You are spot on, fortunately, this old dog used to manual tune all the
time, so its just a matter of me going back to my original ways to doing
things.

Knowing that the the LO is changing around a bit with temp makes me
understand why the Doppler corrections never seemed to fit what I was
hearing from the bird itself, even thought most of my operation is during
Eclipse (before it emerges back into light, when the temp should be cold
and fairly stable).

AO-73 is a great bird, and a pleasure to work, but I do hear people time
and again saying they can never hear themselves on the downlink.  All it
would take is a published hint to try transmitting higher by about 8-12 KHz
for example, and I think folks would have much more luck.  The information
is out there, in various forum posts, personal blogs, and message systems,
it just hasn't been adopted by authoritative sources like funcube.org.uk,
or AMSAT itself (which list the original ideal UL/DL relationships).  Until
then it is sort of unconfirmed rumor.

Thanks again!

73, Bob, WB4SON



On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 11:06 AM, David G0MRF <g0mrf@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> Hi Bob.
>
> AO-73 is difficult to track using a PC as there is a fixed offset on the
> receive crystal oscillator together with a variation in frequency which is
> temperature dependent.
> Consequently, the ideal midband frequency when the satellite is at TCA
> will be different for a pass in eclipse or a pass during the illuminated
> part of the orbit.
>
> As you know, it takes a bit of getting use to, but once you get the feel
> for it, manual tuning can get good results.
> I agree the published frequencies should probably include the fixed offset
> so people can get a little closer to the 'correct' frequencies for success.
>
> 73
>
> David
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob <WB4SON@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: George Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
> CC: mm0kjg <mm0kjg@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>; AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 13:52
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ao 73 problems
>
> Hi George,
>
> You are one of many who have said manual tuning is best, and after
> so many
> similar comments, I should probably give that a whirl.
>
> Of course
> this will vary for rig and doppler, but I'd be curious to know
> what you find
> your tx frequency to be at mid pass?
>
> The reason for asking is the published
> spec is
>
> Uplink 435.150 - 435.130 MHz LSB (Inverting)
> Downlink 145.950 -
> 145.970 MHz USB
>
> Implying that a RX of 145.960 (mid band) would have a TX of
> 435.140.  From
> my tests it appears that I would actually have to transmit on
> 435.156 to
> hear myself at mid-pass.  That, of course, appears to be outside of
> the
> published passband, and those published specs probably prevent anyone
> new
> to the bird from ever finding themselves.
>
> I appreciate and data or
> feedback.
>
> 73, Bob, WB4SON
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 12:21 AM, George
> Henry <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > I have found that computer tuning for AO-73
> simply doesn't work...  the
> > satellite frequency drifts enough that your up-
> and downlinks won't stay in
> > sync for long.  I leave my downlink frequency
> alone as much as possible
> > (unless needed to chase the other guy), and
> manually adjust the uplink, and
> > that has worked well for me.
> >
> > George,
> KA3HSW
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message ----- From: "mm0kjg via AMSAT-BB" <
> >amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> > To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> > Sent: Sunday, October 25,
> 2015 6:24 AM
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Ao 73 problems
> >
> >
> > Hello all.
> >> I
> seem to have a wee problem with working Ao-73. The problem I cant work
> >> it at
> all. I am hearing people talking but when I attempt to find my
> >> downlink
> nothing heard. I have tried sending cw up and tuning downlink and
> >> also
> tuning uplink and nothing.  I have set up tuning for 145.950 down and
> >>
> 435.150 up. Am missing something here?
> >> I spoke to my good friend and very
> good Sat operator Derrick Gm0fmw and
> >> he also cant access it with a fairly
> good antenna set-up. We are both in
> >> Edinburgh Scotland Is this the
> problem?
> >> Please all help will be appreciated .
> >>
> >> Thanks Kev MM0KJG
> >>
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 09:48:20 -0700
From: KO6TZ Bob <my.callsign@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] NO-84
Message-ID: <562E5954.60307@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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The 10m band was exceptionally quiet ( S-2 noise),  this morning during
the 15:39u pass.

As a result, PSK-31 copy thru NO-84 was "As Advertised".  The copy was
almost flawless except for a very few errors due to fade from satellite
rotation.  Too bad no one else was around.

KO6TZ    BOB


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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2015 16:54:25 -0400
From: Loon - W3MAT <w3mat03@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO85, 20:01 UC
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Over FN10 at 85 degrees.  Heard N0JY and a "2" station but couldn't make out
the call.  For a high pass it was very noisy and I found it difficult to get
into, even at 20 watts.  I think I'd rather have a 30-45 degree pass.

W3MAT

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