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Today's Topics:

   1. Running dual IC706MKII-G radios (Tom Warren)
   2. Re: Rosetta probe has rendezvoused with comet (JoAnne Maenpaa)
   3. Perseid Pings on the Internet (JoAnne Maenpaa)
   4. Reception of UKube-1 FUNcube-2 Beacon (M5AKA)
   5. Re: NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion (Robert McGwier)
   6. Cross Country SDR Sentry 10 (Les Rayburn)
   7. Re: NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion (JoAnne Maenpaa)
   8. Re: Cross Country SDR Sentry 10 (Stefan Wagener)
   9. AO-73 tonight at 02:58Z (Paul Stoetzer)
  10. Re: AO-73 tonight at 02:58Z (Paul Stoetzer)
  11. Re: Cross Country SDR Sentry 10 (Les Rayburn)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 08:36:34 -0400
From: Tom Warren <mtnest@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Running dual IC706MKII-G radios
Message-ID: <D6988E11-5B3E-4571-A994-6224EFEEEDF4@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252


  As a follow-up to this thread, I would like to thank all who replied to my
questions
and helped me along the way. By following the instructions given, I now have
both Icom?s running together with
SatPC32?..how sweet !!!!  Sure beats using the ?ol overlay plotter?wasn?t it
an Oscarlator ?

  Thanks again and it?s time to finish my Satellite station with some
antennas (cp)
and get on the air ;0) I?ve already completed the WRAPS-II az/el rotator
system.

73
Tom
W4TMW

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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 07:39:00 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Rosetta probe has rendezvoused with comet
Message-ID: <000801cfb173$66b29a10$3417ce30$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

> The space probe has passed within 1,000 kilometers of the
> comet and is maneuvering to match velocity.

ESA Webcast is currently providing looping playback of the Rosetta
mission and the rendezvous from earlier this morning.

I followed the link from http://www.universetoday.com with the title
...
Rosetta on Final Approach to Historic Comet Rendezvous - Watch Live
Here

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
Editor, AMSAT Journal




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 09:46:46 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Perseid Pings on the Internet
Message-ID: <003b01cfb185$4116be50$c3443af0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

The Perseid meteor shower peak is predicted to occur between August 11
to 13. There are a few pre-peak pings already audible. The activity
should increase over the next several days.

Web streaming of the Perseid is on-line at:
http://spaceweatherradio.com/

Quoting from their web page here is how they do it now:

The US Air Force Space Surveillance Radar has been shut down, but
we're still recording meteor echoes. How do we do it? Radio engineer
Stan Nelson uses a Yagi antenna in New Mexico to detect 54 MHz TV
signals reflected from meteor trails. When a meteor passes over his
observatory--ping!--there is an echo.

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
Editor, AMSAT Journal





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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:59:42 +0100
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Reception of UKube-1 FUNcube-2 Beacon
Message-ID:
<1407340782.25683.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Many stations, who have their FUNcube Dongle SDR setup to automatically
receive telemetry signals from FUNcube-1, will have noticed that they are
now also seeing the telemetry from the FUNcube-2 sub-system which is flying
on-board the UKube-1 CubeSat. This is part of the commissioning program for
UKube-1 which is presently underway.
http://amsat-uk.org/2014/08/06/reception-of-ukube-1-funcube-2-beacon-on-funcub
e-dongle-sdr/

Also on the AMSAT-UK website

AMSAT to use FundRazr Crowdfunding
http://amsat-uk.org/2014/08/05/amsat-to-use-fundrazr-crowdfunding/

UKHAS Conference Greenwich, London on Saturday, August 16
There is an impressive line-up of radio amateurs giving presentations at
this event. Amateur Radio Exams are also being held at the event
http://amsat-uk.org/2014/08/05/amateur-radio-exams-at-ukhas-conference-greenwi
ch/

Amateur Radio Village at EMF 2014
http://amsat-uk.org/2014/08/05/amateur-radio-village-at-emf-2014/

NASA Announces Next Opportunity for CubeSat Space Missions
http://amsat-uk.org/2014/08/05/nasa-announces-next-opportunity-for-cubesat-spa
ce-missions/

Online Amateur Radio Satellite Predictor
http://amsat-uk.org/2014/08/05/online-amateur-radio-satellite-predictor/

ISEE-3 Presentation Video Now Available
http://amsat-uk.org/2014/08/03/isee-3-presentation-video-now-available/

RF Design Stand at AMSAT-UK Colloquium
http://amsat-uk.org/2014/08/02/rf-design-stand-at-amsat-uk-colloquium/

G3YJO becomes Chair of Surrey Space Centre
http://amsat-uk.org/2014/08/01/g3yjo-becomes-chair-of-surrey-space-centre/


----
Trevor M5AKA
AMSAT-UK
Website http://amsat-uk.org/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/amsatuk
Twitter https://twitter.com/AMSAT_UK
Flickr https://www.flickr.com/groups/amsatuk/
YouTube https://www.youtube.com/user/AMSATUK
----

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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 15:04:01 -0400
From: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Martin Davidoff <mdavidoff42@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion
Message-ID:
<CA+K5gzcPvFDn6SUOT+LaEpSQLWJ-M47O2VZDKDSm_sEVdWn=_Q@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Haha! I am sure you and everyone else is right but I really want the
puppeteer drive in my star ship in a few years!

Bob
 On Aug 5, 2014 1:09 PM, "Martin Davidoff" <mdavidoff42@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Our friends in DL have the perfect word for this: Wunschdenken (wishful
> thinking about an impossibility).
>
> It may be time to start some new scientific/engineering publications --
> The Journal of Premature Publication;
> The Journal of Retractions and Corrections.
>
> k2ubc
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > Non-Newtonian reactionless drives have been a staple in science fiction,
> > and the goal to make space
> > travel truly practical.  Probably the most famous was the "Dean Drive"
> > which was a purely mechanical
> > attempt.  The thrust claimed has always turned out to be some quirk,
> > usually obvious after the fact,
> > in the measurement process. (Recall that the data showing faster than
> > light particles at CERN was
> > traced to a faulty cable connection.)  I have no doubt that will turn out
> > to be the case here as well.
> > Some of the science blogs are already working through some of the
> > possibilities.
> >
> > Of course, I would like nothing better than to be proved wrong.  A
> > constant .05 g acceleration makes
> > the solar system, in point of time, the size the earth was in the 16th
> > century.  (If I remember a late
> > night bull session in graduate school correctly.)
> >
> > 73s,
> >
> > Alan
> > WA4SCA
> >
> >
> > <-----Original Message-----
> > <From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
> > Behalf Of Robert McGwier
> > <Sent: Monday, August 04, 2014 5:55 PM
> > <To: amsat bb
> > <Subject: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion
> > <
> > <I hope they aren't wrong because they clearly don't understand how it
> > <works!!!
> > <
> > <http://ntrs.nasa.gov/search.jsp?R=20140006052
> > <
> > <Bob
> > <N4HY
> > <
> > <
> > <
> > <--
> > <Bob McGwier
> > <Co-Owner and Technical Director, Federated Wireless, LLC
> > <Professor Virginia Tech
> > <Senior Member IEEE, Facebook: N4HYBob, ARS: N4HY
> > <Faculty Advisor Virginia Tech Amateur Radio Assn. (K4KDJ)
> > <_______________________________________________
> > <Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the
> author.
> > <Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > <Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
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> >
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 06 Aug 2014 15:00:22 -0500
From: Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT Mailing List <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, 	Star-Com BB
<starcom-bb@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cross Country SDR Sentry 10
Message-ID: <53E28956.9090505@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

http://www.crosscountrywireless.net/sentry.html

If true, this would provide the first SDR with output on 6 Meters, 2
Meters, 222, 432, and 1.2 GHz. This would be a real game-changer for VHF
weak signal operators, and provide enough drive for most amps. Can't
wait to learn more about this product.


--
--
73,

Les Rayburn, N1LF
121 Mayfair Park
Maylene, AL 35114
EM63nf

6M VUCC #1712
AMSAT #38965
Grid Bandits #222
Southeastern VHF Society
Central States VHF Society Life Member
Six Club #2484

Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light
--



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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 16:52:35 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NO EJECTION MASS Propulsion
Message-ID: <003401cfb1c0$bb8f6d90$32ae48b0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

> ... puppeteer drive in my star ship in a few years

Unfortunately, the Inter-Galactic Traffic in Arms Regulations will
prevent us from talking about this!  ;-)

--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx




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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 17:25:17 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Star-Com BB <starcom-bb@xxxxxxxx.xxx>,	AMSAT Mailing List
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cross Country SDR Sentry 10
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHCFb4L_LGjbZhEAe2dDCM9ZyJVk3e88ebC0D=qWZd1b4w@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Did you look at the Blade RF?

http://nuand.com

With available downconverter and full duplex! It is already a game changer
and being used.

Also, the HackRF is shipping now.

Stefan





On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> http://www.crosscountrywireless.net/sentry.html
>
> If true, this would provide the first SDR with output on 6 Meters, 2
> Meters, 222, 432, and 1.2 GHz. This would be a real game-changer for VHF
> weak signal operators, and provide enough drive for most amps. Can't wait
> to learn more about this product.
>
>
> --
> --
> 73,
>
> Les Rayburn, N1LF
> 121 Mayfair Park
> Maylene, AL 35114
> EM63nf
>
> 6M VUCC #1712
> AMSAT #38965
> Grid Bandits #222
> Southeastern VHF Society
> Central States VHF Society Life Member
> Six Club #2484
>
> Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light
> --
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. Opinions expressed are those of the author.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 20:53:12 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73 tonight at 02:58Z
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOreQuZOEwihr_EyZeGmpFC4LumuCwqBayYnn9gB+BCfyQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Good evening,

I will be on AO-73 tonight at around 02:58Z, calling CQ at around
145.965 MHz. These passes usually don't have much, if any, activity
and I'd like to drum up a bit more.

The satellite will enter sunlight at 03:05:45, giving about 7 minutes
of transponder time here in Washington, DC. I will be operating off a
south facing balcony, so I will probably lose the satellite about 30
seconds before the transponder shuts off.

Tips for working AO-73:

-Do not use computer control, the transponder frequencies are not
stable and this will only result in frustration. Besides, manual
Doppler control is much more fun than letting the computer do all the
work!

-I usually start a pass by trying to find myself come into the top
edge of the passband (145.970 MHz). To do this, I usually start
transmitting around 435.130 MHz and tuning up slowly until I can hear
myself enter the passband. Then I can move around the transponder
easily. Remember to tune your uplink to maintain an constant downlink
frequency (the opposite of FO-29).

-Keep power output down. The transponder has a very sensitive receiver
and a very active AGC circuit. Excessive uplink power will not make
your signal louder - it will only reduce that available for others on
the transponder. With a clear view of the horizon, 5 watts to an Arrow
or Elk is plenty for horizon to horizon coverage. Very slightly more
might be necessary if you are beaming through trees or other
obstructions, but try to keep power to 25-40 watts ERP.

Hope to hear you on this evening!

73,

Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Washington, DC


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 6 Aug 2014 23:14:34 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-73 tonight at 02:58Z
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOqd5ojTAKOAuPVivqdy3-DuBtBa-1usBvYKbHf9NkMa7g@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Worked W5PFG and CO6CBF on the pass. Satellite sounded great as it
always does. With my Arrow and 2 FT-817s, I was able to locate my
downlink with the satellite at about 1.5 degrees of elevation. My
signal was plenty loud at about 2.5 degrees.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 8:53 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Good evening,
>
> I will be on AO-73 tonight at around 02:58Z, calling CQ at around
> 145.965 MHz. These passes usually don't have much, if any, activity
> and I'd like to drum up a bit more.
>
> The satellite will enter sunlight at 03:05:45, giving about 7 minutes
> of transponder time here in Washington, DC. I will be operating off a
> south facing balcony, so I will probably lose the satellite about 30
> seconds before the transponder shuts off.
>
> Tips for working AO-73:
>
> -Do not use computer control, the transponder frequencies are not
> stable and this will only result in frustration. Besides, manual
> Doppler control is much more fun than letting the computer do all the
> work!
>
> -I usually start a pass by trying to find myself come into the top
> edge of the passband (145.970 MHz). To do this, I usually start
> transmitting around 435.130 MHz and tuning up slowly until I can hear
> myself enter the passband. Then I can move around the transponder
> easily. Remember to tune your uplink to maintain an constant downlink
> frequency (the opposite of FO-29).
>
> -Keep power output down. The transponder has a very sensitive receiver
> and a very active AGC circuit. Excessive uplink power will not make
> your signal louder - it will only reduce that available for others on
> the transponder. With a clear view of the horizon, 5 watts to an Arrow
> or Elk is plenty for horizon to horizon coverage. Very slightly more
> might be necessary if you are beaming through trees or other
> obstructions, but try to keep power to 25-40 watts ERP.
>
> Hope to hear you on this evening!
>
> 73,
>
> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
> Washington, DC


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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 07 Aug 2014 03:49:25 -0500
From: Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Star-Com BB <starcom-bb@xxxxxxxx.xxx>,	AMSAT Mailing List
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cross Country SDR Sentry 10
Message-ID: <53E33D95.6060403@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Stefan,

Yes, I've tracked the Blade RF closely...but I think you've answered
your own question. To use the device on 2 Meters or lower, you need
downconverters...and the output power level is too low to drive most
amps. Basically, it's an engineer's tool, but not well suited for
operators. Ditto for the HackRF.

The Cross Country Sentry promises to drive brick amplifiers without
intermediate stages, and excellent performance on all the amateur VHF
bands due to bandpass filtering. To be a true "game changer", a product
must not only be a technical marvel, but it must be popular in the
marketplace. It remains to be seen if any of these products will reach
that standard, but an inexpensive all-in-one VHF/UHF SDR transceiver
would certainly be in demand.

Time will tell.

73,

Les N1LF



On 8/6/2014 5:25 PM, Stefan Wagener wrote:
> Did you look at the Blade RF?
>
> http://nuand.com
>
> With available downconverter and full duplex! It is already a game
> changer and being used.
>
> Also, the HackRF is shipping now.
>
> Stefan
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Les Rayburn <les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> <mailto:les@xxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
>
>     http://www.crosscountrywireless.net/sentry.html
>
>     If true, this would provide the first SDR with output on 6 Meters,
>     2 Meters, 222, 432, and 1.2 GHz. This would be a real game-changer
>     for VHF weak signal operators, and provide enough drive for most
>     amps. Can't wait to learn more about this product.
>
>
>     --
>     --
>     73,
>
>     Les Rayburn, N1LF
>     121 Mayfair Park
>     Maylene, AL 35114
>     EM63nf
>
>     6M VUCC #1712
>     AMSAT #38965
>     Grid Bandits #222
>     Southeastern VHF Society
>     Central States VHF Society Life Member
>     Six Club #2484
>
>     Active on 6 Meters thru 1296, 10GHz & Light
>     --
>
>     _______________________________________________
>     Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. Opinions
>     expressed are those of the author.
>     Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>     program!
>     Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>



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