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Today's Topics:

   1. Re  FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now
      (David G0MRF)
   2. Re: FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now
      (Dino Papas)
   3. AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room) Finding HF PSK31 ops?
      (Robert Bruninga)
   4. Re: AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room) Finding HF PSK31 ops? (Ted)
   5. ARISS Contact Audio - Thursday (John Spasojevich)
   6. Re: ARISS Contact Audio - Thursday (Stefan Wagener)
   7. Re: Re FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now
      (Chris Thompson)
   8. Re: AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room) Finding HF PSK31 ops?
      (Stefan Wagener)
   9. Re: AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room) (Stefan Wagener)
  10. TLEs for Hawaiian launch (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
  11. Re: TLEs for Hawaiian launch (Jim White)
  12. Re: TLEs for Hawaiian launch (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
  13. Re: FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now (Mvivona)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 18:02:50 -0500
From: David G0MRF <g0mrf@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re  FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day
now
Message-ID: <150cf96ae44-5f08-1a1e6@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


Hi



Yes, 1.01 crashes here every day, probably with the same message.

But to be fair, the only thing it stops doing, is sending data to the
server. Everything else carries on as normal without loss of data.

You appear to be able to shut it down, then restart, after which it sends
all the data to the server in a few seconds.

I can live with that.

73

David  G0MRF


-----Original Message-----
From: Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 22:30
Subject: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now


I've reported this to the wily programmers.

However, I was wondering if
others have their FoxTelem monitoring
program crash ... complaining about Java
??


(Java build 1.8.0_65-b17)

A little annoying now since I leave it
monitoring/decoding and let
SatPC32 track.

I came in both today and
yesterday to the window telling me about the
crash and the program needs
re-start.

I didn't have this problem before the last Java mandatory updates
.Now I
want a link to be able to roll-back the Win7/64 version I have
installed.

--
73,
Bob KD7YZ
www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
AmSat
LM#901
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 17:35:42 -0500
From: Dino Papas <kl0s@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day
now
Message-ID: <E62939E2-1B75-450A-8AA7-F4C0325C28AB@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

As an aside, the FoxTelem program for the Mac requires you to downgrade from
the latest Java to V6 - I?d love to work use the app but don?t want to have
to replace the latest Java with a lesser less secure version.  I know it?s
an issue with OS X and am sure the authors would prefer it wasn?t so but w/o
some kind of workaround I?m reluctant to mess with it.

Dino KL0S

> On Nov032015, at 1730 PM, Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>
> I've reported this to the wily programmers.
>
> However, I was wondering if others have their FoxTelem monitoring
> program crash ... complaining about Java ??
>
>
> (Java build 1.8.0_65-b17)
>
> A little annoying now since I leave it monitoring/decoding and let
> SatPC32 track.
>
> I came in both today and yesterday to the window telling me about the
> crash and the program needs re-start.
>
> I didn't have this problem before the last Java mandatory updates .Now I
> want a link to be able to roll-back the Win7/64 version I have installed.
>
> --
> 73,
> Bob KD7YZ
> www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
> AmSat LM#901


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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 18:52:30 -0500
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room) Finding HF PSK31 ops?
Message-ID: <21c7f0f1f4a6a8309c3c63b4ae5c3bdb@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Is there a good HF reflector for PSK31 people?

Maybe its just that satellite folks do not do HF PSK31 and HF PSK31
operators don't know about sateliltes?

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: prstoetzer@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:prstoetzer@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Paul
Stoetzer
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 5:42 PM
To: Robert Bruninga
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room)

Bob,

It is a shame it's not more popular. I have listened to the downlink and
it's a good signal. My apartment QTH makes it very difficult to set up to
use it, but most hams with a full home satellite station should be able to
use it very easily.

Maybe an award for working several different stations on it would help
increase the popularity?

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> I too have noticed some serious SAT-HOGs having a QSO, which
>> prevented me from making an HT-ARROW portable OP contact.
>
> Take a break from the congestion.... come to the wide open multi-user
> wideband transponder on PSAT-1.  Downlink is good on a handheld arrow
> on
> 435.350 MHz FM.  It should be able to support dozens of simultaneous
> full duplex QSO's in the PSK31 waterfall.
>
> Just pick an empty spot and key your TX solid for the full 8 minutes
> of the pass on your 10 meter PSK31 uplink 28.121 MHz..
>
> To run fullduplex, just run two copies of your favorite PSK31
> software.  One receiving the FM downlink and the other transmitting on
> the SSB uplink. Even better is to run Andy K0SM's TX-only uplink
> client that pre-adjusts for Doppler so everyone can decode you with no
> adjustments.
>
> http://aprs.org/psat.html
>
> Text with everyone all at once.
>
> Bob, WB4aPR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
> official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 16:16:42 -0800
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Robert Bruninga'" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, "'Paul Stoetzer'"
<n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'Matthew King' <mrk.twg@xxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room) Finding HF PSK31
ops?
Message-ID: <002101d11696$1589c170$409d4450$@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Bob, probably the most knowledgeable PSK31 operators on the planet meet
here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/070/

You may have a good idea as this bunch is always looking for a new
event/challenge. (the Club has endorsement stickers that we get for
competing in special events. With no big investment in new gear, working
PSAT would likely be a doable deal. Suggest you join the reflector and make
a post. Since this is all new to them, start at the basics.

(if you have problems joining the Yahoo Group, I'll see if I can get you on
with a 'special guest appearance'..pls let me know) (or contact Matt King
direct. I have cc'd him here)

73, Ted

(Matt, pls contact me if any questions. Bob has a novel idea for an 070
event)

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Robert
Bruninga
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 3:53 PM
To: Paul Stoetzer
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room) Finding HF PSK31 ops?

Is there a good HF reflector for PSK31 people?

Maybe its just that satellite folks do not do HF PSK31 and HF PSK31
operators don't know about sateliltes?

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: prstoetzer@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:prstoetzer@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Paul
Stoetzer
Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 5:42 PM
To: Robert Bruninga
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room)

Bob,

It is a shame it's not more popular. I have listened to the downlink and
it's a good signal. My apartment QTH makes it very difficult to set up to
use it, but most hams with a full home satellite station should be able to
use it very easily.

Maybe an award for working several different stations on it would help
increase the popularity?

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> I too have noticed some serious SAT-HOGs having a QSO, which
>> prevented me from making an HT-ARROW portable OP contact.
>
> Take a break from the congestion.... come to the wide open multi-user
> wideband transponder on PSAT-1.  Downlink is good on a handheld arrow
> on
> 435.350 MHz FM.  It should be able to support dozens of simultaneous
> full duplex QSO's in the PSK31 waterfall.
>
> Just pick an empty spot and key your TX solid for the full 8 minutes
> of the pass on your 10 meter PSK31 uplink 28.121 MHz..
>
> To run fullduplex, just run two copies of your favorite PSK31
> software.  One receiving the FM downlink and the other transmitting on
> the SSB uplink. Even better is to run Andy K0SM's TX-only uplink
> client that pre-adjusts for Doppler so everyone can decode you with no
> adjustments.
>
> http://aprs.org/psat.html
>
> Text with everyone all at once.
>
> Bob, WB4aPR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
> official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



------------------------------

Message: 5
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 20:39:16 -0600
From: John Spasojevich <johnag9d@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARISS Contact Audio - Thursday
Message-ID:
<CA+qbou5A+ywvokferc7AuCPXkK9qGtAB9Bmsk-n=+6fZnjXz1A@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Please join us in listening to the ISS contact with participants at

*Dragonskolan, Ume?, Sweden* on Thursday November 5th. AOS is anticipated
at 10:35 UTC

The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The
contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and VK6MJ in Australia. The
contact is expected to be conducted in English.

Audio from this contact will be fed into the:

EchoLink *AMSAT* (101377)

IRLP Node 9010 Discovery Reflector

Streaming Audio at: https://sites.google.com/site/arissaudio/

Audio on Echolink & web stream is generally transmitted around 20 minutes
prior to the contact taking place so that you can hear some of the
preparation that occurs. IRLP will begin just prior to the ground station
call to the ISS.

** Contact times are approximate. If the ISS executes a reboost or other
manoeuvre, the AOS (Acquisition Of Signal) time may alter by a few minutes
**

73,

John-AG9D

ARISS Audio Distribution Team


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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 20:43:53 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: John Spasojevich <johnag9d@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARISS Contact Audio - Thursday
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHBxLGE-CBqo4EVjZOn-ktfejRd0p+tLGBrH1ts49PjjgA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Thanks John!

Awesome job your are doing! Very much appreciated.

Stefan, VE4NSA

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 8:39 PM, John Spasojevich <johnag9d@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Please join us in listening to the ISS contact with participants at
>
> *Dragonskolan, Ume?, Sweden* on Thursday November 5th. AOS is anticipated
> at 10:35 UTC
>
> The duration of the contact is approximately 9 minutes and 30 seconds. The
> contact will be a telebridge between NA1SS and VK6MJ in Australia. The
> contact is expected to be conducted in English.
>
> Audio from this contact will be fed into the:
>
> EchoLink *AMSAT* (101377)
>
> IRLP Node 9010 Discovery Reflector
>
> Streaming Audio at: https://sites.google.com/site/arissaudio/
>
> Audio on Echolink & web stream is generally transmitted around 20 minutes
> prior to the contact taking place so that you can hear some of the
> preparation that occurs. IRLP will begin just prior to the ground station
> call to the ISS.
>
> ** Contact times are approximate. If the ISS executes a reboost or other
> manoeuvre, the AOS (Acquisition Of Signal) time may alter by a few minutes
> **
>
> 73,
>
> John-AG9D
>
> ARISS Audio Distribution Team
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 7
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 21:49:50 -0500
From: Chris Thompson <g0kla@xxxx.xxx>
To: David G0MRF <g0mrf@xxx.xxx>
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every
day now
Message-ID:
<CAJOf0+vDQ-nOUp4r4hEFq7nN=SsiwngfK7OuMYC5M+WQEj88tg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Yes, the crash is know and is fixed in the version that is being tested by
the AMSAT test team.  We hope to release it very shortly.  Real life and
work seems to keep getting in the way :)

73
Chris

On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 6:02 PM, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> wrote:

>
> Hi
>
>
>
> Yes, 1.01 crashes here every day, probably with the same message.
>
> But to be fair, the only thing it stops doing, is sending data to the
> server. Everything else carries on as normal without loss of data.
>
> You appear to be able to shut it down, then restart, after which it sends
> all the data to the server in a few seconds.
>
> I can live with that.
>
> 73
>
> David  G0MRF
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
> To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 22:30
> Subject: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now
>
>
> I've reported this to the wily programmers.
>
> However, I was wondering if
> others have their FoxTelem monitoring
> program crash ... complaining about Java
> ??
>
>
> (Java build 1.8.0_65-b17)
>
> A little annoying now since I leave it
> monitoring/decoding and let
> SatPC32 track.
>
> I came in both today and
> yesterday to the window telling me about the
> crash and the program needs
> re-start.
>
> I didn't have this problem before the last Java mandatory updates
> .Now I
> want a link to be able to roll-back the Win7/64 version I have
> installed.
>
> --
> 73,
> Bob KD7YZ
> www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
> AmSat
> LM#901
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via
> AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested
> persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions expressed
> are solely
> those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an
> AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> Subscription settings:
> http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>



--
Chris E. Thompson
chrisethompson@xxxxx.xxx
g0kla@xxxx.xxx


------------------------------

Message: 8
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 21:22:22 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Ted <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>, Matthew King <mrk.twg@xxxxx.xxx>,
AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room) Finding HF PSK31
ops?
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHAdCUcK=bua2jiaQ_OQaPn5nNKuHm3ecBpkcHE4uL25ng@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Well,

That group certainly means business :-)

*"The request you sent us is to join the PODXS070 ClubLog group.  All
members must first be a PODXS 070 club members.  Please check our website,
PODXS070.com, and select the "Join Us" heading.  That will show you what is
required to join the PODXS 070 Club.  Please read carefully and fill out
the the membership application.  We require an adif copy of your log with
at least 50 unique psk31 qso's and  a copy of a qsl card you received from
working a psk31 station, or a match to at least 1 current PODXS 070
member.  We would really like to have you as a member, so please seriously
consider filling out the application. "*






On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Ted <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Bob, probably the most knowledgeable PSK31 operators on the planet meet
> here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/070/
>
> You may have a good idea as this bunch is always looking for a new
> event/challenge. (the Club has endorsement stickers that we get for
> competing in special events. With no big investment in new gear, working
> PSAT would likely be a doable deal. Suggest you join the reflector and make
> a post. Since this is all new to them, start at the basics.
>
> (if you have problems joining the Yahoo Group, I'll see if I can get you on
> with a 'special guest appearance'..pls let me know) (or contact Matt King
> direct. I have cc'd him here)
>
> 73, Ted
>
> (Matt, pls contact me if any questions. Bob has a novel idea for an 070
> event)
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Robert
> Bruninga
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 3:53 PM
> To: Paul Stoetzer
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room) Finding HF PSK31 ops?
>
> Is there a good HF reflector for PSK31 people?
>
> Maybe its just that satellite folks do not do HF PSK31 and HF PSK31
> operators don't know about sateliltes?
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: prstoetzer@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:prstoetzer@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Paul
> Stoetzer
> Sent: Tuesday, November 03, 2015 5:42 PM
> To: Robert Bruninga
> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room)
>
> Bob,
>
> It is a shame it's not more popular. I have listened to the downlink and
> it's a good signal. My apartment QTH makes it very difficult to set up to
> use it, but most hams with a full home satellite station should be able to
> use it very easily.
>
> Maybe an award for working several different stations on it would help
> increase the popularity?
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >> I too have noticed some serious SAT-HOGs having a QSO, which
> >> prevented me from making an HT-ARROW portable OP contact.
> >
> > Take a break from the congestion.... come to the wide open multi-user
> > wideband transponder on PSAT-1.  Downlink is good on a handheld arrow
> > on
> > 435.350 MHz FM.  It should be able to support dozens of simultaneous
> > full duplex QSO's in the PSK31 waterfall.
> >
> > Just pick an empty spot and key your TX solid for the full 8 minutes
> > of the pass on your 10 meter PSK31 uplink 28.121 MHz..
> >
> > To run fullduplex, just run two copies of your favorite PSK31
> > software.  One receiving the FM downlink and the other transmitting on
> > the SSB uplink. Even better is to run Andy K0SM's TX-only uplink
> > client that pre-adjusts for Doppler so everyone can decode you with no
> > adjustments.
> >
> > http://aprs.org/psat.html
> >
> > Text with everyone all at once.
> >
> > Bob, WB4aPR
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
> > official views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


------------------------------

Message: 9
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 21:43:01 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room)
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHCeoWxrkjVanBYpWmBPrOqjiW75W1UX=gZ5r4NW5+hwVw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I like to see the 10m uplink "arrow" approach :-)

While PSAT-1 is a nice "proof of concept for PSK-31" in reality it does
nothing for the portable operator and that is what the original post is all
about. Bad behaviour is not solved by switching to different satellites and
different modes, it is solved by  education, courtesy and the "gentle"
reminder.

Using PSK31 is a great idea, the 10m uplink is the real issue for the
non-use of PSAT-1. Should I say "fatal flaw"? Not many of us have a 10m
dipole ready as part of our satellite setup (stationary or mobile for that
matter). It is time that we move on and promote digital modes on
frequencies that are actually used within the allocated satellite bands and
even better on higher bands where we have allocations and we don't use
them. How about a PSK-31 Cubesat within VHF/UHF? That is a nice mobile
challenge combining portable TX ability with a tablet :-) and some new
apps. Let's think outside of the box for a while... and leave 10m on the
ground where it belongs LOL :-)

Food for thought,

Stefan, VE4NSA





On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

> > I too have noticed some serious SAT-HOGs having a QSO,
> > which prevented me from making an HT-ARROW portable OP contact.
>
> Take a break from the congestion.... come to the wide open multi-user
> wideband transponder on PSAT-1.  Downlink is good on a handheld arrow on
> 435.350 MHz FM.  It should be able to support dozens of simultaneous full
> duplex QSO's in the PSK31 waterfall.
>
> Just pick an empty spot and key your TX solid for the full 8 minutes of the
> pass on your 10 meter PSK31 uplink 28.121 MHz..
>
> To run fullduplex, just run two copies of your favorite PSK31 software.
> One
> receiving the FM downlink and the other transmitting on the SSB uplink.
> Even
> better is to run Andy K0SM's TX-only uplink client that pre-adjusts for
> Doppler so everyone can decode you with no adjustments.
>
> http://aprs.org/psat.html
>
> Text with everyone all at once.
>
> Bob, WB4aPR
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 23:38:02 -0500
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] TLEs for Hawaiian launch
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Are there any updated TLEs for the launch that just happened in Hawaii?

Dave-KB1PVH

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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 21:38:49 -0700
From: Jim White <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] TLEs for Hawaiian launch
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The launch failed.

On 11/3/2015 9:38 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
> Are there any updated TLEs for the launch that just happened in Hawaii?
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 23:40:29 -0500
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] TLEs for Hawaiian launch
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Bummer!

I didn't have a chance to watch or check status.

Dave-KB1PVH

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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 23:58:44 -0500
From: Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Dino Papas <kl0s@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day
now
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My FoxTelem program never crashes, however it never decodes anything either.
I can have a perfect overhead pass and using my FCD+ it sometimes will
actually get an eye but never decode anything. The find satellite or Doppler
lock is pretty much worthless here. The same setup on AO73 gets solid
Doppler locks and decodes packets all the way across the sky. I am always
bewildered to hear other users saying they are getting 45 packets or so from
AO85. All the rocket science should be out of the way and this part should
be pretty straight forward.

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Nov 3, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Dino Papas <kl0s@xxx.xxx> wrote:

As an aside, the FoxTelem program for the Mac requires you to downgrade from
the latest Java to V6 - I?d love to work use the app but don?t want to have
to replace the latest Java with a lesser less secure version.  I know it?s
an issue with OS X and am sure the authors would prefer it wasn?t so but w/o
some kind of workaround I?m reluctant to mess with it.

Dino KL0S

> On Nov032015, at 1730 PM, Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>
> I've reported this to the wily programmers.
>
> However, I was wondering if others have their FoxTelem monitoring
> program crash ... complaining about Java ??
>
>
> (Java build 1.8.0_65-b17)
>
> A little annoying now since I leave it monitoring/decoding and let
> SatPC32 track.
>
> I came in both today and yesterday to the window telling me about the
> crash and the program needs re-start.
>
> I didn't have this problem before the last Java mandatory updates .Now I
> want a link to be able to roll-back the Win7/64 version I have installed.
>
> --
> 73,
> Bob KD7YZ
> www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
> AmSat LM#901
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