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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: TLEs for Hawaiian launch (B J)
   2. Hawaiian launch failure (Mineo Wakita)
   3. Re: FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now
      (Kevin Schuchmann)
   4. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2015-11-04 07:00	UTC
      (AJ9N@xxx.xxxx
   5. Re: FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now (Bob KD7YZ)
   6. FS M2 LEO PACK (Peter Budnik)
   7. AO-85 last evening (jeffory broughton)
   8. Re: AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room) (Pedro Sousa)
   9. Re: FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now
      (Carlos Picoto)
  10. Re: AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room) (Joe)
  11. Re: AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room) (Daniel Est?vez)
  12. WD9EWK @ Tucson Hamfest (Marana AZ), 7 November 2015
      (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
  13. Re: FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now (Mvivona)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 05:06:06 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Jim White <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] TLEs for Hawaiian launch
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On 11/4/15, Jim White <jim@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> The launch failed.
>

<snip>

Here are some details:

http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2015/11/super-strypi-spark-inaugural-launch/
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2015/11/03/super-strypi-launch-hawaii-fails/

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 15:16:21 +0900
From: "Mineo Wakita" <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hawaiian launch failure
Message-ID: <7A67883C95464A7F92102B7E9DD49996@xxxxxx>
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Launched at 03:45 UTC, Nov 4, 2015
But the mission has failed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QsMegDZ_VFQ
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/51104hwi.png
http://spaceflightnow.com/2015/11/03/ors-4-mission-status-center/

JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 22:20:52 -0800
From: Kevin Schuchmann <WA6FWF@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day
now
Message-ID: <5639A3C4.6000202@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

Michael,
    Right now foxtelem doesn't get the same performance as some other
programs, what you can do is download and install SDR# , then you will
need vbcable (virtual audio cable) , let SDR# drive the dongle sending
its audio to Vbcable and then set foxtelem to listen to the audio from
vbcable, also make sure SDR# and foxtelem are both set to the same audio
sampling i.e. 48000. On a good pass I get over a hundred decodes this
way.  If you go this route and have questions concerning setup just ask.
73 Kevin WA6FWF

On 11/3/2015 8:58 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> My FoxTelem program never crashes, however it never decodes anything
either. I can have a perfect overhead pass and using my FCD+ it sometimes
will actually get an eye but never decode anything. The find satellite or
Doppler lock is pretty much worthless here. The same setup on AO73 gets
solid Doppler locks and decodes packets all the way across the sky. I am
always bewildered to hear other users saying they are getting 45 packets or
so from AO85. All the rocket science should be out of the way and this part
should be pretty straight forward.
>
> Michael Vivona
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 3, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Dino Papas <kl0s@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> As an aside, the FoxTelem program for the Mac requires you to downgrade
from the latest Java to V6 - I?d love to work use the app but don?t want to
have to replace the latest Java with a lesser less secure version.  I know
it?s an issue with OS X and am sure the authors would prefer it wasn?t so
but w/o some kind of workaround I?m reluctant to mess with it.
>
> Dino KL0S
>
>> On Nov032015, at 1730 PM, Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>>
>> I've reported this to the wily programmers.
>>
>> However, I was wondering if others have their FoxTelem monitoring
>> program crash ... complaining about Java ??
>>
>>
>> (Java build 1.8.0_65-b17)
>>
>> A little annoying now since I leave it monitoring/decoding and let
>> SatPC32 track.
>>
>> I came in both today and yesterday to the window telling me about the
>> crash and the program needs re-start.
>>
>> I didn't have this problem before the last Java mandatory updates .Now I
>> want a link to be able to roll-back the Win7/64 version I have installed.
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Bob KD7YZ
>> www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
>> AmSat LM#901
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 01:58:21 -0500
From: AJ9N@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2015-11-04
07:00	UTC
Message-ID: <1da0ff.5f277e49.436b068d@xxx.xxx>
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2015-11-04  07:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Special request contact:  ITU World Radio  Communication Conference 2015
WRC-15, Geneva, Switzerland, direct via 4U1WRC  (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS (***)
The  scheduled astronauts are Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS, Kimiya Yui KG5BPH, and
a  Cosmonaut (if possible) (***)
Contact was successful for: 2015-11-03 11:47  UTC 60 deg (***)
Congratulations to the ITU conference attendees!  (***)

Eleanor Palmer School, London, United Kingdom, telebridge via  VK6MJ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1S
The scheduled  astronaut is Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS
Contact is a go for: Wed 2015-11-04  09:51:39 UTC 44 deg

Dragonskolan, Ume?, Sweden, telebridge via  VK6MJ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled  astronaut is Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS
Contact is a go for: Thu 2015-11-05  10:35:17 UTC 28 deg

BORG Monsbergergasse, Graz, Austria, direct via  OE?ARISS
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The  scheduled astronaut is Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS
Contact is a go for: Mon  2015-11-09 09:42:15 UTC 49 deg

Ste. Genevieve du Bois Catholic  Elementary School, Warson Woods, Missouri,
direct via N?BKA
The ISS callsign  is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Kjell Lindgren  KO5MOS
The contact is a go for: Thu 2015-11-12 16:25:16 UTC 55  deg

****************************************************************************
**

Interested  in hosting an ARISS contact?  The window is now open from
2015-09-01 to  2015-11-01. These proposals will be for school contacts
during the
second half  of 2016.  Go to http://www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact
or  http://www.ariss.org/apply-to-host-an-ariss-contact.html for full
details.

To help organizations in preparing their proposals, the  ARISS Program
Coordinator will offer hour-long online information sessions.  These are
designed to provide more information regarding US ARISS contacts and  the
proposal
process and offer an opportunity to ask questions. While attending  an
online information session is not required, it is strongly  encouraged.
These will be offered Thursday, September 17, at 2000 UTC;  Tuesday,
September 22, at 2000 UTC, and Wednesday, September 30, at 2300 UTC.  Advance
registration is necessary.  Email ARISS (ariss@xxxx.xxxx to sign up  for an
information  session.

****************************************************************************
**
>From  2015-12-20 to 2016-01-04, there will be no US Operational Segment
(USOS)
hams  on board ISS.  So any schools contacts during this period will be
conducted  by the ARISS Russia  team.

****************************************************************************
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to  send
your reports to aj9n@xxxxx.xxx or aj9n@xxx.xxx.

****************************************************************************
Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.


http://www.ariss-eu.org/

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100

schools:

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Francesco IK?WGF with  114
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with  112

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are
additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed
time.
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8061 date
and
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2015-11-04 07:00 UTC.
(***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1005.
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 970.
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46.

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont,
Wyoming,  American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin
Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2015-10-30 05:00  UTC.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  43/44 on orbit
Scott Kelly
Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF

Exp. 44 on  orbit
Oleg Kononenko RN3DX
Kimiya Yui KG5BPH
Kjell Lindgren  KO5MOS

Exp. 45 on orbit
Sergey Volkov  RU3DIS

****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors




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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 04:52:07 -0500
From: Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day
now
Message-ID: <5639D547.8040609@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252


I was mainly interested in seeing if anyone else had JAVA installation
issues. I can't complain about how the FoxTelem program itself works as
mine decodes often down to 1 or 2 degrees elevation. Mine is mostly an
un-attended setup here as I am often not around to monitor the stuff.

Having read some examples via direct emails to me, I see that even if
the Java program caused the FoxTelem halt, any data previously collected
and as yet unreported, was in fact sent at next program start.

As yet I haven't figured out how to roll-back Java. That was what I
previously asked anyway.

In fact, is it Java or wht seems to be called, also,  the "JRE" ...
seemingly a seperate install.



--
73,
Bob KD7YZ
www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
AmSat LM#901


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 07:04:21 -0500
From: "Peter Budnik" <kb1hy2@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FS M2 LEO PACK
Message-ID: <7EE35DBB28F34713BB50E3F0FF5D74C5@xxxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

For Sale the M2 LEO SATELLITE Pack - Includes the 2MCP8A 2 Meter antenna and
the 436CP16 70cm antenna and mounting boom. These antennas are like new and
have been only up a few months. The antennas are together but can be taken
apart for shipping. Have original shipping carton,manuals and lots of spare
hardware and element clips. Can all so be picked up locally or can meet 50
miles or so miles to deliver.I do have pictures of them up if needed.Great
antennas made many contacts on SO50 and FO29. Price is $400.00 + shipping or
meet for delivery. 73 Peter,KB1HY 860-713-8820

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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 08:39:22 -0500
From: jeffory broughton <jefforybroughton@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 last evening
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I heard ,full quieting ,at AOS, Wyatt AC0RA identify at .4 degrees.He heard
my Reply at .5 Degrees both with crystal clear audio.We were both using 20
watts.Amazing!

jeff broughton


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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 23:09:25 -0100
From: Pedro Sousa <pedro@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room)
Message-ID: <56394CB5.2060501@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Hi,

Over my location it's quiet most of the time, despite I can hear it.
It had two passes today at a good angle. On one of them I aimed at it
the same setup I have for SO-50 and LilacSat-2 but no luck. On the
second one I used the omni and 50W when at a lower angle, still no luck.
Applied possible frequency corrections based on reports from around the
world, between 435.160 to 435.185. Zip, nothing.
Guess we still didn't get to know it well around here.

73 Pedro CU2ZG
HM77FR

On 03/11/2015 21:53, Peter Goodhall wrote:
> I think an award might be a good idea Paul, It's certainly a quiet
> satellite when its over Europe, I've called via it a number of times and
> never managed to actually work someone :-(
>
> Peter, 2E0SQL
>
> On 3 November 2015 at 22:41, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Bob,
>>
>> It is a shame it's not more popular. I have listened to the downlink
>> and it's a good signal. My apartment QTH makes it very difficult to
>> set up to use it, but most hams with a full home satellite station
>> should be able to use it very easily.
>>
>> Maybe an award for working several different stations on it would help
>> increase the popularity?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 5:27 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>> I too have noticed some serious SAT-HOGs having a QSO,
>>>> which prevented me from making an HT-ARROW portable OP contact.
>>> Take a break from the congestion.... come to the wide open multi-user
>>> wideband transponder on PSAT-1.  Downlink is good on a handheld arrow on
>>> 435.350 MHz FM.  It should be able to support dozens of simultaneous full
>>> duplex QSO's in the PSK31 waterfall.
>>>
>>> Just pick an empty spot and key your TX solid for the full 8 minutes of
>> the
>>> pass on your 10 meter PSK31 uplink 28.121 MHz..
>>>
>>> To run fullduplex, just run two copies of your favorite PSK31 software.
>> One
>>> receiving the FM downlink and the other transmitting on the SSB uplink.
>> Even
>>> better is to run Andy K0SM's TX-only uplink client that pre-adjusts for
>>> Doppler so everyone can decode you with no adjustments.
>>>
>>> http://aprs.org/psat.html
>>>
>>> Text with everyone all at once.
>>>
>>> Bob, WB4aPR
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 3 Nov 2015 21:40:16 -0800
From: Carlos Picoto <cpicoto@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Dino Papas
<kl0s@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day
now
Message-ID: <BLU402-EASDF26CC86082303F4D40FE0DA22A0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Michael, I had the same issue using FoxTelem with Funcube directly. Instead
I have HDSDR RF recording from Funcube and feed the recordings to FoxTelem 
afterwards.

Carlos (AD7NP)
Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Mvivona via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 8:58 PM
To: Dino Papas
Cc: AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now


My FoxTelem program never crashes, however it never decodes anything either.
I can have a perfect overhead pass and using my FCD+ it sometimes will
actually get an eye but never decode anything. The find satellite or Doppler
lock is pretty much worthless here. The same setup on AO73 gets solid
Doppler locks and decodes packets all the way across the sky. I am always
bewildered to hear other users saying they are getting 45 packets or so from
AO85. All the rocket science should be out of the way and this part should
be pretty straight forward.

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Nov 3, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Dino Papas <kl0s@xxx.xxx> wrote:

As an aside, the FoxTelem program for the Mac requires you to downgrade from
the latest Java to V6 - I?d love to work use the app but don?t want to have
to replace the latest Java with a lesser less secure version.? I know it?s
an issue with OS X and am sure the authors would prefer it wasn?t so but w/o
some kind of workaround I?m reluctant to mess with it.

Dino KL0S

> On Nov032015, at 1730 PM, Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>
> I've reported this to the wily programmers.
>
> However, I was wondering if others have their FoxTelem monitoring
> program crash ... complaining about Java ??
>
>
> (Java build 1.8.0_65-b17)
>
> A little annoying now since I leave it monitoring/decoding and let
> SatPC32 track.
>
> I came in both today and yesterday to the window telling me about the
> crash and the program needs re-start.
>
> I didn't have this problem before the last Java mandatory updates .Now I
> want a link to be able to roll-back the Win7/64 version I have installed.
>
> --
> 73,
> Bob KD7YZ
> www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
> AmSat LM#901
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 08:19:17 -0600
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room)
Message-ID: <563A13E5.9040707@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Wow!
As a Old schooler, I'm quite the opposite! I was extremely happy when I
saw the 10 meter use. I was on every mode "A" bird, LOVED those birds,
and even the Russian mode "K"  I think it was? 10/15 meters.

NO-84 is a bird that almost 90% of hams have capability of. No special
high priced all mode VHF/UHF rigs.
A cheap 100 buck like radio shack 10 meter rig and a scanner and youre
on this bird. it's awesome. And unlike the single channel FM CB birds,
you don't have the CB channel effect. Instead of one conversation at a
time there can be dozens!

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 11/3/2015 9:43 PM, Stefan Wagener wrote:
> I like to see the 10m uplink "arrow" approach :-)
>
> While PSAT-1 is a nice "proof of concept for PSK-31" in reality it does
> nothing for the portable operator and that is what the original post is all
> about. Bad behaviour is not solved by switching to different satellites and
> different modes, it is solved by  education, courtesy and the "gentle"
> reminder.
>
> Using PSK31 is a great idea, the 10m uplink is the real issue for the
> non-use of PSAT-1. Should I say "fatal flaw"? Not many of us have a 10m
> dipole ready as part of our satellite setup (stationary or mobile for that
> matter). It is time that we move on and promote digital modes on
> frequencies that are actually used within the allocated satellite bands and
> even better on higher bands where we have allocations and we don't use
> them. How about a PSK-31 Cubesat within VHF/UHF? That is a nice mobile
> challenge combining portable TX ability with a tablet :-) and some new
> apps. Let's think outside of the box for a while... and leave 10m on the
> ground where it belongs LOL :-)
>
> Food for thought,
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>>> I too have noticed some serious SAT-HOGs having a QSO,
>>> which prevented me from making an HT-ARROW portable OP contact.
>> Take a break from the congestion.... come to the wide open multi-user
>> wideband transponder on PSAT-1.  Downlink is good on a handheld arrow on
>> 435.350 MHz FM.  It should be able to support dozens of simultaneous full
>> duplex QSO's in the PSK31 waterfall.
>>
>> Just pick an empty spot and key your TX solid for the full 8 minutes of the
>> pass on your 10 meter PSK31 uplink 28.121 MHz..
>>
>> To run fullduplex, just run two copies of your favorite PSK31 software.
>> One
>> receiving the FM downlink and the other transmitting on the SSB uplink.
>> Even
>> better is to run Andy K0SM's TX-only uplink client that pre-adjusts for
>> Doppler so everyone can decode you with no adjustments.
>>
>> http://aprs.org/psat.html
>>
>> Text with everyone all at once.
>>
>> Bob, WB4aPR
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 14:57:52 +0000
From: Daniel Est?vez <daniel@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room)
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El 04/11/15 a las 14:19, Joe escribi?:
> Wow!
> As a Old schooler, I'm quite the opposite! I was extremely happy when I
> saw the 10 meter use. I was on every mode "A" bird, LOVED those birds,
> and even the Russian mode "K"  I think it was? 10/15 meters.
>
> NO-84 is a bird that almost 90% of hams have capability of. No special
> high priced all mode VHF/UHF rigs.
> A cheap 100 buck like radio shack 10 meter rig and a scanner and youre
> on this bird. it's awesome. And unlike the single channel FM CB birds,
> you don't have the CB channel effect. Instead of one conversation at a
> time there can be dozens!

Unfortunately, NO-84 it's not terribly easy to hear, requiring some
rotator setup, circular omni with preamp or hand-pointed arrow. With a
hand-pointed arrow it's very easy to hear, but it's almost impossible to
work it in this manner. This is what's keeping me from being QRV in this
bird. I can be in my garden pointing the arrow or in the shack with the
10m station and PSK computer, but not on both.

However, for operators already having a fixed station capable of
receiving UHF satellites, it is easy to add the capability to transmit
on 10m, so perhaps more publicity is needed.

73,

Dani M0HXM/EA4GPZ.



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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 09:28:12 -0700
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ Tucson Hamfest (Marana AZ), 7 November
2015
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Hi!

I will have an AMSAT table at the Tucson Hamfest on Saturday, 7 November
2015, in Marana AZ. The hamfest is at the Marana Middle School, along the
eastbound I-10 frontage road at Grier Road, southeast of I-10 exit 236.
The hamfest is in grid DM42jk, approximately 25 miles/40km northwest of
downtown Tucson. More information about the hamfest is available at:

http://www.tucsonhamradio.com/tucson-hamfest/221-tucson-hamfest-2015

During the hamfest, WD9EWK will be on the air for demonstrations of amateur
satellite operating. Please call WD9EWK if you hear me on any passes, and
be a part of the demonstrations.

After the hamfest, all QSOs will be uploaded to Logbook of the World. If
you would like to receive a QSL card for QSOs made with WD9EWK at this
hamfest, please e-mail me directly with the QSO details. If you are in my
log, I will be happy to send you a QSL card. There is no need to first send
me a QSL card or SASE to get my card.

73!




Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx


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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:38:30 -0500
From: Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Carlos Picoto <cpicoto@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day
now
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So, it sounds like a true hands off ground station using FoxTelem is not a
reality at this point?
It would be great if it performed like the Funcube Dashboard program.
If I leave the FoxTelem program in Track Doppler mode, then the cursor
wanders way off frequency and finds some rf noise and locks itself there.
When AO85 comes up the cursor never tracks back. Maybe a limit window like
Funcube dashboard has might help?

Also, the signal from AO85 only makes a tiny bump on the visual spectrum
scope. The signal I get from AO73 is a huge spike on the spectrum. Maybe
being single sideband helps AO73 reception?

Michael - KC4ZVA
Sent from my iPad

On Nov 4, 2015, at 12:40 AM, Carlos Picoto <cpicoto@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

Michael, I had the same issue using FoxTelem with Funcube directly. Instead
I have HDSDR RF recording from Funcube and feed the recordings to FoxTelem 
afterwards.

Carlos (AD7NP)
Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: Mvivona via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 8:58 PM
To: Dino Papas
Cc: AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now


My FoxTelem program never crashes, however it never decodes anything either.
I can have a perfect overhead pass and using my FCD+ it sometimes will
actually get an eye but never decode anything. The find satellite or Doppler
lock is pretty much worthless here. The same setup on AO73 gets solid
Doppler locks and decodes packets all the way across the sky. I am always
bewildered to hear other users saying they are getting 45 packets or so from
AO85. All the rocket science should be out of the way and this part should
be pretty straight forward.

Michael Vivona
Sent from my iPad

On Nov 3, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Dino Papas <kl0s@xxx.xxx> wrote:

As an aside, the FoxTelem program for the Mac requires you to downgrade from
the latest Java to V6 - I?d love to work use the app but don?t want to have
to replace the latest Java with a lesser less secure version.  I know it?s
an issue with OS X and am sure the authors would prefer it wasn?t so but w/o
some kind of workaround I?m reluctant to mess with it.

Dino KL0S

> On Nov032015, at 1730 PM, Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>
> I've reported this to the wily programmers.
>
> However, I was wondering if others have their FoxTelem monitoring
> program crash ... complaining about Java ??
>
>
> (Java build 1.8.0_65-b17)
>
> A little annoying now since I leave it monitoring/decoding and let
> SatPC32 track.
>
> I came in both today and yesterday to the window telling me about the
> crash and the program needs re-start.
>
> I didn't have this problem before the last Java mandatory updates .Now I
> want a link to be able to roll-back the Win7/64 version I have installed.
>
> --
> 73,
> Bob KD7YZ
> www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
> AmSat LM#901
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