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Today's Topics:
1. Re: FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now
(Paul Stoetzer)
2. Re: FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now (Bob KD7YZ)
3. Re: FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now
(Jerry Buxton)
4. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2015-11-04 23:30 UTC
(AJ9N@xxx.xxxx
5. Fox-1 decoder (Tom Worthington)
6. 2015 AMSAT-NA Symposium Proceedings (Bruce)
7. Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (Steve Kristoff)
8. Re: Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (Stefan Wagener)
9. Re: 2015 AMSAT-NA Symposium Proceedings (Daniel Kekez)
10. Re: Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (Wouter Weggelaar)
11. Re: Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (skristof@xxxxxxx.xxxx
12. Re: Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (Stefan Wagener)
13. Re: Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (Joe)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 12:51:16 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Mvivona <Mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Mvivona via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day
now
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Michael,
I've had the same experience of FoxTelem not getting much of a signal
at all from the FCD. I'll not hear anything or see any signal and then
switch to HDSDR and hear a booming signal. Yet, I know that it is
working for some. I know, for example, that AC0RA is using an FCD
direct to FoxTelem and has submitted 2,703 frames.
It must be some setting, somewhere...
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Mvivona via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> So, it sounds like a true hands off ground station using FoxTelem is not a
reality at this point?
> It would be great if it performed like the Funcube Dashboard program.
> If I leave the FoxTelem program in Track Doppler mode, then the cursor
wanders way off frequency and finds some rf noise and locks itself there.
When AO85 comes up the cursor never tracks back. Maybe a limit window like
Funcube dashboard has might help?
>
> Also, the signal from AO85 only makes a tiny bump on the visual spectrum
scope. The signal I get from AO73 is a huge spike on the spectrum. Maybe
being single sideband helps AO73 reception?
>
> Michael - KC4ZVA
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 4, 2015, at 12:40 AM, Carlos Picoto <cpicoto@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Michael, I had the same issue using FoxTelem with Funcube directly.
Instead I have HDSDR RF recording from Funcube and feed the recordings to
FoxTelem afterwards.
>
> Carlos (AD7NP)
> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>
>
>
> From: Mvivona via AMSAT-BB
> Sent: Tuesday, November 3, 2015 8:58 PM
> To: Dino Papas
> Cc: AMSAT-BB
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now
>
>
> My FoxTelem program never crashes, however it never decodes anything
either. I can have a perfect overhead pass and using my FCD+ it sometimes
will actually get an eye but never decode anything. The find satellite or
Doppler lock is pretty much worthless here. The same setup on AO73 gets
solid Doppler locks and decodes packets all the way across the sky. I am
always bewildered to hear other users saying they are getting 45 packets or
so from AO85. All the rocket science should be out of the way and this part
should be pretty straight forward.
>
> Michael Vivona
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Nov 3, 2015, at 5:35 PM, Dino Papas <kl0s@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> As an aside, the FoxTelem program for the Mac requires you to downgrade
from the latest Java to V6 - I?d love to work use the app but don?t want to
have to replace the latest Java with a lesser less secure version. I know
it?s an issue with OS X and am sure the authors would prefer it wasn?t so
but w/o some kind of workaround I?m reluctant to mess with it.
>
> Dino KL0S
>
>> On Nov032015, at 1730 PM, Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>>
>> I've reported this to the wily programmers.
>>
>> However, I was wondering if others have their FoxTelem monitoring
>> program crash ... complaining about Java ??
>>
>>
>> (Java build 1.8.0_65-b17)
>>
>> A little annoying now since I leave it monitoring/decoding and let
>> SatPC32 track.
>>
>> I came in both today and yesterday to the window telling me about the
>> crash and the program needs re-start.
>>
>> I didn't have this problem before the last Java mandatory updates .Now I
>> want a link to be able to roll-back the Win7/64 version I have installed.
>>
>> --
>> 73,
>> Bob KD7YZ
>> www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
>> AmSat LM#901
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 15:55:52 -0500
From: Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day
now
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On 04-Nov-15 1251, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
. I know, for example, that AC0RA is using an FCD
> direct to FoxTelem and has submitted 2,703 frames.
I too am FCDP+ straight to the 2m antenna
As for FoxTelem not being totally hands-off. (A) the "Implementors"
are/will fix that with the soon-here next release.
(B) they also told me, or all of us, that irrespective of the Java
crash, data collection goes on; data is stored; next re-start of PGM,
the data is uploaded.
So I ain't no more gonna worry 'bout it.
--
73,
Bob KD7YZ
www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
AmSat LM#901
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 18:48:34 -0600
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day
now
Message-ID: <563AA762.6060101@xxxxx.xxx>
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A work in progress, one thing for consideration is that Chris also has
to work with me to provide versions that do Fox-1Cliff/D for our testing
of those as well as providing us the way to reliably get data to and
mine data from the server as we check out AO-85, so his time is
divided. The plus to that is that we are expecting releases before
1Cliff/D that will provide automatic slow/high speed data switching and
better performance as you all provide feedback to help him learn what
needs tweaking. Testing FoxTelem on the ground with a satellite 3 feet
away or using a recording isn't the real deal of course, so just like
with the performance of Fox-1A AO-85 on orbit there are things to be
learned about real world performance of FoxTelem.
Remember - it's a hobby. :-)
Thank you for your support.
Jerry Buxton, N?JY
On 11/4/2015 14:55, Bob KD7YZ wrote:
> On 04-Nov-15 1251, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> . I know, for example, that AC0RA is using an FCD
>> direct to FoxTelem and has submitted 2,703 frames.
> I too am FCDP+ straight to the 2m antenna
>
> As for FoxTelem not being totally hands-off. (A) the "Implementors"
> are/will fix that with the soon-here next release.
>
> (B) they also told me, or all of us, that irrespective of the Java
> crash, data collection goes on; data is stored; next re-start of PGM,
> the data is uploaded.
>
> So I ain't no more gonna worry 'bout it.
>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 20:02:10 -0500
From: AJ9N@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2015-11-04
23:30 UTC
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2015-11-04 23:30 UTC
Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
Eleanor Palmer School, London, United Kingdom, telebridge via VK6MJ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS
Contact was successful: Wed 2015-11-04 09:51:39 UTC 44 deg (***)
Dragonskolan, Ume?, Sweden, telebridge via VK6MJ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS
Contact is a go for: Thu 2015-11-05 10:35:17 UTC 28 deg
BORG Monsbergergasse, Graz, Austria, direct via OE?ARISS
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS
Contact is a go for: Mon 2015-11-09 09:42:15 UTC 49 deg
Ste. Genevieve du Bois Catholic Elementary School, Warson Woods, Missouri,
direct via N?KBA (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS
The contact is a go for: Thu 2015-11-12 16:25:16 UTC 55 deg
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**
>From 2015-12-20 to 2016-01-04, there will be no US Operational Segment
(USOS)
hams on board ISS. So any schools contacts during this period will be
conducted by the ARISS Russia team.
****************************************************************************
ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@xxxxx.xxx or aj9n@xxx.xxx.
****************************************************************************
Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. That has now been changed to
http://www.ariss.org/
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
****************************************************************************
Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete
details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.
http://www.ariss-eu.org/
If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:
Gaston ON4WF with 121
Francesco IK?WGF with 114
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 112
****************************************************************************
The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date
webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are
additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.
Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date
and
time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2015-11-04 23:30 UTC.
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1006. (***)
Each school counts as 1 event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 971. (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46.
A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas, Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont,
Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin
Islands.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
QSL information may be found at:
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html
ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS
****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2015-11-04 23:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf
Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf
Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts
https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp. 43/44 on orbit
Scott Kelly
Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF
Exp. 44 on orbit
Oleg Kononenko RN3DX
Kimiya Yui KG5BPH
Kjell Lindgren KO5MOS
Exp. 45 on orbit
Sergey Volkov RU3DIS
****************************************************************************
73,
Charlie Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 15:26:39 -1000
From: Tom Worthington <worth@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fox-1 decoder
Message-ID: <563AB04F.1080103@xxxx.xxx>
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It does not crash for me. Running under Windows 10.
But is only seems to record about half the packets I decode.
73 and Aloha de NH6Y
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 20:15:03 -0600
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 2015 AMSAT-NA Symposium Proceedings
Message-ID: <563ABBA7.1000309@xxxx.xxx>
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We have the 2015 AMSAT-NA Symposium Proceedings, all 436 pages,
available at the AMSAT online store. Unfortunately, due to the weight of
this very large proceeding, it can only be mailed in the United States.
There is a limited supply and once they are gone, they are gone.
Here is a direct link to the page in the store.
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=135
73...bruce
--
Bruce Paige, KK5DO
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Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 21:45:02 -0500
From: "Steve Kristoff" <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter
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Please consider backing this Kickstarter project. It's an open source APRS
tracker for weather balloons. I have no stake in the project other than a
pledge and I'd really like to see the project go.
Check it out:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1250163085/tracksoar-aprs/posts/1397521?r
ef=backer_project_update
Steve Kristoff AI9IN
skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 4 Nov 2015 21:24:19 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter
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Thanks!
Yes, supported it already. It is a great project especially for schools and
groups. Please support it and make it happen :-)
Stefan, VE4NSA
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Please consider backing this Kickstarter project. It's an open source APRS
> tracker for weather balloons. I have no stake in the project other than a
> pledge and I'd really like to see the project go.
> Check it out:
>
>
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1250163085/tracksoar-aprs/posts/1397521?r
ef=backer_project_update
>
> Steve Kristoff AI9IN
>
> skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
>
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 03:48:54 +0000
From: Daniel Kekez <va3kkz@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 2015 AMSAT-NA Symposium Proceedings
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On 11/05/2015 02:15, Bruce wrote:
> We have the 2015 AMSAT-NA Symposium Proceedings, all 436 pages,
> available at the AMSAT online store. Unfortunately, due to the weight of
> this very large proceeding, it can only be mailed in the United States.
> There is a limited supply and once they are gone, they are gone.
Are there any plans to sell an electronic (PDF) version that could be
purchased by people who live outside the USA?
Thanks and 73,
-Daniel, VA3KKZ
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 13:32:50 +0100
From: Wouter Weggelaar <wouterweg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Steve Kristoff
<skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter
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Can someone tell me why this needs 22000 dollars when most of this project
is already available?
What am I missing here? I can for the life of me not see why this would
take this huge amount of money.
Wouter PA3WEG
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:24 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> Yes, supported it already. It is a great project especially for schools and
> groups. Please support it and make it happen :-)
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Please consider backing this Kickstarter project. It's an open source
> APRS
> > tracker for weather balloons. I have no stake in the project other than a
> > pledge and I'd really like to see the project go.
> > Check it out:
> >
> >
>
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1250163085/tracksoar-aprs/posts/1397521?r
ef=backer_project_update
> >
> > Steve Kristoff AI9IN
> >
> > skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
> >
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 05 Nov 2015 08:54:48 -0500
From: skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: Wouter Weggelaar <wouterweg@xxxxx.xxx>, Stefan Wagener
<wageners@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Steve Kristoff
<skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter
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I don't think that $22,000 dollars is that much money for a start up
company/project. If they want to produce these things in large
quantities then they will need to invest in equipment or hire someone to
do that for them.
I'm sure that the hardware is already available if you want to build one
of these on your own. But I'm not that smart. I'd need to spend a year
learning more stuff about computers and APRS protocol before I could
even think about putting one of these things together.
This will also be good for science teachers (like me) and radio clubs
that want to help science teachers introduce students to technology
without a lot of hassle and expense.
This seems like a worthwhile project to me.
Steve AI9IN
On 2015-11-05 07:32, Wouter Weggelaar wrote:
> Can someone tell me why this needs 22000 dollars when most of this project
> is already available?
> What am I missing here? I can for the life of me not see why this would
> take this huge amount of money.
>
> Wouter PA3WEG
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:24 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Thanks! Yes, supported it already. It is a great project especially for
schools and groups. Please support it and make it happen :-) Stefan, VE4NSA
On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Please consider backing this Kickstarter project. It's an open source APRS
tracker for weather balloons. I have no stake in the project other than a
pledge and I'd really like to see the project go. Check it out:
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1250163085/tracksoar-aprs/posts/1397521?r
ef=backer_project_update [1] Steve Kristoff AI9IN skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 08:06:11 -0600
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Steve Kristoff
<skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>, Wouter Weggelaar <wouterweg@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter
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Agree,
He also wants to have the boards populated automatically to get away from
hand-soldering all the SMDs. Yes, the board layout and files are available
for free (open source) on his website including the source code (open
source) for the Arduino he is using. Actually very transparent operation
and yes, a simple email to Mike about his project will result in a very
quick response back.
73, Stefan, VE4NSA
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 7:54 AM, <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I don't think that $22,000 dollars is that much money for a start up
> company/project. If they want to produce these things in large quantities
> then they will need to invest in equipment or hire someone to do that for
> them.
>
> I'm sure that the hardware is already available if you want to build one
> of these on your own. But I'm not that smart. I'd need to spend a year
> learning more stuff about computers and APRS protocol before I could even
> think about putting one of these things together.
>
> This will also be good for science teachers (like me) and radio clubs that
> want to help science teachers introduce students to technology without a
> lot of hassle and expense.
>
> This seems like a worthwhile project to me.
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
>
>
>
> On 2015-11-05 07:32, Wouter Weggelaar wrote:
>
> Can someone tell me why this needs 22000 dollars when most of this project
> is already available?
> What am I missing here? I can for the life of me not see why this would
> take this huge amount of money.
>
> Wouter PA3WEG
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 4:24 AM, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Thanks! Yes, supported it already. It is a great project especially for
> schools and groups. Please support it and make it happen :-) Stefan, VE4NSA
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
> Please consider backing this Kickstarter project. It's an open source
>
> APRS
>
> tracker for weather balloons. I have no stake in the project other than a
> pledge and I'd really like to see the project go. Check it out:
>
>
>
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1250163085/tracksoar-aprs/posts/1397521?r
ef=backer_project_update
>
> Steve Kristoff AI9IN skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 2015 08:24:08 -0600
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
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Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter
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I just wish he gave more details.
especially estimated price when ready. at least.
Power?
Freq agility etc.
Joe WB9SBD
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On 11/4/2015 9:24 PM, Stefan Wagener wrote:
> Thanks!
>
> Yes, supported it already. It is a great project especially for schools and
> groups. Please support it and make it happen :-)
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
> On Wed, Nov 4, 2015 at 8:45 PM, Steve Kristoff <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Please consider backing this Kickstarter project. It's an open source APRS
>> tracker for weather balloons. I have no stake in the project other than a
>> pledge and I'd really like to see the project go.
>> Check it out:
>>
>>
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1250163085/tracksoar-aprs/posts/1397521?r
ef=backer_project_update
>>
>> Steve Kristoff AI9IN
>>
>> skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
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