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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AO 85 operations (Kevin Schuchmann)
2. Re: AO 85 operations (Mike)
3. Re: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 10, Issue 338 (Miguel Angel Baldonado)
4. QB50 project 2016 (Mineo Wakita)
5. PSK31 on PSAT-1 (was elbow room) (Robert Bruninga)
6. Re: AO 85 operations (Skyler F)
7. Re: PSK31 on PSAT-1 (was elbow room) (David G0MRF)
8. dumbest questions in the world (KG4BYN - Ben Harold)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 15:02:24 -0800
From: Kevin Schuchmann <WA6FWF@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations
Message-ID: <563D3180.2090402@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Dude you really are a troll, you sent the message below to the BB faking
that you have second thoughts about what you said and then turn around
and send a totally different private message to me slamming people again
and then you disagree with what I said and chastise me to not blast
things over the BB in the future.
I for one am done with you.
Kevin WA6FWF
On 11/6/2015 2:31 PM, mvivona@xxxxx.xxx wrote:
>
> You are so right Kevin, now I feel terrible.
> Michael
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
> *From:* Kevin Schuchmann <WA6FWF@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> *To:* amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> *Sent:* Friday, November 6, 2015 5:05 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations
>
> You Know Michael for a guy that was complaining about not being able to
> receive AO-85 telem a few days ago and considering all the help you got
> from people your reply to James was pretty crappy. When you were having
> troubles you could have gone out to Google also and actually done some
> work on your own and found there is more than one way to capture telem.
>
> It would have been fine to say the info is easily found on Google and
> let it drop, but your flippant attitude makes me less likely to help a
> troll like you in the future.
>
> Kevin WA6FWF
>
>
>
>
> On 11/6/2015 1:17 PM, mvivona--- via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> > James,
> > There is a brand new tool on-line. It's called "Google". I know,
> it's a funny name that probably won't every make it.
> > All you do it type in what you are looking for a magically answers
> from all over the world pop up. Wow...
> > Here is what Google showed me for "AO-85 Frequencies".
> >
>
http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FoxOperatingGuide_Ma
y2015_Hi.pdf
> Try it out sometime, it's lots of fun.
> > Michael KC4AVA
> >
> >
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 18:09:33 -0500
From: Mike <mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Kevin Schuchmann <WA6FWF@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations
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Kevin,
This forum is not a place to vent. Please show restraint with your comments.
Thank you.
Michael
Sent from my iPhone
> On Nov 6, 2015, at 6:02 PM, Kevin Schuchmann <WA6FWF@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Dude you really are a troll, you sent the message below to the BB faking
that you have second thoughts about what you said and then turn around and
send a totally different private message to me slamming people again and
then you disagree with what I said and chastise me to not blast things
over the BB in the future.
>
> I for one am done with you.
>
> Kevin WA6FWF
>
>
>
>> On 11/6/2015 2:31 PM, mvivona@xxxxx.xxx wrote:
>>
>> You are so right Kevin, now I feel terrible.
>> Michael
>>
>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> *From:* Kevin Schuchmann <WA6FWF@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>> *To:* amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> *Sent:* Friday, November 6, 2015 5:05 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations
>>
>> You Know Michael for a guy that was complaining about not being able to
>> receive AO-85 telem a few days ago and considering all the help you got
>> from people your reply to James was pretty crappy. When you were having
>> troubles you could have gone out to Google also and actually done some
>> work on your own and found there is more than one way to capture telem.
>>
>> It would have been fine to say the info is easily found on Google and
>> let it drop, but your flippant attitude makes me less likely to help a
>> troll like you in the future.
>>
>> Kevin WA6FWF
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 11/6/2015 1:17 PM, mvivona--- via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> > James,
>> > There is a brand new tool on-line. It's called "Google". I know, it's a
funny name that probably won't every make it.
>> > All you do it type in what you are looking for a magically answers from
all over the world pop up. Wow...
>> > Here is what Google showed me for "AO-85 Frequencies".
>> >
http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FoxOperatingGuide_Ma
y2015_Hi.pdf Try it out sometime, it's lots of fun.
>> > Michael KC4AVA
>> >
>> >
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 23:09:50 +0000
From: Miguel Angel Baldonado <lu3emb@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 10, Issue 338
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Hello! I agree with Luciano, PY5LF......AO-85 is much more friendly with us!
Greetings from GF05
MikeLU3EMB
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Today's Topics:
1. AO85 Pass (PY5LF)
2. AO-85 FM UV Voice mode received over Bangkok, Thailand
(Karn Suwanrat)
3. Re: Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (skristof@xxxxxxx.xxxx
4. Re: FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day now
(Robert McGwier)
5. Re: Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (Proper Path)
(Robert Bruninga)
6. Re: Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (Proper Path)
(skristof@xxxxxxx.xxxx
7. M2 LEO PACK - FREE SHIPPING CONUS or BEST OFFER (Peter Budnik)
8. Re: AO85 vs SO-50 (GW1FKY@xxx.xxxx
9. AO 85 operations (James Brown)
10. Re: AO 85 operations (mvivona@xxxxx.xxxx
11. Re: AO 85 operations (R.T.Liddy)
12. Re: AO 85 operations (Kevin Schuchmann)
13. Ao-73/FUNcube mode change (Jim Heck G3WGM)
14. Re: AO 85 operations (mvivona@xxxxx.xxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:41:46 -0200
From: "PY5LF" <py5lf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>, <starcom-bb@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO85 Pass
Message-ID: <005301d118a9$a65282e0$f2f788a0$@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Hi
AO85 are very nice to work now ,much more stable.
https://youtu.be/I03TQpguEic
73
PY5LF
Luciano Fabricio
Curitiba-PR-BR GG54jm
http://www.qrz.com/db/PY5LF
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 23:19:35 +0700
From: Karn Suwanrat <e20zfd@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 FM UV Voice mode received over Bangkok,
Thailand
Message-ID:
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kMHiHmINIeE
I could receive a FM Phone Mode for only a few second toward the end
of the pass. So I don't know who was calling.
Fox-1A (AO-85) Mode FM (U/V Transponder)
Freq. 145.980 MHz
Date 2015 NOV 6
Time 1523-1538UTC
Max El 72
Rx By E20ZFD
Grid OK03gs
73'
Karn
E20ZFD/AA1AF
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 11:23:09 -0500
From: skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter
Message-ID: <174f353930ba5d91bf3f16e2d30369c3@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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If I get one of these things, I would like to do it right and not screw
up the network. What is a suggested addressing protocol for an APRS
balloon? I assume it's posted somewhere, but a quick search of the
internet didn't turn up anything obvious to a newbie like me.
If these things get popular maybe a set of standards could be posted on
the AMSAT and APRS websites.
Steve AI9IN
On 2015-11-06 10:36, Joe wrote:
> with all the new computer capabilities, couldn't a ummm filter or
something be made, that if it is a -11 signal. then regardless of what is
being sent for hops it is ignored? if above "X" feet?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com [1]
> On 11/6/2015 9:19 AM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> It looks like it is time to restructure the entire APRS system Hams do a
good job of self policing when they know the requirements and proper
procedures. APRS hasn't failed in over 22 years. The purpose of this thread
is to simply remind people that balloons should use the recommended path for
balloons that can cover a million square miles, and not the same path they
use for their car locally. Bob, WB4APR -----Original Message----- From:
AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Thomas Doyle
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter It looks like
it is time to restructure the entire APRS system. Any network that can be
brought down by non-compliant clients has a big problem and should be
restructured. Trying to police the entire world to make sure no one violates
a protocol for a large scale open access network is sure to fail. 73 W9KE
Tom Doyle On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote: The #1
question is what Path this device
will
use. It is an
abomination
>> to fly such a tracker on the APRS network with a beacon rate more often
than once a minute, *OR* with a path via more than 1 hop. If those limits
are not implemented in hardware, these devices could trash the national APRS
frequency. Half the balloons we see go up to not adhere to these APRS
standards because the operators are clueless to the netwrk constraints and
apparently do nothing to research the proper settings.. Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 10:23:39 -0600
From: Robert McGwier <rwmcgwier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FoxTelem Program Java aspect crashes every day
now
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And you all are doing a fabulous job. The only thing I remind my peers of
is that people spend their own money and their valuable free time tapping
their toes gleefully anticipating success and participation. I've been
amongst the , now reformed, guilty. I don't do the answers as I'm too busy,
but I support the need. We need more volunteers who want to support the
engineers in this but must be trusted to help and not hinder.
Having done this stuff for years, let me admonish users to remember that if
you have a critique or question something, please approach it as if the
engineer has already considered it and dealt with it and you'll find a
willing conversationalist. We're all proud of our work and, no, we don't
always get it right. But you can generally assume we've tried really hard
to. Don't come into our house and toss the furniture about. You won't find
us willing hosts to have you at our table.
Respectfully and 73s,
Bob
N4HY
On Wednesday, November 4, 2015, Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> A work in progress, one thing for consideration is that Chris also has
> to work with me to provide versions that do Fox-1Cliff/D for our testing
> of those as well as providing us the way to reliably get data to and
> mine data from the server as we check out AO-85, so his time is
> divided. The plus to that is that we are expecting releases before
> 1Cliff/D that will provide automatic slow/high speed data switching and
> better performance as you all provide feedback to help him learn what
> needs tweaking. Testing FoxTelem on the ground with a satellite 3 feet
> away or using a recording isn't the real deal of course, so just like
> with the performance of Fox-1A AO-85 on orbit there are things to be
> learned about real world performance of FoxTelem.
>
> Remember - it's a hobby. :-)
>
> Thank you for your support.
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
> On 11/4/2015 14:55, Bob KD7YZ wrote:
> > On 04-Nov-15 1251, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> > . I know, for example, that AC0RA is using an FCD
> >> direct to FoxTelem and has submitted 2,703 frames.
> > I too am FCDP+ straight to the 2m antenna
> >
> > As for FoxTelem not being totally hands-off. (A) the "Implementors"
> > are/will fix that with the soon-here next release.
> >
> > (B) they also told me, or all of us, that irrespective of the Java
> > crash, data collection goes on; data is stored; next re-start of PGM,
> > the data is uploaded.
> >
> > So I ain't no more gonna worry 'bout it.
> >
> >
>
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 11:49:22 -0500
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (Proper
Path)
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ARGH! You are right. SOmwhere over the last 22 years, the link and page
BALLOONS.TXT file is gone.
So I just added the path receommendation to the top of our page:
http://aprs.org/balloons.html
-----Original Message-----
> What is a suggested addressing protocol for an APRS balloon?
> a quick search of the internet didn't turn up anything obvious to a
newbie like me.
On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Robert
> Bruninga wrote:
>> The #1 question is what Path this device will use. It is an
abomination
>> to fly such a tracker on the APRS network with a beacon rate more
>> often than once a minute, *OR* with a path via more than 1 hop. If
>> those limits are not implemented in hardware, these devices could
>> trash the national APRS frequency. Half the balloons we see go up to
>> not adhere to these APRS standards because the operators are clueless
>> to the netwrk constraints and apparently do nothing to research the
>> proper settings.. Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 06 Nov 2015 12:50:19 -0500
From: skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Open source APRS tracker Kickstarter (Proper
Path)
Message-ID: <5c2f63ab89d751a1e726b41a1afbd965@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain
Perfect! Thank you very much.
Steve AI9IN
On 2015-11-06 11:49, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> ARGH! You are right. SOmwhere over the last 22 years, the link and page
> BALLOONS.TXT file is gone.
>
> So I just added the path receommendation to the top of our page:
> http://aprs.org/balloons.html [1]
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
>> What is a suggested addressing protocol for an APRS balloon? a quick
search of the internet didn't turn up anything obvious to a
>
> newbie like me.
>
> On Thu, Nov 5, 2015 at 6:00 PM, Robert
> Bruninga wrote: The #1 question is what Path this device will use. It is an
abomination
>> to fly such a tracker on the APRS network with a beacon rate more often
than once a minute, *OR* with a path via more than 1 hop. If those limits
are not implemented in hardware, these devices could trash the national APRS
frequency. Half the balloons we see go up to not adhere to these APRS
standards because the operators are clueless to the netwrk constraints and
apparently do nothing to research the proper settings.. Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 13:33:52 -0500
From: "Peter Budnik" <kb1hy2@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Amsat - BBs" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] M2 LEO PACK - FREE SHIPPING CONUS or BEST OFFER
Message-ID: <DB4F1112E07D492E8702D56AF22573B6@xxxxxxx>
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For Sale the M2 LEO SATELLITE Pack - Includes the 2MCP8A 2 Meter antenna and
the 436CP16 70cm antenna and mounting boom. These antennas are like new and
have been only up a few months. The antennas are together but can be taken
apart for shipping. Have original shipping carton,manuals and lots of spare
hardware and element clips. Can all so be picked up locally or can meet 50
miles or so miles to deliver.I do have pictures of them up if needed.Great
antennas made many contacts on SO50 and FO29. Price is $400.00 shipped or
meet for delivery. 73 Peter,KB1HY 860-713-8820
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:32:04 -0500
From: GW1FKY@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO85 vs SO-50
Message-ID: <1ebc72.2147b3d.436e5a34@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"
Reference the comments on operating AO-85 by Dani ( M0HXM /EA4GPZ ) and the
frequencies that he states that he uses
Dani - Typing error I am sure .- You make reference to 436 Mhz but it
should be 435 Mhz on the uplink.
Regards and good luck.
Ken Eaton
GW1FKY
Amsat -UK
Amsat NA
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 20:51:58 +0000 (UTC)
From: James Brown <jimki6wj@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations
Message-ID:
<1463096959.974232.1446843118709.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I am confused. is AO85 operational for FM? If so, what freqs.? should I
program. I will be in death valley the next 7 days? and want to try it and
so 50.
ThanksJim KI6WJ
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 21:17:32 +0000 (UTC)
From: "mvivona@xxxxx.xxxx <mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
To: James Brown <jimki6wj@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations
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James,
There is a brand new tool on-line. It's called "Google". I know, it's a
funny name that probably won't every make it.
All you do it type in what you are looking for a magically answers from all
over the world pop up. Wow...
Here is what Google showed me for "AO-85 Frequencies".
http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FoxOperatingGuide_Ma
y2015_Hi.pdf?Try it out sometime, it's lots of fun.
?Michael KC4AVA
From: James Brown <jimki6wj@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 3:51 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations
I am confused. is AO85 operational for FM? If so, what freqs.? should I
program. I will be in death valley the next 7 days? and want to try it and
so 50.
ThanksJim KI6WJ
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 21:50:52 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "mvivona@xxxxx.xxxx <mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>, James Brown
<jimki6wj@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations
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Try this link (without the AMSAT-BB syntax error):
http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FoxOperatingGuide_Ma
y2015_Hi.pdf
GL/73, ? ? Bob ?K8BL
From: mvivona--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
To: James Brown <jimki6wj@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>; AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations
James,
There is a brand new tool on-line. It's called "Google". I know, it's a
funny name that probably won't every make it.
All you do it type in what you are looking for a magically answers from all
over the world pop up. Wow...
Here is what Google showed me for "AO-85 Frequencies".
http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FoxOperatingGuide_Ma
y2015_Hi.pdf?Try it out sometime, it's lots of fun.
?Michael KC4AVA
? ? ? From: James Brown <jimki6wj@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 3:51 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations
?
I am confused. is AO85 operational for FM? If so, what freqs.? should I
program. I will be in death valley the next 7 days? and want to try it and
so 50.
ThanksJim KI6WJ
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 14:05:24 -0800
From: Kevin Schuchmann <WA6FWF@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations
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You Know Michael for a guy that was complaining about not being able to
receive AO-85 telem a few days ago and considering all the help you got
from people your reply to James was pretty crappy. When you were having
troubles you could have gone out to Google also and actually done some
work on your own and found there is more than one way to capture telem.
It would have been fine to say the info is easily found on Google and
let it drop, but your flippant attitude makes me less likely to help a
troll like you in the future.
Kevin WA6FWF
On 11/6/2015 1:17 PM, mvivona--- via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> James,
> There is a brand new tool on-line. It's called "Google". I know, it's a
funny name that probably won't every make it.
> All you do it type in what you are looking for a magically answers from
all over the world pop up. Wow...
> Here is what Google showed me for "AO-85 Frequencies".
>
http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FoxOperatingGuide_Ma
y2015_Hi.pdf Try it out sometime, it's lots of fun.
> Michael KC4AVA
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 22:09:35 -0000
From: "Jim Heck G3WGM" <jimlist@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Ao-73/FUNcube mode change
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Hi Fold,
I have just changed AO-73/FUNcube to full time transponder ON mode. As
usual, plan it to revert to auto eclipse mode on Sun pm UTC.
Enjoy
73s Jim G3WGM
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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 22:31:24 +0000 (UTC)
From: "mvivona@xxxxx.xxxx <mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Kevin Schuchmann <WA6FWF@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
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You are so right Kevin, now I feel terrible.
?Michael
From: Kevin Schuchmann <WA6FWF@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Friday, November 6, 2015 5:05 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations
You Know Michael? for a guy that was complaining about not being able to
receive AO-85 telem a few days ago and considering all the help you got
from people your reply to James was pretty crappy. When? you were having
troubles you could have gone out to Google also and actually done some
work on your own and found there is more than one way to capture telem.
It would have been fine to say the info is easily found on Google and
let it drop, but your flippant attitude makes me less likely to help a
troll like you in the future.
Kevin WA6FWF
On 11/6/2015 1:17 PM, mvivona--- via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> James,
> There is a brand new tool on-line. It's called "Google". I know, it's a
funny name that probably won't every make it.
> All you do it type in what you are looking for a magically answers from
all over the world pop up. Wow...
> Here is what Google showed me for "AO-85 Frequencies".
>
http://www.amsat.org/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/FoxOperatingGuide_Ma
y2015_Hi.pdf Try it out sometime, it's lots of fun.
>? Michael KC4AVA
>
>?
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 08:19:39 +0900
From: "Mineo Wakita" <ei7m-wkt@xxxxxxxxx.xx.xx>
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Subject: [amsat-bb] QB50 project 2016
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For the purpose of the demonstration and development of CubeSats of the
technology of
the universities around the world, it is scheduled to be launched all 50
satellites
by Ukraine Tsiklon-4 rocket on February 1, 2016. There are still also
uncertainties,
but I, JE9PEL investigated the current frequencies and summarized it in an
Excel file.
I'm going to issue in the future this revised version.
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/51106qb5.png
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/51106qb5.xls
http://www2.jpl.nasa.gov/calendar/#1602
JE9PEL, Mineo Wakita
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 22:58:01 -0500
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSK31 on PSAT-1 (was elbow room)
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> How about a PSK-31 Cubesat within VHF/UHF?
Because the 6000 Hz and 18,000 Hz of Doppler change on VHF and UHF simply
cannot be done with PSK31 that requires tuning accuracy of +/- 1 Hz. By
using ten meter uplink and FM downlink we eliminate the downlink Doppler
and reduce the nominal Uplink Doppler on ten meters to an average around 1
Hz/sec for the lower portions of most passes. Bob, WB4aPR
> Not many of us have a 10m dipole? as part of our satellite setup
A simple portable fishing pole with an 8? piece of wire on and another 8
foot counterpoise laying on the ground would make a great ten meter
vertical for PSAT-1 PSK31 uplink. (Sorry though, that it takes more than 5
watts due to cramming an HF antenna on a 6? cubesat).
Bob, WB4APR
*Sent:* Tuesday, November 03, 2015 10:43 PM
*Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Rudeness (elbow room)
> I like to see the 10m uplink "arrow" approach :-)
> While PSAT-1 is a nice "proof of concept for PSK-31"
> in reality it does nothing for the portable operator and
> that is what the original post is all about. ?.
> Using PSK31 is a great idea, the 10m uplink is the real issue
> for the non-use of PSAT-1. Should I say "fatal flaw"?
> Not many of us have a 10m dipole ready as part of our satellite setup
> (stationary or mobile for that matter).
> It is time that we move on and promote digital modes on
> frequencies that are actually used within the allocated satellite
> bands and even better on higher bands where we have allocations
> and we don't use them.
> How about a PSK-31 Cubesat within VHF/UHF?
> ... and leave 10m on the ground where it belongs LOL :-)
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On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
Take a break from the congestion.... come to the wide open multi-user
wideband transponder on PSAT-1. Downlink is good on a handheld arrow on
435.350 MHz FM. It should be able to support dozens of simultaneous full
duplex QSO's in the PSK31 waterfall.
Just pick an empty spot and key your TX solid for the full 8 minutes of the
pass on your 10 meter PSK31 uplink 28.121 MHz..
To run fullduplex, just run two copies of your favorite PSK31 software. One
receiving the FM downlink and the other transmitting on the SSB uplink. Even
better is to run Andy K0SM's TX-only uplink client that pre-adjusts for
Doppler so everyone can decode you with no adjustments.
http://aprs.org/psat.html
Text with everyone all at once.
Bob, WB4aPR
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 22:27:35 -0700
From: Skyler F <electricity440@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO 85 operations
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 05:07:34 -0500
From: David G0MRF <g0mrf@xxx.xxx>
To: bruninga@xxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSK31 on PSAT-1 (was elbow room)
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However,
It would be a great project if we get a 6m allocation from the current WARC
meeting.
Even if it's only an uplink band (to prevent interference from space to
ground) 6m would be usable for PSK. Certainly 2m is now on the point of
saturation and all those Uni CubeSats will need somewhere to go.
73
David
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From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 3:58
Subject: [amsat-bb] PSK31 on PSAT-1 (was elbow room)
> How about a PSK-31 Cubesat within VHF/UHF?
Because the 6000 Hz and 18,000
Hz of Doppler change on VHF and UHF simply
cannot be done with PSK31 that
requires tuning accuracy of +/- 1 Hz. By
using ten meter uplink and FM downlink
we eliminate the downlink Doppler
and reduce the nominal Uplink Doppler on ten
meters to an average around 1
Hz/sec for the lower portions of most passes.
Bob, WB4aPR
> Not many of us have a 10m dipole? as part of our satellite
setup
A simple portable fishing pole with an 8? piece of wire on and another
8
foot counterpoise laying on the ground would make a great ten meter
vertical
for PSAT-1 PSK31 uplink. (Sorry though, that it takes more than 5
watts due to
cramming an HF antenna on a 6? cubesat).
Bob, WB4APR
*Sent:* Tuesday,
November 03, 2015 10:43 PM
*Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Rudeness (elbow
room)
> I like to see the 10m uplink "arrow" approach :-)
> While PSAT-1
is a nice "proof of concept for PSK-31"
> in reality it does nothing for the
portable operator and
> that is what the original post is all about. ?.
>
Using PSK31 is a great idea, the 10m uplink is the real issue
> for the non-use
of PSAT-1. Should I say "fatal flaw"?
> Not many of us have a 10m dipole ready
as part of our satellite setup
> (stationary or mobile for that matter).
>
It is time that we move on and promote digital modes on
> frequencies that are
actually used within the allocated satellite
> bands and even better on higher
bands where we have allocations
> and we don't use them.
> How about a PSK-31
Cubesat within VHF/UHF?
> ... and leave 10m on the ground where it belongs LOL
:-)
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On Tue, Nov 3, 2015 at 4:27 PM, Robert
Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
Take a break from the congestion.... come
to the wide open multi-user
wideband transponder on PSAT-1. Downlink is good on
a handheld arrow on
435.350 MHz FM. It should be able to support dozens of
simultaneous full
duplex QSO's in the PSK31 waterfall.
Just pick an empty spot
and key your TX solid for the full 8 minutes of the
pass on your 10 meter PSK31
uplink 28.121 MHz..
To run fullduplex, just run two copies of your favorite
PSK31 software. One
receiving the FM downlink and the other transmitting on the
SSB uplink. Even
better is to run Andy K0SM's TX-only uplink client that
pre-adjusts for
Doppler so everyone can decode you with no
adjustments.
http://aprs.org/psat.html
Text with everyone all at once.
Bob,
WB4aPR
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Date: Fri, 6 Nov 2015 23:11:03 -0500
From: KG4BYN - Ben Harold <kg4byn@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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Subject: [amsat-bb] dumbest questions in the world
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ok, these are, indeed, the dumbest questions for you folks, because i've
determined you all ARE the experts. i'm a 60+ year old ham. never
worked the birds, but have always been fascinated. yup typical story,
right? our local, somewhat, non-existent radio club had someone (not
from around here) provide a very brief demonstration one saturday
morning in a walmart parking lot - circa 2001. needless to say that was
a LONG time ago. most of my hamming has been cw, with a rare ssb qso.
i got burned out on 2m/70cm, early on (many years ago), howver...i've
got my vhf/gear and antennas updated for some sat work. MY MAJOR
PROBLEM is _/where/_ can i find downlink/uplink freqs for the fm birds
with transponders. to be honest, i'd be darned happy to just to RECEIVE
a cw beacon or even some packet via rig and soundcard. i've weeded
through tons of websites, tons of threads on this bb...and am STILL
having a difficult time finding the info for what i want. i'm a
dinosaur (OLD) and and recovering from extremely severe colon cancer
surgery, BUT i'm looking to broaden my horizons/hobby. also a link to a
DECENT free tracking program with updating pass predictions would be
helpful, too. i have a refurb pc notebook in the shack for this
project. yes, i've heard of google, and yes, i've read darned near
everything i can find...but the more i read, the more confused this old
guys gets. feel free to answer me via private email so as not to
clutter this mailing list...which HAS provided great info, but also,
sadly, adds to my confusion. at least, i've got the doppler effect
problem reasonably figured out. sorry for the long email and stupid
questions. i originally wasn't going to send it, but i figured i gotta
start someplace.
73!
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