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Today's Topics:
1. SatPC32: How to change a K3 to DATA mode for PSAT-1 ? (Bob KD7YZ)
2. Re: dumbest questions in the world (Andrew Glasbrenner)
3. Re: PSK31 on PSAT-1 (was elbow room) (Bob KD7YZ)
4. Re: dumbest questions in the world (Burns Fisher)
5. Re: AO85 vs SO-50 (Daniel Est?vez)
6. Re: PSK31 on PSAT-1 (was elbow room) (David G0MRF)
7. Re: SatPC32: How to change a K3 to DATA mode for PSAT-1 ?
(Robert Bruninga)
8. Re: SatPC32: How to change a K3 to DATA mode for PSAT-1 ?
(Mark L. Hammond)
9. Re: dumbest questions in the world (John Brier)
10. Re: dumbest questions in the world (Burns Fisher)
11. Re: dumbest questions in the world (John Becker)
12. Re: dumbest questions in the world (Zach Leffke)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 07:37:03 -0500
From: Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32: How to change a K3 to DATA mode for
PSAT-1 ?
Message-ID: <563DF06F.1070205@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
I have been trying to lash-up everything for ops on 28.120 (USB) PSK31
Uplink and 435.350 (FM) Downlink for PSAT-1 .
Well, in order for my K# to be keyed by the soundcard SIGNALINK-USB, the
K3 must be in DATA mode ("MD6;" is the K3's command I believe).
I have moderate success telling SatPC32 that the 2nd radio is a Kenwood,
other .
So when SatPC32 reads the Doppler.sqf file, it will change my K3 to CW
or to FM or USB. None of which, if used, will allow MixW or DopplerPSK
to do anything more than "switch" on the SignaLink and also cause the K3
so "switch" to the xmit (red lite on) position. Yet there is, as
expected, no RF output that way, in USB.
So using two different SignaLink's I have the IC910H going to the 435 rx
freq and listening. I have the K3 on another SignaLink, going to 28.120
and switching to xmit when asked.
Just that I need to K3 to automatically go into DATA mode when being
used for PSAT-1, or any other PSK type bird.
When I manually switch the K3, then either MixW or DopplerPSK do, in
fact, switch the K3 to xmit as-well-as output RF .
This is not a very good solution as sometimes SatPC32 re-reads
Doppler.sqf and thus puts K3 back to USB.
Anyone have a solution?
tnx !
--
73,
Bob KD7YZ
www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
AmSat LM#901
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 08:01:14 -0500
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <kg4byn@xxxxxxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] dumbest questions in the world
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It's not perfect and needs some additions and updates, but here is a
resource: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=177
You may also consider the Getting Started book from AMSAT, which can be had
as a free download with AMSAT membership, or purchased in hard copy from the
store at
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=125
73, Drew KO4MA
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of KG4BYN - Ben
Harold
Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 11:11 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] dumbest questions in the world
ok, these are, indeed, the dumbest questions for you folks, because i've
determined you all ARE the experts. i'm a 60+ year old ham. never worked
the birds, but have always been fascinated. yup typical story, right? our
local, somewhat, non-existent radio club had someone (not from around here)
provide a very brief demonstration one saturday morning in a walmart parking
lot - circa 2001. needless to say that was a LONG time ago. most of my
hamming has been cw, with a rare ssb qso.
i got burned out on 2m/70cm, early on (many years ago), howver...i've got my
vhf/gear and antennas updated for some sat work. MY MAJOR PROBLEM is
_/where/_ can i find downlink/uplink freqs for the fm birds with
transponders. to be honest, i'd be darned happy to just to RECEIVE a cw
beacon or even some packet via rig and soundcard. i've weeded through tons
of websites, tons of threads on this bb...and am STILL having a difficult
time finding the info for what i want. i'm a dinosaur (OLD) and and
recovering from extremely severe colon cancer surgery, BUT i'm looking to
broaden my horizons/hobby. also a link to a DECENT free tracking program
with updating pass predictions would be helpful, too. i have a refurb pc
notebook in the shack for this project. yes, i've heard of google, and yes,
i've read darned near everything i can find...but the more i read, the more
confused this old guys gets. feel free to answer me via private email so as
not to clutter this mailing list...which HAS provided great info, but also,
sadly, adds to my confusion. at least, i've got the doppler effect problem
reasonably figured out. sorry for the long email and stupid questions. i
originally wasn't going to send it, but i figured i gotta start someplace.
73!
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 08:32:29 -0500
From: Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSK31 on PSAT-1 (was elbow room)
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On 07-Nov-15 0507, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> It would be a great project if we get a 6m allocation from the
> current WARC meeting. Even if it's only an uplink band (to prevent
> interference from space to ground)\
Hi Dave: when we have strong E-Skip, during the season, would there be a
mirror up there reflecting Sat-Downlink to my antenna which lies below
the E-Skip region?
--
73,
Bob KD7YZ
www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
AmSat LM#901
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 09:14:23 -0500
From: Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx>
To: kg4byn@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] dumbest questions in the world
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As to pass prediction programs, SatPC32 is not free, but like the book
Drew mentioned it comes as a premium with a certain level of AMSAT
membership. It is one of the "gold standard" programs that includes
automated tuning of your rig (if it has computer control) to
compensate for doppler and steering of rotators.
But another truly free resource is at
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/predict/index.php, an on-line
pass prediction tool.
Good luck and 73,
Burns W2BFJ
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> It's not perfect and needs some additions and updates, but here is a
> resource: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=177
>
> You may also consider the Getting Started book from AMSAT, which can be had
> as a free download with AMSAT membership, or purchased in hard copy from the
> store at
> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=125
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of KG4BYN - Ben
> Harold
> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 11:11 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] dumbest questions in the world
>
> ok, these are, indeed, the dumbest questions for you folks, because i've
> determined you all ARE the experts. i'm a 60+ year old ham. never worked
> the birds, but have always been fascinated. yup typical story, right? our
> local, somewhat, non-existent radio club had someone (not from around here)
> provide a very brief demonstration one saturday morning in a walmart parking
> lot - circa 2001. needless to say that was a LONG time ago. most of my
> hamming has been cw, with a rare ssb qso.
> i got burned out on 2m/70cm, early on (many years ago), howver...i've got my
> vhf/gear and antennas updated for some sat work. MY MAJOR PROBLEM is
> _/where/_ can i find downlink/uplink freqs for the fm birds with
> transponders. to be honest, i'd be darned happy to just to RECEIVE a cw
> beacon or even some packet via rig and soundcard. i've weeded through tons
> of websites, tons of threads on this bb...and am STILL having a difficult
> time finding the info for what i want. i'm a dinosaur (OLD) and and
> recovering from extremely severe colon cancer surgery, BUT i'm looking to
> broaden my horizons/hobby. also a link to a DECENT free tracking program
> with updating pass predictions would be helpful, too. i have a refurb pc
> notebook in the shack for this project. yes, i've heard of google, and yes,
> i've read darned near everything i can find...but the more i read, the more
> confused this old guys gets. feel free to answer me via private email so as
> not to clutter this mailing list...which HAS provided great info, but also,
> sadly, adds to my confusion. at least, i've got the doppler effect problem
> reasonably figured out. sorry for the long email and stupid questions. i
> originally wasn't going to send it, but i figured i gotta start someplace.
> 73!
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 14:42:01 +0000
From: Daniel Est?vez <daniel@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO85 vs SO-50
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El 06/11/15 a las 19:32, GW1FKY--- via AMSAT-BB escribi?:
> Reference the comments on operating AO-85 by Dani ( M0HXM /EA4GPZ ) and the
> frequencies that he states that he uses
> Dani - Typing error I am sure .- You make reference to 436 Mhz but it
> should be 435 Mhz on the uplink.
> Regards and good luck.
Sure enough. Either typo or slight brain error on my part (as typing
those from memory). Thanks for spotting it.
73,
Dani M0HXM/EA4GPZ.
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 09:50:14 -0500
From: David G0MRF <g0mrf@xxx.xxx>
To: kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSK31 on PSAT-1 (was elbow room)
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Hi
Very true Bob and certainly not ideal.
Possibly less of a problem than 29MHz?
I'm just trying to imagine where the next piece of satellite 'real estate'
can be found. Most amateur bands are shared and not ideal for satellite comms.
Even the ISS has to operate out of band at 2395 to find a clear channel for
it's Ham Video transmissions.
I suppose the harsh reality is that the CubeSat revolution has seriously
outpaced those who are allocating spectrum.
73
David
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 13:32
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] PSK31 on PSAT-1 (was elbow room)
On 07-Nov-15 0507, David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> It would be a great
project if we get a 6m allocation from the
> current WARC meeting. Even if it's
only an uplink band (to prevent
> interference from space to ground)\
Hi
Dave: when we have strong E-Skip, during the season, would there be a
mirror up
there reflecting Sat-Downlink to my antenna which lies below
the E-Skip
region?
--
73,
Bob KD7YZ
www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
AmSat
LM#901
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 10:01:32 -0500
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Bob Bruninga <wb4apr@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32: How to change a K3 to DATA mode for
PSAT-1 ?
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There is no need for doppler rig control for PSK31 on PSAT. In fact, it
wont work because doppler correction has to be phase coherent and you
cannot do that by rig control.
Better to just run constant frequency around 28.121 MHz.
But the best way is to run Andy's uplink-only program written for PSAT so
that it pre-compensates for doppler at the audio level and also lets you
run full duplex from your regular PSK31 program.
http://aprs.org/psat.html
Bob
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 7:37 AM, Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx> wrote:
> I have been trying to lash-up everything for ops on 28.120 (USB) PSK31
> Uplink and 435.350 (FM) Downlink for PSAT-1 .
>
> Well, in order for my K# to be keyed by the soundcard SIGNALINK-USB, the
> K3 must be in DATA mode ("MD6;" is the K3's command I believe).
>
> I have moderate success telling SatPC32 that the 2nd radio is a Kenwood,
> other .
>
> So when SatPC32 reads the Doppler.sqf file, it will change my K3 to CW
> or to FM or USB. None of which, if used, will allow MixW or DopplerPSK
> to do anything more than "switch" on the SignaLink and also cause the K3
> so "switch" to the xmit (red lite on) position. Yet there is, as
> expected, no RF output that way, in USB.
>
> So using two different SignaLink's I have the IC910H going to the 435 rx
> freq and listening. I have the K3 on another SignaLink, going to 28.120
> and switching to xmit when asked.
>
> Just that I need to K3 to automatically go into DATA mode when being
> used for PSAT-1, or any other PSK type bird.
>
> When I manually switch the K3, then either MixW or DopplerPSK do, in
> fact, switch the K3 to xmit as-well-as output RF .
>
> This is not a very good solution as sometimes SatPC32 re-reads
> Doppler.sqf and thus puts K3 back to USB.
>
> Anyone have a solution?
>
>
>
>
> tnx !
>
> --
> 73,
> Bob KD7YZ
> www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
> AmSat LM#901
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 10:03:52 -0500
From: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32: How to change a K3 to DATA mode for
PSAT-1 ?
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Hi Bob,
I know every little about the K3 (so why comment, right? heh). Are you
using a data jack on the rig? Over the years, I've had to resort to using
a microphone jack to work around similar issues like you describe. Any
chance you can lash up a cable to the microphone jack, and just use USB
mode that SatPC32 sets?
If not, just ignore ;)
73,
Mark N8MH
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I have been trying to lash-up everything for ops on 28.120 (USB) PSK31
Uplink and 435.350 (FM) Downlink for PSAT-1 .
Well, in order for my K# to be keyed by the soundcard SIGNALINK-USB, the
K3 must be in DATA mode ("MD6;" is the K3's command I believe).
I have moderate success telling SatPC32 that the 2nd radio is a Kenwood,
other .
So when SatPC32 reads the Doppler.sqf file, it will change my K3 to CW
or to FM or USB. None of which, if used, will allow MixW or DopplerPSK
to do anything more than "switch" on the SignaLink and also cause the K3
so "switch" to the xmit (red lite on) position. Yet there is, as
expected, no RF output that way, in USB.
So using two different SignaLink's I have the IC910H going to the 435 rx
freq and listening. I have the K3 on another SignaLink, going to 28.120
and switching to xmit when asked.
Just that I need to K3 to automatically go into DATA mode when being
used for PSAT-1, or any other PSK type bird.
When I manually switch the K3, then either MixW or DopplerPSK do, in
fact, switch the K3 to xmit as-well-as output RF .
This is not a very good solution as sometimes SatPC32 re-reads
Doppler.sqf and thus puts K3 back to USB.
Anyone have a solution?
tnx !
--
73,
Bob KD7YZwww.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
AmSat LM#901
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Mark L. Hammond [N8MH]
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 11:51:12 -0500
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] dumbest questions in the world
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Satpc32 seems to require more up front configuration and learning. I gave
up and used Orbitron which seems more simple and is also free. I recommend
it.
On Nov 7, 2015 9:14 AM, "Burns Fisher" <burns@xxxxxx.xx> wrote:
> As to pass prediction programs, SatPC32 is not free, but like the book
> Drew mentioned it comes as a premium with a certain level of AMSAT
> membership. It is one of the "gold standard" programs that includes
> automated tuning of your rig (if it has computer control) to
> compensate for doppler and steering of rotators.
>
> But another truly free resource is at
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/predict/index.php, an on-line
> pass prediction tool.
>
> Good luck and 73,
>
> Burns W2BFJ
>
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner
> <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > It's not perfect and needs some additions and updates, but here is a
> > resource: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=177
> >
> > You may also consider the Getting Started book from AMSAT, which can be
> had
> > as a free download with AMSAT membership, or purchased in hard copy from
> the
> > store at
> > http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=125
> >
> > 73, Drew KO4MA
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of KG4BYN
> - Ben
> > Harold
> > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 11:11 PM
> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] dumbest questions in the world
> >
> > ok, these are, indeed, the dumbest questions for you folks, because i've
> > determined you all ARE the experts. i'm a 60+ year old ham. never worked
> > the birds, but have always been fascinated. yup typical story, right?
> our
> > local, somewhat, non-existent radio club had someone (not from around
> here)
> > provide a very brief demonstration one saturday morning in a walmart
> parking
> > lot - circa 2001. needless to say that was a LONG time ago. most of my
> > hamming has been cw, with a rare ssb qso.
> > i got burned out on 2m/70cm, early on (many years ago), howver...i've
> got my
> > vhf/gear and antennas updated for some sat work. MY MAJOR PROBLEM is
> > _/where/_ can i find downlink/uplink freqs for the fm birds with
> > transponders. to be honest, i'd be darned happy to just to RECEIVE a cw
> > beacon or even some packet via rig and soundcard. i've weeded through
> tons
> > of websites, tons of threads on this bb...and am STILL having a difficult
> > time finding the info for what i want. i'm a dinosaur (OLD) and and
> > recovering from extremely severe colon cancer surgery, BUT i'm looking to
> > broaden my horizons/hobby. also a link to a DECENT free tracking program
> > with updating pass predictions would be helpful, too. i have a refurb pc
> > notebook in the shack for this project. yes, i've heard of google, and
> yes,
> > i've read darned near everything i can find...but the more i read, the
> more
> > confused this old guys gets. feel free to answer me via private email
> so as
> > not to clutter this mailing list...which HAS provided great info, but
> also,
> > sadly, adds to my confusion. at least, i've got the doppler effect
> problem
> > reasonably figured out. sorry for the long email and stupid questions.
> i
> > originally wasn't going to send it, but i figured i gotta start
> someplace.
> > 73!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ---
> > This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software.
> > https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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> to all
> > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> > views of AMSAT-NA.
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Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 12:20:29 -0500
From: Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] dumbest questions in the world
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Sure, there are lots of choices. Thanks for pointing out Orbitron.
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 11:51 AM, John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Satpc32 seems to require more up front configuration and learning. I gave up
> and used Orbitron which seems more simple and is also free. I recommend it.
>
> On Nov 7, 2015 9:14 AM, "Burns Fisher" <burns@xxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>>
>> As to pass prediction programs, SatPC32 is not free, but like the book
>> Drew mentioned it comes as a premium with a certain level of AMSAT
>> membership. It is one of the "gold standard" programs that includes
>> automated tuning of your rig (if it has computer control) to
>> compensate for doppler and steering of rotators.
>>
>> But another truly free resource is at
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/predict/index.php, an on-line
>> pass prediction tool.
>>
>> Good luck and 73,
>>
>> Burns W2BFJ
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>> <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> > It's not perfect and needs some additions and updates, but here is a
>> > resource: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=177
>> >
>> > You may also consider the Getting Started book from AMSAT, which can be
>> > had
>> > as a free download with AMSAT membership, or purchased in hard copy from
>> > the
>> > store at
>> > http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=125
>> >
>> > 73, Drew KO4MA
>> >
>> > -----Original Message-----
>> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of KG4BYN -
>> > Ben
>> > Harold
>> > Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 11:11 PM
>> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> > Subject: [amsat-bb] dumbest questions in the world
>> >
>> > ok, these are, indeed, the dumbest questions for you folks, because i've
>> > determined you all ARE the experts. i'm a 60+ year old ham. never
>> > worked
>> > the birds, but have always been fascinated. yup typical story, right?
>> > our
>> > local, somewhat, non-existent radio club had someone (not from around
>> > here)
>> > provide a very brief demonstration one saturday morning in a walmart
>> > parking
>> > lot - circa 2001. needless to say that was a LONG time ago. most of my
>> > hamming has been cw, with a rare ssb qso.
>> > i got burned out on 2m/70cm, early on (many years ago), howver...i've
>> > got my
>> > vhf/gear and antennas updated for some sat work. MY MAJOR PROBLEM is
>> > _/where/_ can i find downlink/uplink freqs for the fm birds with
>> > transponders. to be honest, i'd be darned happy to just to RECEIVE a cw
>> > beacon or even some packet via rig and soundcard. i've weeded through
>> > tons
>> > of websites, tons of threads on this bb...and am STILL having a
>> > difficult
>> > time finding the info for what i want. i'm a dinosaur (OLD) and and
>> > recovering from extremely severe colon cancer surgery, BUT i'm looking
>> > to
>> > broaden my horizons/hobby. also a link to a DECENT free tracking
>> > program
>> > with updating pass predictions would be helpful, too. i have a refurb
>> > pc
>> > notebook in the shack for this project. yes, i've heard of google, and
>> > yes,
>> > i've read darned near everything i can find...but the more i read, the
>> > more
>> > confused this old guys gets. feel free to answer me via private email
>> > so as
>> > not to clutter this mailing list...which HAS provided great info, but
>> > also,
>> > sadly, adds to my confusion. at least, i've got the doppler effect
>> > problem
>> > reasonably figured out. sorry for the long email and stupid questions.
>> > i
>> > originally wasn't going to send it, but i figured i gotta start
>> > someplace.
>> > 73!
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 11:08:37 -0600
From: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] dumbest questions in the world
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I did not find the same.
You better stick with things that only have one moving part.
On 11/7/2015 10:51 AM, John Brier wrote:
> Satpc32 seems to require more up front configuration and learning. I gave
> up and used Orbitron which seems more simple and is also free. I recommend
> it.
>
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 12:31:08 -0500
From: Zach Leffke <zleffke@xx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] dumbest questions in the world
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For frequency references I like the link below. It includes FM
transponders, Linear Birds, University 'beepsats' (so that you can pick
up the CW beacons) and so on:
http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/satslist.htm
Another new but good reference is here, a crowd sourced effort to
document all the birds in the Amateur Spectrum in one spot:
https://db.satnogs.org/
Its not free ($5.00) but I like having the laminated Frequency Guide
from AMSAT handy. It lists all the active voice birds (SSB/FM) on a
nice single laminated sheet front/back.
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?products_id=73
I second the vote for Orbitron if you are a Windows user. It does have
the ability to control your rotators and rig directly, but you have to
download another program for that called a DDE client. I used wispdde
for a while.
orbitron: http://www.stoff.pl/
wispdde: http://www.mederoscnc.com/CX6DD/wispdde/wispdde.htm
If you are a Linux user, 'predict' is a good command line tool, and
'gpredict' is a good graphical version. Both can be found in the
repositories and installed using the following command in a terminal
(assuming a Debian flavored distribution):
sudo apt-get install predict
sudo apt-get install gpredict
Good Luck!
73s,
Zach, KJ4QLP
On 11/7/2015 11:51 AM, John Brier wrote:
> Satpc32 seems to require more up front configuration and learning. I gave
> up and used Orbitron which seems more simple and is also free. I recommend
> it.
> On Nov 7, 2015 9:14 AM, "Burns Fisher" <burns@xxxxxx.xx> wrote:
>
>> As to pass prediction programs, SatPC32 is not free, but like the book
>> Drew mentioned it comes as a premium with a certain level of AMSAT
>> membership. It is one of the "gold standard" programs that includes
>> automated tuning of your rig (if it has computer control) to
>> compensate for doppler and steering of rotators.
>>
>> But another truly free resource is at
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/predict/index.php, an on-line
>> pass prediction tool.
>>
>> Good luck and 73,
>>
>> Burns W2BFJ
>>
>> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 8:01 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner
>> <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> It's not perfect and needs some additions and updates, but here is a
>>> resource: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=177
>>>
>>> You may also consider the Getting Started book from AMSAT, which can be
>> had
>>> as a free download with AMSAT membership, or purchased in hard copy from
>> the
>>> store at
>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=33&products_id=125
>>>
>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of KG4BYN
>> - Ben
>>> Harold
>>> Sent: Friday, November 06, 2015 11:11 PM
>>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] dumbest questions in the world
>>>
>>> ok, these are, indeed, the dumbest questions for you folks, because i've
>>> determined you all ARE the experts. i'm a 60+ year old ham. never worked
>>> the birds, but have always been fascinated. yup typical story, right?
>> our
>>> local, somewhat, non-existent radio club had someone (not from around
>> here)
>>> provide a very brief demonstration one saturday morning in a walmart
>> parking
>>> lot - circa 2001. needless to say that was a LONG time ago. most of my
>>> hamming has been cw, with a rare ssb qso.
>>> i got burned out on 2m/70cm, early on (many years ago), howver...i've
>> got my
>>> vhf/gear and antennas updated for some sat work. MY MAJOR PROBLEM is
>>> _/where/_ can i find downlink/uplink freqs for the fm birds with
>>> transponders. to be honest, i'd be darned happy to just to RECEIVE a cw
>>> beacon or even some packet via rig and soundcard. i've weeded through
>> tons
>>> of websites, tons of threads on this bb...and am STILL having a difficult
>>> time finding the info for what i want. i'm a dinosaur (OLD) and and
>>> recovering from extremely severe colon cancer surgery, BUT i'm looking to
>>> broaden my horizons/hobby. also a link to a DECENT free tracking program
>>> with updating pass predictions would be helpful, too. i have a refurb pc
>>> notebook in the shack for this project. yes, i've heard of google, and
>> yes,
>>> i've read darned near everything i can find...but the more i read, the
>> more
>>> confused this old guys gets. feel free to answer me via private email
>> so as
>>> not to clutter this mailing list...which HAS provided great info, but
>> also,
>>> sadly, adds to my confusion. at least, i've got the doppler effect
>> problem
>>> reasonably figured out. sorry for the long email and stupid questions.
>> i
>>> originally wasn't going to send it, but i figured i gotta start
>> someplace.
>>> 73!
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ---
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>>> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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>> to all
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