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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Link Budget (Bob- W7LRD)
2. Re: Link Budget (Edward R Cole)
3. Re: Link Budget (Joe)
4. dumbest questions in the world (Pedro Converso)
5. Re: Link Budget (Edward R Cole)
6. Re: Link Budget (Paul Stoetzer)
7. Re: Link Budget (John Becker)
8. AO-85 Testing November 8 and 9 (Jerry Buxton)
9. Re: Link Budget (Paul Stoetzer)
10. Link Budget (Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW)
11. Re: SatPC32: How to change a K3 to DATA mode for PSAT-1 ?
(Bob KD7YZ)
12. WD9EWK/p DM31 XW-2F Last Pass 0100utc (John Papay)
13. Re: SatPC32: How to change a K3 to DATA mode for PSAT-1 ?
(Bob KD7YZ)
14. Video: ISS reception with Dearborn Public Schools (John Brier)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 21:46:44 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Link Budget
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Why not L/S on a geo bird? I may have missed the memo on that idea. Many of
us still have AO40 (sobsob) gear.
73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "KA9QJG" <KA9QJG@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "Joe" <nss@xxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, November 7, 2015 1:22:13 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Link Budget
The good thing is that high power at 5 GHz is expensive, so I doubt
anyone will be running too much more than they have to on P4B!
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 4:10 PM, KA9QJG <KA9QJG@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Joe And Others for many years I have Heard thoughts about a Geo synchronous
> well mostly it was the cost, But I also heard a lot of people say if We
> had a Geo type bird We would have the people who like to setting us Big ants
> lots of power and just set and be on the birds all the time .
> Unfortunately I know We do have this type on the air I haves no idea if this
> would actually happen or not
>
> 73 De Don KA9QJG
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Joe
> Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 1:58 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Link Budget
>
> Can anyone here run a link budget for me?
>
> I'm in an slight heated debate with some people, About how they have heard
> about the possible Geo synchronous bird coming up, and they are all
> wondering why don't "THEY" I like the "THEY" part, anyway why don't they
> just put it on the moon.
>
> I gave them several reasons why a Geo bird is better,
>
> 1- It is there 24/7 where the moon is visible less than 50% of the day
>
> 2- the Geo bird doesn't move ( or extremely little) so set the antenna and
> forget it. Where the moon requires tracking programs and antennas that can
> move in AZ and EL
>
> 3- Useable "Window" The amount of the earths surface that can see either is
> soo close to the same why bother I bet a geo bird would be at least close to
> 90% of what the moon see's
>
> 4- And finally antennas and power required. The moon being soooo much
> farther away the amount of power needed each way has to be MUCH more.
> And thats what I was wondering say you had a nice decent transponder in Geo
> orbit. what power levels say ERP I guess is needed each way? then drop the
> same transponder and how much more erp each way will be needed to have the
> same level of contact quality?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2015 12:53:06 -0900
From: Edward R Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Link Budget
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Maybe. Ever heard of Moonbounce (eme)?
I have a 16-foot dish (4.9m) which can make 5w very loud on
5-GHz! Compared to a 3-foot dish it is 20Log(16/3) = 14.5 dB more
gain (28 times as much signal strength).
It moves slow so would not track a LEO at all and only track HEO at
the highest part of the orbit where angular rates are slow. It
tracks the Moon very nice. I use in on 1296-eme with 125w.
5-GHz eme typically have 50w or more power. Most run TWT's. Some
have hundreds of watts!
73, Ed - KL7UW
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 16:22:13 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: KA9QJG <KA9QJG@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Link Budget
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The good thing is that high power at 5 GHz is expensive, so I doubt
anyone will be running too much more than they have to on P4B!
73,
Paul, N8HM
73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
"Kits made by KL7UW"
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 16:00:01 -0600
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Link Budget
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what kind of ground station will be needed?
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
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http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 11/7/2015 2:45 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
> Actually, we are working on one that will be orbiting the Moon...
>
> Jerry
> N0JY
>
> On Nov 7, 2015 1:57 PM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Can anyone here run a link budget for me?
>>
>> I'm in an slight heated debate with some people, About how they have
>> heard about the possible Geo synchronous bird coming up, and they are
>> all wondering why don't "THEY" I like the "THEY" part, anyway why don't
>> they just put it on the moon.
>>
>> I gave them several reasons why a Geo bird is better,
>>
>> 1- It is there 24/7 where the moon is visible less than 50% of the day
>>
>> 2- the Geo bird doesn't move ( or extremely little) so set the antenna
>> and forget it. Where the moon requires tracking programs and antennas
>> that can move in AZ and EL
>>
>> 3- Useable "Window" The amount of the earths surface that can see either
>> is soo close to the same why bother I bet a geo bird would be at least
>> close to 90% of what the moon see's
>>
>> 4- And finally antennas and power required. The moon being soooo much
>> farther away the amount of power needed each way has to be MUCH more.
>> And thats what I was wondering say you had a nice decent transponder in
>> Geo orbit. what power levels say ERP I guess is needed each way? then
>> drop the same transponder and how much more erp each way will be needed
>> to have the same level of contact quality?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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>>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 19:04:16 -0300
From: Pedro Converso <pconver@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] dumbest questions in the world
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Hello,
It is not a dumb question, is what most starting bird chasers' ask.
Trying solve this question I made a simple & free one screen
application showing at a glance most required information.
You can try it at http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm
Will show in your local time what next passes are coming.
If you click on a satellite icon, will see azimuth/elevation +
graphics, modes, doppler adjusted uplink/downlink frequencies, and a
beep alerting coming or leaving satellites.
Good luck with your renewed interest on the birds !!
Best 73,
lu7abf, Pedro Converso
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2015 12:39:41 -0900
From: Edward R Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Link Budget
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I don't recall exactly but there is geostationary and there geocentric orbits.
The orbit that is not zero inclination will trace a figure 8 in the
sky but its not a large deviation in position. If 5GHz is being
considered for the link, antenna gain may be fairly high but will
they have a beamwidth narrower than the angular deviation that the
figure 8 makes? How big a dish? 2-foot? 3-foot? Get out your
sliderules and calculate the beamwidth (no I will not do it for you).
I think the inclination in geotationary is not very high (maybe a few
degrees; i.e. <10). The apparent motion would be diurnal so nothing
rapid. One could probably use a manual setting for a few hours.
Just a guesstimate.
73, Ed - KL7UW
From: Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Link Budget
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While it appears that you are right about the link budget, one of you
arguments holds only *some* water, and that is tracking.
GeoSTATIONARY birds would require to tracking, but there are
geosynchronous orbits (i.e. 24 hours, but not necessarily 0
inclination and 0 eccentricity) which would move north/south or
east/west in the sky over the course of a day.
And regarding the moon: Another argument against it is that it is
darned hard to land on the moon. Lots more deltaV required.
73,
Burns W2BFJ
73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
"Kits made by KL7UW"
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 17:12:40 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Link Budget
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Not enough space for the antennas is the big reason. Then there's the issue
of S band downlink from GEO being unusable due to terrestrial QRM from WiFi
and ISM devices.
Also, it's not impossible that we could lose the amateur satellite service
allocation at 1260 MHz due to Galileo. Some European authorities are
already restricting amateur operations there (even though Galileo receivers
were supposed to be able to coexist with other users of the band).
Don't get rid of it yet. Maybe P3E will be able to carry L/S. Bands haven't
been determined yet. There's still the issue of terrestrial QRM at S
band though. Even so, maybe the L band uplink will be available and you'll
just need to swap out the LNB and preamp on your receive system to
receive 10 GHz.
And remember you'll be able to play around with your L band uplink
system on Fox-1Cliff and Fox-1D.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Saturday, November 7, 2015, Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Why not L/S on a geo bird? I may have missed the memo on that idea. Many
> of us still have AO40 (sobsob) gear.
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> ------------------------------
> *From: *"Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm@xxxx.xxx
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','n8hm@xxxx.xxxxxx>>
> *To: *"KA9QJG" <KA9QJG@xxxxxxx.xxx
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','KA9QJG@xxxxxxx.xxxxxx>>
> *Cc: *"Joe" <nss@xxx.xxx <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','nss@xxx.xxxxxx>>, "
> amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxxx>" <
> AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxxx>>
> *Sent: *Saturday, November 7, 2015 1:22:13 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [amsat-bb] Link Budget
>
> The good thing is that high power at 5 GHz is expensive, so I doubt
> anyone will be running too much more than they have to on P4B!
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Sat, Nov 7, 2015 at 4:10 PM, KA9QJG <KA9QJG@xxxxxxx.xxx
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','KA9QJG@xxxxxxx.xxxxxx>> wrote:
> > Joe And Others for many years I have Heard thoughts about a Geo
> synchronous
> > well mostly it was the cost, But I also heard a lot of people say if
> We
> > had a Geo type bird We would have the people who like to setting us Big
> ants
> > lots of power and just set and be on the birds all the time .
> > Unfortunately I know We do have this type on the air I haves no idea if
> this
> > would actually happen or not
> >
> > 73 De Don KA9QJG
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxxxx>] On Behalf
> Of Joe
> > Sent: Saturday, November 07, 2015 1:58 PM
> > To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxxx>
> > Subject: [amsat-bb] Link Budget
> >
> > Can anyone here run a link budget for me?
> >
> > I'm in an slight heated debate with some people, About how they have
> heard
> > about the possible Geo synchronous bird coming up, and they are all
> > wondering why don't "THEY" I like the "THEY" part, anyway why don't they
> > just put it on the moon.
> >
> > I gave them several reasons why a Geo bird is better,
> >
> > 1- It is there 24/7 where the moon is visible less than 50% of the day
> >
> > 2- the Geo bird doesn't move ( or extremely little) so set the antenna
> and
> > forget it. Where the moon requires tracking programs and antennas that
> can
> > move in AZ and EL
> >
> > 3- Useable "Window" The amount of the earths surface that can see either
> is
> > soo close to the same why bother I bet a geo bird would be at least
> close to
> > 90% of what the moon see's
> >
> > 4- And finally antennas and power required. The moon being soooo much
> > farther away the amount of power needed each way has to be MUCH more.
> > And thats what I was wondering say you had a nice decent transponder in
> Geo
> > orbit. what power levels say ERP I guess is needed each way? then drop
> the
> > same transponder and how much more erp each way will be needed to have
> the
> > same level of contact quality?
> >
> > Joe WB9SBD
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
> <javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxxxx>. AMSAT-NA makes this
> open forum available to all
> > interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> > expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> > views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 16:40:35 -0600
From: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Link Budget
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Agreed ! Bob is so dead on this.
Seems that LOW EARTH ORBIT for some reason is stuck in a lot of heads.
AO-40 was so much fun and so easy to use.
John, W0JAB
On 11/7/2015 3:46 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
> Why not L/S on a geo bird? I may have missed the memo on that idea. Many
of us still have AO40 (sobsob) gear.
>
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 16:44:32 -0600
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Testing November 8 and 9
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*Summary of AO-85 testing:*
*Please do not try to uplink to AO-85 during the following times (all of*
*which occur while AO-85 is over North America) even though the*
*transponder will be active and you may hear activity.*
*Sunday November 8, 15:35 through 15:55 UTC*
*Sunday November 8, 17:15 through 17:35 UTC*
*Monday November 9, 00:05 through 00:25 UTC*
*Monday November 9, 01:45 through 02:10 UTC*
All dates and times are UTC, all passes are Sunday local time in North
America. Stations in North, Central, and northern South America are
asked to comply.
You are encouraged to copy telemetry with FoxTelem during these times to
forward to the server to help us analyze the test results.
*Details of this AO-85 testing:*
Sunday, November 8 and into early Monday, November 9 (UTC) the Fox-1
Engineering Team will be testing the COR (carrier operated relay) mode
of AO-85.
COR is the backup to the IHU failing, if IHU fails AO-85 should continue
operating as a simple COR repeater with no CTCSS necessary as long as
there is power.
In COR mode no telemetry or voice ID is present because those are
generated by the IHU.
Orbit 443 ascending, at approximately 15:35 UTC over North America we
will test a telemetry high/low reset command. Following the command
look for Ground Resets = 2 in the Computer window of FoxTelem. Once
that is confirmed, we will command the IHU OFF on the same pass. Please
keep the uplink clear in order to help us test and monitor the telemetry.
Orbit 444 ascending, at approximately 17:15 UTC over North America AMSAT
command and engineering stations will test the COR mode on the air to
observe performance.
Please keep the uplink clear so that we may test without interference,
to expedite the testing and allow for good measurements. We may command
IHU ON during the pass in order to observe battery voltage in the
telemetry. Please have FoxTelem running even if there is no telemetry
seen, it may turn on at any time during this pass.
Orbit 448 descending, at approximately 00:05 UTC Monday over North
America we will command AO-85 IHU ON. Please keep the uplink clear in
order to help us test and monitor the telemetry after the IHU is turned on.
Orbit 449 descending, at approximately 01:45 UTC Monday over North
America if we were unable to command IHU ON on orbit 448, we will
attempt to command again. Please keep the uplink clear in order to help
us test and monitor the telemetry after the IHU is turned on.
During the testing stations outside North, Central and northern South
America are invited to use the COR repeater mode and share your
assessment of AO-85 receive sensitivity and audio on amsat-bb.
Stations in North, Central, and northern South America may use the COR
repeater on orbits 445 through 447 and are also invited to share your
assessment of AO-85 receive sensitivity and audio on amsat-bb.
Please share this widely to help reach everyone who may be operating AO-85.
Thank you for your support.
--
Jerry Buxton, N?JY
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 18:03:26 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Link Budget
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AMSAT has two serious projects underway - for both GEO and HEO.
There aren't many details available at this point. P4B, in a geosynchronous
orbit will be 5 GHz up and 10 GHz down. Bands for P3E, going to a Molniya
orbit, have not been determined yet.
Not only that, but AMSAT's partnership with Ragnarok for the Lunar
CubeQuest challenge could result in a transponder in lunar orbit, which
would be an interesting challenge. Again that will use 5 GHz up and 10 GHz
down.
And AMSAT is continuing with LEO projects, of course. Fox-1Cliff and Fox-1D
launch 1Q 2016. RadFXSat (Fox-1B) launches November 2016 and Fox-1E is also
being worked on.
Lots of exciting stuff in progress over the next few years!
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Saturday, November 7, 2015, John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Agreed ! Bob is so dead on this.
> Seems that LOW EARTH ORBIT for some reason is stuck in a lot of heads.
> AO-40 was so much fun and so easy to use.
>
> John, W0JAB
>
>
> On 11/7/2015 3:46 PM, Bob- W7LRD wrote:
>
>> Why not L/S on a geo bird? I may have missed the memo on that idea. Many
>> of us still have AO40 (sobsob) gear.
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 18:18:02 -0500
From: Nicholas Mahr KE8AKW <nicholasmahr1@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Link Budget
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I hope we can get Molyina/HEO bird. I would prefer a molyina orbit
satellite over a geo satellite because I thinks it would be more
interesting and fun to work, and everyone on earth can get a chance to use
it hense AO-40's Named "International Satellite". If we were to put a
satellite into lunar orbit it would not be possible to use for regular hams
but would be very interesting and a big step for AMSAT. Hopefully we can
get P3E up in orbit so we can have alot of fun.
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 19:38:44 -0500
From: Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32: How to change a K3 to DATA mode for
PSAT-1 ?
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On 07-Nov-15 1001, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> There is no need for doppler rig control for PSK31 on PSAT.
I need the K3 to automatically switch to, and stay in, DATA mode so I
can xmit the PSK31.
USB mode, at least on my K3, will key down but provide no audio output
from the SignaLink.
All my WSJT work always goes thru DATA mode.
Satpc32 is moving the antennas for me. When I make a change to another
Satellite, SatPC32 changes both the IC910 and if needed the K3.
SatPC32 doesn't program but three rigs. K3 isn't one of them yet. But
there is a little inter-connectivity by using selection of Kenwood.
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73,
Bob KD7YZ
www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
AmSat LM#901
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 07 Nov 2015 19:42:31 -0500
From: John Papay <john@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK/p DM31 XW-2F Last Pass 0100utc
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Patrick headed down to DM31 after the Marana Hamfest.
The XW-2F pass at 0100 utc will be the last one before he
heads for home. DM31 is a very rare grid. Work him if
you can.
73,
John K8YSE/7
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Message: 13
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 19:46:49 -0500
From: Bob KD7YZ <kd7yz@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32: How to change a K3 to DATA mode for
PSAT-1 ?
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On 07-Nov-15 1003, Mark L. Hammond wrote:
> Are you
> using a data jack on the rig?
K3 is keyed, for WSJT, MixW, Mult-PSK, and FLDigi, by the Tigertronics
(soundcard) SignaLink. Computer programs mentioned generate the tones
and key the Soundcard ... and so on. They all work wonderfully well.
The program which was mentioned by W4apr, the psk-dop, I downloaded and
run. It keys the K3. But I have to manually put the K3 in Data mode.
The Satpc32 program has CAT functions and thus is tying up the K3 or IC910.
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73,
Bob KD7YZ
www.qrz.com/db/kd7yz
AmSat LM#901
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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 7 Nov 2015 21:38:48 -0500
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Video: ISS reception with Dearborn Public Schools
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zixq5yyWH-k
My goal with this one was to get it under 10 minutes since even that
is long for the Internet. So it doesn't have much explanation of the
setup like some of my other longer videos. I'm thinking of making a
video just describing all the parts and how they work and referencing
that at the end of each reception video and then linking it in the
description and within the video.
73, John, KG4AKV
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