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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Cold (B J)
   2. Podcast On Satellite RFI (B J)
   3. ANS-361 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins (Lee McLamb)
   4. Re: Cold (Gary Mayfield)
   5. request for info on North American grids active via	satellite
      in 2015 (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
   6. Grids I operated from (jeffory broughton)
   7. Re: AO-85 high speed data/telemetry testing Dec. 29-30,	2015
      (Scott)
   8. Re: AO-85 high speed data/telemetry testing Dec. 29-30,	2015
      (Burns Fisher)
   9. Re: AO-85 high speed data/telemetry testing Dec. 29-30,	2015
      (Scott)
  10. Re: What on earth (or in space...) is going on? (Pete Parisetti)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 17:14:01 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cold
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On 12/26/15, Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi Ed,
>
> It was -15F this morning in Manitoba (-26C) and I still have to climb the
> tower to get the 2m antenna aligned. Hope it works or I will be out of
> business until spring :-(
>
> Have a great New Year.

I won't be on the linear birds until spring because I have to move my
entire station outside.  It's cold out on my balcony!

I might be able to reach an FM satellite as my FT-817 is
well-insulated in the case I bought for it.  All I need is a suitable
pass....

73s, Bonne Ann?e, und ein gl?ckliches Neujahr.

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 18:17:58 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Podcast On Satellite RFI
Message-ID:
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https://thespaceshow.wordpress.com/2015/12/17/swf-space-show-webinar-friday-12
-18-15/

Amateur radio isn't specifically covered but the discussion covers
many of the same issues concerning interference and spectrum
management that has been mentioned on this mailing list from time to
time.

Video is at:

https://vimeo.com/channels/thespaceshow

Audio only:

http://archived.thespaceshow.com/shows/2607-BWB-2015-12-18.mp3

It runs just over 2  hours.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 20:15:12 -0500
From: Lee McLamb <ku4os@xxx.xx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-361 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
Message-ID: <567F3BA0.6070505@xxx.xx.xxx>
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-361

The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* Fox-1Cliff and -1D Matching Contribution Offer
* AMSAT SKN on OSCAR 2016 This Week
* ARISS Celebrates 15 Years of School Contact
* AMSAT Awards
* EO-79 Transponder Activation
* NASA Commercial Crew Program 2016 Children's Artwork Calendar


SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-361.01
ANS-340 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 361.01
  From AMSAT HQ Kensington, MD.
December 27, 2015
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-361.01

Fox-1Cliff and -1D Matching Contribution Offer

Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays to AMSAT members and satellite
enthusiasts
everywhere!

In this season of giving, we?ve had a generous offer for matching funds
up to
$1,000 for those that contribute to the Fox-1Cliff and -1D crowdsourcing
campaign at https://fundrazr.com/campaigns/6pz92/ab/561Zd between now and
December 31st. Make your donation twice as valuable by taking advantage
of this
opportunity and contributing before the end of the year, and help AMSAT
fund the
launch of the next two satellites in the Fox-1 series.

Slated for launch in 2016 on the inaugural Spaceflight SHERPA mission
aboard a
SpaceX Falcon 9, Fox-1Cliff and -1D carry university experiments from
Pennsylvania State-Erie, Vanderbilt, University of Iowa, cameras
provided by
Virginia Tech, as well as amateur radio voice repeaters capable of U/V
or L/V
operation.

Donations of $100 or more are eligible for a special AMSAT Fox challenge
coin,
and $1,000 or more qualifies for a plaque with an actual solar panel
cover from
Fox-1Cliff or -1D. (We?ve nearly exhausted our coin supply and are
waiting on
resupply from the mint. Plaques will be distributed sometime after
spacecraft
integration. Please be patient for delivery of either premium.)

AMSAT is a 501-(c)-(3) not-for-profit educational and scientific
organization of
amateur radio operators whose purpose is to design, construct, launch, and
operate satellites in space and to provide the support needed to encourage
amateurs to utilize these resources.  Please consider a tax-deductible
contribution to AMSAT to help underwrite the development and launch
expenses of
our Fox  satellite program.

Donors wishing to provide additional matching funds please contact Drew
Glasbrenner, KO4MA at ko4ma@xxxxx.xxx.

[ANS thanks Drew, KO4MA, for the above information]


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AMSAT SKN on OSCAR 2016 This Week

You are cordially invited to participate in Straight Key Night on OSCAR
2016,
sponsored by AMSAT for all radio amateurs throughout the world.

Operate CW through any amateur satellite from 0001 through 2400 UTC on 1
January
2016, using a manual, non-electronic key.  Note that bugs are now
allowed, as
they are in similar ARRL and SKCC events.

There is no need to send in a log, but please nominate someone you
worked for
Best Fist.  Your nominee need not have the best fist of those you heard,
just of
those you worked.  Send your nomination to w2rs@xxxxx.xxx.. A list of those
nominated will be published in early February.

This year?s event is being held in memory of Ben Stevenson, W2BXA
(1914-2011).
Licensed since 1929, Ben was one of the world?s top DXers on both HF and
satellites.  He led the DXCC Honor Roll for many years, and among his many
awards were Satellite DXCC No. 1 and post-war Worked All Zones No. 1.
Founding
president of the North Jersey DX Association, Ben shared his knowledge and
enthusiasm with one and all.

[ANS thanks Ray, W2RS, for the above information]


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ARISS Celebrates 15 Years of School Contacts

15 years ago today, on December 21, 2000, students at Burbank School in
Burbank Illinois, U.S.A. lined us and readied themselves for a very
historic
event---the first school contact with the crew on the International Space
Station.  ARISS mentor and radio operator Charlie Sufana, AJ9N and his team
of volunteers had aptly prepared the students, teachers and the public in
attendance for their historic contact.  As AOS approached, Charlie began
calling NA1SS.  Soon, Expedition 1 Commander Bill "Shep" Shepherd, KD5CDL
answered back and the students immediately began asking Shep their
questions.  The rest is history.

Burbank school teacher, Rita Wright, who later became KC9CDL, continues to
be active in ARISS as a volunteer.  Rita's 2004 AMSAT Symposium paper,
"Remember, We're Pioneers!" chronicles the Burbank school's journey to the
first ARISS contact and beyond.  You are invited to download the paper at
https://www.dropbox.com/s/q8cmd0eu9y0imsz/REMEMBER--Burbank%20School.pdf?dl=0


With this historic event in mind, I would like to take this opportunity to
thank our volunteers from the ARISS operations team for their outstanding,
long term support to ARISS.  These folks---our mentors, telebridge
operators
and operations leaders---are the foundation of ARISS.   They have made
nearly 1000 ARISS contacts successful since Burbank, 15 years ago. Without
them, the goals of ARISS: inspiration, exploration, education and
experimentation, could not be achieved.  Their guidance, mentoring and
presentations, before, during and after the contact were crucial in
achieving these goals.  Thank you all!!

As the ARISS team prepares for 2016, with many schools in the queue,
prepared, ready and waiting for their upcoming contacts, ARISS is
gearing up
for another historic event---our 1000th school contact.  Wow! 1000 ARISS
contacts!!  To celebrate this historic event, I would ask those that
know of
an ARISS student that has graduated and is now in a science, technology,
engineering or mathematics (STEM) field to please have them share their
story with us.  Please pass this along to others and have them send their
stories to me at ka3hdo at verizon.net or to our web master at ariss at
arrl.org.

We would like to compile these for our space agency customers and to share
the stories with the amateur radio community.


[ANS thanks Frank, KA3HDO, for the above information]


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AMSAT Awards

Here are our newest award recipients and end of the year finale.
Happy Holidays and Good DX to all

AMSAT Satellite Communicators Award
Adrian Liggins, VA3NNA
John Pate, W1XQ
Mission Bay ARC, KM3RKI
Jim Leahy, N0VVV

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AMSAT Communication Achievement Award

Fernando Ramirez-Ferrer, NP4JV #568

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AMSAT Sexagesimal Award

Clayton Coleman, W5PFG #172

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AMSAT Robert W. Barbee Jr., W4AMI Award
Frank Westphal, K6FW #84   1,000 contacts
John Papay, K8YSE/7 #85   1,000 contacts

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AMSAT South Africa Communication Achievement Award
Fernando Ramirez-Ferrer, NP4JV #US196

To see all the awards visit http://www.amsat.org or
http://www.amsatnet.com/awards.html

Bruce Paige, KK5DO
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards

[ANS thanks Bruce, KK5DO, for the above information]


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EO-79 Transponder Activation

On December 21, 2015 at 1038 UT, the EO-79 transponder was turned on for a
prolonged period.

The FUNcube transponder subsystem on QB50p1 (EO-79) had been provided by
AMSAT-
UK and AMSAT-NL and is a similar subsystem as on FUNcube-1, but without the
telemetry downlink circuitry.

The current software running on EO-79 does experience occasional
reboots. When
these reboots happen, the transponder is automatically turned off and
will have
to be turned back on by a command station. The FUNcube team has selected
a few
command stations to do so, but be advised the transponder may be off.

TLEs:
AMSAT keps name: EO-79
Celestrak keps Name: QB50P1
Celestrak file: cubesat.txt
NORAD #    40025
COSPAR designator    2014-033-R

Frequencies:
*Uplink:* 435.035-435.065 MHz LSB [See note below]
*Downlink:* 145.935-145.965 MHz USB

EO-79 has been set to only beacon the normal AX.25 beacon every 30 seconds
instead of 10 seconds. The beacon frequency is 145.815 MHz and consists
of AX.25
frames on BPSK. More details about the downlink can be found on the ISIS
Ham
Radio page at http://isispace.nl/HAM/qb50p.html

We kindly request you to share your experiences with the AMSAT Bulletin
Board so
everyone can benefit from operating tips and tricks, as well as being
up-to-date
on the status.

We would also welcome any observation related to the transponder
behaviour when
the AX.25 beacon comes on.

Just like FUNcube-1, the crystal oscillator circuits exhibit drift with
temperature. This means manual tuning will probably work best.

Mike Seguin N1JEZ notes:  I found my downlink after setting my uplink
+12 kHz
from published spec

SatPC32 tracking software Doppler SQF information used by Peter VK4NBL:
EO-79,145950,435063,USB,LSB,REV,0,0
EO-79,145814.8,435070,CW,TELEMETRY,0,0

Lastly, the commanding team will not be available over Christmas, so the
current
activations are planned from today until Thursday 24th and from Monday 28th
until Thursday 31st

[ANS thanks Wouter, PA3WEG, and AMSAT-UK for the above information]


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NASA Commercial Crew Program 2016 Children's Artwork Calendar

Some of the best works of art come from children who are only limited by
their imaginations, like the more than 150 young explorers from across the
country who submitted artwork depicting human spaceflight as they see it.
Sixteen masterpieces were chosen to be included in the NASA Commercial Crew
Program 2016 Children's Artwork Calendar, which is now available for
download in PDF format, at http://go.nasa.gov/1NVTww4. We offer a huge
"thank you!" to all the explorers, ranging in age from four to 12, who
submitted their work and hope that everyone will enjoy and use this
calendar
next year.

[ANS thanks the NASA Commercial Crew Program for the above information]



In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Lee McLamb, KU4OS
ku4os at amsat dot org


























































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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 20:13:25 -0600
From: "Gary Mayfield" <kk0sd@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cold
Message-ID: <00e901d1404c$2b67cc50$823764f0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Is there anyone left on the list that I worked from EN 04 on January 23rd of
2003?

I'm sure I was a sight to see in the parking lot at -23F

73,
Joe kk0sd

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Stefan
Wagener
Sent: Saturday, December 26, 2015 10:51 AM
To: Ed Cunningham
Cc: AMSAT BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cold

Hi Ed,

It was -15F this morning in Manitoba (-26C) and I still have to climb the
tower to get the 2m antenna aligned. Hope it works or I will be out of
business until spring :-(

Have a great New Year.

Stefan, VE4NSA

On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Ed Cunningham <edc2491@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> Good morning,
>
>
>
> Got up this morning, got my coffee and turned on the computer to check
> satellite passes.  As the computer was loading the weather came up, 34
> degrees with 18 to 20 MPH wind.  I didn't even bother checking the birds,
> living in Phoenix AZ I don't have warm enough clothes to go out in that
> weather for any length of time.  Oh well, I'll check  later for the
> afternoon passes.
>
>
>
> Hope you all had a great Christmas.
>
>
>
> Ed, N7EC, DM33wu
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2015 03:03:48 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] request for info on North American grids active
via	satellite in 2015
Message-ID:
<CAN6TEUdfs+i9dOETtSNGha_6kJwwtVKS_NbyCVzSuy8sygceyA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi!

I'm trying to put together some data to illustrate how many grids around
North America (including Mexico, Central America, and the Caribbean) that
have been active on the satellites in 2015. I asked for this information
on Twitter earlier today, and I'll make the same request here. If you have
operated from grids away from home, please send me the list of grids you
have worked from. Please include your home grid in the list. I would like
to make a map of grids that were available via satellite during 2015, and
possibly scribble an article for the AMSAT Journal as well.

Besides my own activity in 2015, I have lists from the following stations:

AA5PK
KA4H
KX9X
N8HM
NP4JV
W5PFG

I will generate a map based on all submissions I receive, and probably
some other maps based on the lists I receive from other stations. Even if
your list is nothing more than one other grid besides your home grid,
every submission is appreciated.

I am hoping to have this information by 15 January 2016, so I can then make
the maps and write that article about which grids have been on the air
during 2015 before getting too far into 2016.

Thanks in advance, and 73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx


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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 22:30:38 -0500
From: jeffory broughton <jefforybroughton@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Grids I operated from
Message-ID:
<CACm2je1DOb5n5=gPv1MVBvW2HFCptuDSUYHiY1e6K-6rs1=kYw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Home grid EN72
OPERATED from EN82 / EN83 LINE
WB8RJY

jeff broughton


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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 23:06:59 -0500
From: Scott <scott23192@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "Mark L. Hammond" <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 high speed data/telemetry testing Dec.
29-30,	2015
Message-ID:
<CAJCSnOYyxZgwEys65aQq7Awuaqpd9OXSv3WgHBXLWPiOBg06uA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Nice overhead pass of AO-85 just now; decoded 52 packets with v1.03a of
FoxTelem in auto mode.

Question:   Even though I heard a couple of stations attempting to work the
voice transponder, there seemed to be a constant carrier that looked like
data to me.  Quite different from the sub-audio data that I have copied in
the past.   On the SDR waterfall, it occupied maybe 12-15k KHz of the RF
spectrum, I believe.   Has something changed since the last time I
downloaded AO-85 telemetry?  Any idea what I was seeing?  Were BOTH the
voice transponder and high-speed data on at the same time somehow?

IQ recording available if needed.

Thanks!

-Scott,  K4KDR   FM17es
Montpelier, VA  USA

On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Mark L. Hammond <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:

> Hello All,
>
> Greetings.  In an effort to test a new autobaud selection feature in
> FoxTelem 1.03, the Operations Team will be conducting some experimental
> sessions with AO-85 next week (Dec. 29 and 30, 2015).
>
> Telemetry collectors in/near the US are encouraged to participate and help
> with testing the autobaud selection feature by installing the 1.03 test
> version available here:
> http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/test/
>
> I suggest you do a clean/fresh install in a new folder so you can always
> go back to 1.02 if you prefer.  (It's possible to upgrade only the new
> files, but if you have to ask how, you'd better not do it ;))
>
> You'll see a new "Auto" button option, next to the Low and High speed
> buttons; use it.
>
> Specifically, during the following passes we'll be switching from the
> current voice transponder operation with low speed telemetry, to high speed
> telemetry (Note: in high speed mode, voice operations are OFF).  The
> switches will take place about every minute or two during the pass. Please
> avoid making contacts during these testing periods.
>
>
>  29.12.2015  AO-85        11:19 11:32 UTC
>  29.12.2015  AO-85        13:00 13:12 UTC
>
>  30.12.2015  AO-85        11:45 11:59 UTC
>
>
> During 2016, two or three more Fox satellites are planned for launch into
> orbit, and these birds will need to operate in high speed data mode from
> time to time to download space photos, experimental data, etc.  Taking
> advantage of some in orbit testing with Fox-1A/AO-85 will be very helpful
> to the further development of the FoxTelem ground station software.  All
> the thanks go to Chris Thompson AC2CZ for his extraordinary efforts on the
> telemetry software (both client and server side)!
>
> Feedback about your experiences will be appreciated.  Email to the list is
> preferred so all can learn.
>
> 73,
>
>
>
>
> Mark L. Hammond  [N8MH]
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 23:14:16 -0500
From: Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx>
To: Scott <scott23192@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Mark L. Hammond"
<marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 high speed data/telemetry testing Dec.
29-30,	2015
Message-ID:
<CABX7KxW5FjzR2=1SgQFRbe+u7oeW2aVKqWZ7sfzcHEM2K8j0PA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

One comment about the "constant carrier".  Remember that with FM, there
*is* a constant carrier as long as "PTT" is "pressed".  And on AO-85 the
carrier stays on for 30 seconds after the last time it heard a 67-Hz tone.
And in addition, there is no squelch on the receiver (for the same reason
you turn squelch off when listening on the ground---to be able to pick up
weak signals better).  So I wonder if you hear the carrier still on and
repeating noise from the the uplink when no one was talking?  That is a
pretty wide use of spectrum because it is pretty loud.

73,

Burns W2BFJ

On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Scott <scott23192@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Nice overhead pass of AO-85 just now; decoded 52 packets with v1.03a of
> FoxTelem in auto mode.
>
> Question:   Even though I heard a couple of stations attempting to work the
> voice transponder, there seemed to be a constant carrier that looked like
> data to me.  Quite different from the sub-audio data that I have copied in
> the past.   On the SDR waterfall, it occupied maybe 12-15k KHz of the RF
> spectrum, I believe.   Has something changed since the last time I
> downloaded AO-85 telemetry?  Any idea what I was seeing?  Were BOTH the
> voice transponder and high-speed data on at the same time somehow?
>
> IQ recording available if needed.
>
> Thanks!
>
> -Scott,  K4KDR   FM17es
> Montpelier, VA  USA
>
> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Mark L. Hammond <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello All,
> >
> > Greetings.  In an effort to test a new autobaud selection feature in
> > FoxTelem 1.03, the Operations Team will be conducting some experimental
> > sessions with AO-85 next week (Dec. 29 and 30, 2015).
> >
> > Telemetry collectors in/near the US are encouraged to participate and
> help
> > with testing the autobaud selection feature by installing the 1.03 test
> > version available here:
> > http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/test/
> >
> > I suggest you do a clean/fresh install in a new folder so you can always
> > go back to 1.02 if you prefer.  (It's possible to upgrade only the new
> > files, but if you have to ask how, you'd better not do it ;))
> >
> > You'll see a new "Auto" button option, next to the Low and High speed
> > buttons; use it.
> >
> > Specifically, during the following passes we'll be switching from the
> > current voice transponder operation with low speed telemetry, to high
> speed
> > telemetry (Note: in high speed mode, voice operations are OFF).  The
> > switches will take place about every minute or two during the pass.
> Please
> > avoid making contacts during these testing periods.
> >
> >
> >  29.12.2015  AO-85        11:19 11:32 UTC
> >  29.12.2015  AO-85        13:00 13:12 UTC
> >
> >  30.12.2015  AO-85        11:45 11:59 UTC
> >
> >
> > During 2016, two or three more Fox satellites are planned for launch into
> > orbit, and these birds will need to operate in high speed data mode from
> > time to time to download space photos, experimental data, etc.  Taking
> > advantage of some in orbit testing with Fox-1A/AO-85 will be very helpful
> > to the further development of the FoxTelem ground station software.  All
> > the thanks go to Chris Thompson AC2CZ for his extraordinary efforts on
> the
> > telemetry software (both client and server side)!
> >
> > Feedback about your experiences will be appreciated.  Email to the list
> is
> > preferred so all can learn.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Mark L. Hammond  [N8MH]
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 23:20:08 -0500
From: Scott <scott23192@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "Mark L. Hammond"
<marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 high speed data/telemetry testing Dec.
29-30,	2015
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My goof - that's exactly what it was.  Didn't recall that from the past but
I don't think I've ever monitored a pass before with so little voice
traffic.  Thinking back, every single pass that I downloaded telemetry from
in the past was nearly full of voice traffic.

Thanks!

On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 11:14 PM, Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx> wrote:

> One comment about the "constant carrier".  Remember that with FM, there
> *is* a constant carrier as long as "PTT" is "pressed".  And on AO-85 the
> carrier stays on for 30 seconds after the last time it heard a 67-Hz tone.
> And in addition, there is no squelch on the receiver (for the same reason
> you turn squelch off when listening on the ground---to be able to pick up
> weak signals better).  So I wonder if you hear the carrier still on and
> repeating noise from the the uplink when no one was talking?  That is a
> pretty wide use of spectrum because it is pretty loud.
>
> 73,
>
> Burns W2BFJ
>
> On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 11:06 PM, Scott <scott23192@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Nice overhead pass of AO-85 just now; decoded 52 packets with v1.03a of
>> FoxTelem in auto mode.
>>
>> Question:   Even though I heard a couple of stations attempting to work
>> the
>> voice transponder, there seemed to be a constant carrier that looked like
>> data to me.  Quite different from the sub-audio data that I have copied in
>> the past.   On the SDR waterfall, it occupied maybe 12-15k KHz of the RF
>> spectrum, I believe.   Has something changed since the last time I
>> downloaded AO-85 telemetry?  Any idea what I was seeing?  Were BOTH the
>> voice transponder and high-speed data on at the same time somehow?
>>
>> IQ recording available if needed.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> -Scott,  K4KDR   FM17es
>> Montpelier, VA  USA
>>
>> On Fri, Dec 25, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Mark L. Hammond <marklhammond@xxxxx.xxx
>> >
>> wrote:
>>
>> > Hello All,
>> >
>> > Greetings.  In an effort to test a new autobaud selection feature in
>> > FoxTelem 1.03, the Operations Team will be conducting some experimental
>> > sessions with AO-85 next week (Dec. 29 and 30, 2015).
>> >
>> > Telemetry collectors in/near the US are encouraged to participate and
>> help
>> > with testing the autobaud selection feature by installing the 1.03 test
>> > version available here:
>> > http://amsat.us/FoxTelem/test/
>> >
>> > I suggest you do a clean/fresh install in a new folder so you can always
>> > go back to 1.02 if you prefer.  (It's possible to upgrade only the new
>> > files, but if you have to ask how, you'd better not do it ;))
>> >
>> > You'll see a new "Auto" button option, next to the Low and High speed
>> > buttons; use it.
>> >
>> > Specifically, during the following passes we'll be switching from the
>> > current voice transponder operation with low speed telemetry, to high
>> speed
>> > telemetry (Note: in high speed mode, voice operations are OFF).  The
>> > switches will take place about every minute or two during the pass.
>> Please
>> > avoid making contacts during these testing periods.
>> >
>> >
>> >  29.12.2015  AO-85        11:19 11:32 UTC
>> >  29.12.2015  AO-85        13:00 13:12 UTC
>> >
>> >  30.12.2015  AO-85        11:45 11:59 UTC
>> >
>> >
>> > During 2016, two or three more Fox satellites are planned for launch
>> into
>> > orbit, and these birds will need to operate in high speed data mode from
>> > time to time to download space photos, experimental data, etc.  Taking
>> > advantage of some in orbit testing with Fox-1A/AO-85 will be very
>> helpful
>> > to the further development of the FoxTelem ground station software.  All
>> > the thanks go to Chris Thompson AC2CZ for his extraordinary efforts on
>> the
>> > telemetry software (both client and server side)!
>> >
>> > Feedback about your experiences will be appreciated.  Email to the list
>> is
>> > preferred so all can learn.
>> >
>> > 73,
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Mark L. Hammond  [N8MH]
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> > expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 19:48:00 +0000
From: Pete Parisetti <peteparisetti@xxxxx.xxx>
To: David G0MRF <g0mrf@xxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] What on earth (or in space...) is going on?
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You see, Dave, this is way more information that I have managed to gather
in the whole of 2015. Thank you so much for that!

Fair enough, I didn't go to the symposium, but a whole lot of other people
didn't go, and we have no way to know otherwise, which I find a shame.

All your points are well understood. I only and very dearly hope that
what's possibly flying on the HEO is NOT the digital voice thing they are
talking about for the geostationary one. Fine on the 5/10 frequency
combination. That'll be a nice challenge!

One thing I don't understand: if they remove the engine, how does the HEO
bird get into high orbit?

Thanks again and 73.

Pete MM0TWX


On Sat, Dec 26, 2015 at 4:14 PM, David G0MRF <g0mrf@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> Hi Pete.
>
> So, it's a lot of changes from the old P3E but then the plans for that are
> 15 years old.....So pretty much dead.
>
> The spaceframe for P3E is tested for flight (same as AO-13)
> Virginia tech are proposing to remove the engine and add a commercial
> payload but keep the general concept of an amateur radio satellite.
> All the transponder designs are 20 years out of date...So dustbin for them
> In their place goes a set of 10G transmitters and 5GHz receivers as the
> basis of a digital transponder.
>
> Not all new. A-NA are also using the same transponder technology on a
> hosted payload going to geosync orbit to cover the Americas.
>
> So that's one geosync hosted payload and another high earth orbit sat
> built around the P3E spaceframe. Both are 5G up and 10G down
>
> (Don't hold your breath though....these things have a habit of not quite
> working out as planned...but we all hope they will)
>
> 73
>
> David  G0MRF
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Pete Parisetti <peteparisetti@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Sat, 26 Dec 2015 15:32
> Subject: [amsat-bb] What on earth (or in space...) is going on?
>
> I have been sucked into a discussion that makes me feel like I have spent
> the last six months in a coma...
>
> In a nutshell:
>
> QUOTE
>
> Now, let me remind you of the latest developments, as seen from a casual
> but highly interested observer like myself, and you will tell me if this is
> a sad joke or what.
>
> 1) From the AMSAT newsfeed, on July 25 we learn that "AMSAT-NA, AMSAT-DL,
> and Virginia Tech Announce Potential Phase-3E Opportunity".
>
> 2) In the following months there has been absolutely NO FOLLOW-UP, no
> information whatsoever on this potentially crucial piece of information.
>
> 3) A couple of days ago, completely out of the blue, we learn that "AMSAT
> Ground Terminal Development Expands to Texas".
>
> Hello? WTF is going on here? The P3E launch opportunity has morphed into a
> geostationary satellite (never heard a thing about that). The projct has
> morphed from a P3E "old school" satellite into this digital monster (never
> heard a thing about that). Things have developed to such an extent that now
> "ground terminals are being expanded"...
>
> UNQUOTE
>
> Here's a link to the thread:
>
>
>
http://forums.qrz.com/index.php?threads/first-amateur-radio-in-geosynchronous-
orbit.505312/page-3
>
> 73 HNY Pete MM0TWX
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