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Today's Topics:

   1. N3YKF/8R1 (Eduardo Erlemann)
   2. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2015-12-30 21:00	UTC
      (AJ9N@xxx.xxxx
   3. VO1ONE (John KI4RO)
   4. AO-85 Celestrak TLE (Frank Westphal)
   5. Re: AO-85 Celestrak TLE (Nitin Muttin)
   6. Re: AO-85 Celestrak TLE (Scott)
   7. Re: AO-85 Celestrak TLE (Jerry Buxton)
   8. Re: LNB use on 10 Ghz? (Daniel Est?vez)
   9. Re: LNB use on 10 Ghz? (Graham Shirville)
  10. Re: Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) (Nick Pugh)
  11. Re: AO-85 Celestrak TLE (Burns Fisher)
  12. Re: Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!) (Bob)
  13. Sat32PC talking to radios question (Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:20:01 +0000 (UTC)
From: Eduardo Erlemann <sasb.geo@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] N3YKF/8R1
Message-ID:
<592577775.5209458.1451499601867.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

N3YKF/8R1 Worked on FO-29, AO-7 and SO-50

Thanks

Ed PY2RN
GG66


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 16:13:30 -0500
From: AJ9N@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2015-12-30
21:00	UTC
Message-ID: <734dd.4686df72.43b5a2fa@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2015-12-30  21:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

Frederick W. Harnett Middle School, Blackstone,  Massachusetts, telebridge
via K6DUE
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled  to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Contact is a  go for: Tue 2016-01-05 17:42:06 UTC 81 deg

Sandringham School, St.  Albans, Hertfordshire, UK, direct via GB1SAN
The ISS callsign is presently  scheduled to be GB1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake  KG5BVI
Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-01-08 08:47:47 UTC 83 deg

****************************************************************************
**
I  would like to thank everyone who has supported ARISS since the first
contact  back 15 years ago.  I can still remember ARISS contact #1 where I was
the  control operator at Burbank outside of Chicago.  It has been a blast
ever  since.

Now we are heading into 2016 where we hope to keep the  traditions going.
We have 2 contacts scheduled in the first week of the new  year.

Charlie  AJ9N

****************************************************************************
**
>From  2015-12-20 to 2016-01-04, there will be no US Operational Segment
(USOS)
hams  on board ISS.  So any schools contacts during this period will be
conducted  by the ARISS Russia  team.

****************************************************************************
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to  send
your reports to aj9n@xxxxx.xxx or aj9n@xxx.xxx.

****************************************************************************
Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.


http://www.ariss-eu.org/

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100

schools:

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Francesco IK?WGF with 115
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 114

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are
additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed
time.
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8061 date
and
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2015-12-30 21:00 UTC.
(***)

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1015.
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 980.
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 46.

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, North Dakota, Rhode Island, South Dakota, Vermont,
Wyoming,  American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin
Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2015-12-09 07:30 UTC.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  43/44 on orbit
Scott Kelly
Mikhail Kornienko RN3BF

Exp. 45 on  orbit
Sergey Volkov RU3DIS

Exp. 46 on orbit
Tim Kopra  KE5UDN
Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko  RK3DUP

****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors




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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 18:09:38 -0500
From: John KI4RO <johnki4ro@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] VO1ONE
Message-ID:
<CA+-NL43zexMd5ah08fTV6RkRUvhopc0XRMYwKE3VhtpYu09VOg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Worked Mark in GN37 on SO50 2110z pass today.  Don't know how long he will
be there or if he is going to operate from other grids.

--
73
John KI4RO
? EM88?


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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 30 Dec 2015 20:56:48 -0800
From: Frank Westphal <k6fw1@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Celestrak TLE
Message-ID: <5684B590.9060604@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

I use an IOS satellite tracking program called SatExpPro which downloads
the TLE's from Celestrak.  I can't find the TLE's for AO-85 at the
Celestrak site.  Does the Celestrak site use a different name for
AO-85?  There is no listing for Fox either.  The SatExpPro program does
not allow for the downloading of the TLE's from the AMSAT site which has
the TLE's for AO-85.

I use SatPC32 on my desktop and download the TLE's from the AMSAT site
for AO-85.  Is there a reason that the Celestrak site would not host the
TLE's for AO-85?

Thanks for any help in solving this mystery.

73,
Frank
K6FW



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 05:01:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: Frank Westphal <k6fw1@xxxxxxx.xxx>, 	"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Celestrak TLE
Message-ID:
<483144975.5085070.1451538116034.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

What I understand is that the keps are not available as the satellite was
launched using a military rocket.You will have to manually copy from
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
?73
Nitin [VU3TYG]

    On Thursday, 31 December 2015 10:27 AM, Frank Westphal
<k6fw1@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:


 I use an IOS satellite tracking program called SatExpPro which downloads
the TLE's from Celestrak.? I can't find the TLE's for AO-85 at the
Celestrak site.? Does the Celestrak site use a different name for
AO-85?? There is no listing for Fox either.? The SatExpPro program does
not allow for the downloading of the TLE's from the AMSAT site which has
the TLE's for AO-85.

I use SatPC32 on my desktop and download the TLE's from the AMSAT site
for AO-85.? Is there a reason that the Celestrak site would not host the
TLE's for AO-85?

Thanks for any help in solving this mystery.

73,
Frank
K6FW

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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 00:13:53 -0500
From: "Scott" <scott23192@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Celestrak TLE
Message-ID: <0E9CEFF157784361AF8E0F4132626251@xxxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="UTF-8"

I use the same iPhone app, Frank.  It's a shame that they don't include
those newer sats.

I've put an icon on my screen to the following URL to at least have a way to
see pass predictions for those satellites even though it's not as easy to
use as the SatExpPro app:

http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/predict/index.php

-Scott, K4KDR
Montpelier, VA  USA


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  ----- Original Message -----
  From: Nitin Muttin
  To: Frank Westphal ; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
  Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 00:01
  Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Celestrak TLE


  What I understand is that the keps are not available as the satellite was
launched using a military rocket.You will have to manually copy from
  http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
  73
  Nitin [VU3TYG]

      On Thursday, 31 December 2015 10:27 AM, Frank Westphal
<k6fw1@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:


   I use an IOS satellite tracking program called SatExpPro which downloads
  the TLE's from Celestrak. I can't find the TLE's for AO-85 at the
  Celestrak site. Does the Celestrak site use a different name for
  AO-85? There is no listing for Fox either. The SatExpPro program does
  not allow for the downloading of the TLE's from the AMSAT site which has
  the TLE's for AO-85.

  I use SatPC32 on my desktop and download the TLE's from the AMSAT site
  for AO-85. Is there a reason that the Celestrak site would not host the
  TLE's for AO-85?

  Thanks for any help in solving this mystery.

  73,
  Frank
  K6FW

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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 00:11:47 -0600
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Celestrak TLE
Message-ID: <5684C723.1090806@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

It is true, having been launched on a classified mission the TLEs for
AO-85 are only available to a few of us at AMSAT.  So the AMSAT-provided
Keplerian elements are the only ones that contain them.

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 12/30/2015 23:01, Nitin Muttin wrote:
> What I understand is that the keps are not available as the satellite was
launched using a military rocket.You will have to manually copy from
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
>  73
> Nitin [VU3TYG]
>
>     On Thursday, 31 December 2015 10:27 AM, Frank Westphal
<k6fw1@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
>  I use an IOS satellite tracking program called SatExpPro which downloads
> the TLE's from Celestrak.  I can't find the TLE's for AO-85 at the
> Celestrak site.  Does the Celestrak site use a different name for
> AO-85?  There is no listing for Fox either.  The SatExpPro program does
> not allow for the downloading of the TLE's from the AMSAT site which has
> the TLE's for AO-85.
>
> I use SatPC32 on my desktop and download the TLE's from the AMSAT site
> for AO-85.  Is there a reason that the Celestrak site would not host the
> TLE's for AO-85?
>
> Thanks for any help in solving this mystery.
>
> 73,
> Frank
> K6FW
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 10:41:12 +0100
From: Daniel Est?vez <daniel@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LNB use on 10 Ghz?
Message-ID: <5684F838.4030609@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

El 29/12/15 a las 20:02, jameshickox@xxxxxxxxx.xxx escribi?:

> Hello,Questions about the discussion on inexpensive downlink using the
satellite TV LNB's.
> Do they require any conversion to get from 11 Ghz down to the 10ghz ham
band?
> If they don't, is there any significant loss in signal from being used on
a different frequency than they were intended for?
> Is there anything posted on a Web page showing a working setup?
> Lastly, (I promise) Are there any working sats in the 10ghz range to test
a system on?

Hi James,

I have used an Avenger PLL321S-2 LNB. This has good gain in the in the
10GHz band (although probably a bit less than in the 11GHz). With it
I've been able to receive my local terrestrial beacon without using a
dish. The beacon is 200mW, about 40km away and not line of sight, so I
think that the receiving performance is OK for many ham applications.

The main problem is that the local oscillator in the LNB is not very
stable. If you're using it for a narrow-band application, it will drift
quite a bit.

I think that the situation (regarding gain in 10GHz and oscillator
stability) is similar with all the satellite TV LNB's. Some people have
done modifications to the LNB to improve the stability. The most popular
are:

* To use an external PLL driven by a TCXO or OCXO.
* To generate a strong carrier in the 10GHz band, to receive the carrier
and the signal of interest with the LNB, and to use the carrier to mix
the signal of interest down to, say 28MHz. Since the carrier and the
signal are both affected to the same extent by the LNB LO drift, this
cancels most of the drift.

Regarding sats in the 10GHz, I don't know of any which is working right
now. If I recall correctly, the two future geostationary sats will have
10GHz downlinks. However, if you just want to play a bit, there are many
geostationary which transmit narrowband data streams on the 11GHz band,
so you could use this to test your setup.


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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 10:11:20 -0000
From: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Daniel Est?vez <daniel@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LNB use on 10 Ghz?
Message-ID: <FEF31A1F8D054A6683AB220D5B24A425@xxxxxxx.xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8";
reply-type=original

Hi Daniel,

Apologies for a shameless New Year's plug but the two latest editions of
Oscar News, # 211 and 212, both carry articles about successfully using
these low cost devices. http://amsat-uk.org/tag/oscar-news/ You can join
AMSAT-UK online and then easily download the magazines.

These devices should also be ideal for receiving signals from the
Geostationary Eshailsat transponder.

73

Graham
G3VZV


-----Original Message-----
From: Daniel Est?vez
Sent: Thursday, December 31, 2015 9:41 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LNB use on 10 Ghz?

El 29/12/15 a las 20:02, jameshickox@xxxxxxxxx.xxx escribi?:

> Hello,Questions about the discussion on inexpensive downlink using the
> satellite TV LNB's.
> Do they require any conversion to get from 11 Ghz down to the 10ghz ham
> band?
> If they don't, is there any significant loss in signal from being used on
> a different frequency than they were intended for?
> Is there anything posted on a Web page showing a working setup?
> Lastly, (I promise) Are there any working sats in the 10ghz range to test
> a system on?

Hi James,

I have used an Avenger PLL321S-2 LNB. This has good gain in the in the
10GHz band (although probably a bit less than in the 11GHz). With it
I've been able to receive my local terrestrial beacon without using a
dish. The beacon is 200mW, about 40km away and not line of sight, so I
think that the receiving performance is OK for many ham applications.

The main problem is that the local oscillator in the LNB is not very
stable. If you're using it for a narrow-band application, it will drift
quite a bit.

I think that the situation (regarding gain in 10GHz and oscillator
stability) is similar with all the satellite TV LNB's. Some people have
done modifications to the LNB to improve the stability. The most popular
are:

* To use an external PLL driven by a TCXO or OCXO.
* To generate a strong carrier in the 10GHz band, to receive the carrier
and the signal of interest with the LNB, and to use the carrier to mix
the signal of interest down to, say 28MHz. Since the carrier and the
signal are both affected to the same extent by the LNB LO drift, this
cancels most of the drift.

Regarding sats in the 10GHz, I don't know of any which is working right
now. If I recall correctly, the two future geostationary sats will have
10GHz downlinks. However, if you just want to play a bit, there are many
geostationary which transmit narrowband data streams on the 11GHz band,
so you could use this to test your setup.
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 05:07:16 -0600
From: "Nick Pugh" <quadpugh@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Robert Bruninga'" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>,	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!)
Message-ID: <01e601d143bb$6a4b7350$3ee259f0$@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

Good point Bob but include the real estate cost  in to the equation and they
improve.
nick

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Robert
Bruninga
Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 11:06 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!)

Compare the cost and efficiency of solar panels for cubesats and for your
house:

http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/efficiency-comparison-cost.png






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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 08:55:00 -0500
From: Burns Fisher <burns@xxxxxx.xx>
To: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 Celestrak TLE
Message-ID:
<CABX7KxWqDZM4SvNbCULftVR-c9bTnLziUf6LfHBpWsqnf18Rjw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I was using SatExpPro, but switched back to PocketSat3 for this very
reason.  I really liked SatExpPro too :-(

On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 1:11 AM, Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> It is true, having been launched on a classified mission the TLEs for
> AO-85 are only available to a few of us at AMSAT.  So the AMSAT-provided
> Keplerian elements are the only ones that contain them.
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
> On 12/30/2015 23:01, Nitin Muttin wrote:
> > What I understand is that the keps are not available as the satellite
> was launched using a military rocket.You will have to manually copy from
> > http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
> >  73
> > Nitin [VU3TYG]
> >
> >     On Thursday, 31 December 2015 10:27 AM, Frank Westphal <
> k6fw1@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  I use an IOS satellite tracking program called SatExpPro which downloads
> > the TLE's from Celestrak.  I can't find the TLE's for AO-85 at the
> > Celestrak site.  Does the Celestrak site use a different name for
> > AO-85?  There is no listing for Fox either.  The SatExpPro program does
> > not allow for the downloading of the TLE's from the AMSAT site which has
> > the TLE's for AO-85.
> >
> > I use SatPC32 on my desktop and download the TLE's from the AMSAT site
> > for AO-85.  Is there a reason that the Celestrak site would not host the
> > TLE's for AO-85?
> >
> > Thanks for any help in solving this mystery.
> >
> > 73,
> > Frank
> > K6FW
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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> AMSAT-NA.
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> program!
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>
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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>


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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 11:25:32 -0500
From: Bob <WB4SON@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Nick Pugh <quadpugh@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!)
Message-ID:
<CAPonRZ8Met2nt4NC5K4OZb7VahcGm2JjWgn8bgEYJXqhQEGaqQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Sort of off the AMSAT topic, but the most recent estimate is that about 20
gigawatts of solar will be added in 2016 -- almost doubling the total
installed capacity of US solar power.  This is being primarily driven by
residential installations.  Utility-scale installations are actually down
5%.

One thing that was keeping mass market efficiency down was a glut of
production capability that existed through 2014.  Manufactures were not
keen on investing in new processes at the same time they were going out of
business or consolidating.  That glut has been drying up, prompting Elon
Musk's to build a $1 billion dollar factory in Buffalo NY which will
produce 1 GW of panels annually by the end of 2016.  Those panels are
expected to be 22.1% efficient.  That's a pretty impressive gain in
efficiency.

Often times market conditions, not technology, dictates what reaches the
mass market, and that has most certainly been the case in the solar
industry.  That 50% increase in panel efficiency doesn't necessarily mean
that the cost per watt will be reduced in the short term -- those panels
may simply sell for 50% more.

73, Bob, WB4SON








On Thu, Dec 31, 2015 at 6:07 AM, Nick Pugh <quadpugh@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Good point Bob but include the real estate cost  in to the equation and
> they improve.
> nick
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Bruninga
> Sent: Wednesday, December 30, 2015 11:06 AM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Waiting for Solar Panel Efficiency (Ha!)
>
> Compare the cost and efficiency of solar panels for cubesats and for your
> house:
>
> http://aprs.org/Energy/solar/efficiency-comparison-cost.png
>
>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 31 Dec 2015 16:36:20 +0000 (UTC)
From: "Brian Sarkisian, KG8CO" <cqkg8co@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Sat32PC talking to radios question
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I recently installed the Sat32PC program and it doesn't look like the
program is talking with the radios.
I am using an IC-7000 and a FT-100D as the two radios.
I have set up both radio's comport information and at this point I do not
have a rotor.
I see that SatPC32 is tracking as the frequency changes, however, the radios
aren't doing anything.
What am I missing?

Thank you

Brian, KG8CO

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