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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Cruise with AMSAT (W M Willoughby)
   2. Re: Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (Robert Bruninga)
   3. Re: Cruise with AMSAT (Clayton W5PFG)
   4. Re: Cruise with AMSAT (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
   5. Re: Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (kb2m@xxxx.xxxx
   6. Re: Cruise with AMSAT (R.T.Liddy)
   7. Re: Fwd: Cruise with Amsat! (Goody K3NG)
   8. Working AO-85 With An FT-817 (B J)
   9. Re: Working AO-85 With An FT-817 (Bill Attwood)
  10. Re: Working AO-85 With An FT-817 (Fernando Ramirez)
  11. Re: Working AO-85 With An FT-817 (B J)
  12. Re: Cruise with AMSAT (David G0MRF)
  13. It's about time! FO-29 successfully worked!
      (J. Boyd, JR2TTS/AB3UR)
  14. Re: It's about time! FO-29 successfully worked! (Paul Stoetzer)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:42:19 -0600
From: "W M Willoughby" <redski@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT
Message-ID: <001001d14c00$8c33c8d0$a49b5a70$@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the
info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the Symposium
webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to cover all
necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad.



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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 18:55:50 -0500
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat!
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I think the cruise is a good idea.  My only thought about it is that some
wives are very high maintenance, possibly placing the ham in a lose-lose
situation being split apart by dual loyalties.  Or he can try to go alone,
and face other consequenceis.  It will be an interesting challenge...

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 2:04 PM, W M Willoughby <redski@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:

> I think it is a great idea to try the cruise venue. I don't see how my wife
> could possibly object to being on a cruise while I am in satellite
> presentations and I know she would enjoy meeting some of my radio friends.
> If the attendance is particularly low, we will know not to try it again! I
> just hope Carnival will be cooperative about a bunch of hams waving
> satellite antennas around. Imagine that picture - a dozen guys standing on
> deck in Bermuda shorts, waving Elks & Arrows, wearing headphones and
> talking
> to one another through a satellite! Sounds like some prime material for the
> AMSAT Journal about a year from now.
>
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 17:57:59 -0600
From: Clayton W5PFG <w5pfg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: W M Willoughby <redski@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT
Message-ID: <5692F007.2010506@xxxxx.xxx>
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There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to
come.  Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple.

My recommendation is to follow the web page that is up and running on
the AMSAT website: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667
There's a FAQ page linked at the bottom.

The most important task today is reserving your cabin space.  AMSAT
cannot hold a large block of cabins indefinitely. The $150 per person
deposit is 100% refundable up until September 11.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On 1/10/2016 17:42, W M Willoughby wrote:
> I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the
> info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the Symposium
> webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to cover all
> necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad.


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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 00:48:41 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT
Message-ID:
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Hi!

It appears that the process for a non-Panamanian
amateur operator to legally operate from a
Panamanian-registered ship is simple. For amateur
operators in some North and South American countries,
including the USA and Canada, the IARP is the way to
go. If the foreign operator cannot obtain an IARP, a
temporary Panamanian amateur permit is available. For
IARP holders, there is also a notification that appears
to be required - a notice sent to the Panamanian
Department of Communications, part of the Ministry
of Government and Justice. This information is
listed on the Radio Club de Panama web site:

http://www.qsl.net/hp1rcp/PANAMA%20AMATEUR%20RADIO%20LICENSING%20INFORMATION.h
tm

A notification is much simpler than having to apply
for a temporary operating permit. Hopefully this step
is what it appears to be in that link above - a
formality. This page refers to operating from Panamanian
territory, and is silent on the topic of maritime mobile
operation from a Panamanian-flagged ship. Since a ship
can be considered an extension of the country of its
registration, this is hopefully not a problem in the eyes
of the Panamanian authorities.

On the other hand, I would not expect there is any chance
of obtaining permission to operate in Cozumel or Mexican
territorial waters. In the past couple of years, the
regulator for amateur licensing in Mexico changed. So far,
the new regulator (Federal Telecommunications Institute,
also known by abbreviations IFT or IFETEL) has not issued
new amateur licenses or permits. IFT has been renewing
existing amateur licenses, and even in the past the process
to get a temporary amateur permit to operate in Mexico was
not easy - or cheap.

In US territorial waters, it is simple. If you have a US
amateur license, or a foreign license recognized by the
FCC, you can operate.

All of this, of course, depends on having permission from
the ship's captain to use radio gear onboard. I did not
know that Carnival has a ham-friendly reputation, but that
was mentioned in a presentation given by Allen Mattis N5AFV
at the 2013 AMSAT Symposium in Houston. Allen talked about
his experiences operating from cruise ships and getting
licensed to operate from the ships (among other topics). A
video of that 2013 presentation is available at:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMBuGjHSH2U

The slideshow from Allen's 2013 Symposium presentation
is available at:

http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/~bklofas/Presentations/AMSAT-NA_Symposium2013/Matt
is_Satellites_from_Cruise_Ships.pdf

This is an interesting plan for a Symposium, and being
able to operate on the ship would be a nice thing along
with the normal Symposium activities and the day in
Cozumel. It is good that the Symposium FAQ was updated
today with more information on the costs of the cruise,
beyond the $150 deposit.

73!





Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx




On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 11:57 PM, Clayton W5PFG <w5pfg@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to
> come.  Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple.
>


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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 20:34:27 -0500
From: <kb2m@xxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat!
Message-ID: <123501d14c10$369ea790$a3dbf6b0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="UTF-8"

If it's like any of the cruises I've been on it's more like pick up 4 adult
beverages.....

73 Jeff kb2m

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Glenn Anderson
Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 16:46 PM
To: Jerry Buxton; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat!

Put down the radio...pick up an adult beverage. ...





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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 02:34:13 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Ed Cunningham <edc2491@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT
Message-ID:
<642092484.3148200.1452479653154.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Well, I can tell you that the IRS doesn't think so if youwin big in the
Casino!!! ?I KNOW!! ? ?- Bob K8BL
      From: Ed Cunningham <edc2491@xxx.xxx>
 To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
 Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 5:03 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT

Remember, once you set foot on a cruise ship you are in another country and
must have an amateur radio license issued by the country the ship is
registered in.? You must also have permission from the company and the
captain of the ship.?



Ed, N7EC



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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 21:44:16 -0500
From: Goody K3NG <goody.k3ng@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat!
Message-ID:
<CAK2SEyvU5OXG+f7fHQ94b8unzJq7mNGcWpJGY3+dacVg30ZeQA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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This cruise sounds like the Love Boat but with lots of RF and satellites.
Wish I could go.   :-)

On Sun, Jan 10, 2016 at 8:34 PM, <kb2m@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

> If it's like any of the cruises I've been on it's more like pick up 4
> adult beverages.....
>
> 73 Jeff kb2m
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Glenn
> Anderson
> Sent: Sunday, January 10, 2016 16:46 PM
> To: Jerry Buxton; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fwd: Cruise with Amsat!
>
> Put down the radio...pick up an adult beverage. ...
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 03:48:09 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Working AO-85 With An FT-817
Message-ID:
<CAP7QzkMiFZY_i3ccu+hKeZFqJEQ0pmN=3LLYM7H6Cho5seVhHA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I've made several attempts to work this bird with my '817, since it's
winter where I live and setting up my IC-910 on my balcony would be
impractical.

I programmed my radio with the nominal uplink and downlink at 435.180
and 145.980, respectively.  I haven't made any contacts so far, so I'm
wondering if I should adjust the uplink closer to 435.172.  (I'm
assuming, of course, that I haven't been blacklisted or some such
thing, hi.)

Please advise.  Thank you.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL


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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 20:55:07 -0700
From: Bill Attwood <whattwood@xxxxx.xxx>
To: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Working AO-85 With An FT-817
Message-ID:
<CAAgwbZH3-y1qKyRA9raYt467q-KUGSUxy-=qcoe7SH1VnL-J=g@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi Bernhard,
It's been stated that the uplink frequency is about 10KHz lower than
published. You'll want to start around 435.160 and end around 435.180

Some have found it easier to make it into the bird for the second half of
the pass.

The antenna polarization is the same for RX & TX so if you're using an
Arrow you'll want to twist it to the weakest receive signal before
transmitting.

Good luck, hope to catch you on!

Bill
VE6WK

Regards,
Bill
On Jan 10, 2016 8:48 PM, "B J" <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> I've made several attempts to work this bird with my '817, since it's
> winter where I live and setting up my IC-910 on my balcony would be
> impractical.
>
> I programmed my radio with the nominal uplink and downlink at 435.180
> and 145.980, respectively.  I haven't made any contacts so far, so I'm
> wondering if I should adjust the uplink closer to 435.172.  (I'm
> assuming, of course, that I haven't been blacklisted or some such
> thing, hi.)
>
> Please advise.  Thank you.
>
> 73s
>
> Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 21:25:51 -0700
From: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Working AO-85 With An FT-817
Message-ID:
<CAGHXx8iuaK1cFi20j2R2ftMUgf7C0q3Bmonoe8Hwwxhfgz9Qww@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Just to echo Bill's advice and relate my own experience.

I don't have any experience with the 817 as I use a 5 watts Chinese HT.

I programmed 5 channels on my radio with 435.160 as AOS through 435.180 LOS
and 435.170 for mid pass.

Since I operate half duplex (I don't encourage this due to all the obvious
reasons), I divide the arc on my tracking app in 5 segments to find the
correct uplink frequency.

The antenna I use is an Arrow II. You will tune for clear signal then twist
90? to transmit. Twist again to receive. I understand Elk users don't have
a problem with this since both bands use the same polarity.

Following this pass pattern, I've gotten into the satellite down to 6
degrees elevations. Also, I am only able to work the satellite on ascending
passes (south to north) after it crosses the satellite apex.

It's is hard but doable!

73

Fernando, NP4JV
On Jan 10, 2016 8:48 PM, "B J" <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

I've made several attempts to work this bird with my '817, since it's
winter where I live and setting up my IC-910 on my balcony would be
impractical.

I programmed my radio with the nominal uplink and downlink at 435.180
and 145.980, respectively.  I haven't made any contacts so far, so I'm
wondering if I should adjust the uplink closer to 435.172.  (I'm
assuming, of course, that I haven't been blacklisted or some such
thing, hi.)

Please advise.  Thank you.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 04:41:44 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Working AO-85 With An FT-817
Message-ID:
<CAP7QzkNV6E7AXc1JEosc5zuUH0taHujGxtT9PnthmqHGoLprJw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

On 1/11/16, Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Just to echo Bill's advice and relate my own experience.
>
> I don't have any experience with the 817 as I use a 5 watts Chinese HT.
>
> I programmed 5 channels on my radio with 435.160 as AOS through 435.180 LOS
> and 435.170 for mid pass.

That's how I set up my '817.

>
> Since I operate half duplex (I don't encourage this due to all the obvious
> reasons),

It would be fun unless there were challenges, hi.

I divide the arc on my tracking app in 5 segments to find the
> correct uplink frequency.

That's what I did for other FM birds like AO-27 and AO-51.

>
> The antenna I use is an Arrow II. You will tune for clear signal then twist
> 90? to transmit. Twist again to receive. I understand Elk users don't have
> a problem with this since both bands use the same polarity.

That might explain a few things.  I don't recall having to do that for
the earlier FM satellites that I was on.

>
> Following this pass pattern, I've gotten into the satellite down to 6
> degrees elevations. Also, I am only able to work the satellite on ascending
> passes (south to north) after it crosses the satellite apex.

I'll keep that in mind, particularly since the quadrant to my NW is
clear of obstructions.

>
> It's is hard but doable!

<snip>

Thanks for the tips.

73s

Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL


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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 04:33:19 -0500
From: David G0MRF <g0mrf@xxx.xxx>
To: w5pfg@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT
Message-ID: <152300858ab-132d-9a9f@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8


FYI
1-800 numbers only seem to work in the USA.

10/Nov is not listed as standard sailing, so details are difficult to find.

73

David
-----Original Message-----
From: Clayton W5PFG <w5pfg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
CC: W M Willoughby <redski@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sun, 10 Jan 2016 23:58
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Cruise with AMSAT

There will be published guidance for onboard operations in the months to
come. Being a Panama-flagged ship makes /HP operation fairly simple.

My recommendation is to follow the web page that is up and running on
the AMSAT website: http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=3667
There's a FAQ page linked at the bottom.

The most important task today is reserving your cabin space.  AMSAT
cannot hold a large block of cabins indefinitely. The $150 per person
deposit is 100% refundable up until September 11.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On 1/10/2016 17:42, W M Willoughby wrote:
> I did a quick Google search on the IARP that Paul mentioned. Here is the
> info on it: http://www.arrl.org/iarp - pretty easy. I am sure the Symposium
> webpages will have more and more info added in the coming weeks to cover all
> necessary aspects of travelling and operating abroad.
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 21:33:32 +0900
From: "J. Boyd, JR2TTS/AB3UR" <the2belo@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] It's about time! FO-29 successfully worked!
Message-ID: <cfebb304-9f17-4eaf-8f45-e6248415c3e6@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I finally made it into FO-29 this afternoon from PM85il, working stations
JA3RVS and JA3FWT. I also heard JR8LWY calling me, but wasn't able to return
the call. Oh well -- my first-ever QSOs on a SSB satellite!

The recording: https://soundcloud.com/minus2c/fo-29-pass-jan-11-2016-1426jst
(My QSOs are at about 4 minutes into the recording.)

At this point I must make a confession: I did what I should have done in the
first place, and bought another FT857D. At US$650 new there was really no
way I could resist. It was also borne out of a bit of frustration -- I
tested the IC-706 up, down, and sideways and it appears to be working
fine... but it seemed to not play nice with SATPC32 a lot of the time, it
was kind of hard to control during hectic SSB sat passes, and it just wasn't
making it into the bird.

So I splurged. Screw it. The 706 will probably end up being a dedicated 2m
SSB and 6m rig. I needed one for the shack anyway (my FTDX1200 can't do 2
meters, and my HTs are FM only of course).

Anyway, now armed with two of the same rig that are going to finally
cooperate, I went out to the usual spot and set up. The above recording is
the result.
The first thing I realized was, the signal is way down in the noise even at
the top of the pass (27 degrees this time around) with the Arrow aimed in
the right place. I was correcting for polarization and everything but this
was as good as I managed to get.

Take-aways from this:

1. I think I need a preamp. FO-29 is at pretty high altitude for a LEO sat
so if I want the real prize (QSOs with Alaska and Hawaii) I'm going to need
a way to bring the signal in when the bird is near the horizon. I would
welcome recommendations.

2. I still don't have SATPC32 figured out. I'm supposed to set the uplink
frequency offset so it will always be dead on when the bird comes up, but I
haven't really found the time to do that because I would have to waste a
pass sitting there figuring out how many Hz it was off. Until today, the
goal was "get a contact" so I ended up turning the laptop off and just
tuning manually. I will spend the time to properly configure the software
next time around.

3. I need a field-use CW paddle. The code was coming in much clearer than
the phone, and there seemed to be many more CW ops on the bird than anything.

All in all a good start I think. A learning experience.

--
J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B
the2belo@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx
www.qrz.com/db/jr2tts

TypeApp????



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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2016 07:49:43 -0500
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "J. Boyd, JR2TTS/AB3UR" <the2belo@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] It's about time! FO-29 successfully worked!
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOpx1S3PqaaiPnE1nagCr6zKFfwzmNA7C63biWvJwYOeyg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Congratulations! As far as the weak signals - what type of coax are you
using and how long is it? Most find that the 857 or 817 don't really need a
preamp to work FO-29 horizon to horizon, at least in a clear location. Coax
is cheaper than a preamp, so you might want to try it. I use 6' LMR-240
jumpers myself.

>From what I know of JA satellite operation, CW is definitely more popular
than SSB. The two 73 on 73 Award applications I've received from Japan have
shown a large majority of the QSOs on CW.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Mon, Jan 11, 2016 at 7:33 AM, J. Boyd, JR2TTS/AB3UR <
the2belo@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:

> I finally made it into FO-29 this afternoon from PM85il, working stations
> JA3RVS and JA3FWT. I also heard JR8LWY calling me, but wasn't able to
> return the call. Oh well -- my first-ever QSOs on a SSB satellite!
>
> The recording:
> https://soundcloud.com/minus2c/fo-29-pass-jan-11-2016-1426jst (My QSOs
> are at about 4 minutes into the recording.)
>
> At this point I must make a confession: I did what I should have done in
> the first place, and bought another FT857D. At US$650 new there was really
> no way I could resist. It was also borne out of a bit of frustration -- I
> tested the IC-706 up, down, and sideways and it appears to be working
> fine... but it seemed to not play nice with SATPC32 a lot of the time, it
> was kind of hard to control during hectic SSB sat passes, and it just
> wasn't making it into the bird.
>
> So I splurged. Screw it. The 706 will probably end up being a dedicated 2m
> SSB and 6m rig. I needed one for the shack anyway (my FTDX1200 can't do 2
> meters, and my HTs are FM only of course).
>
> Anyway, now armed with two of the same rig that are going to finally
> cooperate, I went out to the usual spot and set up. The above recording is
> the result.
> The first thing I realized was, the signal is way down in the noise even
> at the top of the pass (27 degrees this time around) with the Arrow aimed
> in the right place. I was correcting for polarization and everything but
> this was as good as I managed to get.
>
> Take-aways from this:
>
> 1. I think I need a preamp. FO-29 is at pretty high altitude for a LEO sat
> so if I want the real prize (QSOs with Alaska and Hawaii) I'm going to need
> a way to bring the signal in when the bird is near the horizon. I would
> welcome recommendations.
>
> 2. I still don't have SATPC32 figured out. I'm supposed to set the uplink
> frequency offset so it will always be dead on when the bird comes up, but I
> haven't really found the time to do that because I would have to waste a
> pass sitting there figuring out how many Hz it was off. Until today, the
> goal was "get a contact" so I ended up turning the laptop off and just
> tuning manually. I will spend the time to properly configure the software
> next time around.
>
> 3. I need a field-use CW paddle. The code was coming in much clearer than
> the phone, and there seemed to be many more CW ops on the bird than
> anything.
>
> All in all a good start I think. A learning experience.
>
> --
> J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B
> the2belo@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx
> www.qrz.com/db/jr2tts
>
> TypeApp????
>
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