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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Why 6 digit grid locator in Europe? (Dani EA4GPZ)
   2. Re: Why 6 digit grid locator in Europe? (Peter Goodhall)
   3. Colorado Amateur Satellite net Begins in 1 hour (Skyler F)
   4. Decoding Chubusat1/2 telemetry (J. Boyd (JR2TTS))
   5. Still trying to repair a Mirage KP-2 2 meter preamp (Larry Ryan)
   6. Re: Remote sensor for antenna array orientation (Alfred Watts)
   7. Yaesu G-500A Bulb Replacement Pics (Tony)
   8. We need more report of ChubuSat-2 and -3
      (Yasutaka Narusawa (JR2XEA))
   9. ChubuSat-3 (PY5LF)
  10. Gaasfet xistor (jeffory broughton)
  11. Good HamTv signal from ISS (Fer)
  12. Re: Good HamTv signal from ISS (Daniel Cussen)
  13. Re: Good HamTv signal from ISS (Fer)
  14. Re: Decoding Chubusat2/3 telemetry (Jeff A. Boyd)
  15. KM4IPF (James Lea - WX4TV)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 22:35:12 +0100
From: Dani EA4GPZ <daniel@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Why 6 digit grid locator in Europe?
Message-ID: <56C63910.2070405@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

El 18/02/16 a las 15:26, Peter Goodhall escribi?:

> We can strip down exchange information to just be 2E0SQL EA1JM IO91 or
> if we don't bother even with that 2E0SQL EA1JM.. I'm not really sure
> it constitutes a contact by my licence regulations.

I don't think that the licence regulations have any say on what
constitutes a contact or actually try say so. That's for the ham
community to decide. I can speak only for the Spanish and UK
regulations, which are the ones that I've ever read.

The EME and meteor scatter communities have a very clear idea of what
constitutes a contact for them, because they're only always working
under marginal conditions, so they try to send the least information
possible.


> There's far greater issues like people calling over the top of in
> progress QSOs, deliberate jamming etc which should be dealt with
> first, if this was taken care of then more QSOs on FM satellites could
> take place and that extra two letters wouldn't really make a real
> difference.

I agree with that. For me, the worst problem in FM satellites is people
calling over and over without being able to hear the satellite. It would
be fun to record some passes and study how much time gets wasted with
such issues and how much time is used to actually make QSOs. I have the
impression that more than half of the time gets wasted usually.

73,

Dani EA4GPZ.



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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 22:06:57 +0000
From: Peter Goodhall <peter@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Why 6 digit grid locator in Europe?
Message-ID:
<CAFvUaio-PWdD2fxoAo_U+sKLeDswXQtw=rRcNOOiAN=Rdzrn-w@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Ofcoms reasonably relaxed, its main concern is that I identify at the
start of a transmission (CQ) every 15mins or again if I change
frequency. IARU says that a valid QSO is defined as:-

- Mutually identified each other
- received a report and
- received confirmation of a successful identification & reception of the
report

Report could easily just be the Gridsquare on its own, after all the
signal reports meaningless via a satellite if its FM (probably ssb
too) and you're getting into it thats all that matters, remove the
signal report and you speed up the QSO and that extra two letters
doesn't seem so bad.

When you think

EA4GPZ 2E0SQL
2E0SQL IN80do
EA4GPZ IO91js
and a quick Thanks/73

Probably isn't going to take that long.

But I honestly don't feel that because on EME or M/S its just 4
characters that it should mean a sudden switch, for EME/MS the 4
letters have been decided based mainly on the digital modes which has
moved into HF with JT65 and JT9 before then apart from in a PSK brag
file you never really heard QRAs on HF.

I'm not sure how long the 6 characters has been a thing on the
satellites in Europe, but in the 4 years I've been on it's certainly
the norm.. like you say tons of times wasted on for example SO-50
having to wait for someone to stop calling over you or keying you out
that its easily 50% of the time lost just to people probably not being
able to hear the satellite in the first place.

Just my thoughts anyway and many thanks for the squares while you've
been on from the UK.

Pete, 2E0SQL

On 18 February 2016 at 21:35, Dani EA4GPZ <daniel@xxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> El 18/02/16 a las 15:26, Peter Goodhall escribi?:
>
>> We can strip down exchange information to just be 2E0SQL EA1JM IO91 or
>> if we don't bother even with that 2E0SQL EA1JM.. I'm not really sure
>> it constitutes a contact by my licence regulations.
>
> I don't think that the licence regulations have any say on what
> constitutes a contact or actually try say so. That's for the ham
> community to decide. I can speak only for the Spanish and UK
> regulations, which are the ones that I've ever read.
>
> The EME and meteor scatter communities have a very clear idea of what
> constitutes a contact for them, because they're only always working
> under marginal conditions, so they try to send the least information
> possible.
>
>
>> There's far greater issues like people calling over the top of in
>> progress QSOs, deliberate jamming etc which should be dealt with
>> first, if this was taken care of then more QSOs on FM satellites could
>> take place and that extra two letters wouldn't really make a real
>> difference.
>
> I agree with that. For me, the worst problem in FM satellites is people
> calling over and over without being able to hear the satellite. It would
> be fun to record some passes and study how much time gets wasted with
> such issues and how much time is used to actually make QSOs. I have the
> impression that more than half of the time gets wasted usually.
>
> 73,
>
> Dani EA4GPZ.
>
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--
Peter Goodhall, 2E0SQL


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 19:03:51 -0600
From: Skyler F <electricity440@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Colorado Amateur Satellite net Begins in 1 hour
Message-ID:
<CAJNyT0-s9H4G2=jr8dsQ-qEaQsXwihM9YO_p_xbURTDVsu-n_Q@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

This is a reminder that the Colorado Amateur Satellite net will begin in 1
hour from now (7PM mountain time Thursday).

6PM Pacific
7PM Mountain
8PM Central
9PM Eastern


Please visit us on

*AMSATNET.INFO <http://amsatnet.info/>*

*IRLP*
9870, the Denver Reflector

*ALLSTAR LINK*

40764, direct hookup to the repeater here. 41715, KC9ZHV hub at a data
center if I am out of bandwidth. More info on AllStar - amsatnet.info/#node

*ECHOLINK*

*AMSAT*  unless there is an ARISS contact, then go direct to KD0WHB-L

*LOCAL RF*
449.625 (-) 141.3 ( W?KU Lookout Mountain)
447.225 (-) 141.3 (The STEM school repeater we set up)
447.850 (-) 141.3 (AC?KQ's repeater where he lives on TOP of saddleback
mountain)
147.450 SIMPLEX (Aurora, CO)
446.275 (-) 100.0 Galena St. Local repeater at my house, giving a whopping
5 blocks of great coverage

*REMOTE RF*

Your Repeater here!, Email me if you want to link in or me to link your
echolink or allstar repeater in automatically (no automatic IRLP linking
supported)



Skyler Fennell
amsatnet.info
KD?WHB
electricity440@xxxxx.xxx


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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:11:11 +0900
From: "J. Boyd (JR2TTS)" <the2belo@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Decoding Chubusat1/2 telemetry
Message-ID: <20160219095315.D863.THE2BELO@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

I'm of the understanding that the Chubusat-1/2 satellites that were just
launched on Feb. 17 will be transmitting telemetry data in 9600 baud
GMSK, in KISS protocol.

With satellites in the past there have been programs written to decode
and save this data in .kss format, but I can't seem to locate any such
programs for the Chubusats. Does it require its own program, or is there
a general one that would be used for this purpose?

I have a brand spanking new FUNCube Dongle Pro+ and want to DECODE ALL
THE THINGS!

73
--
J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B
the2belo@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx
http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/
http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS
Twitter: @xxxxxxxx



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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 16:10:44 -0800
From: Larry Ryan <llryan807@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Still trying to repair a Mirage KP-2 2 meter
preamp
Message-ID:
<CAK9b=dhK6UqoiJTTf91z0gHLYah4tFf1Z4L_dEEg9ruC_ey7Pw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I am trying to repair a Mirage KP-2 series mast-mount 2M preamp. It is
quite old. Also, I have the companion bias-tee or Control Box as Mirage
calls it.

It comes in a black plastic box with the hardware to mount it on a mast.
Testing indicates the relay works and some transistors have a voltage.
Unfortunately testing also indicates its an attenuator. I think it has a
blown gasfet.

The small round gasfet has 4 leads and  has the following markings on top:

K183
R  43

The PCB is marked KP1&2 Rev B.  The
Have any of you repaired a KP-2 2M preamp?

Do any of you have a schematic diagram of this preamp?

Do any of you know the part number of the gasfet transistor? (I'm thinking
its the problem)


Any help would be appreciated.

Thanks & 73, Larry W7DGP


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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 19:24:47 -0700
From: "Alfred Watts" <awatts44@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Remote sensor for antenna array orientation
Message-ID: <000001d16abc$b43e6940$1cbb3bc0$@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Clayton,
One issue in using magnetometers for azimuth determination is the fact that
the sensitivity to bias and scale factor errors increases when crossed
instruments are used to measure the field. In a system I designed in the
past we used a single axis magnetometer and rotated it to null out the
reading. The angle to the magnetic field was measured by the angle of
rotation required. The instrument was mounted on a ~ 1 ft.  plastic shaft to
isolate it from the rotation motor and other sources of error. You could
mount the magnetometer on a simple stepper motor rotator and get better
performance as the expense of some complexity. But it might be a fun DIY
project. Another thing I could offer is I do have some software which
calculates the vector field at any location from the current geomagnetic
field model which is available on the internet. But you can do just about as
well with any current aeronautical chart.

BTW - Thanks for our QSO of earlier today on AO-85.

Regards,
Al Watts - AF5VH

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Clayton
W5PFG
Sent: Thursday, February 18, 2016 11:58 AM
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Remote sensor for antenna array orientation

Has anyone ever mounted a mutli-axis accelerometer or a magnetic compass
sensor to their antenna crossboom for making adjustments to point of aim?

I'm currently using Hall Effect sensors but experiencing several degrees of
drift over a short period of a few days.

73
Clayton
W5PFG


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 18 Feb 2016 22:05:01 -0500
From: Tony <dxdx@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G-500A Bulb Replacement Pics
Message-ID: <56C6865D.2080501@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

All:

I'm in the process of replacing the bulb inside a Yaesu G-500A elevation
controller so I thought I'd post a couple of pictures that show the
bulbs location and type - see attached.

The bulb (28v 40mA) is available from Radio Shack.

See:
https://www.radioshack.com/products/radioshack-28v-40ma-incandescent-flashligh
t-bulb-2-pack?variant=5717334149

73, Tony -K2MO


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 16:30:34 +0900 (JST)
From: Yasutaka Narusawa (JR2XEA) <jr2xea@xxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] We need more report of ChubuSat-2 and -3
Message-ID: <201602190730.u1J7UYJQ027497@xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-2022-JP

Dear all;


Thank you for your reports after the launch.

But ChubuSat-2 and ChubuSat-3 are still in critical phase.
So, we still need your beacon or 9k6 report so that we know
status of both satellites.

Best Regards,

Yasutaka Narusawa (JR2XEA)


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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 09:03:45 -0200
From: PY5LF <py5lf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ChubuSat-3
Message-ID:
<CAAy53m5iUCP6y1ncw=3QsvMN93Hq=tdtzxnsow4indnCJFMTnw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Very good signal of ChubuSat-3 over here .
https://youtu.be/1rsLvcvvjCM
73


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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 08:12:02 -0500
From: jeffory broughton <jefforybroughton@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Gaasfet xistor
Message-ID:
<CACm2je2AQJxNWDLfP6hoTNpTj-=LkfBoODy7JJHVb6kmos9muw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I will bet a mfg1402 will work like a million bucks. Also check the 78l0 5
volt regulator.

jeff broughton


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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 14:59:58 +0000 (UTC)
From: Fer <mhz4464@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Good HamTv signal from ISS
Message-ID:
<1920356822.5476628.1455893998189.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hello
despite the low elevation pass ISS HamTv signal at 2395 Mhz was quite good,
no audio?
https://www.dropbox.com/s/cnhm0d9hwhfaij6/ISS%20hamtv%2019feb16%20Tim_Peake.jp
g?dl=0

Preparing now the full video upload on youtube
73 Fer IW1DTU

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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 15:33:34 +0000
From: Daniel Cussen <dan@xxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Good HamTv signal from ISS
Message-ID:
<CAF3DnKhEC8XCtL9xGq=beneqrhan_0S+2FsgVYaowFbM6FQakQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Amazingly live video was detected over Australia today, presumably it
was still on over USA!.

Here is a link to the video I received today (in Europe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j183BLrTZd0
No audio was turned on.

It is expected there will be two more video downlinks next week:

Istituto Sobrero, Casale Monferrato, Italy, direct via IK1SLD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-02-25 09:10:55 UTC 40 deg (***)

Norwich Schools, Norwich/East Anglia, UK, direct via GB2CNS
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be GB1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-02-26 14:43:39 UTC 29 deg (***)

>From now on we should expect a video downlink all over the world,
before and after any European school contact, and possibly any time.

I have posted more information on the dedicated HAMTV mailing list:
https://ca.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/HamTV/

It is likely USA Hams should be able to receive video during the setup
pre-european contact. There is info on the equipment recommended here:
http://www.ariss-eu.org/columbus/ham-video
Please ask if you have any questions. I managed to receive a signal
before with just a dish handheld without any rotator. Ideally we would
like a group of 4+ USA ground stations spaced apart to give 10+
minutes of constant video, or if you can get a commercial 2m or 3m
tracking dish that would need less ground stations.


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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 15:46:51 +0000 (UTC)
From: Fer <mhz4464@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "dan@xxxx.xxxx <dan@xxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Good HamTv signal from ISS
Message-ID:
<288547518.5438577.1455896811972.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

 Hello?
here what I recorded, no audio
ISS 19 feb 2016 14:22-14:32 UTC Tim Peake video live - no audio


| ? |
| ? |  | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| ISS 19 feb 2016 14:22-14:32 UTC Tim Peake video live... |
|  |
| View on www.youtube.com | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
| ? |


73 Fer IW1DTU    On Friday, February 19, 2016 3:34 PM, Daniel Cussen
<dan@xxxx.xxx> wrote:


 Amazingly live video was detected over Australia today, presumably it
was still on over USA!.

Here is a link to the video I received today (in Europe)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j183BLrTZd0
No audio was turned on.

It is expected there will be two more video downlinks next week:

Istituto Sobrero, Casale Monferrato, Italy, direct via IK1SLD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Contact is a go for: Thu 2016-02-25 09:10:55 UTC 40 deg (***)

Norwich Schools, Norwich/East Anglia, UK, direct via GB2CNS
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be GB1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-02-26 14:43:39 UTC 29 deg (***)

>From now on we should expect a video downlink all over the world,
before and after any European school contact, and possibly any time.

I have posted more information on the dedicated HAMTV mailing list:
https://ca.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/HamTV/

It is likely USA Hams should be able to receive video during the setup
pre-european contact. There is info on the equipment recommended here:
http://www.ariss-eu.org/columbus/ham-video
Please ask if you have any questions. I managed to receive a signal
before with just a dish handheld without any rotator. Ideally we would
like a group of 4+ USA ground stations spaced apart to give 10+
minutes of constant video, or if you can get a commercial 2m or 3m
tracking dish that would need less ground stations.
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




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Message: 14
Date: Sat, 20 Feb 2016 00:54:46 +0900
From: "Jeff A. Boyd" <the2belo@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Decoding Chubusat2/3 telemetry
Message-ID: <20160220005446.F57A.63087B45@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII"

Of course, I meant Chubusat 2 and 3. Oops.

On Fri, 19 Feb 2016 10:11:11 +0900, "J. Boyd (JR2TTS)"
<the2belo@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:

> I'm of the understanding that the Chubusat-2/3 satellites that were just
> launched on Feb. 17 will be transmitting telemetry data in 9600 baud
> GMSK, in KISS protocol.
>
> With satellites in the past there have been programs written to decode
> and save this data in .kss format, but I can't seem to locate any such
> programs for the Chubusats. Does it require its own program, or is there
> a general one that would be used for this purpose?
>
> I have a brand spanking new FUNCube Dongle Pro+ and want to DECODE ALL
> THE THINGS!


--
J. Boyd, JR2TTS/NI3B
the2belo@xxx.xxxxxxx.xx.xx
http://www.flickr.com/photos/the2belo/
http://www.qrz.com/db/JR2TTS
Twitter: @xxxxxxxx



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Message: 15
Date: Fri, 19 Feb 2016 11:38:01 -0500
From: James Lea - WX4TV <james@xxxxx.xxx>
To: David G0MRF via Amsat-Bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] KM4IPF
Message-ID: <4237A4D7-A07C-4424-B1E9-37D3025F6AA7@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Thanks to everyone who worked hope on S0-50 just now. She is at ODU in
Norfolk, Virginia doing demonstrations for kids who are coming to tour the
engineering school. She will be back on FO 29 in just a little bit probably
with the callsign K for AMG. Please forgive any typos Siri is typing this
for me!

James Lea
Sent from my iPhone

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