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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Ceuta & Melilla and Gibraltar this summer (EC4TR Luis)
   2. Re: Ceuta & Melilla and Gibraltar this summer (M5AKA)
   3. Re: Station decisions re. upcoming Geosync bird (Joe)
   4. Re: Station decisions re. upcoming Geosync bird (Paul Stoetzer)
   5. Re: Station decisions re. upcoming Geosync bird (Paul Stoetzer)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 11:13:06 +0100
From: EC4TR Luis <ec4tr.luis@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ceuta & Melilla and Gibraltar this summer
Message-ID: <56F3BDB2.9070807@xxxxx.xxx>
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"Spain licenses are not recognized by the colony"  OMG, Gibraltarians making
friends as usual:-(

73 Luis
EC4TR



El 23/03/2016 a las 23:25, F?lix P?ez escribi?:
> Hi all,
>
> I am very sorry to inform you that after requesting formal permission to
use VHF/UHF HAM satellite band from Gibraltar (by using the avaliable
Gibraltar Regulatory Autorithy form they have send me by email to fill),
they have denied me the permission to broadcast from its territory. They
have told me that Spain licenses are not recognized by the colony. This may
not affect other nationalities, so if you have a license from another
country You can try if you visit the colony.
>
> Anyway, my main goal is to activate the autonomous city of Ceuta (DXCC
entity Ceuta & Melilla) and all seems to be fine for this. I still can not
specify the exact date but It will be in mid-August (probably between days
12-21). It is very possible that I will only be able to be in the city  one
or two days, but because this visit if flexible to me I will try to do it
one day with a good pass of SO-50 and Fox 1A (and maybe Lilacsat if it is
active).
>
> 73s,
>
> Felix
>
>
> De: amsat-bb-request@xxxxx.xxx
> Enviado: martes, 22 de marzo de 2016 22:34
> Para: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Asunto: AMSAT-BB Digest, Vol 11, Issue 88
>
> Send AMSAT-BB mailing list submissions to
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> Today's Topics:
>
>     1. Coax jumper lenths -- Math help please. (Tom Schuessler)
>     2. FT-847 Problems (Richard Lawn)
>     3. AMSAT @ Scottsdale AZ hamfest, 19 March 2016 - report
>        (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
>     4. inline Dynamic Compressor for FT-817 (Kevin M)
>     5. SatPC32 & MDS RC1-Y Rotor Interface? (Dennis Pitts)
>     6. Security Survey - Reminder (Brandon Shirley)
>     7. Re: inline Dynamic Compressor for FT-817 (EC4TR Luis)
>     8. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-03-21 17:00   UTC
>        (AJ9N@xxx.xxxx
>     9. Re;  rover trips to nevada (Kevin M)
>    10. UX 910 1.2 GHZ MODULE FOR IC 910H (jeffory broughton)
>    11. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-03-22 16:00  UTC
>        (AJ9N@xxx.xxxx
>    12. IRLP node interference to FO-29 (Kevin M)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 17:33:35 -0500
> From: "Tom Schuessler" <tjschuessler@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Coax jumper lenths -- Math help please.
> Message-ID: <002101d182f8$8b020240$a10606c0$@xxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain;            charset="us-ascii"
>
> Hello all,
>
> I have a question for those of you much more experienced than I.  It relates
> to a satellite antenna installation I am working to accomplish this Spring.
>
> I have two cross polarity yagis, one  for 145 and the other for 435.  Each
> of these antennas has two separate feeds for the H and V polarities.  The
> two meter antenna has two feeds, both at about 14 inches from the end of the
> antenna boom.  Jumpers from the connectors will be secured to the very end
> of the boom and trail off to main feed line connectors below the AZ rotor.
> The mount point of this boom is 5' 2" from the end of the boom with the
> driven element.  The 70CM yagi is an end mount but the two connection points
> are offset from each other.  One is 17 inches from the back end of the boom
> and the other is 24.  Coax jumpers will again be attached to the boom and
> will trail off to connections below my AZ rotor.
>
> I will be using two separate rotors, (A G5400 or G5500 is not in the
> paycheck right now), an elevation rotor with a 4'2" boom to mount the two
> antennas and an azimuth rotor which will have a probably 2' maximum mast
> from there to the EL rotor mount.  All this will mount to an only half
> extended push-up-pole, which is ground mounted but attached to the apex of
> my single story house.  Total height off the ground will probably be 20 feet
> when all is said and done.  I will be running 4 runs of not that flexible
> 9913 up to just below the AZ rotor and from there want to attach jumpers of
> more flexible LMR 400 Flex to make the runs out to the antennas mentioned
> above.
>
> My question is for your more math savvy or just plain experienced folks, is
> how long should the jumpers be in total for each antenna to allow for a 360
> degree rotation and 180 degree elevation shift based on the parameters I
> described above???  I was guessing 10 to 11 foot jumpers from antennas to
> the barrel connectors just below the AZ rotor but wanted to make sure that
> that was long enough, or if they could be shorter, say maybe 9 feet.  Of
> course the 70 CM antenna with it's one feed point 7 inches further up the
> antenna would need to be that much longer I guess.  I also understand that
> the 2 meter swing will be greater because of the more center mount rather
> than the end mount on the 70 cm antenna.
>
> Clear as mud???
>
> This is new territory for me so I am wanting to make sure that all the
> decisions are right before I need to do things over, and over, and over to
> get it right.  I can take some pictures if someone needs to see what I
> described.  Email me and I will give you my cell if you would rather talk or
> ask questions verbally.
>
> Thank you to the group in advance for your help and thoughts.
>
> Tom Schuessler, N5HYP
> n5hyp@xxxx.xxx
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 19:52:17 -0400
> From: Richard Lawn <rjlawn@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] FT-847 Problems
> Message-ID:
>                 
<CADQmrTGqvy6GkkR_BWWob--6CA0phgD-wEwB5qZ8wRGLqM85+w@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Make sure you are using a Null modem serial cable not a straight through
> cable. 9600 baud and it should work. If you still have problems try a USB
> to serial adapter that uses the FTDI chip set.
> Rick, W2JAZ
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 03:31:55 +0000
> From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
> To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT @ Scottsdale AZ hamfest, 19 March 2016 -
>                  report
> Message-ID:
>                 
<CAN6TEUcn4Uiuaa6ziKdYK3Pq10rGJpckmi8qgi-H5_t4ZJuT6g@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi!
>
> I had an AMSAT table at the Scottsdale Amateur Radio Club's "Springfest"
> hamfest, held in a church parking lot yesterday (Saturday, 19 March)
> morning. This hamfest is one of the 3 major hamfests for the Phoenix area
> in the non-summer season, and the good weather helped to bring the crowds
> out. Lots of buyers and sellers, and lots of interest in AMSAT and amateur
> satellites.
>
> With the launches of AO-85 and the 9 Chinese amateur satellites in the past
> 6 months, many hams are taking a closer look at this part of the hobby. For
> some, the recent launches and projects currently in the pipeline are
> bringing some back to the satellites. Along with talking about satellites,
> many copies of AMSAT's "Getting Started with Amateur Satellites" flew off
> my AMSAT table. Demonstrations, whether at 6am (1300 UTC) or 11am (1800
> UTC), had nice crowds.
>
> It was nice to have AO-85 available during the morning, as SO-50 was not
> passing by during the morning. I also had 4 other satellites that were used
> for demonstrations - AO-73, XW-2A, XW-2C, and XW-2F. The three XW-2
> satellites were passing by in the first couple of hours, and AO-73 and
> AO-85 came by later in the morning. For all of these passes, I used my
> SDRplay SDR receiver for the downlinks, connected to an 8-inch Windows10
> tablet and HDSDR software running on the tablet.
>
> As I have seen at other recent events, using an SDR receiver makes for more
> conversations - and not just in the context of working satellites. With all
> of these satellites employing a 70cm uplink and 2m downlink, I didn't have
> to worry so much about the sunlight making the tablet's LCD panel
> unreadable. Once I set my downlink frequency on the tablet, and for AO-85
> activate AFC in HDSDR to track the downlink, I only had to worry about
> using the wheel on a Bluetooth mouse for fine-tuning. Despite some QRM in
> the area of the hamfest site, northeast of a nearby airport, the SDRplay
> did a decent job hearing all of these downlinks. For AO-73 and AO-85, I was
> able to play back the RF recordings I made with HDSDR later at home, so I
> could upload telemetry to each satellite's telemetry server from those
> passes. By the way, HDSDR's recordings do a much better job picking up
> AO-73 telemetry than I ever saw when I used the FUNcube Dashboard to
> directly receive the telemetry and then upload the data to the FUNcube data
> warehouse server. Same thing for copying AO-85 telemetry - HDSDR's RF
> recordings do better for capturing the data than I saw when using the
> FoxTelem software to directly control my FUNcube Dongle Pro+.
>
> For those who worked WD9EWK during those demonstrations - THANK YOU! The
> demonstrations make a positive impression on this part of the hobby for the
> crowds. My mockup of the AO-85 satellite - a 4-inch cube of wood, with two
> whips representing the antennas coming out of two sides - also helps to
> reinforce that small satellites can do more than "beep" in orbit. AO-73 and
> AO-85, in particular, are great examples of what we can do with small
> satellites. I have uploaded my log to Logbook of the World from these
> demonstrations, and am happy to send QSL cards to anyone who would like one
> for QSOs during the hamfest (just e-mail me with the QSO details - no need
> to send me a card and self-addressed stamped envelope).
>
> Thanks again, and 73!
>
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @xxxxxx
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 11:48:16 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Kevin M <n4ufo@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] inline Dynamic Compressor for FT-817
> Message-ID:
>                 
<1526990753.2214039.1458560896259.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Hi all. I am curious about the little dynamic compressor kits sold out of
Germany to go inline with the hand mic of an FT-817 or similar style Yaesu
radios. http://www.box73.com/product/4? I know that compressors are
generally not used when operating on satellite transponders, but I was
wondering if given only 5 watts output (or less) it might not be useful. If
anyone has any experience using one on these on the linear birds, I would
like to hear about your experience. Did you use a stock Yaesu hand mic with
it, headset or what? How did it perform, etc.? Replies on or off list welcome.
>
> If anyone has one that would like to part with, I would be interested as
well! =^)
>
> 73, Kevin N4UFO
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 5
> Date: Sun, 20 Mar 2016 20:09:05 -0500
> From: Dennis Pitts <drsurfacert@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 & MDS RC1-Y Rotor Interface?
> Message-ID: <BLU408-EAS147D135ACC198DF53C6F2C6AA8F0@xxx.xxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Just returned back to the Sats in November (have not been on the since the
Oscar 13 days). I see things have changed a lot. Seems like I am now trying
to catch up. At the moment I am using fixed elevation antennas, but would
like to have computer control of the azimuth to help out and/or see if that
is better than me trying to control manually.
>
> I would like to know if SatPC32 will work with the MDS RC1-Y (DCU-1
protocol) to accomplish control of the azimuth rotor (Yaesu G-800SA)?
>
> Thanks for any info or help,
> Dennis
> KK4CF
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 15:38:32 +0000
> From: Brandon Shirley <Brandon.Shirley@xxx.xxx.xxx>
> To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Security Survey - Reminder
> Message-ID: <3c4115d6b23b421f93e66f50194dd764@xx.xxxxx.xxx.xxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> To whom it may concern,
> To whom it may concern,
>
> This is a reminder email for a Security Survey. I sent you this email
because I thought you might have relevant experience in developing space
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>
> Please note that the link is anonymous, so you are getting this reminder
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>
> The second part of the survey has background questions that will give
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>
> You can you use the link below to access the Security Survey.
>
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>
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You must enter a valid email address to be considered for survey drawings or
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>
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>
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>
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Intent, contact Brandon Shirley via email at b.l.s@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx or
contact Utah State University's Internal Review Board administrator at (435)
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>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 17:21:18 +0100
> From: EC4TR Luis <ec4tr.luis@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] inline Dynamic Compressor for FT-817
> Message-ID: <56F01F7E.4010909@xxxxx.xxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi Kevin
> I?m using this similar one with FT-817
> http://www.box73.com/product/1
> it works great, the adio improves and get better punch, also have voice
> keyer.
> Very useful for me when I make SOTA.
> 73 Luis
> EC4TR
>
>
> El 21/03/2016 a las 12:48, Kevin M via AMSAT-BB escribi?:
>> Hi all. I am curious about the little dynamic compressor kits sold out of
Germany to go inline with the hand mic of an FT-817 or similar style Yaesu
radios. http://www.box73.com/product/4  I know that compressors are
generally not used when operating on satellite transponders, but I was
wondering if given only 5 watts output (or less) it might not be useful. If
anyone has any experience using one on these on the linear birds, I would
like to hear about your experience. Did you use a stock Yaesu hand mic with
it, headset or what? How did it perform, etc.? Replies on or off list welcome.
>>
>> If anyone has one that would like to part with, I would be interested as
well! =^)
>>
>> 73, Kevin N4UFO
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 13:01:28 -0400
> From: AJ9N@xxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-03-21
>                  17:00     UTC
> Message-ID: <1b80a6.eaace35.442182e8@xxx.xxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
> Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-03-21  17:00 UTC
>
> Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:
>
> Hirano Junior High School, Kobe, Japan, direct via  8N370H
> The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
> The scheduled  astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN (***)
> Contact is a go for: Mon 2016-03-28  11:07:49 UTC 56 deg  (***)
>
> ****************************************************************************
> **
>
> The  next window to submit a proposal for an upcoming contact is now open.
> The  window is open from 2016-02-15 to 2016-04-15 and would be for contacts
> between  2017-01-01 and 2017-06-30.
>
> Check out the ARISS website  http://www.ariss.org/ or the ARRL website
> http://www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact for full  details.
>
> ****************************************************************************
> **
>
> ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.
> ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send
> your  reports to aj9n@xxxxx.xxx or  aj9n@xxx.xxx.
> ****************************************************************************
> ***
>
> All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.
>
> ****************************************************************************
> ***
>
> Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
> not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to
> http://www.ariss.org/
>
> Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.
>
> ****************************************************************************
> Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?
>
> If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete
> details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.
>
>
> http://www.ariss-eu.org/
>
> If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
> provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> ****************************************************************************
> ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
>
> schools:
>
> Gaston ON4WF with 121
> Satoshi 7M3TJZ with  116
> Francesco IK?WGF with  116
>
> ****************************************************************************
> The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date
> webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are
> additional
> ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.
>
> Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own
> orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed
> time.
> All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8061 date
> and
> time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
>
> The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-03-21 17:00 UTC.
> (***)
>
> Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and
> questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
> instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
>
> Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1037.
> Each school counts as 1  event.
> Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1002.
> Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
> Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.
>
> A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
> file.
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
>
> Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
> Arkansas,  Delaware, Rhode Island, South Dakota,
> Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam,  Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin
> Islands.
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> QSL  information may be found at:
> http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html
>
> ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS
>
> ****************************************************************************
> The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-03-19 05:30 UTC.
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
>
> Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
> Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
> .rtf
>
> Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf
>
> Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts
>
> https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
> ****************************************************************************
> Exp.  46 on orbit
> Tim Kopra KE5UDN
> Timothy Peake KG5BVI
> Yuri Malenchenko  RK3DUP
>
> ****************************************************************************
>
> 73,
> Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
> One of the ARISS operation team  mentors
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Mon, 21 Mar 2016 19:16:00 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Kevin M <n4ufo@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Re;  rover trips to nevada
> Message-ID:
>                 
<954460338.2583591.1458587760125.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> Thank you to those that sent me tips on who the 'other Nevada rover' might
be. I have in fact found out who it is and we have had a very lengthy and
productive chat. He lives in Nevada, has a motor home and has plans to take
a weekend to go operate from a rare grid not terribly far from his home. He
is not a new sat op, but 'grid roving' is a new aspect he is in the process
figuring out. He has asked for my help on working out a few details as to
gear, logging, etc. I am only too happy to assist. I will let him announce
his own plans, as that is only polite, but I will say that if everything
goes as planned, our schedules will not conflict. He should be operating the
weekend BEFORE I arrive in Nevada, with him wrapping up the same day I cross
the state line. =^)
>
> Hopefully between the two of us, we can work everyone that needs that grid
(DM19). And hey, if he works everyone who presently needs it, I already have
another spot I can go. =^D My only regret may be that I won't be home to
work him myself... but I'm really glad he is going!
>
>
> Also, I will be operating with my portable gear as much as possible during
April, in order to get well acquainted with my new gear and work out any
bugs. If you hear me on, feel free to give me a holler. I might even work
from a few nearby grids for anyone that needs them.
>
> Again, I will be posting info about my trip to a special QRZ page as well
as sending out last minute updates on a special twitter account. Use the
link: https://www.qrz.com/db/N4UFO/P or look up N4UFO/P on QRZ (must add the
/P). The link to my twitter is there and you do not have to have a twitter
account to watch it. I also plan to have APRS going during my trip and links
will be on that page when ready to go.
>
>
> 73 to all and will be looking for all you grid chasers on the birds!?
Kevin N4UFO
> ?
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 11:19:23 -0400
> From: jeffory broughton <jefforybroughton@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] UX 910 1.2 GHZ MODULE FOR IC 910H
> Message-ID:
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> A while back I was looking for a ux 910
> 1.2 ghz module for my ic 910h to get ready for 3 new L band sats this year.
> I ended up with an extra one in its original box.
> Installed it in my 910 and it tested to factory specs. I decided I don't
> need an extra one sitting on the shelf.i am selling it for what I paid for
> it.It was not cheap,but close to what it sold for originally. $499 free
> ship.
> WB8RJY.JEFF
> 517 202 7862 cell
>
> jeff broughton
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 12:19:23 -0400
> From: AJ9N@xxx.xxx
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-03-22
>                  16:00     UTC
> Message-ID: <242cb1.466f1988.4422ca8b@xxx.xxx>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
>
>
>
> Quick list of scheduled contacts  and events:
>
> Hirano Junior High School, Kobe, Japan, direct via  8N370H
> The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
> The scheduled  astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN
> Contact is a go for: Mon 2016-03-28 11:07:49  UTC 56 deg
>
> National Soaring Museum, Elmira, New York, telebridge  via IK1SLD (***)
> The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS (***)
> The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI (***)
> Contact is a go  for: Fri 2016-04-01 18:34:03 UTC 34 deg  (***)
>
>
> ****************************************************************************
> **
>
> The  next window to submit a proposal for an upcoming contact is now open.
> The  window is open from 2016-02-15 to 2016-04-15 and would be for contacts
> between  2017-01-01 and 2017-06-30.
>
> Check out the ARISS website  http://www.ariss.org/ or the ARRL website
> http://www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact for full  details.
>
> ****************************************************************************
> **
>
> ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.
> ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send
> your  reports to aj9n@xxxxx.xxx or  aj9n@xxx.xxx.
> ****************************************************************************
> ***
>
> All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.
>
> ****************************************************************************
> ***
>
> Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
> not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to
> http://www.ariss.org/
>
> Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.
>
> ****************************************************************************
> Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?
>
> If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete
> details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.
>
>
> http://www.ariss-eu.org/
>
> If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
> provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
> ****************************************************************************
> ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
>
> schools:
>
> Gaston ON4WF with 121
> Satoshi 7M3TJZ with  116
> Francesco IK?WGF with  116
>
> ****************************************************************************
> The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date
> webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are
> additional
> ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.
>
> Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own
> orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed
> time.
> All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8061 date
> and
> time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
>
> The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-03-22 16:00 UTC.
> (***)
>
> Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and
> questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
> instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
>
> Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1037.
> Each school counts as 1  event.
> Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1002.
> Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
> Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.
>
> A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
> file.
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
>
> Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
> Arkansas,  Delaware, Rhode Island, South Dakota,
> Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam,  Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin
> Islands.
>
> ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>
> QSL  information may be found at:
> http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html
>
> ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS
>
> ****************************************************************************
> The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-03-19 05:30 UTC.
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
>
> Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
> Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
> .rtf
>
> Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf
>
> Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts
>
> https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
> ****************************************************************************
> Exp.  46 on orbit
> Tim Kopra KE5UDN
> Timothy Peake KG5BVI
> Yuri Malenchenko  RK3DUP
>
> ****************************************************************************
>
> 73,
> Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
> One of the ARISS operation team  mentors
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 22 Mar 2016 21:33:54 +0000 (UTC)
> From: Kevin M <n4ufo@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: [amsat-bb] IRLP node interference to FO-29
> Message-ID:
>                 
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
>
> On today's 1915-1930z pass of FO-29, there was an FM signal coming over
the transponder... really loud, S9 at times. I was able to tune in and
listen to a net and caught the callsign of the station conducting the net
who was in Houston. It was not necessarily his station and/or node that was
the problem, the signal could have been coming from any number of nodes
across the US that might have been connected.
>
> I am having limited success communicating with the individual who's
callsign I heard. I got one reply from his phone in response to a message I
sent through the IRLP website. He is apparently not getting any e-mails from
me directly despite being the same e-mail address. I'm trying to confirm
what reflector & channel(?) he was connected to and then see if there is any
way to research with IRLP to find out what other nodes may have been
connected at the time. You know, detective work.
>
>
> Does anyone have experience with this? with IRLP? Anyone know how to
research the stations on the IRLP side of things or who to contact? Has
anyone there been receptive in the past regarding resolution of interference
with the sats? It's all very frustrating as I don't see any central point of
contact on their website and not getting any more communication from the one
guy I heard in Houston doesn't help either. I made every effort to be polite
and respectful in my communications (honey versus vinegar), but with some
people that just equates to a license to 'blow you off'. =^)
>
> Thanks in advance for any help... prefer replies off list. 73!? Kevin N4UFO
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 12:08:28 +0000 (UTC)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: EC4TR Luis <ec4tr.luis@xxxxx.xxx>, 	"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ceuta & Melilla and Gibraltar this summer
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The IARU Region 1 Treasurer Eva Thiemann HB9FPM visited Gibraltar last
August. She noted that:

"Gibraltar is not part of CEPT and the authorities do not issue reciprocal
licences for HF operation. But for some time it is possible to get a licence
for operating on 6 and 2 m." - apparently not 70 cm.

The Gibraltar Amateur Radio Society has some visitor information on their
website at
http://www.gibradio.net/visiting.htm

There are still many countries in the world where reciprocal operating is
either not permitted or is difficult to obtain.

73 Trevor M5AKA





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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 07:31:46 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Station decisions re. upcoming Geosync bird
Message-ID: <56F3DE32.4020505@xxx.xxx>
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Full Duplex on a Geo Bird,,,,?

What is the delay lag time on such a distance?

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 3/23/2016 11:17 PM, John Toscano wrote:
> Details on the satellite are still quite sensitive, but details on ground
> station requirements are much more readily discussed due to the lack of
> ITAR restrictions there.
>
> One approach to the ground station would be to add a 5G and a 10G
> transverter to your existing radios, using them for IF radios. Though many
> 5G and 10G transverters use a 144 MHz IF, some are available with a 432 MHz
> IF. Getting one of the two transverters with a 432 MHz IF and one with a
> 144 MHz IF would probably facilitate full-duplex operation, unless you have
> two 144 MHz IF radios available.
>
> This sort of approach might be preferred by an operator who plans to add
> those two bands to BOTH terrestrial and satellite operation. But if you
> were adding these two bands for satellite use only, there is significant
> opportunity for financial savings. You only need a 5G transmitting
> converter and a 10G receiving converter. On the receiving end, a modest
> satellite dish and an inexpensive LNBF designed for for satellite TV will
> convert the satellite downlink to a signal somewhere near 700 MHz, which is
> easily within the RF range of many software-defined radios. The ground
> station team has been hoping that an under-$20 satellite TV PLL-LNBF
> coupled with an inexpensive RTL-SDR dongle MIGHT suffice for the heart of
> the 10G receiver. For the uplink, it is possible that a $300-ish HackRF One
> SDR (which can transmit at up to 6 GHz), coupled with appropriate filtering
> and a suitable power amplifier might form the heart of an inexpensive 5G
> transmitter. The ground station team is looking at other, more expensive
> solutions, as well, and we can't yet promise that the rock-bottom-price
> solutions will work until they have been well-tested.
>
> In any event, digital modes are going to be the order of the day, so if you
> are using a pair of all-mode radios as IF's, they will need to support a
> digital interface to a computer. That's one of the reasons why we are so
> excited about the possibilities of SDR to get us from RF to digital data
> and back at affordable prices.
>
> \I hope that helps at least a little bit.
>
> John Toscano, W0JT/5
>
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Peter Klein <pklein@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> I've been casually following the discussion of the upcoming geosynchronous
>> satellite.  I currently have a Mode B , J and A analog setup that I've used
>> on Oscar 10 and 13, and on some LEOs. This includes crossed Yagis on 2m and
>> 70cm, and an all-mode radio for those bands.  LEOs and flying mailboxes no
>> longer interest me, so in recent years that setup has only been used for
>> occasional terrestrial VHF SSB/CW, plus local repeater activity.
>>
>> I will need to make some decisions on my general station setup soon.
>> Antenna space is limited, and I want to take the possibility of the geosync
>> bird into consideration.  From what I've read and seen on video, the
>> uplinks and downlinks to the satellite will be microwave.  The satellite
>> track will make a figure-8 pattern in the sky, but I don't know how large
>> that pattern will be at my location. My 144 and 440 MHz antennas will not
>> be compatible with the new bird.  But will the 144/440 radios be useful,
>> perhaps as an IF after the digital gymnastics happen in a converter?
>>
>> So, my questions:
>>
>> - Are any "dummy" Keplarian elements available for the geosynch bird's
>> planned (or likely) orbit? That would let me do some "what-iffing."
>> - If the above are not available, could someone tell me the approximate
>> range of azimuth and elevation I might expect from CN87 (Seattle area)?
>> - What is the physical size of the required dishes?
>> - Will the radio for the new bird be self-contained, or require another
>> radio as an IF?  If the latter, what frequency band or bands are being
>> contemplated for the IF?
>>
>> If I've asked things that are too sensitive to discuss right now, let me
>> know and I'll shut up.  :-)
>>
>> 73,
>> --Peter, KD7MW
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:35:51 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Station decisions re. upcoming Geosync bird
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240-280 ms

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> Full Duplex on a Geo Bird,,,,?
>
> What is the delay lag time on such a distance?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>
> On 3/23/2016 11:17 PM, John Toscano wrote:
>>
>> Details on the satellite are still quite sensitive, but details on ground
>> station requirements are much more readily discussed due to the lack of
>> ITAR restrictions there.
>>
>> One approach to the ground station would be to add a 5G and a 10G
>> transverter to your existing radios, using them for IF radios. Though many
>> 5G and 10G transverters use a 144 MHz IF, some are available with a 432
>> MHz
>> IF. Getting one of the two transverters with a 432 MHz IF and one with a
>> 144 MHz IF would probably facilitate full-duplex operation, unless you
>> have
>> two 144 MHz IF radios available.
>>
>> This sort of approach might be preferred by an operator who plans to add
>> those two bands to BOTH terrestrial and satellite operation. But if you
>> were adding these two bands for satellite use only, there is significant
>> opportunity for financial savings. You only need a 5G transmitting
>> converter and a 10G receiving converter. On the receiving end, a modest
>> satellite dish and an inexpensive LNBF designed for for satellite TV will
>> convert the satellite downlink to a signal somewhere near 700 MHz, which
>> is
>> easily within the RF range of many software-defined radios. The ground
>> station team has been hoping that an under-$20 satellite TV PLL-LNBF
>> coupled with an inexpensive RTL-SDR dongle MIGHT suffice for the heart of
>> the 10G receiver. For the uplink, it is possible that a $300-ish HackRF
>> One
>> SDR (which can transmit at up to 6 GHz), coupled with appropriate
>> filtering
>> and a suitable power amplifier might form the heart of an inexpensive 5G
>> transmitter. The ground station team is looking at other, more expensive
>> solutions, as well, and we can't yet promise that the rock-bottom-price
>> solutions will work until they have been well-tested.
>>
>> In any event, digital modes are going to be the order of the day, so if
>> you
>> are using a pair of all-mode radios as IF's, they will need to support a
>> digital interface to a computer. That's one of the reasons why we are so
>> excited about the possibilities of SDR to get us from RF to digital data
>> and back at affordable prices.
>>
>> \I hope that helps at least a little bit.
>>
>> John Toscano, W0JT/5
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Peter Klein <pklein@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been casually following the discussion of the upcoming
>>> geosynchronous
>>> satellite.  I currently have a Mode B , J and A analog setup that I've
>>> used
>>> on Oscar 10 and 13, and on some LEOs. This includes crossed Yagis on 2m
>>> and
>>> 70cm, and an all-mode radio for those bands.  LEOs and flying mailboxes
>>> no
>>> longer interest me, so in recent years that setup has only been used for
>>> occasional terrestrial VHF SSB/CW, plus local repeater activity.
>>>
>>> I will need to make some decisions on my general station setup soon.
>>> Antenna space is limited, and I want to take the possibility of the
>>> geosync
>>> bird into consideration.  From what I've read and seen on video, the
>>> uplinks and downlinks to the satellite will be microwave.  The satellite
>>> track will make a figure-8 pattern in the sky, but I don't know how large
>>> that pattern will be at my location. My 144 and 440 MHz antennas will not
>>> be compatible with the new bird.  But will the 144/440 radios be useful,
>>> perhaps as an IF after the digital gymnastics happen in a converter?
>>>
>>> So, my questions:
>>>
>>> - Are any "dummy" Keplarian elements available for the geosynch bird's
>>> planned (or likely) orbit? That would let me do some "what-iffing."
>>> - If the above are not available, could someone tell me the approximate
>>> range of azimuth and elevation I might expect from CN87 (Seattle area)?
>>> - What is the physical size of the required dishes?
>>> - Will the radio for the new bird be self-contained, or require another
>>> radio as an IF?  If the latter, what frequency band or bands are being
>>> contemplated for the IF?
>>>
>>> If I've asked things that are too sensitive to discuss right now, let me
>>> know and I'll shut up.  :-)
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> --Peter, KD7MW
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 08:39:20 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Station decisions re. upcoming Geosync bird
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Remember that AO-10, AO-13, and AO-40 at apogee were all at about
geosynchronous altitude or higher, so hams have experience operating
full duplex with such a delay.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:31 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> Full Duplex on a Geo Bird,,,,?
>
> What is the delay lag time on such a distance?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>
> On 3/23/2016 11:17 PM, John Toscano wrote:
>>
>> Details on the satellite are still quite sensitive, but details on ground
>> station requirements are much more readily discussed due to the lack of
>> ITAR restrictions there.
>>
>> One approach to the ground station would be to add a 5G and a 10G
>> transverter to your existing radios, using them for IF radios. Though many
>> 5G and 10G transverters use a 144 MHz IF, some are available with a 432
>> MHz
>> IF. Getting one of the two transverters with a 432 MHz IF and one with a
>> 144 MHz IF would probably facilitate full-duplex operation, unless you
>> have
>> two 144 MHz IF radios available.
>>
>> This sort of approach might be preferred by an operator who plans to add
>> those two bands to BOTH terrestrial and satellite operation. But if you
>> were adding these two bands for satellite use only, there is significant
>> opportunity for financial savings. You only need a 5G transmitting
>> converter and a 10G receiving converter. On the receiving end, a modest
>> satellite dish and an inexpensive LNBF designed for for satellite TV will
>> convert the satellite downlink to a signal somewhere near 700 MHz, which
>> is
>> easily within the RF range of many software-defined radios. The ground
>> station team has been hoping that an under-$20 satellite TV PLL-LNBF
>> coupled with an inexpensive RTL-SDR dongle MIGHT suffice for the heart of
>> the 10G receiver. For the uplink, it is possible that a $300-ish HackRF
>> One
>> SDR (which can transmit at up to 6 GHz), coupled with appropriate
>> filtering
>> and a suitable power amplifier might form the heart of an inexpensive 5G
>> transmitter. The ground station team is looking at other, more expensive
>> solutions, as well, and we can't yet promise that the rock-bottom-price
>> solutions will work until they have been well-tested.
>>
>> In any event, digital modes are going to be the order of the day, so if
>> you
>> are using a pair of all-mode radios as IF's, they will need to support a
>> digital interface to a computer. That's one of the reasons why we are so
>> excited about the possibilities of SDR to get us from RF to digital data
>> and back at affordable prices.
>>
>> \I hope that helps at least a little bit.
>>
>> John Toscano, W0JT/5
>>
>> On Wed, Mar 23, 2016 at 7:44 PM, Peter Klein <pklein@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I've been casually following the discussion of the upcoming
>>> geosynchronous
>>> satellite.  I currently have a Mode B , J and A analog setup that I've
>>> used
>>> on Oscar 10 and 13, and on some LEOs. This includes crossed Yagis on 2m
>>> and
>>> 70cm, and an all-mode radio for those bands.  LEOs and flying mailboxes
>>> no
>>> longer interest me, so in recent years that setup has only been used for
>>> occasional terrestrial VHF SSB/CW, plus local repeater activity.
>>>
>>> I will need to make some decisions on my general station setup soon.
>>> Antenna space is limited, and I want to take the possibility of the
>>> geosync
>>> bird into consideration.  From what I've read and seen on video, the
>>> uplinks and downlinks to the satellite will be microwave.  The satellite
>>> track will make a figure-8 pattern in the sky, but I don't know how large
>>> that pattern will be at my location. My 144 and 440 MHz antennas will not
>>> be compatible with the new bird.  But will the 144/440 radios be useful,
>>> perhaps as an IF after the digital gymnastics happen in a converter?
>>>
>>> So, my questions:
>>>
>>> - Are any "dummy" Keplarian elements available for the geosynch bird's
>>> planned (or likely) orbit? That would let me do some "what-iffing."
>>> - If the above are not available, could someone tell me the approximate
>>> range of azimuth and elevation I might expect from CN87 (Seattle area)?
>>> - What is the physical size of the required dishes?
>>> - Will the radio for the new bird be self-contained, or require another
>>> radio as an IF?  If the latter, what frequency band or bands are being
>>> contemplated for the IF?
>>>
>>> If I've asked things that are too sensitive to discuss right now, let me
>>> know and I'll shut up.  :-)
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> --Peter, KD7MW
>>>
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