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Today's Topics:
1. Re: GEO sats and the future (Paul Stoetzer)
2. Re: FO-29 inteference - help needed @ 1914z (Paul Stoetzer)
3. Re: GEO sats and the future (+ the OUTERNET) (Robert Bruninga)
4. AMSAT magazines (Clifford Appel)
5. Colorado Amateur Satellite net Begins in 1 hour (Skyler F)
6. AMSAT at Radio Society of Tucson (AZ) Hamfest, 26 March 2016
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
7. WD9EWK @ DM52/62 line in New Mexico, Saturday (26 March)
afternoon (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
8. Ground Station Customized Softwares/ Software Development Kit
(shakeel -ur-rehman)
9. Fiberglass Poles for Antenna Mounting? (Scott)
10. Re: Fiberglass Poles for Antenna Mounting? (Daniel Cussen)
11. Re: Ground Station Customized Softwares/ Software Development
Kit (Daniel Cussen)
12. Re: GEO sats and the future (Daniel Cussen)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 14:45:28 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] GEO sats and the future
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Just to summarize - right now, there are three serious HEO/GEO
projects in progress:
1. Phase 4A is the S/X linear transponder payload on the Qatari
Es'HailSat-2 scheduled to launch late this year. AMSAT-DL has done the
work on the amateur payload. It will be in a geostationary orbit that
is not visible to North America (26 degrees east).
2. Phase 4B is a planned C/X digital payload on a U. S. government
satellite launching in the next few years. AMSAT-NA and Virginia Tech
are involved with this. It will be in a geosynchronous, but not
geostationary orbit over the Western Hemisphere.
3. Phase 3E in a Molniya HEO orbit. AMSAT-NA and Virginia Tech are
involved with this. Transponder payloads TBD.
A global network of 3 linked geostationary satellites covering the
whole world would be pretty neat, but I think we'll need people to see
what we as a community can do with each of the two Phase 4
transponders planned right now before the support (read $$$$$) for
such a thing would be available.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 2:30 PM, Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I have been in the hobby for over 12 years now and I've played around a bit
> with working the sats, but I haven't been following the geosynchronous
> satellite activity very closely since I've seen how difficult it is to get
> launches of any kind.
>
> Now that it appears that we are going to get to launch a satellite into
> geosynchronous orbit, I'm curious what the future may hold for that
> particular activity. For example, I think it's fantastic that we will soon
> have a sat in geo orbit, but I'm curious what if any plans are there to
> potentially put up 2 or 3 more geo sats with full time linking between
> them? That has the potential to give the ham radio community global
> communications via satellite.
>
> Any thoughts or news on that front?? Or am I just not informed enough on
> existing plans?
>
> Thanks and 7 3,
>
> Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
> Bend, Oregon
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 15:23:05 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Kevin M <n4ufo@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 inteference - help needed @ 1914z
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Kevin,
Thanks for working to track this down. We need to do everything we can
to educate the amateur radio community so they stay out of the OSCAR
subbands. Interference from people operating IRLP/EchoLink/Cross-band
repeaters/simplex on SO-50 and FO-29 is always a challenge. At least
with FO-29, we have the opportunity to track them down. With SO-50's
PL tone requirement, we only get snippets of the interference in the
squelch tails of other signals.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 2:20 PM, Kevin M via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> UPDATE: Boy that was quick... just got a call from the fellow I am
working with in Houston. He has found the actual signal ON THE AIR on
145.930 MHz in the Houston area and it is currently transmitting with the
content coming from the very UHF repeater I identified. Coincidentally he is
the person responsible for that very same repeater. SO, the interfering
signal has been generally located, now it is a matter of narrowing it down
and figuring out where it is coming from. Possibly a ham has his dual band
radio set to cross band repeat, etc.
>
> Thanks everyone... I guess there is a line on it and hopefully it will be
found. 73, Kevin N4UFO
>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 16:44:47 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] GEO sats and the future (+ the OUTERNET)
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There is one other GEO (possible AMSAT related) project going on. That
is the OUTERNET satellites. These are 6 GEO birds covering the entire
globe that anyone can build a downlink-only receiver using a Rasberry-PI,
a 1m dish, an LNB and a DSP dongle to receive the free content. Their
mission is to deliver WEB content (one way) to anyplace on Earth. Their
satellites exist and are working...
The news is that the content provider is willing to carry ham radio
content too..
We are proposing to make the "system" two-way for hams by having the
OUTERNET content provider tap into the APRS-Internet system and look for
amateur radio related OUTERNET traffic. This way, any ham radio operator
on earth can originate traffic into the APRS-IS system marked-for OUTERNET
either by any of the existing APRS digipeater birds, or terrestrial
IGates, or HF Igates and that traffic will get into the system and into
the OUTERNET downlink.
Hence, a 2-way system for hams and ham-wannabees.
All the pieces are there... we are just trying to see how it could be
used... Again, the remote-user can only originate single packet like
content due to the extremely small APRS input pipe. But the remote user
can Recceive the entire GLOBAL feed of APRS internet traffic... SO how to
use that very unbalanced 2-way pipe is the area that is ripe for
exploration.
Here are the thoughts so far.. http://aprs.org/outnet.html
Bob, WB4APR
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Paul
Stoetzer
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] GEO sats and the future
Just to summarize - right now, there are three serious HEO/GEO projects in
progress:
1. Phase 4A is the S/X linear transponder payload on the Qatari
Es'HailSat-2 scheduled to launch late this year. AMSAT-DL has done the
work on the amateur payload. It will be in a geostationary orbit that is
not visible to North America (26 degrees east).
2. Phase 4B is a planned C/X digital payload on a U. S. government
satellite launching in the next few years. AMSAT-NA and Virginia Tech are
involved with this. It will be in a geosynchronous, but not geostationary
orbit over the Western Hemisphere.
3. Phase 3E in a Molniya HEO orbit. AMSAT-NA and Virginia Tech are
involved with this. Transponder payloads TBD.
A global network of 3 linked geostationary satellites covering the whole
world would be pretty neat, but I think we'll need people to see what we
as a community can do with each of the two Phase 4 transponders planned
right now before the support (read $$$$$) for such a thing would be
available.
73, Paul, N8HM
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 22:53:43 +0000
From: Clifford Appel <cjappel@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT magazines
Message-ID:
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I have the following magazines AMSAT members might be interested in.
They are FREE.
Communications Quarterly - Fall 1990 through Winter 1994
AMSAT Newsletter - June 1975 to December 1979
ORBIT Magazine - 1980 to 1984
If I ship, I only ask postage cost reimbursement.
Cliff, W7CGA/5, Amsat #2811, W7CGA@xxxx.xxx
Alamogordo, NM. 575-434-2699
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 24 Mar 2016 20:03:54 -0400
From: Skyler F <electricity440@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Colorado Amateur Satellite net Begins in 1 hour
Message-ID:
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This is a reminder that the Colorado Amateur Satellite net will begin in 1
hour from now (7PM mountain time Thursday).
6PM Pacific
7PM Mountain
8PM Central
9PM Eastern
Please visit us on
*AMSATNET.INFO <http://amsatnet.info/>*
*IRLP*
9870, the Denver Reflector
*ALLSTAR LINK*
40764, direct hookup to the repeater here. 41715, KC9ZHV hub at a data
center if I am out of bandwidth. More info on AllStar - amsatnet.info/#node
*ECHOLINK*
*AMSAT* unless there is an ARISS contact, then go direct to KD0WHB-L
*LOCAL RF*
449.625 (-) 141.3 ( W?KU Lookout Mountain)
447.225 (-) 141.3 (The STEM school repeater we set up)
447.850 (-) 141.3 (AC?KQ's repeater where he lives on TOP of saddleback
mountain)
147.450 SIMPLEX (Aurora, CO)
446.275 (-) 100.0 Galena St. Local repeater at my house, giving a whopping
5 blocks of great coverage
*REMOTE RF*
Your Repeater here!, Email me if you want to link in or me to link your
echolink or allstar repeater in automatically (no automatic IRLP linking
supported)
Skyler Fennell
amsatnet.info
KD?WHB
electricity440@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 03:54:08 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT at Radio Society of Tucson (AZ) Hamfest, 26
March 2016
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Hi!
I will have an AMSAT table at the Radio Society of Tucson's annual hamfest
on Saturday morning, 26 March 2016. The hamfest will be at the Target store
on Old Spanish Trail, near the intersection of 22nd Street and Harrison, in
Tucson AZ. The hamfest is scheduled to run from 6am to 11am (1300 to 1800
UTC). More information about the hamfest is available at the club's web
site at:
http://www.k7rst.org/
I will be on various satellite passes during the morning from the hamfest.
If you hear WD9EWK, please call and be a part of the demonstrations of
amateur satellite operating. Depending on the satellites and how bright it
is at the hamfest, I hope to be using my SDRplay SDR receiver and an 8-inch
Windows10 tablet to receive the satellite downlinks.
If you work WD9EWK during the hamfest and would like a QSL card, please
e-mail me directly with the QSO details. If you're in the log, I will be
happy to send you a card. No need to first send me a QSL card and SASE. I
will also upload my log to Logbook of the World.
I will use my @xxxxxx Twitter feed for updates during the hamfest, and I
will use that for photos from the hamfest. If you want to see my Twitter
activity without signing up for Twitter, please visit this link:
http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
Thanks, and 73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 04:15:13 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ DM52/62 line in New Mexico, Saturday (26
March) afternoon
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Hi!
After Saturday morning's hamfest in Tucson AZ, I plan on making a long
drive east to a point along I-10 on the DM52xf/DM62af grid boundary, west
of Deming in New Mexico. I hope to work a few passes from there in the mid-
to late-afternoon, and possibly into the evening. If I am not at the grid
boundary in time for FO-29 and/or AO-7 passes, I may stop to work
those passes wherever I might be - probably somewhere in grid DM52, in
either Arizona or New Mexico. I definitely plan on being at this grid
boundary in time for SO-50 passes starting just after 2200 UTC Saturday
afternoon. Weather permitting, and law enforcement permitting (this area
is near the USA/Mexico border), I might try to stick around into the early
evening before making the 300-mile/500km drive home from that area.
While on the road, my location should be visible via APRS. There is good
APRS coverage in southeastern Arizona and southwestern New Mexico. I will
use WD9EWK-9 as my call sign for APRS, which should show up online at
(among other sites):
http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9
I will use my @xxxxxx Twitter feed to post updates during the afternoon and
early evening while I am out in New Mexico. For those who don't use Twitter
and want to see my updates, please feel free to use the following link in
a web browser:
http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
Once I'm back home, I will upload my log to Logbook of the World, and will
ensure QSOs from the grid boundary carry both grids. If you would like a
QSL card for a QSO with WD9EWK, please e-mail me directly with the QSO
details. If you're in the log, I will be happy to mail you a card, and you
won't have to first send me a QSL card or SASE.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 04:58:37 +0000 (UTC)
From: shakeel -ur-rehman <shakeelj2k@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Ground Station Customized Softwares/ Software
Development Kit
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We are in process of development of Student Satellite Ground station for
amateur satellite. we are using Satpc32 software for receiving satellite
passes/telemtry for funcube.
Satellite Ground station software are mainly two types
1. Satellite Control related s/w
2. Satellite Mission related s/w
3. Satellite data archiver and ground station operation management
We need to know any customized SDK for our Satellite Ground Station which
can further tailored for our customized need. I mean is there any Software
Development Kit Free in part or whatever which can be used further and
further developed or customized to support our specific need.
We donot know how to make any integrated IDE which includes drivers of our
equipment.
Is there any Telemtry software which can be used to archive all the telemtry
/satellite passes daily. What professional software available in market
specfic to H/W mention below.
we have the following main Hard Ware/Equipment.
1. ICOM Transceiver 9100
2. SPID RAS Azimuth/elev Rotor
3. Satpc32 software
4. UHF/VHF antennas and Amplifiers
any help to find software tools/SDK for our ground station.I shall be very
grateful .
Thanks and Kind regards
shakeel
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 01:52:34 -0400
From: "Scott" <scott23192@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Fiberglass Poles for Antenna Mounting?
Message-ID: <5A61B2E2BD57484C9E07EFD8260EFB36@xxxxxx>
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In reading the descriptions of various directional antenna installations, I
often see a statement that the last section of mast between the rotator and
antenna is non-metallic (most often fiberglass, I believe).
What is the best source for a suitable length of fiberglass pole of the
correct size?
I would not be surprised if the source is outside of the radio world...
perhaps a round fiberglass pole intended for as a tool handle, for example.
Just a guess.
Appreciate any suggestions.
Thanks!
-Scott, K4KDR
Montpelier, VA USA
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 08:05:00 +0000
From: Daniel Cussen <dan@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fiberglass Poles for Antenna Mounting?
Message-ID:
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See here:
http://www.m2inc.com/amateur/cross-boom-hd-fg-11/
You might be able to source something locally, but most fishing pole
rods are hollow. You can use a straight coupler to join metal to non
metal sections e.g.:
http://www.radioworld.co.uk/wall_brackets_etc/1_25_inch_mast_coupler_with_6_bo
lts
On 25/03/2016, Scott <scott23192@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> In reading the descriptions of various directional antenna installations, I
> often see a statement that the last section of mast between the rotator and
> antenna is non-metallic (most often fiberglass, I believe).
>
> What is the best source for a suitable length of fiberglass pole of the
> correct size?
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:02:30 +0000
From: Daniel Cussen <dan@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ground Station Customized Softwares/ Software
Development Kit
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<CAF3DnKjnFUKiKwKKSYe10RkAAT8jT5BGbjDANhJ7Uk-V2ZU_Mw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi Shakeel,
I do not really understand your question. SatPC32 can move your
antenna and also calculate some future passes.
Funcube can send data to the funcube warehouse. This may be what you
mean for telemetry archive.
See:
http://funcube.org.uk/
http://warehouse.funcube.org.uk/
The source code is shared here:
http://funcube.org.uk/ground-segment/the-data-warehouse/
Are you using the dashboard here?:
http://funcube.org.uk/working-documents/funcube-telemetry-dashboard/
Normally you configure SatPC32 to move the antenna, and use the
dashboard to send all the received data to the funcube warehouse. When
the data is in the warehouse you can access it.
Is this what you need? Are you only receiving the funcube satellite or
do you have different satellites you are interested in?
Are you sending data up to a satellite, and if so which one and what
data format?
Are you looking to make a standardised ground station. There was a
standard, and I think a few stations are operational, but there is not
much information online:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Educational_Network_for_Satellite_Operati
ons
If you are transmitting, then it would be a good idea to try make it
compatible with other similar ground stations.
Please ask questions and try to explain what satellites you want to
receive and what you want to transmit.
On 25/03/2016, shakeel -ur-rehman via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> We are in process of development of Student Satellite Ground station for
> amateur satellite. we are using Satpc32 software for receiving satellite
> passes/telemtry for funcube.
>
> Satellite Ground station software are mainly two types
>
> 1. Satellite Control related s/w
> 2. Satellite Mission related s/w
> 3. Satellite data archiver and ground station operation management
>
> We need to know any customized SDK for our Satellite Ground Station which
> can further tailored for our customized need. I mean is there any Software
> Development Kit Free in part or whatever which can be used further and
> further developed or customized to support our specific need.
>
> We donot know how to make any integrated IDE which includes drivers of our
> equipment.
>
> Is there any Telemtry software which can be used to archive all the telemtry
> /satellite passes daily. What professional software available in market
> specfic to H/W mention below.
>
> we have the following main Hard Ware/Equipment.
>
>
> 1. ICOM Transceiver 9100
>
> 2. SPID RAS Azimuth/elev Rotor
>
> 3. Satpc32 software
>
> 4. UHF/VHF antennas and Amplifiers
>
> any help to find software tools/SDK for our ground station.I shall be very
> grateful .
>
> Thanks and Kind regards
>
> shakeel
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2016 09:20:06 +0000
From: Daniel Cussen <dan@xxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] GEO sats and the future
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>what if any plans are there to potentially put up 2 or 3 more geo sats with
full time >linking between them?
I assume it would be possible to link the Qatari and US Government satellite.
The most realistic way would be internet/IRLP/Echolink based, although
the Qatari may have slight overlapping coverage if a radio linking
station was placed in East Brazil. Full time radio linking would have
costs, while it would be far easier to use presumably volunteer
European/USA ground stations internet linked.
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