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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Yaesu G5500 Rotator (Edward R Cole)
2. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-03-29 06:30 UTC
Quick list of schedu (AJ9N@xxx.xxxx
3. Is it me? (Perry Yantis)
4. Re: Is it me? (Norm n3ykf)
5. Space Security Survey - Reminder (Brandon Shirley)
6. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-03-29 18:00 UTC
(AJ9N@xxx.xxxx
7. Re: Is it me? (Jeff Moore)
8. Re: Is it me? (Clayton W5PFG)
9. Re: Is it me? (Alan)
10. Re: Is it me (PA3GUO)
11. Re: Is it me? (Rick Tejera)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 28 Mar 2016 21:23:41 -0800
From: Edward R Cole <kl7uw@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yaesu G5500 Rotator
Message-ID: <201603290523.u2T5Ngv3032682@xxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Not currently operational for satellite but checkout my antenna arrangement:
http://www.kl7uw.com/sat.htm
I have a single top section of Rohn-25g tower mounted on a hinge base
with the B5400 mounted just above the tower. The old set up had too
much wind area and weight too high for the aluminum mast (see the
bent over photo). For antenna work I just unbolt and layover the
tower on its hinges using my lawn tractor holding a guy wire.
New trimmed down array is with part of M2 436CP42 array (using 26
element back part of boom) and a 2M7 yagi from M2. I also have a
small 2.4 GHz patch antenna not is use.
I had all this mounted on the roof of our old house on a TV tripod
tower (no photos).
Some day I will get it all restored and figure how to utilize my K3
and KX3 for a mode-UV station. I am too involved in eme at present
and running small ham business. Hoping for a Heo or Geo style
satellite for the future.
73, Ed - KL7UW
http://www.kl7uw.com
"Kits made by KL7UW"
Dubus Mag business:
dubususa@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 02:57:42 -0400
From: AJ9N@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-03-29
06:30 UTC Quick list of schedu
Message-ID: <267dd.5b12c324.442b8166@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-03-29 06:30 UTC
Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
Hirano Junior High School, Kobe, Japan, direct via 8N370H
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Contact is a go for: Mon 2016-03-28 11:07:49 UTC 56 deg
National Soaring Museum, Elmira, New York, telebridge via IK1SLD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-04-01 18:34:03 UTC 34 deg
Kiilinik High School, Cambridge Bay, Nunavut, Canada, telebridge via
VK4KHZ (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS (***)
The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ (***)
Contact is go for: Wed 2016-04-06 18:02:20 UTC 55 deg (***)
H.A.L. School, Lucknow, India, telebridge via W6SRJ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN (***)
Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-04-08 08:17:46 UTC 26 deg (***)
****************************************************************************
**
The next window to submit a proposal for an upcoming contact is now open.
The window is open from 2016-02-15 to 2016-04-15 and would be for contacts
between 2017-01-01 and 2017-06-30.
Check out the ARISS website http://www.ariss.org/ or the ARRL website
http://www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact for full details.
****************************************************************************
**
ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@xxxxx.xxx or aj9n@xxx.xxx.
****************************************************************************
***
All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted.
****************************************************************************
***
Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. That has now been changed to
http://www.ariss.org/
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
****************************************************************************
Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete
details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.
http://www.ariss-eu.org/
If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:
Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 116
Francesco IK?WGF with 116
****************************************************************************
The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date
webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are
additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.
Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date
and
time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-03-29 06:30 UTC.
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1037.
Each school counts as 1 event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1002.
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.
A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas, Delaware, Rhode Island, South Dakota,
Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin
Islands.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
QSL information may be found at:
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html
ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS
****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-03-19 05:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf
Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf
Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts
https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp. 46 on orbit
Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP
****************************************************************************
73,
Charlie Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
------------------------------
Message: 3
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 07:54:19 -0400
From: Perry Yantis <py41@xxx.xxx>
To: Amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Is it me?
Message-ID: <C770D159-BB40-4352-B0A8-7C3D290C3604@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Look at your display on the TS2000.
Above the first digit on the freq display you should see ?PRE? meaning the
preamp is on.
On my TS2000 setup with the preamp on I hear all sats just fine.
But every now and then I notice that the ?PRE? is not on and as a result I
don?t hear the sats or they are very weak.
I have now got into the habit of looking for the ?PRE? every time I turn on
the sat tracking program (MacDoppler on my Apple computer).
This may be the only problem you are having and is easily fixed.
Perry WB8OTH
py41@xxx.xxx
Sent from my Apple Macbook Pro
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 08:43:30 -0400
From: Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
Cc: "<,amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Is it me?
Message-ID:
<CAJUhCTOwnKc_794TYCZKvkvFLPHMKqUKY8yQAEcBZqrz7n6U+A@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
More from the stupid question file: What kind of power supply are you
using? Is it providing enough current?
I don't trust the power output indicator on a radio. Use an IC-7000
and an 857d portable. The 857d has a voltmeter that indicates B+.
Keeping an eye on it before, duing and after key down gives me a feel
for what the battery is producing.
Could also be desense. If you've got a cavity handy and a way to make
a return loss measurement (tune it), it's worth a try! My Times
Technologies T-100 has this function. Present generation is 200$ on my
fave-rave auction site.
Find the bug, prove the bug, shoot the bug.
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 11:41 PM, Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> All,
>
>
>
> While planning upgrades to the shack, I've decided to try my hand at the
> linear birds again, taking myb TS-2000 outside and operating Semi portable.
> So far it has been a lesson in frustration. I've yet to find my downlink.
> Tonight I tried to get on XW-2C on the 0100UT pass which was 70 degrees from
> DM33.
>
>
>
> First let me describe how I set up. (I finally solved the memory storage
> issue I wrote about a few weeks ago). basically it's just the radio into an
> ELK on my equatorial tripod mount and the laptop (Still waiting for the
> USB-->Serial converter to get SATPC 32 talking to the radio).
>
> So I started at the center of the passband and using the doppler corrections
> in SAtPC, tuned the UHF uplink down to where Sat POC said it would hear at
> the sat and moved around bit trying to hear myself. Kept adjusting the
> uplink and also played with the other way Calling CQ on the uplink and
> moving the downlink trying to find myself.self Didn't hear jack the whole
> pass.
>
>
>
> I did record the pass and thought I might have heard myself, but it was toow
> eak to discern my call or grid, (though it did kinda sound like me).
>
>
>
> So, I guess I have two questions:
>
>
>
> 1) Is my methodology correct? if not what am I doing wrong?
>
> 2) Did anyone hear me?
>
>
>
> I'm hoping once I get the Cable and SATPC talking to the radio, it might
> make it easier, but I think knowing how to do this manually should be
> skillset i should have.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
> Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
>
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
>
> www.saguaroastro.org
>
> Thunderbird Radio Club
>
> www.w7tbc.org
>
> 623-572-0713
>
> 623-203-4121 (cell)
>
> SaguaroAstro@xxx.xxx
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 15:17:20 +0000
From: Brandon Shirley <Brandon.Shirley@xxx.xxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Space Security Survey - Reminder
Message-ID: <29895ccbf6794b8289a2d38ca2ee5e3d@xx.xxxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Dear AMSAT community members,
This is a reminder email for my Security Survey. So far about 25
participants have completed the survey, and if you have, I am very
grateful. I would ideally want about 100-200 respondents, but I have had
about ~50 participants on the previous surveys. If I could get another 15-25
participants that would be great. At present I plan to close the survey next
Monday.
I was informed that the Pro, Con, Neutral question is difficult to take
because of how Qualtrics has implemented the question and because I added
definitions to the terms that take up more space. Unfortunately, I cannot
change that for this survey. I have similar question types on the remaining
two surveys and I have switched to a mouse hover for displaying the
definitions. I will also include them in a pdf for those taking the survey
on a touch based device. My apologies. I show about 16 partially complete
surveys, if that is all of the survey you planned to take then that is fine,
if want to finish it you can by visiting the link with the same browser, as
long as you have not cleared you cookies you should be able to resume. Thanks.
There is a chance to win some gift cards. Please see below for more
information and the link to take the survey. The survey should only take
about 10 minutes. Thanks.
Please note that the link is anonymous, so you are getting this reminder
even if you have already taken the survey. I would like to thank everyone
that has participated thus far, I really appreciate it, I know it is an
inconvenience and that everyone is really busy.
The second part of the survey has background questions that will give
context to your answers. Try to fill the background out the same way if you
take more than one of the surveys.
You can you use the link below to access the Security Survey.
https://usu.co1.qualtrics.com/SE/?SID=SV_cwoPwnnqVbUG1hz
Answer as many of the questions as you want and as much of each question as
you want, partial surveys may still be very helpful. At the end of this
survey, you will be redirected to a webpage that asks for an email address.
You must enter a valid email address to be considered for survey drawings or
the overall survey set drawing.
We are currently on the 4th survey, Security.
You have a chance at receiving a gift card for participating in this survey
as well as a chance at receiving a gift card for your overall participation
in the entire survey set. There will be 2 winners of $25 gift cards for each
survey and 2 winners of $200 gift cards for the survey set.
The surveys are as follows and will be distributed in the following order:
(participate as you see fit)
Core Concepts
Development Preferences
Open Systems Architecture and Modularity
Security <========= We are here =========
Reuse, Interoperability, Portability, Code Complexity
Network
V/R,
Brandon Shirley
b.l.s@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxx
See
http://brandon.bluezone.usu.edu/Files/LOISpaceSoftwareAttitudes_Final.pdf
for the Letter of Intent (LOI) that explains your role as a participant
should you choose to participate.
This is a legitimate request for you participation, if you have any
questions about the validity of this email you may refer to the Letter of
Intent, contact Brandon Shirley via email at b.l.s@xxxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxx or
contact Utah State University's Internal Review Board administrator at (435)
797 - 0567 or email irb@xxx.xxx.
------------------------------
Message: 6
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:32:38 -0400
From: AJ9N@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-03-29
18:00 UTC
Message-ID: <26bb41.6f88f3c4.442c1636@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1"
Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-03-29 18:00 UTC
Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
Hirano Junior High School, Kobe, Japan, direct via 8N370H
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Contact was successful for: Mon 2016-03-28 11:07:49 UTC 56 deg (***)
National Soaring Museum, Elmira, New York, telebridge via IK1SLD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-04-01 18:34:03 UTC 34 deg
Kiilinik High School, Cambridge Bay, Nunavut, Canada, telebridge via VK4KHZ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Contact is go for: Wed 2016-04-06 18:02:20 UTC 55 deg
H.A.L. School, Lucknow, India, telebridge via W6SRJ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Contact is a go for: Fri 2016-04-08 08:17:46 UTC 26 deg
****************************************************************************
**
The next window to submit a proposal for an upcoming contact is now open.
The window is open from 2016-02-15 to 2016-04-15 and would be for contacts
between 2017-01-01 and 2017-06-30.
Check out the ARISS website http://www.ariss.org/ or the ARRL website
http://www.arrl.org/hosting-an-ariss-contact for full details.
****************************************************************************
**
ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@xxxxx.xxx or aj9n@xxx.xxx.
****************************************************************************
***
All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted.
****************************************************************************
***
Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. That has now been changed to
http://www.ariss.org/
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
****************************************************************************
Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete
details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.
http://www.ariss-eu.org/
If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:
Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 117 (***)
Francesco IK?WGF with 116
****************************************************************************
The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date
webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are
additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.
Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date
and
time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-03-29 18:00 UTC.
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1038. (***)
Each school counts as 1 event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1003. (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.
A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas, Delaware, Rhode Island, South Dakota,
Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern Marianas Islands, and the Virgin
Islands.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
QSL information may be found at:
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html
ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS
****************************************************************************
The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-03-29 18:00 UTC.
(***)
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf
Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf
Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts
https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp. 46 on orbit
Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP
****************************************************************************
73,
Charlie Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
------------------------------
Message: 7
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 11:33:52 -0700
From: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Is it me?
Message-ID:
<CALx_moRJWK+7XaLZbE2Mx_YOJVNqD-of2kitj1mycW2xqqTC=w@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
I thought the TS-2000 had all the doppler correction built in. Why aren't
you using that since your laptop isn't attached to the radio????
Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:41 PM, Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> All,
>
>
>
> While planning upgrades to the shack, I've decided to try my hand at the
> linear birds again, taking myb TS-2000 outside and operating Semi portable.
> So far it has been a lesson in frustration. I've yet to find my downlink.
> Tonight I tried to get on XW-2C on the 0100UT pass which was 70 degrees
> from
> DM33.
>
>
>
> First let me describe how I set up. (I finally solved the memory storage
> issue I wrote about a few weeks ago). basically it's just the radio into an
> ELK on my equatorial tripod mount and the laptop (Still waiting for the
> USB-->Serial converter to get SATPC 32 talking to the radio).
>
> So I started at the center of the passband and using the doppler
> corrections
> in SAtPC, tuned the UHF uplink down to where Sat POC said it would hear at
> the sat and moved around bit trying to hear myself. Kept adjusting the
> uplink and also played with the other way Calling CQ on the uplink and
> moving the downlink trying to find myself.self Didn't hear jack the whole
> pass.
>
>
>
> I did record the pass and thought I might have heard myself, but it was
> toow
> eak to discern my call or grid, (though it did kinda sound like me).
>
>
>
> So, I guess I have two questions:
>
>
>
> 1) Is my methodology correct? if not what am I doing wrong?
>
> 2) Did anyone hear me?
>
>
>
> I'm hoping once I get the Cable and SATPC talking to the radio, it might
> make it easier, but I think knowing how to do this manually should be
> skillset i should have.
>
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
>
>
>
> Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
>
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
>
> www.saguaroastro.org
>
> Thunderbird Radio Club
>
> www.w7tbc.org
>
> 623-572-0713
>
> 623-203-4121 (cell)
>
> SaguaroAstro@xxx.xxx
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
------------------------------
Message: 8
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 13:54:38 -0500
From: Clayton W5PFG <w5pfg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Is it me?
Message-ID: <56FACF6E.1000503@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
This is a common misunderstanding about radios with a "Satellite mode."
These radios typically just lock VFO's and perform normal or inverse
tracking but they cannot automatically adjust to the correct frequencies
for Doppler shift. You should use external computer control to do that
accurately.
In fact, if you manually lock VFO's and try to have a QSO with someone
on a LEO satellite, you will quickly find yourself drifting away in
frequency from the other station each time you move the main VFO. In
general, this is a bad practice. If you unlock the VFO's and tune
either the uplink or the downlink (depending on satellite mode,) you'll
be fine.
It is best to adjust the higher of the two frequencies when manually
tuning. This is the common practice known as the "one true rule."
Locking the VFO's will typically inhibit your ability to adjust one band
or the other separately unless you are depending on RIT/XIT.
73
Clayton
W5PFG
On 3/29/2016 13:33, Jeff Moore wrote:
> I thought the TS-2000 had all the doppler correction built in. Why aren't
> you using that since your laptop isn't attached to the radio????
>
> Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:41 PM, Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> All,
>>
>>
>>
>> While planning upgrades to the shack, I've decided to try my hand at the
>> linear birds again, taking myb TS-2000 outside and operating Semi portable.
>> So far it has been a lesson in frustration. I've yet to find my downlink.
>> Tonight I tried to get on XW-2C on the 0100UT pass which was 70 degrees
>> from
>> DM33.
>>
>>
>>
>> First let me describe how I set up. (I finally solved the memory storage
>> issue I wrote about a few weeks ago). basically it's just the radio into an
>> ELK on my equatorial tripod mount and the laptop (Still waiting for the
>> USB-->Serial converter to get SATPC 32 talking to the radio).
>>
>> So I started at the center of the passband and using the doppler
>> corrections
>> in SAtPC, tuned the UHF uplink down to where Sat POC said it would hear at
>> the sat and moved around bit trying to hear myself. Kept adjusting the
>> uplink and also played with the other way Calling CQ on the uplink and
>> moving the downlink trying to find myself.self Didn't hear jack the whole
>> pass.
>>
>>
>>
>> I did record the pass and thought I might have heard myself, but it was
>> toow
>> eak to discern my call or grid, (though it did kinda sound like me).
>>
>>
>>
>> So, I guess I have two questions:
>>
>>
>>
>> 1) Is my methodology correct? if not what am I doing wrong?
>>
>> 2) Did anyone hear me?
>>
>>
>>
>> I'm hoping once I get the Cable and SATPC talking to the radio, it might
>> make it easier, but I think knowing how to do this manually should be
>> skillset i should have.
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
>>
>> Saguaro Astronomy Club
>>
>> www.saguaroastro.org
>>
>> Thunderbird Radio Club
>>
>> www.w7tbc.org
>>
>> 623-572-0713
>>
>> 623-203-4121 (cell)
>>
>> SaguaroAstro@xxx.xxx
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 14:21:50 -0500
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Amsat BB'" <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Is it me?
Message-ID: <000001d189f0$3ec836c0$bc58a440$@xxxxx.xxx>
The Satellite Mode found in older rigs is a blast from the past.
Specifically P3 birds like AO-10 and
AO-13. It depended on the Doppler shift being relatively constant (but not
necessarily small) over a
reasonable period of time. You could sync your uplink and downlink, and then
tune around with the
uplink automatically correcting. Over much of the P3 orbit you only needed
to resync every 15-20
minutes or more. By comparison, with LEO birds the Doppler shift changes
fairly rapidly throughout
most of the pass, thus invalidating the basic assumption of the integral
Satellite Mode. Fortunately
software such as SatPC32 and MacDoppler will work for any orbit. Lacking
that, or when operating a
satellite such as AO-73 where the LO drifts a bit, purely manual tuning is
more of a necessity than an
option.
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Jeff Moore
<Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2016 1:34 PM
<To: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Is it me?
<
<I thought the TS-2000 had all the doppler correction built in. Why aren't
<you using that since your laptop isn't attached to the radio????
<
<Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
<
<
<
<On Mon, Mar 28, 2016 at 8:41 PM, Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx> wrote:
<
<> All,
<>
<>
<>
<> While planning upgrades to the shack, I've decided to try my hand at the
<> linear birds again, taking myb TS-2000 outside and operating Semi portable.
<> So far it has been a lesson in frustration. I've yet to find my downlink.
<> Tonight I tried to get on XW-2C on the 0100UT pass which was 70 degrees
<> from
<> DM33.
<>
<>
<>
<> First let me describe how I set up. (I finally solved the memory storage
<> issue I wrote about a few weeks ago). basically it's just the radio into an
<> ELK on my equatorial tripod mount and the laptop (Still waiting for the
<> USB-->Serial converter to get SATPC 32 talking to the radio).
<>
<> So I started at the center of the passband and using the doppler
<> corrections
<> in SAtPC, tuned the UHF uplink down to where Sat POC said it would hear at
<> the sat and moved around bit trying to hear myself. Kept adjusting the
<> uplink and also played with the other way Calling CQ on the uplink and
<> moving the downlink trying to find myself.self Didn't hear jack the whole
<> pass.
<>
<>
<>
<> I did record the pass and thought I might have heard myself, but it was
<> toow
<> eak to discern my call or grid, (though it did kinda sound like me).
<>
<>
<>
<> So, I guess I have two questions:
<>
<>
<>
<> 1) Is my methodology correct? if not what am I doing wrong?
<>
<> 2) Did anyone hear me?
<>
<>
<>
<> I'm hoping once I get the Cable and SATPC talking to the radio, it might
<> make it easier, but I think knowing how to do this manually should be
<> skillset i should have.
<>
<>
<>
<> Thanks in advance.
<>
<>
<>
<>
<>
<> Rick Tejera (K7TEJ)
<>
<> Saguaro Astronomy Club
<>
<> www.saguaroastro.org
<>
<> Thunderbird Radio Club
<>
<> www.w7tbc.org
<>
<> 623-572-0713
<>
<> 623-203-4121 (cell)
<>
<> SaguaroAstro@xxx.xxx
<>
<>
<>
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<> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
<> expressed
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 30 Mar 2016 00:10:37 +0300
From: PA3GUO <pa3guo@xxxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Is it me
Message-ID: <1459285837.883293996@xxx.xx.xxx>
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Hi
Doppler shift depends on where you are (on earth) relative to the satellite.
A radio cannot know this, also not a TS2000.
This is what software like satpc32 is used for.
What a TS2000 and some other radios can do is apply a fixed ratio between
uplink and downlink of a transponder. Excluding doppler.
Btw also excluding eg a freq shift (drift) during a pass like AO73 has. That
is something also satpc32 cannot compensate for.
Enjoy the challenge!
Henk PA3GUO
<I thought the TS-2000 had all the doppler correction built in. Why aren't
you using that since your laptop isn't attached to the radio????
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 29 Mar 2016 16:05:14 -0700
From: Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
To: Perry Yantis <py41@xxx.xxx>, Amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Is it me?
Message-ID: <rnannf8w4fm9kb42fyhqyr4q.1459292714852@xxxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Didn't think of that, will give it a go next time, hopefully later tonight.
Thanks
Rick Tejera K7TEJSaguaroAstro@xxx.xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
-------- Original message --------
From: Perry Yantis <py41@xxx.xxx>
Date: 03/29/2016 04:54 (GMT-07:00)
To: Amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Is it me?
Look at your display on the TS2000.
Above the first digit on the freq display you should see ?PRE? meaning the
preamp is on.
On my TS2000 setup with the preamp on I hear all sats just fine.
But every now and then I notice that the ?PRE? is not on and as a result I
don?t hear the sats or they are very weak.
I have now got into the habit of looking for the ?PRE? every time I turn on
the sat tracking program (MacDoppler on my Apple computer).
This may be the only problem you are having and is easily fixed.
Perry WB8OTH
py41@xxx.xxx
Sent from my Apple Macbook Pro
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