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Today's Topics:
1. Re: more from the Satpc32 aggravation file (John Fickes)
2. Re: SpaceX Test Vehicle Explodes (Bryce Salmi)
3. Re: SpaceX Test Vehicle Explodes (Bryce Salmi)
4. More On SpaceX Mishap (B J)
5. More On SpaceX Mishap / bad day for Galileo too (g0mrf@xxx.xxxx
6. Re: Galileo 1260-1300 MHz - Protection Radius (M5AKA)
7. AmsatDroid Satellite App 1.0.9 Released (David A B Johnson)
8. Aug 26 Deployment for Lambda-Sat ? (M5AKA)
9. Re: SpaceX Test Vehicle Explodes (Alan)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:51:26 -0500
From: John Fickes <kc0bmf@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Lizeth Norman <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<,amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] more from the Satpc32 aggravation file
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Norm
Everybody is different as to there common mistakes, but I notice that
mine seems to always be that I put a decimal in the frequency when I
manually enter modifications with notepad. If you examine very closely I'll
bet find that you are making a very subtle change that is easily
overlooked. But I could be wrong after all I'm just an Amateur.
73 John KC0BMF
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 11:03 AM, Lizeth Norman <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> Why would altering the doppler.sqf file not work with direct
> modification via Windows Notepad?
> The symptom is that the frequency is not recognized, although the line
> in the doppler.sqf file is apparently correct.
> Going over to the .tle file to check the spelling, spacing and so
> forth on the satellite name, the bright idea overcame me to find out
> what happens when I copy and paste the name (obviously the same to the
> EYE!!!) from the .tle file to the doppler.sqf file.
> Low and behold, it worked. Nothing in the rest of the line in the
> doppler.sqf file was altered.
> I surmise that even though the displayed characters are the same,
> somehow they are not.
> What is the formatting issue that I'm running into? This has happened
> before AND I have not, until today found out why.
> How do I fix this? I have spent a fair amount of headbanging here.
> This is just the latest episode.
> If I looked at the file in a hex editor, I am sure I would not know
> what to look for. Probably break more than I fix.
> Norm n3ykf
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 19:49:07 -0700
From: Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Brenton Salmi <kb1lqd@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SpaceX Test Vehicle Explodes
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I'll second that, people should remember it's a test vehicle and doesn't
really represent a normal launch at all. The publicly stated goals has
actually always been to push it to the limits. Hence why one of the first
Grasshopper videos has Johny Cash "Ring of Fire" in the background (NOT
F9R-Dev1, today flight is a difference vehicle, Grasshopper did not fly
today).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoxiK7K28PU
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Brenton Salmi <kb1lqd@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> F9R was a dedicated test vehicle for vertical takeoff vertical landing and
> had many successes under its belt. It was pushed to extreme today to test
> capabilities flying quite the mission!
>
> Thanks for the link! Lots to be learned in the name of
> advancing spaceflight!
>
> Brent, KB1LQD
>
> On Friday, August 22, 2014, B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > Sorry about the earlier empty post. I was a bit fumble-fingered when
> > I started writing .
> >
> > http://www.parabolicarc.com/2014/08/22/spacex-bad-day-mcgregor/
> >
> >
>
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2014/08/22/spacex-statement-mcgregor-rocket-explos
ion/
> >
> >
>
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2014/08/22/video-spacex-rocket-explosion-mcgregor/
> >
> > This reminds everyone that spaceflight is hard.
> >
> > 73s
> >
> > Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 22 Aug 2014 20:02:16 -0700
From: Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Brenton Salmi <kb1lqd@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SpaceX Test Vehicle Explodes
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Last email, finally achieved it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=THQPNDNulVc#t=828
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 7:49 PM, Bryce Salmi <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I'll second that, people should remember it's a test vehicle and doesn't
> really represent a normal launch at all. The publicly stated goals has
> actually always been to push it to the limits. Hence why one of the first
> Grasshopper videos has Johny Cash "Ring of Fire" in the background (NOT
> F9R-Dev1, today flight is a difference vehicle, Grasshopper did not fly
> today).
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoxiK7K28PU
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Brenton Salmi <kb1lqd@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> F9R was a dedicated test vehicle for vertical takeoff vertical landing and
>> had many successes under its belt. It was pushed to extreme today to test
>> capabilities flying quite the mission!
>>
>> Thanks for the link! Lots to be learned in the name of
>> advancing spaceflight!
>>
>> Brent, KB1LQD
>>
>> On Friday, August 22, 2014, B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> > Sorry about the earlier empty post. I was a bit fumble-fingered when
>> > I started writing .
>> >
>> > http://www.parabolicarc.com/2014/08/22/spacex-bad-day-mcgregor/
>> >
>> >
>>
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2014/08/22/spacex-statement-mcgregor-rocket-explos
ion/
>> >
>> >
>>
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2014/08/22/video-spacex-rocket-explosion-mcgregor/
>> >
>> > This reminds everyone that spaceflight is hard.
>> >
>> > 73s
>> >
>> > Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <javascript:;>. AMSAT-NA makes this open
>> > forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> > expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
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>> >
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 05:24:20 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] More On SpaceX Mishap
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http://www.newspacejournal.com/2014/08/23/falcon-9-test-vehicle-destroyed-in-a
ccident/
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/08/spacex-static-fire-asiasat-6-test-failu
re/
http://innerspace.net/spacex/spacex-f9r-test-accident-in-texas/
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 04:21:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: g0mrf@xxx.xxx
To: va6bmj@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] More On SpaceX Mishap / bad day for Galileo too
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It seems SpaceX weren't the only people to suffer problems this week.
The European launch of two Galileo satellites appeared to be nominal until
the final orbit was examined.
From the keps on Celestrack it looks as though the satellites which are
supposed to be in medium Earth orbit around 23,000km have been separated
into an elliptical orbit with an apogee at 26,000 and a perigee at 14,000km.
This suggests that the satellites are passing into the upper region of the
Van Allen radiation belts.
I'm not aware of any significant propulsion on board other than manoeuvring
thrusters.
Would have been a nice ride share though.
David G0MRF
-----Original Message-----
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 6:32
Subject: [amsat-bb] More On SpaceX Mishap
http://www.newspacejournal.com/2014/08/23/falcon-9-test-vehicle-destroyed-in-a
ccident/
http://www.nasaspaceflight.com/2014/08/spacex-static-fire-asiasat-6-test-failu
re/
http://innerspace.net/spacex/spacex-f9r-test-accident-in-texas/
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 09:57:51 +0100
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Galileo 1260-1300 MHz - Protection Radius
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Thanks Alessio,
It seems we need to start looking for replacement Amateur-Satellite Service
spectrum in L-Band.
The first hurdle is to get IARU agreement on the need for replacement
spectrum, hopefully someone from AMSAT-NA is keeping ARRL briefed on the
matter since ARRL is a major force within IARU.
Getting the item on the WRC-2018 agenda will be a major challenge since
Agenda items are usually defined at the previous conference WRC-2015.
73 Trevor M5AKA
http://amsat-uk.org/2014/08/13/23-cm-band-and-wrc-2018/
On Friday, 22 August 2014, 21:43, Alessio Sacchi <iz4efn@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Interesting. Few weeks back I spoke with a member of the Italian CC, as our
club was going to add a 1296MHz port to a local repeater. He said Alenia Space
has submitted strong warnings regarding possible interference with Galileo
and he anticipated it could be hard to get a frequency assigned in that
portion of the spectrum in the near future.
Alessio IZ4EFN
On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 9:29 PM, M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
> In a previous post I mentioned a paper written in 2006 which indicated a
> 700 watt ERP amateur station might knock out a users 1260-1300 MHz Galileo
> receiver at a distance of 18 km.
> http://www.southgatearc.org/articles/galileo.htm
>
>
> This may be a considerable underestimate.
>
> Two German ATV repeaters were shut down due to interference to a user's
> Galileo receiver which was being used to evaluate the initial 4 test
> satellites, the repeaters were:
>
> DB0QI which was 18 km from the receiver
>
> and
> DB0ITV which was 55 km from the receiver
>
> My understanding is that both repeaters were running an ERP of just 15
> watts, but I've been unable to confirm that figure.
>
> The first two satellites of the operational Galileo GPS constellation were
> launched today to be followed by the rest over the next 3 years.
>
> Given the substantial investment in these satellites it seems to me likely
> that more European countries will follow the example of Germany and Austria
> and seek to protect the 1260-1300 MHz downlink.
>
> 73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 10:36:04 +0100
From: David A B Johnson <dave@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AmsatDroid Satellite App 1.0.9 Released
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Hi,
I am pleased to announce that the latest version has been released.
It has a bug fix for the problem where the Sky Map was using the wrong
IARU locator and location.
I've also change the width of the satellite selector spinner so that it
shows more of the satellite name,
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=uk.me.g4dpz.HamSatDroid
Regards
Dave, G4DPZ
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 11:10:27 +0100
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Aug 26 Deployment for Lambda-Sat ?
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The Cyprus Amateur Radio Society website report that Lambda-Sat is expected
to be deployed from the ISS on Aug 26
http://amsat-uk.org/2014/08/23/lambdasat-cubesat-iss-deployment/
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Trevor M5AKA
AMSAT-UK
Website http://amsat-uk.org/
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/amsatuk
Twitter https://twitter.com/AMSAT_UK
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 23 Aug 2014 06:45:42 -0500
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <bstguitarist@xxxxx.xxx>, "'Brenton Salmi'" <kb1lqd@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'amsat-bb' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SpaceX Test Vehicle Explodes
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A late friend, an aeronautical engineer beginning in the early days of jets
and rockets, used to say
that they judged the success and progress of a cutting edge R&D project by
the amount of wreaked
equipment they had. By pushing things to the limit, they learned what
worked and what didn't. While
he was knowledgeable of the new computer techniques and heartily approved,
he thought that they tended
to make some people risk averse when testing to destruction made sense. I
would like to think that
somewhere he is smiling.
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
<-----Original Message-----
<From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Bryce Salmi
<Sent: Friday, August 22, 2014 9:49 PM
<To: Brenton Salmi
<Cc: amsat-bb
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SpaceX Test Vehicle Explodes
<
<I'll second that, people should remember it's a test vehicle and doesn't
<really represent a normal launch at all. The publicly stated goals has
<actually always been to push it to the limits. Hence why one of the first
<Grasshopper videos has Johny Cash "Ring of Fire" in the background (NOT
<F9R-Dev1, today flight is a difference vehicle, Grasshopper did not fly
<today).
<
<http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NoxiK7K28PU
<
<
<On Fri, Aug 22, 2014 at 6:41 PM, Brenton Salmi <kb1lqd@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
<
<> F9R was a dedicated test vehicle for vertical takeoff vertical landing and
<> had many successes under its belt. It was pushed to extreme today to test
<> capabilities flying quite the mission!
<>
<> Thanks for the link! Lots to be learned in the name of
<> advancing spaceflight!
<>
<> Brent, KB1LQD
<>
<> On Friday, August 22, 2014, B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
<>
<> > Sorry about the earlier empty post. I was a bit fumble-fingered when
<> > I started writing .
<> >
<> > http://www.parabolicarc.com/2014/08/22/spacex-bad-day-mcgregor/
<> >
<> >
<>
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2014/08/22/spacex-statement-mcgregor-rocket-explos
ion/
<> >
<> >
<>
http://www.parabolicarc.com/2014/08/22/video-spacex-rocket-explosion-mcgregor/
<> >
<> > This reminds everyone that spaceflight is hard.
<> >
<> > 73s
<> >
<> > Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
<> > _______________________________________________
<> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <javascript:;>. AMSAT-NA makes this open
<> > forum available
<> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
<> Opinions
<> > expressed
<> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
<> > AMSAT-NA.
<> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
<> program!
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<> >
<> _______________________________________________
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