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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AO-73 telemetry received via FO-29
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
2. Re: SO-50 (Clint Bradford)
3. Re: Norwegian Pearl Photos and SAT OPs (Lee Ernstrom)
4. Re: ISS (Bob)
5. OSCAR 6 to OSCAR 7 link (Martin Davidoff)
6. satellite-to-satellite relay (Martin Davidoff)
7. direct satellite-to-satellite relay (Martin Davidoff)
8. Re: satellite-to-satellite relay (Kevin Elliott)
9. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-05-07 06:00 UTC
(AJ9N@xxx.xxxx
10. Re: AO-73 telemetry received via FO-29 (Graham Shirville)
11. Re: ISS (skristof@xxxxxxx.xxxx
12. Re: Norwegian Pearl Photos and SAT OPs (Lee Ernstrom)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 23:29:49 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-73 telemetry received via FO-29
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Alan,
Yes, there were hams talking through OSCARs 6 and 7 in the 1970s. I read
about that in preparing for a 2015 presentation I gave to a non-ham
crowd, talking about how hams have had a part in the Space Age. There
was also PCSAT-2 on the ISS being retransmitted by PCSAT (NO-44) in
2005 and 2006 and then copied by ground stations, as documented
by WB4APR at:
http://www.aprs.org/pec/pc2ops.html
I couldn't tell from that page how many times ground stations were
retransmitted by both of those satellites, but that page shows how
one satellite was heard by the other, and then the retransmission
was heard on the ground.
Seeing Zach's explanation on how the calculations for Doppler were
made, dealing with two different satellites, was impressive!
Congratulations to Zach and his class, and also to Paul N8HM for
also copying the AO-73 telemetry through FO-29.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx
On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 11:17 PM, Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Zach,
>
> Probably the first telemetry relay, but not quite the first relay. I
> recall literally decades ago
> there was a relay, probably but not definitely from 70 cm to 2 m to 10 m.
> It might have included AO-7
> in its first incarnation. Perhaps some of the really OTs might recall the
> details. Still, a great
> achievement. Especially calculating the hop to hop Doppler!
>
> 73s,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 17:24:20 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SO-50
Message-ID: <7ADA1CD3-0937-46B5-9C55-8290CB0A7B91@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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>> ... If you have been scared off of SO-50 due to crowded conditions, try a
morning pass. "Not crowded" is an understatement.
SO-50 continues to defy the laws of physics: No one thought in 2002 (when it
was launched) that rechargeable batteries would last 14+ years!
Clint K6LCS
http://www.work-sat.com
(909) 999-SATS (7287)
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 19:56:24 -0600
From: Lee Ernstrom <lee.ernstrom@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Norwegian Pearl Photos and SAT OPs
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Hi Fernando,
I don't know the answer. The times on these passes were just guesses. I
made note of the pass time frame but the exact time was just a guess. * Let
me know what time you recorded our QSO and I will re-upload our QSO and
we'll see if that fixes the problem.*
Otherwise, I can send you a QSL card.
Thanks for the QSOs :)
Doc
On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 4:37 PM, Lee Ernstrom <lee.ernstrom@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> If anyone is interested in seeing some photos of my satellite operation
> aboard the Norwegian Pearl please check out my QRZ.com page. I just
> finished uploading three photos.
>
> 73, Doc
> WA7HQD
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 23:41:56 -0400
From: Bob <WB4SON@xxxxx.xxx>
To: skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS
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Hi Steve,
I think you are talking about the All Saints Academy contact up here in
Rhode Island. Things went VERY well and we were fortunate to speak with
Astronaut Jeff Williams who was great with the kids and helped move things
along at a rapid pace -- all 24 students were able to ask their questions.
A live stream recording is still online for a bit here:
http://livestream.com/accounts/9685187/events/5301163
Be warned that the actual program begins at 3 hours 28 minutes 40 seconds.
The actual Q&A begins at 4 hours 13 minutes 50 seconds.
73, Bob, WB4SON
On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:17 PM, <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Heard the astronaut side of the school contact really well here EM79. I
> made a recording but I haven't checked it out yet.
>
> Max elevation here was 28 degrees but with nice flat area I could hear
> ISS horizon to horizon.
>
> Steve AI9IN
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 23:59:49 -0400
From: Martin Davidoff <mdavidoff42@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat bb <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] OSCAR 6 to OSCAR 7 link
Message-ID:
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Perry Klein (W3PK) and Ray Soifer (W2RS) are believed to be the first two
terrestrial stations to communicate using a direct satellite-to-satellite
relay in ANY radio service. This was accomplished with A-O-6 and A-O-7.
See P. Klein and R. Soifer, "Intersatellite Communication Using the
AMSAT-OSCAR 6 and AMSAT-OSCAR 7 Radio Amateur Satellites, *Proceedings of
the IEEE Letters*, Oct 1975, pp 1526-1527.
de K2ubc
Martin Davidoff
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 00:08:50 -0400
From: Martin Davidoff <mdavidoff42@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] satellite-to-satellite relay
Message-ID:
<CA+9cpqUq5Fnn_YXg=WuxeB1W7J92ejmF6sW+zq_FQMaHp3NYBQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Perry Klein (W3PK) and Ray Soifer (W2RS) are believed to be the first two
terrestrial stations to communicate using a direct satellite-to-satellite
relay in ANY radio service. This was accomplished with A-O-6 and A-O-7.
See P. Klein and R. Soifer, "Intersatellite Communication Using the
AMSAT-OSCAR 6 and AMSAT-OSCAR 7 Radio Amateur Satellites, *Proceedings of
the IEEE Letters*, Oct 1975, pp 1526-1527.
de K2ubc
Martin Davidoff
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 00:17:18 -0400
From: Martin Davidoff <mdavidoff42@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat bb <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] direct satellite-to-satellite relay
Message-ID:
<CA+9cpqWbpp=o3PA38bGJA4bgxcnM-e+h4tPrWHjm5fW07f4GaA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Perry Klein (W3PK) and Ray Soifer (W2RS) are believed to be the first two
terrestrial stations to communicate using a direct satellite-to-satellite
relay in ANY radio service. This was accomplished with A-O-6 and A-O-7.
See P. Klein and R. Soifer, "Intersatellite Communication Using the
AMSAT-OSCAR 6 and AMSAT-OSCAR 7 Radio Amateur Satellites, *Proceedings of
the IEEE Letters*, Oct 1975, pp 1526-1527.
Sorry if this is a repeat. Earlier messages did not appear to reach
AMSAT-BB.
de K2ubc
Martin Davidoff
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 6 May 2016 21:44:22 -0700
From: Kevin Elliott <kevin@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Martin Davidoff <mdavidoff42@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] satellite-to-satellite relay
Message-ID: <862EB800-BB28-40FF-BBE3-D322CFF11F6C@xxxxx.xxx>
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Wow this is really fascinating. Probably just in the amateur radio world
though, right?
I imagine there are other satellite constellations that have used individual
satellites to communicate with others in the network to expand content
distribution in the commercial/military markets.
Kevin, KK6NHN
> On May 6, 2016, at 9:08 PM, Martin Davidoff <mdavidoff42@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Perry Klein (W3PK) and Ray Soifer (W2RS) are believed to be the first two
> terrestrial stations to communicate using a direct satellite-to-satellite
> relay in ANY radio service. This was accomplished with A-O-6 and A-O-7.
> See P. Klein and R. Soifer, "Intersatellite Communication Using the
> AMSAT-OSCAR 6 and AMSAT-OSCAR 7 Radio Amateur Satellites, *Proceedings of
> the IEEE Letters*, Oct 1975, pp 1526-1527.
>
> de K2ubc
> Martin Davidoff
> _______________________________________________
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expressed
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 01:35:49 -0400
From: AJ9N@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-05-07
06:00 UTC
Message-ID: <2d2d8.50136345.445ed8b5@xxx.xxx>
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-05-07 06:00 UTC
Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
Ashfield Primary School, Otley, West Yorkshire, UK, direct via GB1APS
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be GB1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Contact was successful: Thu 2016-05-05 08:08:09 UTC 46 deg
All Saints STEAM Academy (AS2A), Middletown, Rhode Island, direct via
N1ASA
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Contact was successful: Fri 2016-05-06 16:43:47 UTC 56 deg (***)
Watch for the live simulcast at
livestream.com/accounts/9685187/events/5301163
The Kings School, Ottery St Mary, Devon, UK, direct via GB1OSM
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be GB1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Contact is a go for: Mon 2016-05-09 09:26:30 UTC 62 deg
Watch for HamTV during this contact.
H.A.L. School, Lucknow, India, telebridge via K6DUE
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Contact is a go for Option #7: Thu 2016-05-12 08:11:20 UTC 79 deg
AstroNuts Kids Space Club Academy, David Dunlap Observatory, Richmond
Hill, Ontario, Canada, telebridge via W6SRJ (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Contact is a go for Option #1: Sat 2016-05-14 17:37:12 UTC 33 deg
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**
ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@xxxxx.xxx or aj9n@xxx.xxx.
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***
All ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise noted.
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***
Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. That has now been changed to
http://www.ariss.org/
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
****************************************************************************
Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete
details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.
http://www.ariss-eu.org/
If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
****************************************************************************
ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:
Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 117
Francesco IK?WGF with 116
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The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date
webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are
additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.
Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8061 date
and
time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-05-07 06:00 UTC.
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1054. (***)
Each school counts as 1 event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1019. (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.
A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas, Delaware,South Dakota,Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern
Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands. (***)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
QSL information may be found at:
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html
ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS
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The successful school list has been updated as of 2016-05-07 06:00 UTC.
(***)
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf
Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf
Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts
https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp. 46 on orbit
Tim Kopra KE5UDN
Timothy Peake KG5BVI
Yuri Malenchenko RK3DUP
Exp. 47 on orbit
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU
Aleksey Ovchinin
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73,
Charlie Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 10:49:37 +0100
From: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <APBIDDLE@xxxxxxx.xxx>, "'Zach Leffke'" <zleffke@xx.xxx>,
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-73 telemetry received via FO-29
Message-ID: <862F8FD6DB484506911D63EB735B645E@xxxxxxx.xxxxx>
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reply-type=original
Hi All,
Yes there is lots of history for DOHOP operations - for instance see
ftp://www.amsat.org/amsat/news/1996/spc0401.txt
I can remember when the late G4CUO was very active over here.
Anyway we are always pleased to hear that the telemetry downlinks from
FUNcube-1 are being used in novel ways.
73
Graham
G3VZV
-----Original Message-----
From: Alan
Sent: Saturday, May 07, 2016 12:17 AM
To: 'Zach Leffke' ; amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-73 telemetry received via FO-29
Zach,
Probably the first telemetry relay, but not quite the first relay. I recall
literally decades ago
there was a relay, probably but not definitely from 70 cm to 2 m to 10 m.
It might have included AO-7
in its first incarnation. Perhaps some of the really OTs might recall the
details. Still, a great
achievement. Especially calculating the hop to hop Doppler!
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Zach Leffke
<Sent: Friday, May 06, 2016 5:36 PM
<To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-73 telemetry received via FO-29
<
<AHHHHHHHHHH...........
<
<you beat me to the punch!!!!!!!!!!!!
<
<We also received AO-73's signal via FO-29 today at the VTGS (we only got
<6 packets!).
<
<We did this as part of a class project for ECE-4644 Satellite
<Communications, and the students that were with me during the
<observation of the event received a half letter grade bump on their
<grade for the class project. The student project was to build a piece
<of simulation software that would predict when the chain events between
<the two birds would occur and to compute the doppler offset and link
<budget in one second time steps for each event in a two week period.
<I'm proud to say they not only predicted when the event would occur,
<they were SPOT ON in the doppler computation (from around +5 kHz to
<about +10kHz offset from center of FO-29's downlink here in Blacksburg VA).
<
<
<Score for Amateur Radio supporting Students' Education!
<
<And Congratulations Paul! If I'm not mistaken, this is a first ever in
<Amateur Radio satellite work, reception of a crosslink? Way to go!
<
<-Zach, KJ4QLP
<
<Research Associate
<Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology
<Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
<Work Phone: 540-231-4174
<Cell Phone: 540-808-6305
<
<On 5/6/2016 1:11 PM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
<> Good afternoon,
<>
<> I was able to decode 9 packets of telemetry from AO-73 via FO-29's
<> transponder at 1647 UTC today. Signals were unusually strong as the
<> satellites were close together, so I decided to try feeding my
<> recording of the pass into the Dashboard.
<>
<> See an image of the Dashboard and a screenshot from SatPC32 showing
<> where the two satellites were at the time here:
<>
<> https://twitter.com/PRStoetzer/status/728631296658944000
<>
<> I was using just an Arrow antenna, High Sierra Microwave LNAA432
<> preamp, and an FT-817.
<>
<> 73,
<>
<> Paul, N8HM
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 07 May 2016 06:52:00 -0400
From: skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS
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Yes, sir, that's the one. I'm very glad it worked it for you and the
kids. I'm feeling like a durn kid myself when I stand out in the parking
lot with my Arrow antenna and HT and digital recorder and get a big grin
on my face when I hear the astronaut's voice come over the radio. Well
worth the funny looks I get!
Keep up the good work!
Steve AI9IN
On 2016-05-06 23:41, Bob wrote:
> Hi Steve,
>
> I think you are talking about the All Saints Academy contact up here in
Rhode Island. Things went VERY well and we were fortunate to speak with
Astronaut Jeff Williams who was great with the kids and helped move things
along at a rapid pace -- all 24 students were able to ask their questions.
>
> A live stream recording is still online for a bit here:
http://livestream.com/accounts/9685187/events/5301163
>
> Be warned that the actual program begins at 3 hours 28 minutes 40 seconds.
The actual Q&A begins at 4 hours 13 minutes 50 seconds.
>
> 73, Bob, WB4SON
>
> On Fri, May 6, 2016 at 1:17 PM, <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Heard the astronaut side of the school contact really well here EM79. I
>> made a recording but I haven't checked it out yet.
>>
>> Max elevation here was 28 degrees but with nice flat area I could hear
>> ISS horizon to horizon.
>>
>> Steve AI9IN
>> _______________________________________________
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 7 May 2016 07:11:32 -0600
From: Lee Ernstrom <lee.ernstrom@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Norwegian Pearl Photos and SAT OPs
Message-ID: <1C5B3F63-7ACB-4206-BF9F-D5246F16D510@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Hi Bob,
I thought your call looked familiar. We had two QSOs on Sept 21, 2015, one
on FO-29 and one on SO-50.
Everyone told me that SAT operations were not allowed on cruise ships, but I
heard from someone that they secured a reciprocal ham license from the
country of the ship registry and had to jump through some other hoops, etc.
So a year ago I applied for and received a Bahamas reciprocal license
(C6AQD) in anticipation of operating from the Norwegian Jewel last August
when we took an Alaskan cruise. That cruise would take us through some
mighty juice grids in CO land.
My BIG mistake was calling Norwegian and asking permission to operate. I
was told in no uncertain terms that ham radio operations from the cruise
ship is prohibited (nothing written in their policy that forbids this), and
that any radio equipment that would attempt to bring on board would be
confiscated. Well of course that news burst my bubble.
A couple weeks before our Alaskan cruise commenced my son, who was going on
the cruise with us and who lives in Lacy, Washington, told me that he was
taking a set of Walkie talkies and asked if I had a set that I could take so
that we could communicate with each other while we were aboard ship but in
different locations. I told him I would bring along mine. I figured that
if they got taken away from me no big deal.
As it turned out the walkie talkies did not get confiscated and my son and I
used them all over the ship and none of the ships officers even raised an
eyebrow!
That made me curious and I began wondering what the real policy was. My
daughter and son-in-law who lives in Laveen, Arizona surprised my wife and I
with a certificate for an inside tour of the ship so we were able to see how
the ship operates so smoothly. The tour ends up with a tour of the bridge
where we met captain, first officer, and other ship drivers. When the tour
was over and the people on the tour had all left I lingered behind long
enough to corner the first officer, a real nice accommodating gentleman from
Croatia.
I told him I was a ham radio operator and that I have at home Hand held
radios and a hand held antenna and I was wondering if it would be
permissible on my next cruise to bring those along with me and communicate
with my ham friends around the country through orbiting ham radio
satellites. I was expecting the worst, but his answer to me blew me away!
He told me that the ship operates under international law and if what I
would be doing would not violate international law then they would have no
problem with this activity!
I immediately thought to myself, "Why did I ask permission from the
companies bureaucrats!"
On this west coast cruise, therefore, I boldly went where no one said I
could go, to the back of the ship where I assembled my Arrow Antenna in
front of God and everyone else and worked SO-50! It was funny, I heard some
lady whisper to her friend, "He must be listening for whales."
I smiled at her and shook my head and replied, "The whales are down there."
All of my QSOs that I made except those from CN78 were from the back of the
ship because from there I could work the complete pass, especially the
overhead passes.
My wife and I will be taking an east coast cruise this fall and my radios
and Arrow antenna will be along with us.
73, Doc, WA7HQD/C6AQD
Sent from my iPad
> On May 6, 2016, at 8:07 PM, "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Lee,
>
> I followed your exploits on the NCL Pearl with interest since
> my wife and I had just taken a cruise on that ship in March
> from Miami to PJ2/HK/HP/TI and back. I've never done any
> SAT work from the many cruises we've been on, but I've done
> plenty of Grid Expeditions - see my QRZ.com page.
>
> Your QRZ page is very interesting and well-done. Excellent
> pix of your SAT operations.
>
> BTW, I've been friends with K8YSE for almost 40 years and he
> was my boss for a bit of that time when we were Engineers at
> the Phone Company. We meet for lunch every few months when
> he's not in AZ or FL - HIHI.
>
> Maybe we'll meet on the birds some day!
>
> 73, Bob K8BL
>
>
> From: Lee Ernstrom <lee.ernstrom@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Friday, May 6, 2016 6:37 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Norwegian Pearl Photos and SAT OPs
>
> If anyone is interested in seeing some photos of my satellite operation
> aboard the Norwegian Pearl please check out my QRZ.com page. I just
> finished uploading three photos.
>
> 73, Doc
> WA7HQD
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