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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: HF Satellite Transponder (Andrew Glasbrenner)
   2. Re: HF Satellite Transponder (Peter Laws)
   3. Re: HF Satellite Transponder (randyw4412)
   4. Re: HF Satellite Transponder (Jim Walls)
   5. Re: HF Satellite Transponder (Kelly Keeton)
   6. Re: HF Satellite Transponder (Bob- W7LRD)
   7. Re: HF Satellite Transponder (Robert Bruninga)
   8. Re: HF Satellite Transponder (Joe)
   9. Re: HF Satellite Transponder (Andrew Glasbrenner)
  10. Re: HF Satellite Transponder (Andrew Glasbrenner)
  11. Re: HF Satellite Transponder (Peter Laws)
  12. HF-HF satellite (Richard Lawn)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 15:38:38 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Tom DF5JL'" <df5jl@xxxx.xx>,	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder
Message-ID: <083b01d1b786$338a3010$9a9e9030$@xxx>
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You are confusing a bandplan with an allocation. You may want to check
http://www.itu.int/en/ITU-R/space/AmateurDoc/ARS-ART5_E.pdf for the actual
allocations.

73, Drew KO4MA

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Tom DF5JL
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 3:29 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder

Sorry,

But on hf only allocations for satellite ops are existing within 29.300
- 29.510 kHz for IARU Region 2:
http://www.iaru-r2.org/documents/explorer/files/Plan%20de%20bandas%20%7C%20B
and-plan/R2%20Band%20Plan%202013.pdf

Same as in Region 1 and 3:

http://www.iaru-r1.org/index.php/documents/func-download/404/chk,fc90aa26474
640bdeafda3efaf42839f/no_html,1/
http://iaru-r3.org/?dl_id=1

Bandplans were modified from time to time ;-)

So please contact your IARU HF Manager for further information.

73 Tom DF5JL

Am 26.05.2016 um 20:35 schrieb Paul Stoetzer:
> Yes, the Amateur Satellite Service has allocations in 40m (7.000 -
> 7.100 only), 20m (14.000 - 14.250 only), 17m, 15m, 12m, and 10m
> (entire band for the last four).
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> is sat operations even legal on that band? 12M?
>>
>> The old Russian 15 & 10 meters were cool,
>>
>> I'd like to see a good old mode "A" myself. It has to be the easiest
>> ( except for the FM Channel repeater on a very tall tower equivalent
>> birds)
>>
>> Extreme simple gear can get you on Mode "A"
>>
>> Ive done it with a dipole on 10 and a coathanger GP on 2 and the 2
>> transmitter was a FM rig with the mic disconnected and a straight key
>> on the PTT. it was a little chirpy but hey worked like 30 states with
>> that simple thing.
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>
>> On 5/26/2016 12:45 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>>
>>> I may have a launch opportunity for an HF=HF transponder for a
>>> possible cubesat idea.  Probably something like 12m up and 10m down?
>>>
>>> Is this worth doing (re-doing) at this point of technology?  Enough
>>> bandwidth to support a few voice channels?
>>>
>>> Any volunteers to build the translator board?
>>>
>>> How is 24 MHz band used?  The entire SSB portion of the band is only
>>> 60 kHz, so using say 15 kHz for a linear translator to 10m would be
>>> quite a slice.  But then the downlink at 10m would be OK since it
>>> does have an exclusive satellite band and so any inadvertent QSO's
>>> would be coming down in a non-competing downlink
>>>
>>> Just some open ended thinking after Dayton.
>>>
>>> Bob, WB4aPR
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 14:37:06 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Tom DF5JL <df5jl@xxxx.xx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder
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On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:28 PM, Tom DF5JL <df5jl@xxxx.xx> wrote:
>
>
> But on hf only allocations for satellite ops are existing within 29.300
> - 29.510 kHz for IARU Region 2:


People get sloppy sometimes.  That should have said "US FCC
regulations allow space stations over the entire 10m band"
(specifically, 47 CFR 97.207(c)(1)).




--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 14:53:14 -0500
From: randyw4412 <randyw4412@xxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder
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Mode A for me WB4LHD?


Sent from my Sprint Samsung Galaxy S? 6.-------- Original message
--------From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> Date: 5/26/2016  1:35 PM 
(GMT-06:00) To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx Subject: Re:
[amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder
Yes, the Amateur Satellite Service has allocations in 40m (7.000 - 7.100
only), 20m (14.000 - 14.250 only), 17m, 15m, 12m, and 10m (entire band for
the last four).

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 2:21 PM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> is sat operations even legal on that band? 12M?
>
> The old Russian 15 & 10 meters were cool,
>
> I'd like to see a good old mode "A" myself. It has to be the easiest (
> except for the FM Channel repeater on a very tall tower equivalent birds)
>
> Extreme simple gear can get you on Mode "A"
>
> Ive done it with a dipole on 10 and a coathanger GP on 2 and the 2
> transmitter was a FM rig with the mic disconnected and a straight key on
> the PTT. it was a little chirpy but hey worked like 30 states with that
> simple thing.
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>
> On 5/26/2016 12:45 PM, Robert Bruninga wrote:
>
>> I may have a launch opportunity for an HF=HF transponder for a possible
>> cubesat idea.? Probably something like 12m up and 10m down?
>>
>> Is this worth doing (re-doing) at this point of technology?? Enough
>> bandwidth to support a few voice channels?
>>
>> Any volunteers to build the translator board?
>>
>> How is 24 MHz band used?? The entire SSB portion of the band is only 60
>> kHz, so using say 15 kHz for a linear translator to 10m would be quite a
>> slice.? But then the downlink at 10m would be OK since it does have an
>> exclusive satellite band and so any inadvertent QSO's would be coming down
>> in a non-competing downlink
>>
>> Just some open ended thinking after Dayton.
>>
>> Bob, WB4aPR
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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> AMSAT-NA.
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>
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 13:13:05 -0700
From: "Jim Walls" <jim@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder
Message-ID: <3f91a4050bb54f33a4a0f0eb54f3d1cc@xxxxx.xxx>
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Joe WB9SBD said (in part):
 > Extreme simple gear can get you on Mode "A"

 If you have an HF radio...
   (Or in my case - a working one)

 These days, a lot of hams don't have HF capability, and many have no
desire to add that capability.


Jim - K6CCC




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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 14:21:53 -0700
From: Kelly Keeton <kellyrkeeton@xxxxx.xxx>
To: jim@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder
Message-ID: <4F335880-229A-4BB2-90BE-44E1CD918634@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Just like some have no desire for VHF or higher. A major majority of hams
have no gig or higher. If we limit ourselves to what we assume others want
we limit progress and learning and stuff, that's not good.



Sent from a mobile device.

> On May 26, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Jim Walls <jim@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Joe WB9SBD said (in part):
>> Extreme simple gear can get you on Mode "A"
>
> If you have an HF radio...
>   (Or in my case - a working one)
>
> These days, a lot of hams don't have HF capability, and many have no
> desire to add that capability.
>
>
> Jim - K6CCC
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 21:27:02 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Kelly Keeton <kellyrkeeton@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder
Message-ID:
<1257015731.6784777.1464298022125.JavaMail.zimbra@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

I hear nothing about using S band. It was great on AO40 (sobsob). We cobbled
together cheap S band down converters
73 Bob W7LRD

----- Original Message -----

From: "Kelly Keeton" <kellyrkeeton@xxxxx.xxx>
To: jim@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 2:21:53 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder

Just like some have no desire for VHF or higher. A major majority of hams
have no gig or higher. If we limit ourselves to what we assume others want
we limit progress and learning and stuff, that's not good.



Sent from a mobile device.

> On May 26, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Jim Walls <jim@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Joe WB9SBD said (in part):
>> Extreme simple gear can get you on Mode "A"
>
> If you have an HF radio...
> (Or in my case - a working one)
>
> These days, a lot of hams don't have HF capability, and many have no
> desire to add that capability.
>
>
> Jim - K6CCC
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
_______________________________________________
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to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 17:42:47 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder
Message-ID:
<CALdCfNJ6DAm8eyu5DKn6RSzVWDP0UmDwZTxRaCsv3m65ZR7UiQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I find that RS12/13 had 8 watt transponders.  WOW!  That's for 40 kHz
bandwidth.

Or if one user was in the passband, then he got all 8 watts!?  That coiuld
be a very loud signal?  What was Mode A and KT downlinks like?  Were they
armchair copy or pull them out of the noise contacts?

To get down to say the 2 watt level for a cubesat, then this suggests only
a 10 kHz wide transponder.  And with 3 kHz signals, that could only be 3
signals.  AND, what is it like near the edges of a super narrow filter?
Does the steep phase changes on the edge of the filter then distort SSB?


Bob, WB4APR

On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

> A 15 to 10 Mode K satellite would be fun. 12 meters is allocated to the
> Amateur Satellite Service, of course, but the limited bandwidth of the band
> might cause conflicts if the satellite continues to function when the solar
> cycle starts to perk up again. 15 meters, on the other hand, has plenty of
> room, especially if you put the uplink somewhere above 21.400.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, May 26, 2016 a>
>


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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 17:00:28 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder
Message-ID: <1803dadd-27f2-df4d-8607-59a35608f1d2@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

That's True. I forgot that 99% new hams no longer come into the hobby
via the HF bands.

Back in the old days it was the other way around he he he. Everyone or
most everyone had HF.

Joe
WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 5/26/2016 3:13 PM, Jim Walls wrote:
> Joe WB9SBD said (in part):
>   > Extreme simple gear can get you on Mode "A"
>
>   If you have an HF radio...
>     (Or in my case - a working one)
>
>   These days, a lot of hams don't have HF capability, and many have no
> desire to add that capability.
>
>
> Jim - K6CCC
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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>
>



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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 18:14:26 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder
Message-ID: <6082EA08-D035-4ABF-98C2-D1EDEF8EA5C0@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

All,
Bob specifically asked about a HF to HF transponder, presumably because the
opportunity was limited to such an animal. Let's keep that in mind.

73, Drew KO4MA

> On May 26, 2016, at 5:27 PM, Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> I hear nothing about using S band. It was great on AO40 (sobsob). We
cobbled together cheap S band down converters
> 73 Bob W7LRD
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Kelly Keeton" <kellyrkeeton@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: jim@xxxxx.xxx
> Cc: "amsat-bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2016 2:21:53 PM
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder
>
> Just like some have no desire for VHF or higher. A major majority of hams
have no gig or higher. If we limit ourselves to what we assume others want
we limit progress and learning and stuff, that's not good.
>
>
>
> Sent from a mobile device.
>
>> On May 26, 2016, at 1:13 PM, Jim Walls <jim@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD said (in part):
>>> Extreme simple gear can get you on Mode "A"
>>
>> If you have an HF radio...
>> (Or in my case - a working one)
>>
>> These days, a lot of hams don't have HF capability, and many have no
>> desire to add that capability.
>>
>>
>> Jim - K6CCC
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 18:17:37 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder
Message-ID: <E7A67E99-76E8-4679-8B75-E7BD0CDF6516@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

It was extremely strong. I often worked it listening with a magmount
antenna. 2w and 20khz would work fine.

73, Drew KO4MA

> On May 26, 2016, at 5:42 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> I find that RS12/13 had 8 watt transponders.  WOW!  That's for 40 kHz
> bandwidth.
>
> Or if one user was in the passband, then he got all 8 watts!?  That coiuld
> be a very loud signal?  What was Mode A and KT downlinks like?  Were they
> armchair copy or pull them out of the noise contacts?
>
> To get down to say the 2 watt level for a cubesat, then this suggests only
> a 10 kHz wide transponder.  And with 3 kHz signals, that could only be 3
> signals.  AND, what is it like near the edges of a super narrow filter?
> Does the steep phase changes on the edge of the filter then distort SSB?
>
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
>> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 1:49 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> A 15 to 10 Mode K satellite would be fun. 12 meters is allocated to the
>> Amateur Satellite Service, of course, but the limited bandwidth of the band
>> might cause conflicts if the satellite continues to function when the solar
>> cycle starts to perk up again. 15 meters, on the other hand, has plenty of
>> room, especially if you put the uplink somewhere above 21.400.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 1:45 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I may have a launch opportunity for an HF=HF transponder for a possible
>>> cubesat idea.  Probably something like 12m up and 10m down?
>>>
>>> Is this worth doing (re-doing) at this point of technology?  Enough
>>> bandwidth to support a few voice channels?
>>>
>>> Any volunteers to build the translator board?
>>>
>>> How is 24 MHz band used?  The entire SSB portion of the band is only 60
>>> kHz, so using say 15 kHz for a linear translator to 10m would be quite a
>>> slice.  But then the downlink at 10m would be OK since it does have an
>>> exclusive satellite band and so any inadvertent QSO's would be coming down
>>> in a non-competing downlink
>>>
>>> Just some open ended thinking after Dayton.
>>>
>>> Bob, WB4aPR
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 16:43:45 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Satellite Transponder
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On Thu, May 26, 2016 at 4:21 PM, Kelly Keeton <kellyrkeeton@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Just like some have no desire for VHF or higher. A major majority of hams
have no gig or higher. If we limit ourselves to what we assume others want
we limit progress and learning and stuff, that's not good.

Some are convinced that "real ham radio" ended with Novice
Enhancement, or removal of code from the Technician license in '91 or
the withdrawal of Elements 1B and 1C in 2000 or ... or ... Whatever.

I know the test sessions I lead are busy as was the Tech/General class
our club ran this past spring and I also know that some of the newbies
aren't often heard On The Ultra Highs because they are too busy on HF
(listen for some of them on our local 10m net, Wednesdays at 2000 CT,
on 28445 kHz).

Getting above 1 GHz isn't easy.  Actually, 900 isn't that easy,
either.  In fact, I'm looking for a clean IC910H with the L-band
module so I can do just as you suggest.  :-)

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Date: Thu, 26 May 2016 18:26:32 -0400
From: Richard Lawn <rjlawn@xxxxx.xxx>
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Subject: [amsat-bb] HF-HF satellite
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I would add that I too got my start with the Russian RS satellites and
would cast my preference for 15 and 10 meters as there is plenty of band
width even if propagation on HF improves. I had good fun working the RS
satellites with mnimal antennas and other equipment. I have no doubt that
if we had a new bird on the HF bands it would be very active and get a lot
of new comers hooked.
Rick, W2JAZ


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