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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Fw: HF-HF satellite (OSCAR LOCATOR?) (Robert Bruninga)
2. Re: Fw: HF-HF satellite (OSCAR LOCATOR?) (Alan)
3. Re: Fw: HF-HF satellite (OSCAR LOCATOR?) (?ngel Pel?ez Mart?nez)
4. New VHF, UHF, uW Handbook available for download (M5AKA)
5. Re: Fw: HF-HF satellite (OSCAR LOCATOR?) (Bob)
6. LVB Trackers Available (Paul Stoetzer)
7. Re: HF-HF satellite (Michael Adams)
8. Re: HF-HF satellite (Andrew Glasbrenner)
9. Re: Fw: HF-HF satellite (OSCAR LOCATOR?) (R.T.Liddy)
10. Re: HF-HF satellite (Joe)
11. ESA announce competition winers (M5AKA)
12. Re: HF-HF satellite (Robert Switzer)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 10:09:32 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fw: HF-HF satellite (OSCAR LOCATOR?)
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> Sat tracking in the early days was with an AMSAT
> OSCAR-LOCATOR (Rotating mylar discs over a global map!!).
I just googled and there is only one image of an OSCARLOCATOR I can find.
I remember it well, but am confused by this image:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/images/oscarlocator.jpg
I understand the curved trace. It crosses near the pole at the latitude of
the inclination of the orbit. And I understand the circular plot which is
angle and elevation from your QTH when placed over your house. But I do
not understand the straight line scale going nearly vertical and labeled
RS? WHy is there no curve to it?
And the only other one I found was this:
http://www.studiorite.com/oldindex/images/OscarLocator1sm.jpg
Which looks like it has the orbits of three different satellites, one of
them added on in green marker. But this one is lacking the AZ/EL circle
for the station.
Is there a better image anywhere that I can use to justify this "minimum
satcom" experiment?
And is this how it worked? You got the daily zero crossing of the
equator. Then for the next 24 hours you could just rotate the plastic
overlay by the longitude increment? ANd increment the time by the orbital
period?
On a trip and without a smart phone, I'd rather do an OSCAR locator then
fuss with a PC...
Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 09:40:25 -0500
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Robert Bruninga'" <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, "'amsat bb'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fw: HF-HF satellite (OSCAR LOCATOR?)
Message-ID: <000001d1b825$b53c8c80$1fb5a580$@xxxxx.xxx>
Bob,
You might be interesting in this computerized version:
http://www.tomdoyle.org/OscarLocator/OscarLocator.html
Neat, and kind of reminds me of the mythical microprocessor driven slide
rule we joked about in
graduate school. ca 1975.
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Robert
Bruninga
<Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 9:10 AM
<To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fw: HF-HF satellite (OSCAR LOCATOR?)
<
<> Sat tracking in the early days was with an AMSAT
<> OSCAR-LOCATOR (Rotating mylar discs over a global map!!).
<
<I just googled and there is only one image of an OSCARLOCATOR I can find.
<I remember it well, but am confused by this image:
<http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/images/oscarlocator.jpg
<
<I understand the curved trace. It crosses near the pole at the latitude of
<the inclination of the orbit. And I understand the circular plot which is
<angle and elevation from your QTH when placed over your house. But I do
<not understand the straight line scale going nearly vertical and labeled
<RS? WHy is there no curve to it?
<
<And the only other one I found was this:
<http://www.studiorite.com/oldindex/images/OscarLocator1sm.jpg
<
<Which looks like it has the orbits of three different satellites, one of
<them added on in green marker. But this one is lacking the AZ/EL circle
<for the station.
<
<Is there a better image anywhere that I can use to justify this "minimum
<satcom" experiment?
<
<And is this how it worked? You got the daily zero crossing of the
<equator. Then for the next 24 hours you could just rotate the plastic
<overlay by the longitude increment? ANd increment the time by the orbital
<period?
<
<On a trip and without a smart phone, I'd rather do an OSCAR locator then
<fuss with a PC...
<
<Bob, WB4APR
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 16:38:12 +0200
From: ?ngel Pel?ez Mart?nez <angelkilroy@xxxxx.xx>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fw: HF-HF satellite (OSCAR LOCATOR?)
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Hi Bob,
Rather than vertical, I see a very steep orbit, near to 90deg. It resembles
a straight line, but it is a curved one indeed, with time increment
calibration after EQX.
I hope my explanation be useful.
Best 73.
EA4DUT, Angel
Enviado desde mi iPhone
El 27/5/2016, a las 16:09, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> escribi?:
>> Sat tracking in the early days was with an AMSAT
>> OSCAR-LOCATOR (Rotating mylar discs over a global map!!).
>
> I just googled and there is only one image of an OSCARLOCATOR I can find.
> I remember it well, but am confused by this image:
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/images/oscarlocator.jpg
>
> I understand the curved trace. It crosses near the pole at the latitude of
> the inclination of the orbit. And I understand the circular plot which is
> angle and elevation from your QTH when placed over your house. But I do
> not understand the straight line scale going nearly vertical and labeled
> RS? WHy is there no curve to it?
>
> And the only other one I found was this:
> http://www.studiorite.com/oldindex/images/OscarLocator1sm.jpg
>
> Which looks like it has the orbits of three different satellites, one of
> them added on in green marker. But this one is lacking the AZ/EL circle
> for the station.
>
> Is there a better image anywhere that I can use to justify this "minimum
> satcom" experiment?
>
> And is this how it worked? You got the daily zero crossing of the
> equator. Then for the next 24 hours you could just rotate the plastic
> overlay by the longitude increment? ANd increment the time by the orbital
> period?
>
> On a trip and without a smart phone, I'd rather do an OSCAR locator then
> fuss with a PC...
>
> Bob, WB4APR
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 14:51:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] New VHF, UHF, uW Handbook available for download
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Version 7.5 of the IARU Region 1 VHF Handbook is now available for download.
The key Amateur Satellite section is on pages 123-131. There are also
chapters on Band Planning, Contests, Propagation Research, Operating
Procedures. Page 116 defines which way to thread a helical beam antenna.
http://www.iaru-r1.org/index.php/documents/Documents/VHF/Handbook-7.50.pdf/
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 11:03:51 -0400
From: Bob <WB4SON@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fw: HF-HF satellite (OSCAR LOCATOR?)
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Oh I remember that well -- thanks for bringing that memory back! And I
know I have mine in a box somewhere.
PDF files of one version are here: http://www.qsl.net/pe1rah/oscarlator.htm
I seem to recall using the locator to establish a baseline orbit off of
ephemeris data that was received via ARRL CW bulletins (I think I remember
that correctly), then using that baseline to feed into a HP 9830 desktop
calculator which ran interpolation routines to give me a week's worth of
rise data. The local HP rep loaned me that calculator (I was in middle
school at the time). My parents had no idea that HP was worth about half
the price of their home back in 1972 (nor did I).
73, Bob, WB4SON
On Fri, May 27, 2016 at 10:38 AM, ?ngel Pel?ez Mart?nez <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> Hi Bob,
> Rather than vertical, I see a very steep orbit, near to 90deg. It
> resembles a straight line, but it is a curved one indeed, with time
> increment calibration after EQX.
> I hope my explanation be useful.
> Best 73.
> EA4DUT, Angel
>
> Enviado desde mi iPhone
>
> El 27/5/2016, a las 16:09, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> escribi?:
>
> >> Sat tracking in the early days was with an AMSAT
> >> OSCAR-LOCATOR (Rotating mylar discs over a global map!!).
> >
> > I just googled and there is only one image of an OSCARLOCATOR I can find.
> > I remember it well, but am confused by this image:
> > http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/images/oscarlocator.jpg
> >
> > I understand the curved trace. It crosses near the pole at the latitude
> of
> > the inclination of the orbit. And I understand the circular plot which
> is
> > angle and elevation from your QTH when placed over your house. But I do
> > not understand the straight line scale going nearly vertical and labeled
> > RS? WHy is there no curve to it?
> >
> > And the only other one I found was this:
> > http://www.studiorite.com/oldindex/images/OscarLocator1sm.jpg
> >
> > Which looks like it has the orbits of three different satellites, one of
> > them added on in green marker. But this one is lacking the AZ/EL circle
> > for the station.
> >
> > Is there a better image anywhere that I can use to justify this "minimum
> > satcom" experiment?
> >
> > And is this how it worked? You got the daily zero crossing of the
> > equator. Then for the next 24 hours you could just rotate the plastic
> > overlay by the longitude increment? ANd increment the time by the
> orbital
> > period?
> >
> > On a trip and without a smart phone, I'd rather do an OSCAR locator then
> > fuss with a PC...
> >
> > Bob, WB4APR
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 11:17:02 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] LVB Trackers Available
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A limited number of fully tested and assembled LVB Trackers are now
available on the AMSAT store. Please remember that the AMSAT office is
a one person office and that the office is currently closed for the
holiday weekend until Wednesday.
The price is $200 + shipping.
http://store.amsat.org/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=1_25&products_id=62
73,
Paul, N8HM
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 14:12:54 +0000
From: Michael Adams <mda@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF-HF satellite
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How expensive is an HF-capable SDR RX dongle these days?
--
Michael Adams | mda@xxxx.xxx
-----Original Message-----
A mode K satellite would be cool, but not many rigs can do full duplex on
Mode K. The FT847, TS2000 and Icom 9100 can't. It would almost take 2 HF
rigs, or a Yaesu FTDX9000,
73 John AF5CC
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 11:56:39 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Michael Adams <mda@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF-HF satellite
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Less than 20$.
> On May 27, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Michael Adams <mda@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> How expensive is an HF-capable SDR RX dongle these days?
>
> --
> Michael Adams | mda@xxxx.xxx
>
> -----Original Message-----
>
> A mode K satellite would be cool, but not many rigs can do full duplex on
Mode K. The FT847, TS2000 and Icom 9100 can't. It would almost take 2 HF
rigs, or a Yaesu FTDX9000,
>
> 73 John AF5CC
>
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 15:58:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fw: HF-HF satellite (OSCAR LOCATOR?)
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Hi Bob,
The OSCARLOCATOR I have has a page w/overlays for AO-7
and AO-8. The whole document is a tri-fold with explicit instructions
and a history table of OSCAR 1 through Phase IIIA.
I'll color copy it and mail it to you. (It's from 1981.)
Somewhere, I have the Polar Projection Globe Sheets with the mylar
overlays for various RS Birds that came from an early Satellite Handbook.
When I go on a trip, I go to the AMSAT Pass Predictor and enter the Grids
that I plan to be in and copy the data for the Sat's I plan to use. And, when
I get to the location, I find North and set up my Arrow on my Camera Tripod
and start working stations AOS-LOS according to the data. Works great for me
and no computer needed in the field.
73, ? ?Bob K8BL
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2016 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Fw: HF-HF satellite (OSCAR LOCATOR?)
>? Sat tracking in the early days was with an AMSAT
> OSCAR-LOCATOR (Rotating mylar discs over a global map!!).
I just googled and there is only one image of an OSCARLOCATOR I can find.
I remember it well, but am confused by this image:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/tools/images/oscarlocator.jpg
I understand the curved trace.? It crosses near the pole at the latitude of
the inclination of the orbit.? And I understand the circular plot which is
angle and elevation from your QTH when placed over your house.? But I do
not understand the straight line scale going nearly vertical and labeled
RS?? WHy is there no curve to it?
And the only other one I found was this:
http://www.studiorite.com/oldindex/images/OscarLocator1sm.jpg
Which looks like it has the orbits of three different satellites, one of
them added on in green marker.? But this one is lacking the AZ/EL circle
for the station.
Is there a better image anywhere that I can use to justify this "minimum
satcom" experiment?
And is this how it worked?? You got the daily zero crossing of the
equator.? Then for the next 24 hours you could just rotate the plastic
overlay by the longitude increment?? ANd increment the time by the orbital
period?
On a trip and without a smart phone, I'd rather do an OSCAR locator then
fuss with a PC...
Bob, WB4APR
_______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 11:00:29 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF-HF satellite
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yeah and the 20 buck ones are deaf as a dummyload, and once the signals
are strong enough there is soo much spurious signals, what one is the
real one?
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 5/27/2016 10:56 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> Less than 20$.
>
>> On May 27, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Michael Adams <mda@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> How expensive is an HF-capable SDR RX dongle these days?
>>
>> --
>> Michael Adams | mda@xxxx.xxx
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> A mode K satellite would be cool, but not many rigs can do full duplex on
Mode K. The FT847, TS2000 and Icom 9100 can't. It would almost take 2 HF
rigs, or a Yaesu FTDX9000,
>>
>> 73 John AF5CC
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 16:12:05 +0000 (UTC)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ESA announce competition winers
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ESA has announced the winners of the competition to receive the CubeSats
launched April 25
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/05/27/esa-radio-ham-winners/
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 27 May 2016 16:15:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Switzer <rs2atmink@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF-HF satellite
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On Friday, May 27, 2016 12:01 PM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
yeah and the 20 buck ones are deaf as a dummyload, and once the signals
are strong enough there is soo much spurious signals, what one is the
real one?
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 5/27/2016 10:56 AM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> Less than 20$.
>
>> On May 27, 2016, at 10:12 AM, Michael Adams <mda@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> How expensive is an HF-capable SDR RX dongle these days?
>>
>> --
>> Michael Adams | mda@xxxx.xxx
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> A mode K satellite would be cool, but not many rigs can do full duplex on
Mode K. The FT847, TS2000 and Icom 9100 can't.? It would almost take 2 HF
rigs, or a Yaesu FTDX9000,
>>
>> 73 John AF5CC
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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