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Today's Topics:
1. AO-85 & HT (Kevin Ehm)
2. Re: AO-85 & HT (Bill Dillon)
3. Re: AO-85 & HT (Bob)
4. Re: AO-85 & HT (John Becker)
5. Re: AO-85 & HT (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
6. Re: AO-85 & HT (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
7. AO-85 & HT (Clayton Coleman)
8. Re: AO-85 & HT (Bill Dillon)
9. Re: AO-85 & HT (Peter Laws)
10. HT vs ??? (Fwd: [VHFcontesting] FS: Icom IC-9100 with options
(Peter Laws)
11. Re: AO-85 & HT (Tim N8DEU)
12. Re: AO-85 & HT (Fernando Ramirez)
13. Polarization (Ken Alexander)
14. EsHail Microwave transponder satellite (Stan, W1LE)
15. Fwd: HamRadioNow: TAPR & APRS Forum Videos at 2016 Hamvention
(Mark Thompson)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 09:26:42 -0800
From: Kevin Ehm <kevinehm@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 & HT
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I?m having great difficulty hitting and receiving AO-85 with my Yaesu VX 6r.
I have read about the frequencies, and that I?m not alone in the boat with
HT?s and only 5 watts. I?m in BP51, and used to hit the easy ones when they
were working. Am I simply wasting my time with AO-85?
Thanks,
Kevin
KL2RQ
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 13:06:08 -0500
From: Bill Dillon <bill.g.dillon@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 & HT
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Hi Kevin,
No, you're not wasting your time with AO-85. I also use a Yaesu VX 6R for
all my Sat contacts, and have made several with AO-85. That said, AO-85 is
much more difficult to work for me than SO-50. All my successful contacts
have been made with an elevation above 45 degrees, so range may be a
factor. I've also read (but haven't tried yet) about the trick of rotating
the antenna 90 degrees on transmit, once you've established the best
receive orientation.
73 de Bill, KG5FQX
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 12:26 PM, Kevin Ehm <kevinehm@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> I?m having great difficulty hitting and receiving AO-85 with my Yaesu VX
> 6r. I have read about the frequencies, and that I?m not alone in the boat
> with HT?s and only 5 watts. I?m in BP51, and used to hit the easy ones
> when they were working. Am I simply wasting my time with AO-85?
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
> KL2RQ
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 14:29:16 -0400
From: Bob <WB4SON@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Bill Dillon <bill.g.dillon@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 & HT
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>From this post on the AMSAT.ORG website: http://www.amsat.org/?p=4726
"Probably the most notable observations about AO-85 are an apparent lack of
sensitivity and difficulty in turning on the repeater with the 67 Hz CTCSS
when it is not yet activated, or holding it on by the presence of the
CTCSS. We have determined a probable cause for the sensitivity issue and
while that can?t be fixed on AO-85 we are taking steps to prevent similar
issues on the rest of the Fox-1 CubeSats. The tone detection threshold
along with the receive sensitivity issue makes it hard to bring up the
repeater."
But like Bill said, you aren't wasting your time -- you will just find it
harder to work through AO-85 than SO-50. Trying to work it with low power
and linear antennas when it is low on the horizon won't be a great return
on the time invested.
On the other hand, if you can't hear it then perhaps you have other RX
issues -- AO-85's TX signal is quite strong (the voice ID will be picked up
even without other activity).
73, Bob, WB4SON
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 13:16:18 -0500
From: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 & HT
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Is there a reason for using a HT and not a desk top rig such as FT847?
John
On 5/30/2016 12:26 PM, Kevin Ehm wrote:
> I?m having great difficulty hitting and receiving AO-85 with my Yaesu VX
6r. I have read about the frequencies, and that I?m not alone in the boat
with HT?s and only 5 watts. I?m in BP51, and used to hit the easy ones when
they were working. Am I simply wasting my time with AO-85?
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 14:38:30 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 & HT
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John,
I'm guessing not everyone has a radio like an FT-847 but they have an HT or
2. It's also easier to carry an HT outside vs. an 847.
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Samsung S4
On May 30, 2016 2:32 PM, "John Becker" <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Is there a reason for using a HT and not a desk top rig such as FT847?
>
> John
>
>
> On 5/30/2016 12:26 PM, Kevin Ehm wrote:
>
>> I?m having great difficulty hitting and receiving AO-85 with my Yaesu VX
>> 6r. I have read about the frequencies, and that I?m not alone in the boat
>> with HT?s and only 5 watts. I?m in BP51, and used to hit the easy ones
>> when they were working. Am I simply wasting my time with AO-85?
>>
>>
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 18:39:32 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 & HT
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Hi John!
For some, HTs are the only radios they may have. For others, it
is the challenge of using portable/QRP equipment to work the satellite.
It can be done, as WB4SON mentioned earlier (and others on this list
over the past few months). Not all passes will lead to success for
those using HTs with AO-85, but with planning many have had success
working this satellite with HTs. I'm in that group, using several
different HTs and combinations of radios to work AO-85 since its
launch - and using a few of the Chinese-made HTs to work it full-
duplex.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx
Is there a reason for using a HT and not a desk top rig such as FT847?
>
> John
>
>
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 13:46:37 -0500
From: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 & HT
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Because an FT-847 is hard to hold in one hand with an Arrow pointed at the
sky in your other hand.
73
Clayton
W5PFG
> Is there a reason for using a HT and not a desk top rig such as FT847?
>
> John
>
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 13:47:45 -0500
From: Bill Dillon <bill.g.dillon@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 & HT
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Yep: for me it's portability and ease of use. No worries about power
supply, or having a table to set up, just grab and go to a near-by field
where I have a good horizon.
At some point it would be nice to have a roof-mounted, sat-tracking antenna
for an indoor rig (no mosquitoes!), but I'm not there yet.
73 de Bill, KG5FQX
On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 1:16 PM, John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Is there a reason for using a HT and not a desk top rig such as FT847?
>
> John
>
>
> On 5/30/2016 12:26 PM, Kevin Ehm wrote:
>
>> I?m having great difficulty hitting and receiving AO-85 with my Yaesu VX
>> 6r. I have read about the frequencies, and that I?m not alone in the boat
>> with HT?s and only 5 watts. I?m in BP51, and used to hit the easy ones
>> when they were working. Am I simply wasting my time with AO-85?
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> expressed
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 14:06:32 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 & HT
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On Mon, May 30, 2016 at 1:46 PM, Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> Because an FT-847 is hard to hold in one hand with an Arrow pointed at the
> sky in your other hand.
Neck straps, brother, neck straps. :-D
--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 14:09:39 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] HT vs ??? (Fwd: [VHFcontesting] FS: Icom IC-9100
with options
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Here is another reason why some ops use HTs.
How many Baofengs can you buy for $2000? 50? 60?
That said, this is a pretty good price for a 9100. Note that it has
the D-STAR board and roofing filters.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Dave Whaley <nt9e@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Date: Sun, May 29, 2016 at 5:28 PM
Subject: [VHFcontesting] FS: Icom IC-9100 with options
To: VHFcontesting@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx
For Sale: Icom IC-9100 $2000 FIRM.
160m-10/6/2/70cm (1.2g option NOT included)
AM/CW/DV/FM/SSB
Installed options include DV board, 3khz and 6khz Roofing Filters
Purchased used in 2013. Installed options later.
Works great on all bands. The display is getting dim when turned on
but brightness increases within a few seconds and full brightness
within in a minute or two. Pick up preferable but will ship at your
cost.
--
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Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 14:12:05 -0500
From: Tim N8DEU <n8deu@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 & HT
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I seen a person use an FT-847 sitting on the rooftop of their car at an
AMSAT Symposium years ago with an Arrow in one hand and their wrist resting
on the top edge of the car for support to hold the antenna. The other hand
was free to hold the microphone and tune the radio. Just a thought on the
mechanics of the operation.
The car rooftop put the radio at a comfortable eye level position. It
appeared more portable in that arrangement rather than luggable hanging on a
shoulder...
Tim - N8DEU
Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Clayton Coleman<mailto:kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: ?5/?30/?2016 1:46 PM
To: AMSAT-BB<mailto:amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 & HT
Because an FT-847 is hard to hold in one hand with an Arrow pointed at the
sky in your other hand.
73
Clayton
W5PFG
> Is there a reason for using a HT and not a desk top rig such as FT847?
>
> John
>
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 12:48:47 -0700
From: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT -BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 & HT
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For me working AO-85 while QRP is all about the challenge. Of course, it is
way easier for me to work that satellite with 50 watts from a mobile rig,
but my most memorable QSOs on AO-85 (and SO-50) were achieved using only a
handheld antenna and a 4 watts handheld.
>From southern Arizona, I have worked as far as Alaska, Yukon Territory,
Curacao on SO-50 (that last one not easy from the Southwest) and Guadaloupe
Island on AO-85. My AO-85, 5,282km QSO with FG8OJ was completed on a 2
degrees pass using an UV-B5/FT-817nd and Arrow antenna.
It takes planning, practice, but above all, patience and perseverance!
73
Fernando, NP4JV
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From: Dave Webb KB1PVH
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2016 11:38 AM
To: AMSAT -BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-85 & HT
John,
I'm guessing not everyone has a radio like an FT-847 but they have an HT or
2. It's also easier to carry an HT outside vs. an 847.
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Samsung S4
On May 30, 2016 2:32 PM, "John Becker" <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Is there a reason for using a HT and not a desk top rig such as FT847?
>
> John
>
>
> On 5/30/2016 12:26 PM, Kevin Ehm wrote:
>
>> I?m having great difficulty hitting and receiving AO-85 with my Yaesu VX
>> 6r. I have read about the frequencies, and that I?m not alone in the boat
>> with HT?s and only 5 watts. I?m in BP51, and used to hit the easy ones
>> when they were working. Am I simply wasting my time with AO-85?
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 13
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 19:40:51 -0400
From: Ken Alexander <k.alexander@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Polarization
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I clipped this from another message because I didn't want to drag the
discussion off course. It's a question I've been wondering about since
getting into this a few short weeks ago.
I've also read (but haven't tried yet) about the trick of rotating
the antenna 90 degrees on transmit, once you've established the best
receive orientation.
73 de Bill, KG5FQX
So far, with SO-20 I have rotated my Arrow antenna for best reception of
the downlink and don't think I've had too much trouble being heard. At
the same time I have wondered whether I should twist the antenna when
transmitting to orient the 2m elements to give the same polarization as
in receive. I don't know if this is a good idea or not, and frankly I
have enough trouble remembering calls and grids, tracking the satellite,
adjusting frequency and switching back to the correct VFO to worry about
one more thing.
I've seen that some commercial OSCAR antennas use circular polarization.
The antennas I see in the photos of satellites we work are whips. Is the
polarization becoming "circularized" as it re-enters earth's atmosphere
or something?
Comments and observations would be most welcome!
73,
Ken Alexander
VE3HLS, FN03
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Message: 14
Date: Mon, 30 May 2016 20:12:36 -0400
From: "Stan, W1LE" <stanw1le@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] EsHail Microwave transponder satellite
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Hello The Net,
What are other folks planning to use on the uplink 2400 MHz and the down
link at 10,489 MHz, for the narrowband linear transponder ?
Stab, W1LE Cape Cod FN41sr
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Date: Tue, 31 May 2016 01:06:13 +0000 (UTC)
From: Mark Thompson <wb9qzb_groups@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>,
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Subject: [amsat-bb] Fwd: HamRadioNow: TAPR & APRS Forum Videos at 2016
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