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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Largest cross-yagi ever? on 10 meter or CB (Robert Bruninga)
2. Re: Largest cross-yagi ever? on 10 meter or CB (Peter Laws)
3. [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds (John Brier)
4. Re: [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds (Peter Laws)
5. Re: [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds (John Brier)
6. Re: [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds (Peter Laws)
7. Is anyone using a phased array antenna to receive low earth
orbit satellites? (Douglas Quagliana)
8. Field day power from BEV? (Greg D)
9. Re: Field day power from BEV? (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
10. Re: Field day power from BEV? (KK5DO)
11. Re: Field day power from BEV? (Jim Jerzycke)
12. Re: Field day power from BEV? (Dave Mann)
13. SatPC32 (Brad Hyde)
14. Re: SatPC32 (Erich Eichmann)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:36:50 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever? on 10 meter or CB
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Based on N2OTO's photos, and assuming the Gondola is 6 feet high, the
elements of the beam appear to me to be 8 feet on a side. That makes it a
big 10 meter or CB antenna! OOPS, I see now he already figured that
out. Nevermind... Bob
> Forward from -Rupert, n2oto
>
> I photographed it about a month ago. You can see some great pictures
> if you are interested at:
>
> http://www.qsl.net/n2oto
>
> I believe it is used for US NAVY MARS ops.
>
> Some countries use 27 MHz for maritime coms.
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 16:47:05 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Largest cross-yagi ever? on 10 meter or CB
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On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:36 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Based on N2OTO's photos, and assuming the Gondola is 6 feet high, the
> elements of the beam appear to me to be 8 feet on a side. That makes it a
> big 10 meter or CB antenna! OOPS, I see now he already figured that
> out. Nevermind... Bob
With the cycle declining, a sailor's gotta do what a sailor's gotta do
to make the QSOs whether on 11 m or otherwise ...
--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 17:50:38 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTbx-4IwV0
73, John Brier KG4AKV
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:38:04 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds
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What was that? The 2 train or something? Where were you? (NYC, I know).
On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:50 PM, John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTbx-4IwV0
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
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Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:46:18 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Peter Laws N5UWY <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds
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NQ in Queens. 36th Avenue station. I'm staying at an Airbnb in Astoria with
my girlfriend for the week.
Thanks again for supporting to me on Patreon, Peter.
John KG4AKV
On Jun 15, 2016 8:38 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> What was that? The 2 train or something? Where were you? (NYC, I know).
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 4:50 PM, John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bcTbx-4IwV0
> >
> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> > _______________________________________________
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>
>
> --
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 19:58:33 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [Video] Seven SO-50 Contacts in 90 Seconds
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On Wed, Jun 15, 2016 at 7:46 PM, John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> NQ in Queens. 36th Avenue station. I'm staying at an Airbnb in Astoria with
> my girlfriend for the week.
>
> Thanks again for supporting to me on Patreon, Peter.
You're welcome. You're doing a service to the hobby.
--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 22:42:04 -0500
From: Douglas Quagliana <dquagliana@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Is anyone using a phased array antenna to receive
low earth orbit satellites?
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All,
Is anyone using a phased array of antennas to receive low earth orbit
satellites (for example, the LA2QAA 435-jpole phased array that appeared
in the AMSAT Journal a few years ago).
In particular I would like to know
- what antenna elements you used for the array (j-pole, vertical, or
something else)
- the number of antenna elements in your phased array
- what coax relays/coax switches you used for phasing (brand/model/signal
losses?)
- details of the computer controlled steering (or did you manually steer)?
- what band(s) (2m, 70cm, other)?
- which satellite(s) you were trying to receive
and
-your overall experience with how well the phased array worked (or didn't
work)
for receiving low earth orbit satellites.
If there is enough interest and/or enough replies then I'll write it up for an
AMSAT Journal article.
73,
Douglas KA2UPW/5
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:47:07 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
Message-ID: <5762213B.1080801@xxxxx.xxx>
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Hi folks,
Every year there's always someone with an off-the-wall question about
the Field Day rules. Not hearing one yet, it might as well be my turn...
There are different station classifications based on your power source.
What class is a station that gets its power from a Battery Electric
Vehicle (one with battery only, no gas engine), for example, if I run my
rig from the car's 12v Accessory outlet?
Class-C covers a currently-traditional (ICE) car, one with a combustion
engine driven generator (alternator) backing up the car's battery.
My car has no such generator, just a really big battery (57kw). If I
park the car and run a 12v cable to the operating position at a nearby
picnic bench, and keep to 5 watts or less, am I Class A Battery? What
if higher than 5 watts?
Puzzled,
Greg KO6TH
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 04:08:31 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
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Greg,
If you don't move around to operate from different locations, you
should be able to do a class-A operation. You could even make that
case if you parked a "normal" car near the picnic table and run off
the car's battery, without firing up the engine or moving to different
locations. I wouldn't consider it class-C unless the station was
capable of being operated while mobile, regardless of the mode of
propulsion of your car. Unless I am traveling with a rental car,
I try to avoid ever using the car battery to power my radio gear.
I'd rather not call AAA to jumpstart my own car. :-)
Class-A stations are not limited to QRP transmitter power levels. The
power level determines the power multiplier for your score - if you
submit your score to ARRL for this non-contest. When I work Field
Day as a 1A station, I am always running on battery power at 5W. Even
when I used an HT and Elk on the office balcony last year, to make some
SO-50 and ISS packet QSOs during a break from a PBX upgrade project
at my office during Field Day weekend. I can run longer on the batteries
at 5W, and I enjoy the challenges of operating Field Day QRP - even on
satellites.
Without any projects at the office over Field Day weekend, I plan on
being at my traditional Field Day location in the Kaibab National
Forest about 25 miles west of Flagstaff AZ. I might have a coworker
with me, a long-time ham who is itching to get on HF with his own
portable gear. I'll steer clear of wherever he operates (Technician
license; he'll probably be on 10m and 6m much of the time), and
of course I'll try satellites and ISS passes.
If I get up there early enough, and there are workable satellite
passes before 1800 UTC on 25 June, I will go a few hundred yards/meters
west of my Field Day spot and work satellite passes on the DM35/DM45
grid boundary. I have worked from this grid boundary in the past,
parked on the side of old US-66.
Good luck, and 73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx
On Thu, Jun 16, 2016 at 3:47 AM, Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Every year there's always someone with an off-the-wall question about
> the Field Day rules. Not hearing one yet, it might as well be my turn...
>
> There are different station classifications based on your power source.
> What class is a station that gets its power from a Battery Electric
> Vehicle (one with battery only, no gas engine), for example, if I run my
> rig from the car's 12v Accessory outlet?
>
> Class-C covers a currently-traditional (ICE) car, one with a combustion
> engine driven generator (alternator) backing up the car's battery.
>
> My car has no such generator, just a really big battery (57kw). If I
> park the car and run a 12v cable to the operating position at a nearby
> picnic bench, and keep to 5 watts or less, am I Class A Battery? What
> if higher than 5 watts?
>
> Puzzled,
>
> Greg KO6TH
> <http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 04:13:47 +0000 (UTC)
From: KK5DO <kk5do@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>, Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
Message-ID:
<1890211881.3248439.1466050427209.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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You can operate under whichever class fits your power source. Here is what
the ARRL says about the power multiplier.
73...bruce
7.2. Power multipliers: The power multiplier that applies is determined by
the highest power output of any of the transmitters used during the Field
Day operation. 7.2.1. If all contacts are made using a power of 5 Watts or
less and
if a power source other than commercial mains or motor-driven generator is
used (batteries, solar cells, water-driven generator), the power multiplier
is 5 (five). 7.2.2. If all contacts are made using a power of 5 Watts or
less, but the power source is from a commercial main or from a motor-driven
generator, the power multiplier is 2. If batteries are charged during the
Field Day period using commercial mains or a motor-driven generator the
power multiplier is 2 (two). 7.2.3. If any or all contacts are made using an
output power up to 150 Watts or less, the power multiplier is 2 (two).
7.2.4. If any or all contacts are made using an output power greater than
150 Watts, the power multiplier is 1 (one). 7.2.5. The power multiplier for
an entry is determined by the maximum output power used by any transmitter
used to complete any contact during the event. (Example: a group has one QRP
station running 3 Watts and a second station running 100 Watts, the power
multiplier of 2 app
lies to all contacts made by the entire operation).
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2016 10:47 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
Hi folks,
Every year there's always someone with an off-the-wall question about
the Field Day rules.? Not hearing one yet, it might as well be my turn...
There are different station classifications based on your power source.
What class is a station that gets its power from a Battery Electric
Vehicle (one with battery only, no gas engine), for example, if I run my
rig from the car's 12v Accessory outlet?
Class-C covers a currently-traditional (ICE) car, one with a combustion
engine driven generator (alternator) backing up the car's battery.
My car has no such generator, just a really big battery (57kw).? If I
park the car and run a 12v cable to the operating position at a nearby
picnic bench, and keep to 5 watts or less, am I Class A Battery?? What
if higher than 5 watts?
Puzzled,
Greg? KO6TH
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 04:31:36 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
Message-ID: <57622BA8.1070607@xxxxxxx.xxx>
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The ARRL answers these questions in a timely manner.
Jim KQ6EA
On 06/16/2016 03:47 AM, Greg D wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> Every year there's always someone with an off-the-wall question about
> the Field Day rules. Not hearing one yet, it might as well be my turn...
>
> There are different station classifications based on your power source.
> What class is a station that gets its power from a Battery Electric
> Vehicle (one with battery only, no gas engine), for example, if I run my
> rig from the car's 12v Accessory outlet?
>
> Class-C covers a currently-traditional (ICE) car, one with a combustion
> engine driven generator (alternator) backing up the car's battery.
>
> My car has no such generator, just a really big battery (57kw). If I
> park the car and run a 12v cable to the operating position at a nearby
> picnic bench, and keep to 5 watts or less, am I Class A Battery? What
> if higher than 5 watts?
>
> Puzzled,
>
> Greg KO6TH
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 23:32:13 -0500
From: Dave Mann <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Field day power from BEV?
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Greg, be not puzzled. My Nissan LEAF is an example. As long as I don't put
the LEAF in drive and move it around, it is just a big battery -- a really
big battery, with about 1.2kV @ 13.8 Vdc direct from the positive side of
the small 12 vdc battery and from the negative grounding buss at the rear of
the motor compartment. The LEAF 400 Vdc power pack automatically keeps the
12 vdc battery charged while operating. In reality the 12vdc battery acts
to transform the 400 vdc big battery down to 12 vdc. I have photos and
description on the Nissan LEAF Forum.
73
Dave
N4CVX
Sent from my iPad
> On Jun 15, 2016, at 22:47, Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
> Every year there's always someone with an off-the-wall question about
> the Field Day rules. Not hearing one yet, it might as well be my turn...
>
> There are different station classifications based on your power source.
> What class is a station that gets its power from a Battery Electric
> Vehicle (one with battery only, no gas engine), for example, if I run my
> rig from the car's 12v Accessory outlet?
>
> Class-C covers a currently-traditional (ICE) car, one with a combustion
> engine driven generator (alternator) backing up the car's battery.
>
> My car has no such generator, just a really big battery (57kw). If I
> park the car and run a 12v cable to the operating position at a nearby
> picnic bench, and keep to 5 watts or less, am I Class A Battery? What
> if higher than 5 watts?
>
> Puzzled,
>
> Greg KO6TH
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 15 Jun 2016 20:19:28 +0000
From: Brad Hyde <W5BK@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32
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Hello all,
I was wondering if anyone else has tried to download SatPC32 under Windows
10? I have been trying for 2 days now. Windows 10 says I don't have
permission. So, I activate the administrator account and try it that way.
Same issue. So, I go into Windows security and give the administrator all
privileges. Still won't work. Keeps telling me I don't have permission to
install software for other users. I am not impressed with W10 at this point..
Thanks for any advice.
Brad
W5BK
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 16 Jun 2016 14:30:47 +0200
From: Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
To: Brad Hyde <W5BK@xxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32
Message-ID: <57629BF7.5070102@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Brad,
please, read the instructions on my website
http://www.dk1tb.de/downloadinfo.htm, particularly sect. B.
First EXTRACT the downloaded ZIP file, then RIGHT click on the file
"setup" and from the list that opens choose "Run as Administrator".
73s, Erich, DK1TB
Am 15.06.2016 um 22:19 schrieb Brad Hyde:
> Hello all,
>
> I was wondering if anyone else has tried to download SatPC32 under Windows
10? I have been trying for 2 days now. Windows 10 says I don't have
permission. So, I activate the administrator account and try it that way.
Same issue. So, I go into Windows security and give the administrator all
privileges. Still won't work. Keeps telling me I don't have permission to
install software for other users. I am not impressed with W10 at this point..
>
> Thanks for any advice.
>
> Brad
>
> W5BK
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