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Today's Topics:
1. Re: First Demo of ground-based LEILA-2 for the NB transponder
(George Henry)
2. For sale, FT-736r, TE amps, more (Peter Klein)
3. Re: Southern CA Satellite Presentations (Oliver Krystal)
4. Re: Android SDR to FoxTelem (Chris Thompson)
5. Re: Southern CA Satellite Presentations
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
6. Re: Southern CA Satellite Presentations (Clint Bradford)
7. Re: Southern CA Satellite Presentations (Fernando Ramirez)
8. Re: Southern CA Satellite Presentations (Ted)
9. Re: Southern CA Satellite Presentations (Clint Bradford)
10. Re: Southern CA Satellite Presentations (Fernando Ramirez)
11. Re: Southern CA Satellite Presentations (skristof@xxxxxxx.xxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 19:02:20 -0500
From: "George Henry" <ka3hsw@xxx.xxx>
To: "amsat bb" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] First Demo of ground-based LEILA-2 for the NB
transponder
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There were more than a few stations that could have benefitted from that on
Field Day... heard AO-7 jump to mode A twice from being hammered too hard.
George, KA3HSW
----- Original Message -----
From: "Peter Guelzow" <peter.guelzow@xxxxxx.xx>
To: "amsat forum" <forum@xxxxxxxx.xxx>; "AMSAT-BB" <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 5:43 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] First Demo of ground-based LEILA-2 for the NB
transponder
> First Demo of ground-based LEILA-2 for the NB transponder
> ====================================================
>
> the first geostationary P4-A satellite Es'hail-2 will carry two amateur
> radio transponders:
>
> - a Narrowband (NB) transponder with 250 kHz bandwidth and
> - a Wideband (WB) transponder with 8 MHz bandwidth for Digital Amateur
> Television (DATV, DVB-S2 standard)
>
> The NB transponder is a bent-pipe, non-inverting, linear transponder
> with AGC.
>
>
> A LEILA-2 system, similar to LEILA flown on AMSAT OSCAR-40 (P3-D) will
> be used for Traffic Control and Telemetry Beacons.
> The mayor difference is, that this is a ground-based system which will
> be installed at the Es'hailSat Satellite Control Center (SCC) near Doha
> in Qatar.
>
> LEILA-2 will analyze the downlink power levels in the passband of the
> NB-transponder and automatically generate a Siren to remark users to
> decrease their uplink power.
>
> LEILA-2 is a joint development of AMSAT-DL's Achim Vollhardt DH2VA and
> AMSAT-UK's Howard Long G6LVB.
>
> LEILA is an german acronym for "LEIstungs Limit Anzeige", which means:
> Power Limit Indicator
>
>
> The following video gives a first insight to the Es'hail-2 LEILA-2
> hardware concept: https://youtu.be/v-9jVw-pK0A
>
>
> 73s Peter DB2OS, AMSAT-DL
>
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 16:55:15 -0700
From: Peter Klein <pklein@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] For sale, FT-736r, TE amps, more
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*** FOR SALE ***
I'm looking for new homes for the following. Asking prices do not
include shipping, insurance. Local pickup welcome. Contact is pklein at
threshinc dot com. Reasonable offers will be considered.
Unless otherwise noted, all this equipment was purchased new in c.
1995-6, I am the original owner. Transceiver and indoor accessories'
condition is very good to excellent.
-------------
Yaesu FT-736r SSB/CW/FM/Satellite Transceiver. I used it on Oscar 10 and
13, Mir, etc. With original box and manual. Has 2m and 70cm stock
modules. With hand mic, Keyer-B, FTS-8 CTCSS tone board, 500 Hz CW
filter. Excellent shape, all functions work fine. Internal AC power
supply works. Minor issue: The external speaker jack is worn and
occasionally mutes the built-in speaker. Tap the rear of the cabinet and
it comes back. Rather than mess with it, I just used the headphone jack
for an external speaker.
--- $650.00 ---
Yaesu MD-1 desk mic, works with the 736r and many other Yaesu radios
(8-pin plug). This was bought used last year. Great sound.
--- $120 ---
TE 1406G amp, 144 MHz, 25w in, 100w out. GAsFET preamp. With manual.
--- $250.00 ---
TE 4412G amp, 430-450 MHz, 30w in, 100w out. GAsFET preamp. With manual.
--- $250 ---
TIMEWAVE DSP-599zx AM SSB CW digital selectivity filter, noise
reduction, heterodyne eliminator. Excellent at reducing noise for weak
signal VHF/UHF operation, worked great on satellites. Original box and
manual, first version firmware.
---$250 ---
Kansas City Tracker board (full-size ISA board, only fits older PCs). It
worked last time I used it several years ago. With docs and software.
--- $30 ---
Landwehr 144 MHz mast-mount GASFET preamp. It works, amplifies weak
signals as it should. The N connectors are good. The 5-pin power and
control socket has some oxidation and the label on the face has faded
due to sunlight.
--- $125 ---
M2 EB-144 2m "Eggbeater" Antenna. Works, was outdoors since mid-90s, so
shows some oxidation.
--- $100 ---
Advanced Receiver Research 10 meter receiver preamp. Remember Mode A?
--- $20 ---
-- Peter, KD7MW
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:20:44 -0500
From: Oliver Krystal <mr.soup12@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
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The cheap radios can have issues with harmonics desensitizing them.
While I also agree that full duplex is very useful, I think you are
asking to much of a new ham (at least) to spend close to $250 in radios
to try something. That's if they build their own antenna and have
feedline handy.
Now, if a ham happens to have two HTs of decent quality to be put to
use, that is another story.
On 06/26/2016 06:34 PM, mvivona--- via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> I humbly agree with you Michael. Even though I do understand that some
Hams can not afford a second radio, the swarms of cheap radios on the market
lately has pretty much alleviated that issue.Maybe it's not always possible,
but attempting full duplex is not only better practice, but is a very
gratifying challenge to anyone that hears what the have been missing.
>
> I give you a thumbs up sir.
> KC4ZVA
>
> From: Michael <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 7:10 PM
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
>
> It sure would be nice if you would quit telling people that full duplex
> is "not mandatory" for working sats. It absolutely should be MANDATORY.
> Having full duplex should be stated as rule # 1 of operating on a
> satellite regardless of which one it is and what mode you are
> operating. Not using full duplex results in needless interference and
> frustration. Just my humble opinion.
> 73,
> Michael, W4HIJ
> On 6/26/2016 2:49 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
>> ARRL instructor and ARISS / AMSAT-NA / AMSAT-UK supporter
>> Clint Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting his 84th and 85th
>> satellite presentations in September.
>>
>> "I have no idea how I have "missed" the Downey (CA) Amateur Radio Club,"
>> Clint writes. "They are long-time ARRL supporters, and have been serving
their
>> region well for more than FIFTY years."
>>
>> "The Victor Valley (CA) ARC is another story. This will be my fourth show
for
>> them these past ten years. I suppose I will have to change some of the bad
>> jokes that are interspersed throughout the presentation ... "
>>
>> Attendees will be shown EVERYTHING needed to work the FM voice ham
>> satellites ? with a re-occurring theme of, ?Most hams already have
>> most of the necessary equipment ? ? Attendees can download a
>> four-page tutorial beforehand at ?
>>
>> http://www.work-sat.com
>>
>> ? and Clint welcomes pre-presentation questions. Call him at
>> 909-999-SATS (909-999-7287), or send email to clint@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx .
>>
>> Not in the Southern California region - but would like your club to
experience an
>> hour-long educational and entertaining presentation on working the FM
birds?
>> Send me an email - I will bring the show to your club!
>>
>> Thursday, September 1, 2016, 7:30 PM
>> Downey Amateur Radio Club
>> First Baptist Church, Room 120, in Downey, California. The church is
between
>> 2nd and 3rd streets, at 8348 E. 3rd St. Use 2nd St, East from Downey Ave
(one
>> block north of Firestone Blvd.) adjacent to City Hall. Entrance via
double glass
>> doors on the north side of 2nd St.
>>
>> Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 7:00 PM
>> Sitting Bull Academy Library, 19445 Sitting Bull Road, Apple Valley. CA.
>>
>> /end/
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 22:33:33 -0400
From: Chris Thompson <g0kla@xxxx.xxx>
To: skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
Cc: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Android SDR to FoxTelem
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Steve,
Not that I know of. If you are an Android developer then I can explain how
the code base works. The core decoder should work, but the audio
(soundcard) input and the graphical interface will need to be rewritten.
While Java is cross platform, Android does not support the Swing GUI AFAIK.
Chris
ac2cz/g0kla
On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 11:26 AM, <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Anyone putting together a FoxTelem app for Android?
>
> Steve AI9IN
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 03:00:01 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Oliver Krystal <mr.soup12@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
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Oliver,
Hams don't have to spend $250 to try satellites anymore. Yes, the
Chinese-made radios come with varying quality control. If you get
good examples of those radios, you might only spend $50 or $60 for
two radios. I have worked SO-50 with two Baofeng HTs - two UV-5Rs,
and one UV-5R with one UV-82. The two UV-5Rs cost about $60, and
the UV-82 was about $37 when I bought it in 2014. I even used a
Baofeng pair (transmit from a UV-82, receive with a UV-5R) for a
hamfest demonstration in May 2014 - illustrating that working
satellites doesn't cost much money for the radios.
If a ham already has a decent dual-band HT, a $25 or $30 Baofeng HT
as the transmit radio in a full-duplex FM satellite station is
(my opinion) not asking too much. Are there hams who can't afford even
$25 or $30 for another radio? Sure. But at these prices, the arguments
against actively encouraging full-duplex operation pretty much go away.
Why do I say that the Baofeng HT should be used as the transmit
radio, and not the receive radio, in the two-radio example above?
In most cases, the non-Chinese-made HTs have better receivers
for satellite work than the Chinese-made HTs. There are some
Chinese-made dual-band HTs have receivers that do a good job with
our FM satellites, and I had written about some of them when I
reviewed a few for use with AO-85 a few months ago in a series
of posts on this list.
Yes, hams don't need to go full-duplex to work FM satellites,
especially those with 2m uplinks like SO-50 or LilacSat-2.
This is a
true statement. I even worked a LilacSat-2 pass last night during
Field Day using a single Wouxun KG-UV9D HT - a radio that can work
U/V satellites like AO-85 and the upcoming Fox-1 FM satellites
full-duplex, but not SO-50 or LilacSat-2 due to desense issues
when transmitting on 2m. The audience I had last night saw that it
was possible, but also saw me working SO-50 and XW-2F full-duplex
earlier in the day, and saw the advantages of working satellites
full-duplex.
The antennas can be homebrewed. The WA5VJB "Cheap Yagi" design is
a great dual-band Yagi, for those not interested in spending
$125 to $150 for an Elk or an Arrow. Using a 2m/70cm antenna is
desirable over the 2m-only Yagis of various designs, especially
since we now have FM satellites that require a 70cm uplink like AO-85
and the other Fox-1 FM satellites in the pipeline.
The best part about all of this - all of this gear can be used for
non-satellite activities. Local repeaters, simplex, and (when
paired up with a TNC or software on a computer) even packet. The
packet setup could be used with terrestrial packet, or with the
orbiting digipeaters on the ISS and NO-84. This is a lot better than
the situation in the past for working satellites.
And, in keeping with the title of this thread, I will give a
satellite presentation in southern California during September.
I will give a presentation at the Jet Propulsion Laboratory
Amateur Radio Club's monthly meeting on 23 September 2016 in Pasadena,
discussing current and upcoming amateur satellite projects.
I'm looking forward to making my second trip for a presentation
in California this year, after a presentation in Long Beach last
March. Along with answering questions about my presentation,
I'll be happy to answer other questions about satellite operating
from those in attendance at that meeting.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 2:20 AM, Oliver Krystal <mr.soup12@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> The cheap radios can have issues with harmonics desensitizing them.
>
> While I also agree that full duplex is very useful, I think you are asking
> to much of a new ham (at least) to spend close to $250 in radios to try
> something. That's if they build their own antenna and have feedline handy.
>
> Now, if a ham happens to have two HTs of decent quality to be put to use,
> that is another story.
>
>
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 20:37:49 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
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>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory" for
working sats.
You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered the
sentence to groups,
"It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD." My standard mantra for
the easy FM birds
is all over the place:
"Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, where we
can
simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting. Although this
method is preferred, it is not mandatory: Carefully monitor the downlink, and
wait for a break in the conversations to announce yourself."
People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those
instructions.
And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons why
working full-
duplex is preferable.
I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who was
aboard
the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working the easy
birds,
I am available. Just send me an email message.
Clint Bradford K6LCS
(909) 999-SATS
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:21:33 -0700
From: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Clint Bradford <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
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Any plans to demo the satellites on this presentation? Some of us are
always available to be the voices at the other end of the satellite (AO-85,
SO-50, FO-29, etc).
It will also give us an opportunity to add you to our logs. I've been doing
this since October and haven't heard you on one of the birds yet.
73
Fernando, NP4JV
On Jun 26, 2016 12:48 PM, "Clint Bradford" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> ARRL instructor and ARISS / AMSAT-NA / AMSAT-UK supporter
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting his 84th and 85th
> satellite presentations in September.
>
> "I have no idea how I have "missed" the Downey (CA) Amateur Radio Club,"
> Clint writes. "They are long-time ARRL supporters, and have been serving
> their
> region well for more than FIFTY years."
>
> "The Victor Valley (CA) ARC is another story. This will be my fourth show
> for
> them these past ten years. I suppose I will have to change some of the bad
> jokes that are interspersed throughout the presentation ... "
>
> Attendees will be shown EVERYTHING needed to work the FM voice ham
> satellites ? with a re-occurring theme of, ?Most hams already have
> most of the necessary equipment ? ? Attendees can download a
> four-page tutorial beforehand at ?
>
> http://www.work-sat.com
>
> ? and Clint welcomes pre-presentation questions. Call him at
> 909-999-SATS (909-999-7287), or send email to clint@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx .
>
> Not in the Southern California region - but would like your club to
> experience an
> hour-long educational and entertaining presentation on working the FM
> birds?
> Send me an email - I will bring the show to your club!
>
> Thursday, September 1, 2016, 7:30 PM
> Downey Amateur Radio Club
> First Baptist Church, Room 120, in Downey, California. The church is
> between
> 2nd and 3rd streets, at 8348 E. 3rd St. Use 2nd St, East from Downey Ave
> (one
> block north of Firestone Blvd.) adjacent to City Hall. Entrance via double
> glass
> doors on the north side of 2nd St.
>
> Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 7:00 PM
> Sitting Bull Academy Library, 19445 Sitting Bull Road, Apple Valley. CA.
>
> /end/
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:44:02 -0700
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Fernando Ramirez'" <framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx>, "'Clint
Bradford'" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx>
Cc: 'AMSAT -BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
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Well, Fernando, if you are lucky enough to make a sat qso with Clint, don't
hold yer breathe for a QSL card. Despite SASE and email promises, good old
'Clint' never got around to it x3 (2010).
Oh well, made the VUCC anyway..
73, Ted
K7TRK
#226
p.s. Clint, don't need it now
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Fernando
Ramirez
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 9:22 PM
To: Clint Bradford
Cc: AMSAT -BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
Any plans to demo the satellites on this presentation? Some of us are always
available to be the voices at the other end of the satellite (AO-85, SO-50,
FO-29, etc).
It will also give us an opportunity to add you to our logs. I've been doing
this since October and haven't heard you on one of the birds yet.
73
Fernando, NP4JV
On Jun 26, 2016 12:48 PM, "Clint Bradford" <clintbradford@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> ARRL instructor and ARISS / AMSAT-NA / AMSAT-UK supporter Clint
> Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting his 84th and 85th satellite
> presentations in September.
>
> "I have no idea how I have "missed" the Downey (CA) Amateur Radio Club,"
> Clint writes. "They are long-time ARRL supporters, and have been
> serving their region well for more than FIFTY years."
>
> "The Victor Valley (CA) ARC is another story. This will be my fourth
> show for them these past ten years. I suppose I will have to change
> some of the bad jokes that are interspersed throughout the
> presentation ... "
>
> Attendees will be shown EVERYTHING needed to work the FM voice ham
> satellites ? with a re-occurring theme of, ?Most hams already have
> most of the necessary equipment ? ? Attendees can download a four-page
> tutorial beforehand at ?
>
> http://www.work-sat.com
>
> ? and Clint welcomes pre-presentation questions. Call him at
> 909-999-SATS (909-999-7287), or send email to clint@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx .
>
> Not in the Southern California region - but would like your club to
> experience an hour-long educational and entertaining presentation on
> working the FM birds?
> Send me an email - I will bring the show to your club!
>
> Thursday, September 1, 2016, 7:30 PM
> Downey Amateur Radio Club
> First Baptist Church, Room 120, in Downey, California. The church is
> between 2nd and 3rd streets, at 8348 E. 3rd St. Use 2nd St, East from
> Downey Ave (one block north of Firestone Blvd.) adjacent to City Hall.
> Entrance via double glass doors on the north side of 2nd St.
>
> Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 7:00 PM
> Sitting Bull Academy Library, 19445 Sitting Bull Road, Apple Valley. CA.
>
> /end/
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
> the official views of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 21:35:05 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
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>> ... Any plans to demo the satellites on this presentation?
Several times I have interrupted myself in the middle of a presentation and
told the group,
"OK - everybody up and outside. My wife will stay and watch your belongings.
We're going
to work a bird RIGHT NOW ... "
I enjoyed reading about your then-record distance record on '85 - quite an
achievement!
i am sure we'll meet up sometime ...
Clint K6LCS
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 26 Jun 2016 22:26:06 -0700
From: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
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Looking forward for that QSO.
73
Fernando, NP4JV
PS: You don't need to wait for one of your presentations to get on the air.
I am available anytime to work the birds.
On Jun 26, 2016 9:57 PM, "Clint Bradford" <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >> ... Any plans to demo the satellites on this presentation?
>
> Several times I have interrupted myself in the middle of a presentation
> and told the group,
> "OK - everybody up and outside. My wife will stay and watch your
> belongings. We're going
> to work a bird RIGHT NOW ... "
>
> I enjoyed reading about your then-record distance record on '85 - quite an
> achievement!
> i am sure we'll meet up sometime ...
>
> Clint K6LCS
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 05:53:01 -0400
From: "skristof@xxxxxxx.xxxx <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: mvivona--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
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Attempting full-duplex as a best practice is agreeable but is certainly a
different animal than making it MANDATORY. Sounds like the folks in my CW
club who post on the sked page "QRO ONLY" or the folks who think everybody
must be able to do 20 wpm before they put a dit on the air. Let's keep it a
hobby, help and encourage newcomers, and not block folks from trying things
by setting unnecessarily high bars to entry.Steve AI9IN
Sent from my Verizon Wireless 4G LTE smartphone-------- Original message
--------From: mvivona--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> Date: 6/26/2016
7:34 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Michael <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
I humbly agree with you Michael. Even though I do understand that some Hams
can not afford a second radio, the swarms of cheap radios on the market
lately has pretty much alleviated that issue.Maybe it's not always possible,
but attempting full duplex is not only better practice, but is a very
gratifying challenge to anyone that hears what the have been missing.
I give you a thumbs up sir.
?KC4ZVA
????? From: Michael <Mat_62@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Sunday, June 26, 2016 7:10 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
??
It sure would be nice if you would quit telling people that full duplex
is "not mandatory" for working sats.? It absolutely should be MANDATORY.
Having full duplex should be stated as rule # 1 of operating on a
satellite regardless of which? one it is and what mode you are
operating. Not using full duplex results in needless interference and
frustration. Just my humble opinion.
73,
Michael, W4HIJ
On 6/26/2016 2:49 PM, Clint Bradford wrote:
> ARRL instructor and ARISS / AMSAT-NA / AMSAT-UK supporter
> Clint Bradford, K6LCS, will be presenting his 84th and 85th
> satellite presentations in September.
>
> "I have no idea how I have "missed" the Downey (CA) Amateur Radio Club,"
> Clint writes. "They are long-time ARRL supporters, and have been serving
their
> region well for more than FIFTY years."
>
> "The Victor Valley (CA) ARC is another story. This will be my fourth show
for
> them these past ten years. I suppose I will have to change some of the bad
> jokes that are interspersed throughout the presentation ... "
>
> Attendees will be shown EVERYTHING needed to work the FM voice ham
> satellites ? with a re-occurring theme of, ?Most hams already have
> most of the necessary equipment ? ? Attendees can download a
> four-page tutorial beforehand at ?
>
> http://www.work-sat.com
>
> ? and Clint welcomes pre-presentation questions. Call him at
> 909-999-SATS (909-999-7287), or send email to clint@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx .
>
> Not in the Southern California region - but would like your club to
experience an
> hour-long educational and entertaining presentation on working the FM birds?
> Send me an email - I will bring the show to your club!
>
> Thursday, September 1, 2016, 7:30 PM
> Downey Amateur Radio Club
> First Baptist Church, Room 120, in Downey, California. The church is between
> 2nd and 3rd streets, at 8348 E. 3rd St. Use 2nd St, East from Downey Ave
(one
> block north of Firestone Blvd.) adjacent to City Hall. Entrance via double
glass
> doors on the north side of 2nd St.
>
> Tuesday, September 13, 2016, 7:00 PM
> Sitting Bull Academy Library, 19445 Sitting Bull Road, Apple Valley. CA.
>
> /end/
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