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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Southern CA Satellite Presentations (Daron Wilson)
2. Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS SSTV
transmissions? (John Brier)
3. Re: Southern CA Satellite Presentations (Kelly Keeton)
4. Re: Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS SSTV
transmissions? (Greg Stahlman)
5. Re: Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS SSTV
transmissions? (John Brier)
6. Re: Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS SSTV
transmissions? (Paul Stoetzer)
7. Re: Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS SSTV
transmissions? (John Brier)
8. FD: W1BIM 6A WMA (Bill Acito)
9. N8HM Field Day Report - 1B MDC (Paul Stoetzer)
10. Re: N8HM Field Day Report - 1B MDC (Peter Laws)
11. Re: Southern CA Satellite Presentations (Chris Spacone)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 08:25:50 -0700
From: Daron Wilson <daron@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
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Cliff, unless I'm missing something, you claim below to never say:
> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD."
Then you say what you tell your class is:
> Although this
> method is preferred, it is not mandatory:
I'm a little confused...
Sent from my iPhone
On Jun 26, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory"
for working sats.
>
> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered the
sentence to groups,
> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD." My standard mantra
for the easy FM birds
> is all over the place:
>
> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, where
we can
> simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting. Although this
> method is preferred, it is not mandatory: Carefully monitor the downlink,
and
> wait for a break in the conversations to announce yourself."
>
> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those
instructions.
>
> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons why
working full-
> duplex is preferable.
>
> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who was
aboard
> the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
>
> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working the
easy birds,
> I am available. Just send me an email message.
>
> Clint Bradford K6LCS
> (909) 999-SATS
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 11:54:51 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS
SSTV transmissions?
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I know the Cosmonauts sometimes make unscheduled voice QSOs between
ISS SSTV transmissions but I can't remember exactly where I have read
or heard that.
Especially nice would be audio and/or video recordings with both the
SSTV and voice QSO intact in the recording.
Twitter, posts, blogs, articles etc are also very helpful.
Thanks,
John Brier KG4AKV
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 08:59:53 -0700
From: Kelly Keeton <kellyrkeeton@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Daron Wilson <daron@xxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
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Can we argue in a less public email reflector.
We all get it - some people like ford some people like Chevy let's bury it
or take it offline. My inbox is tired of this.
Sent from a mobile device.
> On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Daron Wilson <daron@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Cliff, unless I'm missing something, you claim below to never say:
>
>> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD."
>
> Then you say what you tell your class is:
>
>> Although this
>> method is preferred, it is not mandatory:
>
> I'm a little confused...
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jun 26, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>
>>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory"
for working sats.
>>
>> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered the
sentence to groups,
>> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD." My standard mantra
for the easy FM birds
>> is all over the place:
>>
>> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, where
we can
>> simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting. Although this
>> method is preferred, it is not mandatory: Carefully monitor the downlink,
and
>> wait for a break in the conversations to announce yourself."
>>
>> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those
instructions.
>>
>> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons why
working full-
>> duplex is preferable.
>>
>> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who was
aboard
>> the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
>>
>> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working the
easy birds,
>> I am available. Just send me an email message.
>>
>> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>> (909) 999-SATS
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 09:11:22 -0700
From: "Greg Stahlman" <kj6ko@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'John Brier'" <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>, "'AMSAT BB'"
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between
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When Commander Wheatlock was up there, I had many! I just programmed the DL
and UL freqs in my vehicle and he would show up on channel calling CQ
randomly. Haven't heard much of that since then. Probably worked him at
least 5 times randomly. Still listening.
KJ6KO
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of John Brier
Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:55 AM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS SSTV
transmissions?
I know the Cosmonauts sometimes make unscheduled voice QSOs between
ISS SSTV transmissions but I can't remember exactly where I have read
or heard that.
Especially nice would be audio and/or video recordings with both the
SSTV and voice QSO intact in the recording.
Twitter, posts, blogs, articles etc are also very helpful.
Thanks,
John Brier KG4AKV
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:15:52 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Greg Stahlman <kj6ko@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between
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FWIW, He thinks he'll be going back up around 2019 and he told me he's
going to try and beat the record for QSOs by from the ISS. He said
he'll be using the radio "until sparks fly off of it." I met him twice
this year and that's what he told me each time.
However I am not looking for evidence of any voice QSO with the ISS
but evidence/references to QSOs *in between* the Russian SSTV
transmissions. It's for a video I'm working on for my YouTube channel.
I know they have happened, I just need examples that demonstrate that
for the video.
Thanks for your response,
John KG4AKV
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Greg Stahlman <kj6ko@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> When Commander Wheatlock was up there, I had many! I just programmed the DL
> and UL freqs in my vehicle and he would show up on channel calling CQ
> randomly. Haven?t heard much of that since then. Probably worked him at
> least 5 times randomly. Still listening.
>
>
>
> KJ6KO
>
>
>
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of John Brier
> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:55 AM
> To: AMSAT BB
> Subject: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS SSTV
> transmissions?
>
>
>
> I know the Cosmonauts sometimes make unscheduled voice QSOs between
> ISS SSTV transmissions but I can't remember exactly where I have read
> or heard that.
>
> Especially nice would be audio and/or video recordings with both the
> SSTV and voice QSO intact in the recording.
>
> Twitter, posts, blogs, articles etc are also very helpful.
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Brier KG4AKV
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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> expressed
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:28:36 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between
ISS SSTV transmissions?
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No QSOs were made here, but they were calling:
https://soundcloud.com/paul-stoetzer/cosmonaut-greeting-and-sstv-from-the-iss
I wasn't set up to transmit :(
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:15 PM, John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> FWIW, He thinks he'll be going back up around 2019 and he told me he's
> going to try and beat the record for QSOs by from the ISS. He said
> he'll be using the radio "until sparks fly off of it." I met him twice
> this year and that's what he told me each time.
>
> However I am not looking for evidence of any voice QSO with the ISS
> but evidence/references to QSOs *in between* the Russian SSTV
> transmissions. It's for a video I'm working on for my YouTube channel.
> I know they have happened, I just need examples that demonstrate that
> for the video.
>
> Thanks for your response,
>
> John KG4AKV
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Greg Stahlman <kj6ko@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> When Commander Wheatlock was up there, I had many! I just programmed the
DL
>> and UL freqs in my vehicle and he would show up on channel calling CQ
>> randomly. Haven?t heard much of that since then. Probably worked him at
>> least 5 times randomly. Still listening.
>>
>>
>>
>> KJ6KO
>>
>>
>>
>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of John Brier
>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:55 AM
>> To: AMSAT BB
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS SSTV
>> transmissions?
>>
>>
>>
>> I know the Cosmonauts sometimes make unscheduled voice QSOs between
>> ISS SSTV transmissions but I can't remember exactly where I have read
>> or heard that.
>>
>> Especially nice would be audio and/or video recordings with both the
>> SSTV and voice QSO intact in the recording.
>>
>> Twitter, posts, blogs, articles etc are also very helpful.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> John Brier KG4AKV
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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>> expressed
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:32:20 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between
ISS SSTV transmissions?
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Heh, Yup. I have that same recording from April 19th 2015 at 1033 (I
think Eastern US Time). I was setup for TX and transmitted on 144.49
but obviously he didn't respond to me. I don't think he intended to
have a QSO with anyone.
Ideally I am looking for references to voice QSOs between SSTV
transmissions from anytime before this SSTV event in April 2015.
John KG4AKV
On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:28 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> No QSOs were made here, but they were calling:
>
>
https://soundcloud.com/paul-stoetzer/cosmonaut-greeting-and-sstv-from-the-iss
>
> I wasn't set up to transmit :(
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:15 PM, John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> FWIW, He thinks he'll be going back up around 2019 and he told me he's
>> going to try and beat the record for QSOs by from the ISS. He said
>> he'll be using the radio "until sparks fly off of it." I met him twice
>> this year and that's what he told me each time.
>>
>> However I am not looking for evidence of any voice QSO with the ISS
>> but evidence/references to QSOs *in between* the Russian SSTV
>> transmissions. It's for a video I'm working on for my YouTube channel.
>> I know they have happened, I just need examples that demonstrate that
>> for the video.
>>
>> Thanks for your response,
>>
>> John KG4AKV
>>
>> On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 12:11 PM, Greg Stahlman <kj6ko@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>>> When Commander Wheatlock was up there, I had many! I just programmed
the DL
>>> and UL freqs in my vehicle and he would show up on channel calling CQ
>>> randomly. Haven?t heard much of that since then. Probably worked him at
>>> least 5 times randomly. Still listening.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> KJ6KO
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of John Brier
>>> Sent: Monday, June 27, 2016 8:55 AM
>>> To: AMSAT BB
>>> Subject: [amsat-bb] Any evidence of unscheduled voice QSOs between ISS
SSTV
>>> transmissions?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I know the Cosmonauts sometimes make unscheduled voice QSOs between
>>> ISS SSTV transmissions but I can't remember exactly where I have read
>>> or heard that.
>>>
>>> Especially nice would be audio and/or video recordings with both the
>>> SSTV and voice QSO intact in the recording.
>>>
>>> Twitter, posts, blogs, articles etc are also very helpful.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> John Brier KG4AKV
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 18:47:45 +0000
From: Bill Acito <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FD: W1BIM 6A WMA
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For the 13 of you who worked me (including W1AW) , thanks for the
QSO's. We were in FN32, if you need the grid.
I ran a modest satellite set-up for Central MA ARA; IC-820H and Arrow on
a camera tripod. 12 Q's on FO-29, and 1 Q on AO-85. I left my spot at
the 40 CW tent to work one AO85 pass and four FO-29 passes overnight and
Sunday morning.
I am a testament to prepping prior to FD -- spent much of May learning
and practicing on FO-29; it became clear very early that I wasn't going
to learn manual doppler control in a month, so I added SatPC32 to manage
it and added an Icom "vox box" to the 820 to free up a hand and to allow
me to hand control the Arrow and spin the VFO.
Bill
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 15:12:21 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] N8HM Field Day Report - 1B MDC
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I only worked satellites during Field Day and I ended up making 97
QSOs on 24 passes of all active 10 voice satellites during the 24 hour
period. My score for AMSAT Field Day was 83 points.
The breakdown by satellite is below:
AO-7B - 2 QSOs
AO-73 - 10 QSOs, 1 dupe
AO-85 - 1 QSO, 5 excess FM QSOs
FO-29 - 37 QSOs, 4 dupes
LilacSat-2 - 1 QSO, 1 excess FM QSO
SO-50 - 1 QSO
Ukube-1 - 6 QSOs
XW-2A - 11 QSOs
XW-2C - 6 QSOs, 2 dupes
XW-2F - 8 QSOs, 1 dupe
Total - 83 valid phone QSOs, 8 dupes, 6 excess FM QSOs = 83 points
The major difference between AMSAT and ARRL Field Day rules for
satellite is that "satellite" is considered a single band while for
AMSAT Field Day, each satellite transponder is considered a separate
band. For example, if I worked WD9EWK in SSB on FO-29 and then in SSB
on XW-2A, that would be worth two points under AMSAT rules, but only
one point under ARRL rules. VE3YRA was my most worked station this
year - I worked them on six different satellites.
I was operating 1B from the parking lot/courtyard of my apartment
building in southwest Washington, DC.
The equipment I used was as follows:
2 x Yaesu FT-817 (with 3000 mAh internal LiPo batteries)
Microset VUR-30 dual band amplifier
5100 mAh LiPo battery for the amplifier
High Sierra Microwave LNAA432 preamplifier
High Sierra Microwave LNAA146FIL filtered 2m preamp
Arrow II 146/437-10BP Dual Band Handheld Yagi
All of this was carried in a camera bag and held by shoulder straps
while I held the Arrow in my hand.
It was lots of fun, though tiring to head downstairs and outside for
24 different passes. I only slept for about 2.5 hours between 3:30am
and 6:00am (and skipped a pair of AO-7 passes as a result).
One big issue I notice during Field Day is the use of excess power on
the transponders and the inexperience and/or inadequate stations used
by many of the satellite operators. Many times I would call a station
and not receive a reply or someone would start CQing or tuning up on
top of me. This was especially noticeable on AO-73 and UKube-1 as the
frequencies for the uplink are somewhat different than published. It
sounded like many were trying to use their computers to correct for
Doppler and did not have the experience necessary to set the uplink
offset. I heard several "ditters" trying to find themselves for entire
passes. Operating satellites isn't difficult, but it does take some
practice and experience to understand the characteristics of each
satellite. Trying to figure it out at 1800Z on Field Day Saturday is
not the recipe for success.
I would note that my excess FM QSOs (both ARRL and AMSAT rules allow
only one QSO per FM satellite, AMSAT rules further limit APRS
digipeater QSOs to one per satellite as well) were made because
stations were calling and attempting to make a contact with no one
else replying and I wanted to make sure they got their QSO.
It's fun doing Field Day from home, but next year I think I would like
to head to a Field Day site and help with satellite operations for a
club (and maybe fill in elsewhere between passes).
73,
Paul, N8HM
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 14:57:44 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] N8HM Field Day Report - 1B MDC
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On Mon, Jun 27, 2016 at 2:12 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Operating satellites isn't difficult, but it does take some
> practice and experience to understand the characteristics of each
> satellite. Trying to figure it out at 1800Z on Field Day Saturday is
> not the recipe for success.
Not counting obsolete SAREX/MIR/AO-13 experience, I managed to make a
few QSOs before I got the idea to try to get the bonus for the FD
group I was with (W5YM, my alma mater, celebrating their centennial).
Even though I stuck to FM 'phone and mostly SO-50 at that, it was
still enough of a zoo (for the reasons you mentioned) to keep me from
snagging the bonus.
Next summer, I think it would behoove AMSAT to try to get the word
out, probably via an ARRL bulletin, for folks NOT to try to figure it
out at 1800Z on Field Day Saturday! Word it nicely, of course, "hey,
try the easy sats this weekend". Heck, you could even bill it as a
pre-FD tune-up exercise ...
*Might* lessen the chaos on FD itself. *Might*. Certainly a low-cost
effort with a good potential payoff ...
In my case, I think enough folks were impressed just at how loud the
signals are that we may see some new stations show up on the sats.
--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2016 12:59:49 -0700
From: Chris Spacone <cspacone@xxxxx.xx.xxx>
To: Kelly Keeton <kellyrkeeton@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Southern CA Satellite Presentations
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Agreed. No more.
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> On Jun 27, 2016, at 08:59, Kelly Keeton <kellyrkeeton@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Can we argue in a less public email reflector.
>
> We all get it - some people like ford some people like Chevy let's bury it
or take it offline. My inbox is tired of this.
>
> Sent from a mobile device.
>
>> On Jun 27, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Daron Wilson <daron@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Cliff, unless I'm missing something, you claim below to never say:
>>
>>> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD."
>>
>> Then you say what you tell your class is:
>>
>>> Although this
>>> method is preferred, it is not mandatory:
>>
>> I'm a little confused...
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Jun 26, 2016, at 8:37 PM, Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>>
>>>>> ... you would quit telling people that full duplex is "not mandatory"
for working sats.
>>>
>>> You've never attended one of my sat sessions. I have never uttered the
sentence to groups,
>>> "It is not mandatory to work full-duplex. - PERIOD." My standard mantra
for the easy FM birds
>>> is all over the place:
>>>
>>> "Ideally, we should be working the satellites in full duplex mode, where
we can
>>> simultaneously listen to the downlink as we are transmitting. Although
this
>>> method is preferred, it is not mandatory: Carefully monitor the
downlink, and
>>> wait for a break in the conversations to announce yourself."
>>>
>>> People you might be hearing stepping on others are not following those
instructions.
>>>
>>> And all my audiences are very graphically shown and told the reasons why
working full-
>>> duplex is preferable.
>>>
>>> I didn't work full-duplex when speaking with Commander Wiseman - who was
aboard
>>> the ISS at the time during Field Day 2014.
>>>
>>> If you haven't already given a presentation to your club on working the
easy birds,
>>> I am available. Just send me an email message.
>>>
>>> Clint Bradford K6LCS
>>> (909) 999-SATS
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