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Today's Topics:

   1. Preamps and Polarization Switches (Fred Castello)
   2. Re: Preamps and Polarization Switches (Bob)
   3. Re: Preamps and Polarization Switches (Jim Jerzycke)
   4. MY struggles with AO-85 (Ken Alexander)
   5. Re: Mode K (fact and fiction?) (skristof@xxxxxxx.xxxx
   6. XW sats (D. Craig Fox)
   7. Re: Mode K (fact and fiction?) (Greg D)
   8. AMSAT at Moon Day in Dallas July 16th, volunteers needed.
      (Tom Schuessler)
   9. Re: Mode K (fact and fiction?) (Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE)
  10. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-07-02 06:00	UTC
      (AJ9N@xxx.xxxx
  11. Re: Mode K (fact and fiction?) (E.Mike McCardel)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 18:13:19 -0400
From: Fred Castello <fredcastello@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT bbs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Preamps and Polarization Switches
Message-ID: <CC2F00C4-EF31-4684-9801-3E856EF251E1@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Newbie here and I am trying to put together a station.  I have a question
about preamps.  I am making the following assumptions but please correct me
or outline your station feeds if I am incorrect in my assumptions:

Most experienced operators are using moderate to high gain yagi antennas,
circular polarized.  I am thinking of purchasing the M2 LEO pack.  I am
assuming that most folks are using RF protected preamps to keep from blowing
them up on transmit.  It would be easier if one knew that they were always
going to transmit on 2 meters (for instance) and one could place the NON RF
protected preamp on 70 cms.  However, since there is a mix of V/U and U/V
birds, it would seem the only way to get preamps up at the antenna where
they belong is to use RF protected preamps ( with weather and RF protection,
significantly more expensive).  Is there a role for diplexers here rather
than running expensive RF protected switching?  Also, I know from my
listening on my Elk Antenna that change in polarization can make a pretty
significant difference in adequate reception.  So, it would also seem that
there is a need with these type of antennas (M2 LEO) to have a polarization
switching (cost for both
  antennas almost matches the original cost of the antennas).  Do most
operators have these switchable polarization switches.  My shack is about 60
feet from the top of the roof, so I will have to deal with those losses in
spite of using good cable.  I was thinking of just starting with the
antennas (no preamps, no polarization switching) and see how things go.  Any
thoughts or advice would be much appreciated.
Best
Fred Castello, KF4FC

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:22:08 -0400
From: Bob <WB4SON@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Fred Castello <fredcastello@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT bbs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamps and Polarization Switches
Message-ID:
<CAPonRZ9-ePF6YE5T33ruE7-eBv42cAqSsbkCjich-VWnHNXi8Q@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hey Fred,

Hard to say what "most" means, but "Mast Mounted RF Switched Preamps" do
show up at a lot of stations. To your point, one might only purchase a 2
meter version, as so many birds are mode UV.  I happen to use one on each
antenna (FO-29 being a big driver for that).  In the US, Both SSB
Engineering as well as Advanced Receiver Research preamps seem to be
popular.  Either will hot-switch 100 watts, both can be powered via the
coax (although that is a special order item for ARR).  I use the SSB
Engineering SP-200 and SP-70 preamp. They were installed in 1998 and have
been working flawlessly for 18 years now, surviving a bunch of bad New
England weather.

Perhaps some folks use diplexers, but I sure would be concerned about
port-to-port isolation.  After all, you are pumping perhaps 50 watts out
(+47 dBm), and expecting to receive a signal that is around -120 dBm.
That's a difference of 167 dB.  I don't know of any diplexers that have
that kind of isolation. Without adequate isolation you are going to
experience RF blocking on your downlink.

As for polarity switches, keep in mind that most satellites use linear
antennas, so simply using a circular polarized antenna will help minimize
deep fades most of the time.  But I also know from personal experience that
sometimes switching from RHCP to LHCP can make a world of difference.

In round figures each step you take is about the same cost:  CP Yagi, Mast
Mounted Preamp, Polarization switch.  Roughly $1200 for all three steps.
Of course then you need to multiply that price by two (70cm and 2m sets),
and toss in another $1500 for a Az/El rotor and controller, and maybe
another $1000 in coax and control cables.  So $5000 for a full system at
new prices.  Eek!

Your plan for starting with just the antennas will far exceed your
expectations compared to the Elk.  As long as you don't mind pulling
everything down off the tower, putting those improvements in later will be
just fine.  Some people will skip the elevation rotor and simply mount the
beams at a fixed elevation of 30 degrees

73, Bob, WB4SON


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 23:57:00 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Preamps and Polarization Switches
Message-ID: <5777034C.2020109@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Hi, Fred

I'm using an M2 2M7 2 meter beam, and an M2 420-450-11 70cm beam, with
an SSB Electronic preamp on each. Prior to dedicating these antennas to
satellite work, they were my "weak signal" terrestrial antennas. I have
them mounted on the cross boom at 45* to the boom so that they're 90* to
each other. I have a"reverse connected" diplexer ahead of the preamp on
the 70cm antenna, and I use a 2 meter band-pass filter at the 2 meter
output of the rig. These things have eliminated the 70cm desense I used
to have when transmitting on 2 meters.

I ran separate DC power leads to the preamps after I blew out the preamp
power switching transistor in my FT-847 by not checking to see if my 2
meter bandpass filter was DC grounded!

The antennas are linear polarized, and work extremely well, although I
do occasionally notice a some fade on certain satellites. It's nothing
that really bothers me, and it saved me a ton of $$ compared to having
switchable CP antennas. Switchable polarization is "nice" to have, but
IMO, unless you have some compelling reason that requires 100% copy,
it's not worth the significant cost premium.

I'm have a "used" Yeasu G-5400B Az/El rotator set I got from a friend
who bought it new, and then never used it. I built a Fox Delta kit
that's a clone of the LVB Tracker, so by using SatPC32, I have full
rotator control and Doppler correction.

I use Davis RF "Bury Flex" cable, although there are other very good
"RG-8 sized" cables available. The DX-400 cable from DX Engineering is
another good quality cable I've used at VHF/UHF with good results.

By all means, start with the antennas, and add things as your budget allows.

73, Jim  KQ6EA


On 07/01/2016 10:13 PM, Fred Castello wrote:
> Newbie here and I am trying to put together a station.  I have a question
about preamps.  I am making the following assumptions but please correct me
or outline your station feeds if I am incorrect in my assumptions:
>
> Most experienced operators are using moderate to high gain yagi antennas,
circular polarized.  I am thinking of purchasing the M2 LEO pack.  I am
assuming that most folks are using RF protected preamps to keep from blowing
them up on transmit.  It would be easier if one knew that they were always
going to transmit on 2 meters (for instance) and one could place the NON RF
protected preamp on 70 cms.  However, since there is a mix of V/U and U/V
birds, it would seem the only way to get preamps up at the antenna where
they belong is to use RF protected preamps ( with weather and RF protection,
significantly more expensive).  Is there a role for diplexers here rather
than running expensive RF protected switching?  Also, I know from my
listening on my Elk Antenna that change in polarization can make a pretty
significant difference in adequate reception.  So, it would also seem that
there is a need with these type of antennas (M2 LEO) to have a polarization
switching (cost for bo
 th
>    antennas almost matches the original cost of the antennas).  Do most
operators have these switchable polarization switches.  My shack is about 60
feet from the top of the roof, so I will have to deal with those losses in
spite of using good cable.  I was thinking of just starting with the
antennas (no preamps, no polarization switching) and see how things go.  Any
thoughts or advice would be much appreciated.
> Best
> Fred Castello, KF4FC
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 20:22:50 -0400
From: Ken Alexander <k.alexander@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] MY struggles with AO-85
Message-ID: <1082164e-ea5a-9c4b-2d55-c4c9f58476e9@xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

In several attempts I have yet to hear myself on the AO-85 downlink.
finally, after playing with SatPC32 this evening I realized it tells me
pretty well exactly where I should be.  I ran through an upcoming pass
to see what it tells me and the result is tabulated in the following
table.  First column is time (UTC), second column is the fine freq to 4
decimals and the third column are frequencies I can actually enter in my
TH-D72 with its 5 kHz frequency step.  435.170 at AOS confirms what many
ops have told me in the last few days.  What I forgot was how fast the
frequency changes as AO-85 passes through its maximum elevation; the
middle 3 minutes will be busy!

Anyway, I was pleased to "discover" this and hope the information will
give me what I need to finally make a QSO or two.  Now I just hope I
don't get rained out!

73,

Ken Alexander
VE3HLS



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 01 Jul 2016 20:55:16 -0400
From: skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: Dave Mann <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: rsoifer1@xxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode K (fact and fiction?)
Message-ID: <8b5e214246bb7d6ba25cda61767487e5@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII

Thanks!

Steve AI9IN

On 2016-07-01 14:39, Dave Mann wrote:

> I just now ordered it and when it arrives will scan it and post to our
files as a searchable pdf.  I have a commercial book scanner and Linux ....
Easy peasy
>
> Dave
> N4CVX
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jul 1, 2016, at 11:02, Bob Cutter <ki0gqrp@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Amazon has it used.
>
> Bob
>
> On Jul 1, 2016, at 9:29 AM, rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>
> It's 242 pages, and I don't have a scanner.
>
> Sorry.
>
> 73 Ray
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: skristof <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: RSoifer1 <RSoifer1@xxx.xxx>
> Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Fri, Jul 1, 2016 8:09 am
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode K (fact and fiction?)
>
> I'm guessing it's many pages, but is there any way to make a copy
available online (pdf or ???)?
> Then you wouldn't have to worry about shipping it and it would be readily
available to anyone who wants to read it.
> Steve AI9IN
>
> On 2016-07-01 10:30, RSoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>
> Bob,
>
> John wrote up many of his findings in his Space Radio Handbook, published
> by RSGB in 1991.  If you can't locate a  copy, let me know and I  can send
> you mine.
>
> 73 Ray
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:06:09 -0700
From: "D. Craig Fox" <DFox@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] XW sats
Message-ID: <9207FFAC-7F04-4AEA-BA0B-4F21342E4F8F@xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

Wow so under used
Was on the last passes of XW2C and XW2F
Very loud, very quiet - too bad
Will be on XW2A in one minute- high pass again for SoCal
73s
Craig
N6RSX


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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 19:26:06 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode K (fact and fiction?)
Message-ID: <5777263E.1010107@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

Hi Bob,

A single data point, partial answer to your question...  Of course it
depends on where you are in the sunspot cycle, and I didn't work mode K
very often (preferred Mode A with RS-10), but I don't recall many (any?)
times when I should have heard the bird and didn't.  Lots of times that
I heard conversations on the 10m downlink of folks who were working
simplex in the uplink passband and didn't know it.  But as you note, we
often dismiss and forget missing things due to bad propagation, since
that's the norm on HF.

Greg  KO6TH


Robert Bruninga wrote:
> So far, no one has described how often they could not even hear the bird
> or get into it even though it was in range.  I think that is the data that
> is missing?



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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 21:37:43 -0500
From: "Tom Schuessler" <tjschuessler@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT at Moon Day in Dallas July 16th, volunteers
needed.
Message-ID: <008201d1d40a$b6158480$22408d80$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Saturday July 16th is this year?s date for ?Moon Day? at the Frontiers of
Flight Museum at Love Field in Dallas, Texas.? See
http://www.flightmuseum.com/moon-day-2016/ for more information.? Last year
saw over 1500 people attend this, the largest space themed STEM event in
Texas.? Moon Day 2016?s highlight will be a scheduled telebridge ARISS
contact during the later part of the morning.? AMSAT volunteers will be on
hand along with the Dallas Amateur Radio club to ?show off some fun aspects
of our hobby.? Girl Scouts can work toward a STEM patch by visiting many of
the exhibitors and filling out a worksheet on each.? AMSAT?s setup is part
of that STEM project again this year.? We will have the Fox 1 Cubesat model
on hand to help show the many young visitors the exciting world of small
satellites that they can hold in their hand and communicate through.?
Hopefully we can get some good satellite contacts and HF contacts throughout
the day with our 1X1 special event callsign, K5M.

Volunteers are needed to help man the display tables inside the museum and
also a satellite/HF demonstration area outside, (Shade will be provided).?
Please contact Tom Schuessler, N5HYP for more information on how you can
help with this wonderful opportunity to promote Amateur Radio and what we do
via AMSAT and ARISS to the general public.

Tom Schuessler
N5hyp@xxxx.xxx




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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 1 Jul 2016 22:00:55 -0500
From: "Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE" <kevin@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode K (fact and fiction?)
Message-ID: <011701d1d40d$f563b230$e02b1690$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Gents (et.al)
I used to love those RS birds!  "Easy-Sats" was an understatement.  I think
RS-15 is still up there but only the beacon is active.  My favorites were
RS-12/13 which I think were on the same rocket.  I don't know how many
grids/cards I got on CW and SSB with those two.  If I remember right there
was Mode K which was 2 Up and 10 Down and Mode T which was 15 Up and 2 Down.
I could hit those using 10 watts and a J-Pole on 2M and a dipole for 10M.  I
believe that 12/13 was somewhere around 250 miles up and RS-15 was around
1200 miles but I might be mistaken about RS-15.

I did find these:
http://www.issfanclub.com/node/2463
http://www.qsl.net/kd4cga/howtos.htm
http://www.amsat.org/amsat-new/satellites/sat_summary/rs15.php


Kevin Muenzler, WB5RUE
EL09uf
http://www.eaglecreekobservatory.org
I was going to take over the world but then I saw something shiny!




-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Robert
Bruninga
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 8:16 AM
To: AMSAT-BB
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode K (fact and fiction?)

> The late John Branegan, GM4IHJ (CDR, Royal Navy) did a lot of good
> research on Mode K using the RS birds.
> ... an effective way of... satellite DX despite today's low orbits.

Thanks!  Ill research it.  The over the horizon DX aspect is what everyone
remembers.

And that is what I want to study.  My theory is that with the variability of
the ionosphere, that just as much as there is enhanced beyond-the-horizon
relay some times, there is also times of no-path because the ionosphere at
low elevations is bending the path away from the bird.

My theory is that hams like DX and remember the GOOD DX, but then
conveniently forget all the times when the link was dead.  So  I think what
I hear from "the good ole days" has to be taken with a grain of salt since
the dead band days are not as memorable as that rare double bounce hop to
timbuktoo.

So far, no one has described how often they could not even hear the bird or
get into it even though it was in range.  I think that is the data that is
missing?

Bob, WB4APR
HFSAT in 2018?
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 02:03:45 -0400
From: AJ9N@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-07-02
06:00	UTC
Message-ID: <b4417.3818462b.44a8b341@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2016-07-02  06:00 UTC

Quick list of scheduled contacts and  events:

The All-Russian Public Organization Radio And  Radiol?bitel?Stva "The
Russian amateur radio Union", Ufa, Russia, direct via  RZ9WWB
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS
The scheduled  astronaut is Oleg Skripochka RN3FU
Contact is a go for Thu 2016-06-30 07:55  UTC

Justus-Knecht-Gymnasium, Bruchsal, Germany, direct via  DN1JKG
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled  astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Contact was successful: Fri 2016-07-01  08:31:23 UTC 74 deg (***)

Science Museum of Virginia, Richmond,  Virginia, telebridge via VK5ZAI
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Contact is a go for:  Wed 2016-07-06 14:28:20 UTC 77  deg

****************************************************************************
**
ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.
ARISS  thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send
your  reports to aj9n@xxxxx.xxx or  aj9n@xxx.xxx.
****************************************************************************
***

All  ARISS contacts are made via the Ericsson radio unless otherwise  noted.

****************************************************************************
***

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS  websites from this  site.

****************************************************************************
Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete
details.  Look for the buttons indicating Ham  Video.


http://www.ariss-eu.org/

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
****************************************************************************
ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100

schools:

Gaston ON4WF with 121
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with  119
Francesco IK?WGF with  116

****************************************************************************
The  webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are
additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the listed
time.
All dates and  times listed follow International  Standard ISO 8601 date
and
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The  complete schedule page has been updated as of 2016-07-02 06:00 UTC.
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Total number of  ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1065. (***)
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1030.  (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time  slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.

A  complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are  needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas,  Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern
Marianas  Islands, and the Virgin  Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

****************************************************************************
The  successful school list has been updated as of 2016-07-02 06:00 UTC.
(***)

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency   chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler   correction  as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf

Listing  of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30  UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check  out the Zoho reports of the ARISS  contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
****************************************************************************
Exp.  47 on orbit
Jeff Williams KD5TVQ
Oleg Skripochka RN3FU
Aleksey  Ovchinin

****************************************************************************

73,
Charlie   Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors


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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 10:27:39 -0400
From: "E.Mike McCardel" <mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Dave Mann <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: rsoifer1@xxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode K (fact and fiction?)
Message-ID: <A6034D8B-6D39-4734-9531-656A3819130A@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Please consider copyright laws before you copy and place this online.
Convenient yes, but not necessarily legal.

EMike

EMike McCardel, AA8EM
Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 1, 2016, at 2:39 PM, Dave Mann <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> I just now ordered it and when it arrives will scan it and post to our
files as a searchable pdf.  I have a commercial book scanner and Linux ....
Easy peasy
>
> Dave
> N4CVX
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 11:02, Bob Cutter <ki0gqrp@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Amazon has it used.
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>> On Jul 1, 2016, at 9:29 AM, rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>> It's 242 pages, and I don't have a scanner.
>>>
>>> Sorry.
>>>
>>> 73 Ray
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: skristof <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>>> To: RSoifer1 <RSoifer1@xxx.xxx>
>>> Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>>> Sent: Fri, Jul 1, 2016 8:09 am
>>> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode K (fact and fiction?)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'm guessing it's many pages, but is there any way to make a copy
available online (pdf or ???)?
>>> Then you wouldn't have to worry about shipping it and it would be
readily available to anyone who wants to read it.
>>> Steve AI9IN
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2016-07-01 10:30, RSoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>> John wrote up many of his findings in his Space Radio Handbook, published
>>> by RSGB in 1991.  If you can't locate a  copy, let me know and I  can send
>>> you mine.
>>>
>>> 73 Ray
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