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Today's Topics:
1. Re: North and South Pole Gridsquares (Jim Walls)
2. Re: FO-29 QRM (Fernando Ramirez)
3. Re: FO-29 QRM (Jim Walls)
4. Re: North and South Pole Gridsquares (Chris Wilford)
5. Re: North and South Pole Gridsquares (Peter Laws)
6. Re: SatPC32 Problem (Daniel Cussen)
7. Re: FO-29 QRM (John Becker)
8. Re: FO-29 QRM (Zach Leffke)
9. Re: North and South Pole Gridsquares
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
10. Re: North and South Pole Gridsquares (Norm n3ykf)
11. RadFxSat Testing (Alan)
12. Re: FO-29 QRM (Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 10:25:08 -0700
From: "Jim Walls" <jim@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] North and South Pole Gridsquares
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So when are you going there so we can get VUCC in one contact?
Jim Walls
K6CCC
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From: "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:10 AM
To: "Chris Wilford" <wilfordchris@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] North and South Pole Gridsquares
You are absolutely correct!
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Monday, July 25, 2016, Chris Wilford <wilfordchris@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> To the gridsquare chasers out there, I have a question regarding the
poles.
>
> If a Ham was to transmit from the North pole what grids would he/she be
> activating?
>
> I've heard that RR could be the poles grid, but wouldn't the
longitudinal
> intersection of all 18 North grids from AR - RR converge at the pole?
>
> That would give you 180 grids for one contact!
>
> Chris VE7CEW
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 10:30:27 -0700
From: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Dave Mann <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 QRM
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Actually, the accent is from the Dominican Republic. In the recording we
hear two callsigns, HI3EAS and KM4MDF. I'll be glad to shot him an email.
Just let me know which frequency were they using.
73
Fernando, NP4JV
On Jul 25, 2016 10:23 AM, "Dave Mann" <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I re-listened to the audio. Indeed, the call was KD4MDF. His accent was
> definitely central American Spanish. Most likely a Hispanic-American; the
> way he used the phrase "y yo lo creo" is a colloquial Spanish expression
> used by many Mexican-Americans. Literally translated it means "ok, I got
> that". It really means " .. and, yes, that is it ..." If he were European
> Spanish (the Mother-tongue) he would have said " Y Ya lo creo". There are
> so many distinct accents and little catch phrases in Spanish it it just
> like English. When I was in Spain, locals would immediately identify me as
> having learned Spanish from a Mexican. FYI my mother was raised by a
> Mexican Nanny who was Poncho Villa's youngest sister. I have lots of QSOs
> in Spanish as well as having done voice intercept operations for years, so
> I am sort of attuned, as it were. Never have a problem on CW, however
> :-). BTW, if you listen to the drug traffickers on 40 meters, you will
> hear that they have "zapatas" (shoes) --- those are kilos of heroin.
> Enough of this off-topic stuff already!
>
> Hasta lo Pronto mi Compadres (Compa?eros if you are Cuban)
>
> Dave
> N4CVX
> ex-VP2EHF, KR6DEM, DA1BB, /HP, G5, HS1, etc.)
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:08, Andrew Glasbrenner <
> glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > I've been told the email server choked yesterday and was fixed this AM.
> I'm not sure on the formatting issue.
> >
> > 73, Drew KO4MA
> >
> >> On Jul 24, 2016, at 9:34 PM, R.T.Liddy <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >>
> >> Question:
> >> If I posted this at 2:02 PM EDT, why does it take until 8:46 PM to get
> forwarded by the AMSAT-BB ? ? ? The formatting gets fouled-up, too, with
> the sentences run together.
> >> Just curious..... 73, Bob K8BL
> >>
> >> From: R.T.Liddy <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> >> To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 2:02 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 QRM
> >>
> >> Drew,
> >> The Spanish-speaker's Call sounds like KD4MDF after listeningto it
> multiple times. Kilo-Delta-Cuatro-Mike-Delta-Fauxtrot He slurs the last
> letter. That listing is from Orlando, FL. Heprobably doesn't realize that
> he's on a SAT uplink freq.
> >> The foul-mouthed Anglo guy sounds like a Trucker in motion.
> >> GL/73, Bob K8BL
> >>
> >> From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> >> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> >> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 12:31 PM
> >> Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 QRM
> >>
> >> Just now on FO-29, I observed and recorded part of some strong FM QRM.
> These
> >> signals corresponded to an uplink of 145.900, and were from at least two
> >> sources, as there was a Spanish language QSO (of which I caught one US
> >> callsign), and a possibly non-amateur QSO in English with a northeastern
> >> accent and foul language. One or more of these may be originating from
> an
> >> Echolink node or similar gateway outside of the identifying station's
> >> control. I want to put this recording out there for anyone who might
> know or
> >> recognize the stations, and anyone that may hear something I didn't. The
> >> recording ends at about 16:08:15Z today.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/64571tcoj0y3o2e/FO-29%20QRM%2024JUL16%20ending%201
> >> 6-08-15.mp3?dl=0
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 73, Drew KO4MA
> >>
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 10:42:15 -0700
From: "Jim Walls" <jim@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 QRM
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Dave, You might want to check that again. A Google search by the KM4MD
does come up with a woman, but the qrzcq.com listing you linked has a name
of Bill in Georga, and the FCC ULS does not list a license (any status) for
KM4MD. The Twitter / Instagram accounts pretty well explains her handles
and it has nothing to do with amateur radio. It's her name - Kathkleen
Matthews 4 Maryland (where she lives).
Jim Walls
K6CCC
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From: "Dave Mann" <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:08 AM
To: "Greg D" <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "Amsat BB" <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 QRM
Www.qrzcq.com, plus FCC database. She has a twitter and linked in account
also.
73
Dave N4CVX
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 25, 2016, at 11:45, Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Hi Dave,
>
> QRZ.com thinks KM4MD is not a valid call. What database are you finding
> an XYL in?
>
> Just curious,
>
> Greg KO6TH
>
>
> Dave Mann wrote:
>> I did some checking and KM4MDF is a Spanish- speaking ham in Orlando.
KM4MD is an XYL.
>>
>> 73
>> Dave
>> N4CVX
>
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 10:47:57 -0700
From: Chris Wilford <wilfordchris@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] North and South Pole Gridsquares
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Sign me up for the next Pole Expedition! I'll carry the Arrow! 73!
Chris VE7CEW
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 10:25 AM, Jim Walls <jim@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> So when are you going there so we can get VUCC in one contact?
>
> Jim Walls
> K6CCC
>
>
>
>
> ----------------------------------------
> From: "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Monday, July 25, 2016 10:10 AM
> To: "Chris Wilford" <wilfordchris@xxxxx.xxx>
> Cc: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] North and South Pole Gridsquares
> You are absolutely correct!
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Monday, July 25, 2016, Chris Wilford <wilfordchris@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > To the gridsquare chasers out there, I have a question regarding the
> poles.
> >
> > If a Ham was to transmit from the North pole what grids would he/she be
> > activating?
> >
> > I've heard that RR could be the poles grid, but wouldn't the
> longitudinal
> > intersection of all 18 North grids from AR - RR converge at the pole?
> >
> > That would give you 180 grids for one contact!
> >
> > Chris VE7CEW
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 12:48:39 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: jim@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] North and South Pole Gridsquares
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On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 12:25 PM, Jim Walls <jim@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> So when are you going there so we can get VUCC in one contact?
As fun as that would be, VUCC rules only allow for contacts from
within a single grid, from the line between two grids, or from the
corner of 4 grids.
You could always petition the ARRL to change the rules, though.
--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 18:52:44 +0100
From: Daniel Cussen <dan@xxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 Problem
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See here for SATPC32 win 7 info:
http://www.dk1tb.de/Vista_eng.htm
On 25/07/2016, R.T.Liddy <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> AMSAT'ers,
> I loaded SatPC32 onto a new laptop I plan to use on upcomingGrid Expeditions
> from the website. However, I get an errormessage when I try to run it.
> (Windows 7 on Lenovo Thinkpad)
> Runtime error 217
> When I Google that message, all I get are links to programs thatwant to sell
> me software to scan my computer to fix it.
> Any clues on how to fix this problem?
> TNX/73, Bob K8BL (AMSAT #6593 since 1979)
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 12:56:29 -0500
From: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 QRM
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The FCC site said "no match for KD4MDF"
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:17:36 -0400
From: Zach Leffke <zleffke@xx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 QRM
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This is an interesting topic, and I know there has been a thread or two
on it in the past. FO-29 is a unique bird in that the uplink passband
fully covers about half of the allocated satellite band at 2m.
I currently have a project (albeit shelved at the moment, but we do have
a code base built up) going here at VT that is looking to geolocate
these types of interferers by taking doppler measurements, specifically
looking at FO-29. Right now I'm exploring this as part of a potential
class project as it teaches the basics of orbits, doppler shift, and how
to simulate these types of things in software. It is actually pretty
similar to the AO-73 to FO-29 crosslink project we did for the SatCom
class, with the signal source being an illegal transmitter on the Earth
instead of another amateur bird.
In my initial research/experiments with this we have heard both Spanish
and English (about a 50/50 split), and I know there have been previous
reports of Portugese (Brazil). Most of the time the signals tended to
show up in the lower portion of the downlink passband during our
experiments if I recall correctly. Some of those recordings too were
with South/Central America completely out of the footprint on ascending
passes. And I remember from previous threads folks mentioning this type
of thing over Europe as well (I think there is even a Youtube video or a
blog out there somewhere). So I would say that calling this problem
'prolific' is reasonable, and that no one country is at fault.
My question for the group is this: Would a database of these
interference events be something worth taking to say the IARU? If we
keep this project going and a few other things we are working on come
together, it is my longer term goal is to take frequent recordings of
these events and build up a database with records of who was
transmitting, what language, what frequency, what mode, and what country
(maybe even city?) they were transmitting from. After we build up a good
data set, we could then go to the legal bodies in those countries (or
the IARU?) and hopefully have them lean on the illegal ops to cease
transmission or at least change frequency out of the satellite bands.
I won't hold my breath about the various bureaucracies of the world
actually taking action against the illegal transmitters, but it couldn't
hurt to try right? And it would be good to at least document the
prolific nature of the problem. For the mean time though, its an
interesting phenomenon and makes for a potentially good class project.
-Zach, KJ4QLP
P.S. I'm having visions of a fleet of Amateur Radio SIGINT birds
monitoring our spectrum. A 200 kHz receiver for the 2m band, a 3 MHz
receiver for the UHF band, combined together and downlinked in say
S-band where there's more room to play. Kind of like how the
COSPAS-SARSAT payloads on the NOAA birds are looking for emergency
beacons at 406 MHz and bent piping the signals down in L-Band. Probably
not feasible...but it would be cool and useful for policing our
spectrum, and would help defend the S-Band spectrum for hams.
Research Associate
Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology
Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
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Cell Phone: 540-808-6305
On 7/24/2016 9:34 PM, R.T.Liddy wrote:
> Question:
> If I posted this at 2:02 PM EDT, why does it take until 8:46 PM to get
forwarded by the AMSAT-BB ? ? ? The formatting gets fouled-up, too, with the
sentences run together.
> Just curious..... 73, Bob K8BL
>
> From: R.T.Liddy <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 2:02 PM
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 QRM
>
> Drew,
> The Spanish-speaker's Call sounds like KD4MDF after listeningto it
multiple times. Kilo-Delta-Cuatro-Mike-Delta-Fauxtrot He slurs the last
letter. That listing is from Orlando, FL. Heprobably doesn't realize that
he's on a SAT uplink freq.
> The foul-mouthed Anglo guy sounds like a Trucker in motion.
> GL/73, Bob K8BL
>
> From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Sunday, July 24, 2016 12:31 PM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 QRM
>
> Just now on FO-29, I observed and recorded part of some strong FM QRM. These
> signals corresponded to an uplink of 145.900, and were from at least two
> sources, as there was a Spanish language QSO (of which I caught one US
> callsign), and a possibly non-amateur QSO in English with a northeastern
> accent and foul language. One or more of these may be originating from an
> Echolink node or similar gateway outside of the identifying station's
> control. I want to put this recording out there for anyone who might know or
> recognize the stations, and anyone that may hear something I didn't. The
> recording ends at about 16:08:15Z today.
>
>
>
> https://www.dropbox.com/s/64571tcoj0y3o2e/FO-29%20QRM%2024JUL16%20ending%201
> 6-08-15.mp3?dl=0
>
>
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
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Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 18:23:51 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] North and South Pole Gridsquares
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Peter,
The VUCC rules are silent on the maximum number of grid locators
that can be given with a single contact. Reading over the latest
copy of the VUCC rules I could find, in a November 2014 PDF at:
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/DXCC/VHF%20UHF%20Rules20141pdf.pdf
section 4(e) refers to stations that claim to operate from more than
one grid locator simultaneously. There are two examples cited,
the boundary between two grid locators or a four-grid intersection,
but the VUCC rules do not state these are the only examples of
operating from more than one grid locator simultaneously.
VUCC rule 4(f) explains how to document operating from more than
one location, again giving examples of the two most-common ways
this would happen (two or four grids). The GPS would need to have
a display with 90 degrees North or South to establish a location
at either pole. Otherwise, the operator would have to provide
ARRL with other documentation that is sufficient to show the
station was at the North or South Pole. Documentation other than
GPS might require a change in the VUCC rules, in that case.
Logbook of the World, on the other hand, would be trickier. LOTW
is configured to accept up to 4 grid locators for an individual
station location. An operator could attempt to define a series of
station locations, covering 4 grids at a time, that will cover all
of the grids at either pole. Multiple QSOs are currently required
in LOTW for those operating at a US county or state boundary,
a Canadian provincial boundary, or any international boundary.
LOTW only allows for 1 DXCC entity, one US county and state, or one
Canadian province per station location. I know this from my 2010
operation at the Peace Arch on the Canada/USA border between
Seattle and Vancouver, operating from a few US state lines, and
a few county lines over the past few years.
Then again, using a QSL card that lists all of the grids covered at
the North or South Pole may be easier than trying to make all of
the station locations and QSOs to satisfy LOTW. Add in some
photos of a GPS receiver on the QSL card, to help anyone who sees
the QSL card know where the station was located. :-)
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> As fun as that would be, VUCC rules only allow for contacts from
> within a single grid, from the line between two grids, or from the
> corner of 4 grids.
>
> You could always petition the ARRL to change the rules, though.
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 14:34:32 -0400
From: Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] North and South Pole Gridsquares
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http://polarexplorers.com/expeditions/north-pole/north-pole-flights
16900 Euros. Layover at pole possible. Who is up for a vacation? Pack
your cold wx gear.
By the web page description, it's a much visited place.
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 2:23 PM, Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)
<amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Peter,
>
> The VUCC rules are silent on the maximum number of grid locators
> that can be given with a single contact. Reading over the latest
> copy of the VUCC rules I could find, in a November 2014 PDF at:
>
> http://www.arrl.org/files/file/DXCC/VHF%20UHF%20Rules20141pdf.pdf
>
> section 4(e) refers to stations that claim to operate from more than
> one grid locator simultaneously. There are two examples cited,
> the boundary between two grid locators or a four-grid intersection,
> but the VUCC rules do not state these are the only examples of
> operating from more than one grid locator simultaneously.
>
> VUCC rule 4(f) explains how to document operating from more than
> one location, again giving examples of the two most-common ways
> this would happen (two or four grids). The GPS would need to have
> a display with 90 degrees North or South to establish a location
> at either pole. Otherwise, the operator would have to provide
> ARRL with other documentation that is sufficient to show the
> station was at the North or South Pole. Documentation other than
> GPS might require a change in the VUCC rules, in that case.
>
> Logbook of the World, on the other hand, would be trickier. LOTW
> is configured to accept up to 4 grid locators for an individual
> station location. An operator could attempt to define a series of
> station locations, covering 4 grids at a time, that will cover all
> of the grids at either pole. Multiple QSOs are currently required
> in LOTW for those operating at a US county or state boundary,
> a Canadian provincial boundary, or any international boundary.
> LOTW only allows for 1 DXCC entity, one US county and state, or one
> Canadian province per station location. I know this from my 2010
> operation at the Peace Arch on the Canada/USA border between
> Seattle and Vancouver, operating from a few US state lines, and
> a few county lines over the past few years.
>
> Then again, using a QSL card that lists all of the grids covered at
> the North or South Pole may be easier than trying to make all of
> the station locations and QSOs to satisfy LOTW. Add in some
> photos of a GPS receiver on the QSL card, to help anyone who sees
> the QSL card know where the station was located. :-)
>
> 73!
>
>
>
>
> Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
> http://www.wd9ewk.net/
> Twitter: @xxxxxx
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 5:48 PM, Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>>
>> As fun as that would be, VUCC rules only allow for contacts from
>> within a single grid, from the line between two grids, or from the
>> corner of 4 grids.
>>
>> You could always petition the ARRL to change the rules, though.
>>
>>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 13:37:20 -0500
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT-BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] RadFxSat Testing
Message-ID: <000001d1e6a3$940f8d80$bc2ea880$@xxxxx.xxx>
If you are interesting in seeing RadFxSat (Fox-1B) being put through its
paces, take a look at the
live streaming here:
https://www.youtube.com/c/n0jy/live
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
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Keep Calm and Carry On
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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 25 Jul 2016 18:57:39 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 QRM
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Zach,
The IARU Monitoring System:
http://www.iaru.org/monitoring-system.html
has been called upon to help with interference to our satellites
in the past. Instances of interference to AO-27 over North America
in the late 1990s and early 2000s came many times from Mexico.
For those instances, it took complaints by hams to the FMRE
(Mexico's IARU society), the Mexican regulator at the time
(COFETEL),
and the IARU Monitoring System to finally get the offenders
moved off the AO-27 uplink. One mention of this was in the AMSAT-BB
archives from 2000:
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/archive/amsat-bb/200011/msg00376.html
Just be realistic about how quickly the relevant authorities react
to complaints. It certainly didn't happen overnight down in Mexico
many years ago.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx
On Mon, Jul 25, 2016 at 6:17 PM, Zach Leffke <zleffke@xx.xxx> wrote:
>
> ?<snip>?
>
>
> My question for the group is this: Would a database of these interference
> events be something worth taking to say the IARU? If we keep this project
> going and a few other things we are working on come together, it is my
> longer term goal is to take frequent recordings of these events and build
> up a database with records of who was transmitting, what language, what
> frequency, what mode, and what country (maybe even city?) they were
> transmitting from. After we build up a good data set, we could then go to
> the legal bodies in those countries (or the IARU?) and hopefully have them
> lean on the illegal ops to cease transmission or at least change frequency
> out of the satellite bands.
>
> I won't hold my breath about the various bureaucracies of the world
> actually taking action against the illegal transmitters, but it couldn't
> hurt to try right? And it would be good to at least document the prolific
> nature of the problem. For the mean time though, its an interesting
> phenomenon and makes for a potentially good class project.
>
>
> -Zach, KJ4QLP
> .
>
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