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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Mode Designators (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
2. Re: Mode Designators (Joe)
3. Re: Mode Designators (Peter Laws)
4. Re: Mode Designators (Joe)
5. Re: Mode Designators (Robert Switzer)
6. Re: Mode Designators (Paul Stoetzer)
7. Re: Mode Designators (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
8. Re: Mode Designators (Peter Laws)
9. Re: Mode Designators (Paul Stoetzer)
10. Re: Mode Designators (Joe)
11. Re: Mode Designators (Joe)
12. Re: Mode Designators (Robert Switzer)
13. Re: Mode Designators (Paul Stoetzer)
14. Re: Mode Designators (Robert Switzer)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:18:13 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators
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Joe,
There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe search the
BB archives.
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S7
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:22:11 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators
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How'd I Miss that?
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/4/2016 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
> Joe,
>
> There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe search the
> BB archives.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:24:46 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Joe,
>
> There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe search the
> BB archives.
>
Unfortunately, there was no consensus. Factions were evenly split
between "we must do exactly as we did 30-40 years ago", "who cares, do
whatever you want", and "can we not bring some order to this science
and engineering hobby?"
Personally, I'm in favor of the "new scheme" that AMSAT came up with,
I believe for AO-40, with a letter for each band in the form of Z/y,
where Z is the uplink and y is the downlink. The laminated sheets
sold by AMSAT at Dayton and other places uses this consistently.
Unfortunately, adherence to the 10+ year old "new" way of denoting
modes is only supported half-heartedly by AMSAT itself.
--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:36:19 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators
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Wow, Found it,
http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-July/059392.html
And Wow, Now I have no idea as to what to tell this poor program
developer guy!
He wants to make it as useful to us Sat users as possible.
But wow, Now what?
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/4/2016 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
> Joe,
>
> There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe search the
> BB archives.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 14:48:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Switzer <rs2atmink@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators
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Perhaps tell him with some clever programming, perhaps he can provide the
"one ring to bind them" all ?
If there is no concensus, then the logger could just take the different
formats and provide the user (you)
a way to designate any valid method?
Frankly, speaking for myself as? "newer"? to hamsats, I do not find the
Mode, nor AMSAT Z/y designator
particularly useful.? No other splits, or methods, across ham radio use such
designators. I think Bob B's
suggestion of using Frequency the best going forward, even though there was
no concensus.
Rob KA2CZU
On Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:36 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
Wow, Found it,
http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-July/059392.html
And Wow, Now I have no idea as to what to tell this poor program
developer guy!
He wants to make it as useful to us Sat users as possible.
But wow,? Now what?
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/4/2016 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
> Joe,
>
> There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe search the
> BB? archives.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>
_______________________________________________
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to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:52:27 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators
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Almost all of them are already in DXLab. Very little needs to be added.
It's not really a necessary field (since you already have the RX and
TX band fields), so maybe AU should be added for NO-84, PSAT-2, and
any past and future PSK transponders, but most are already covered in
the software.
I think CX is already in there for the future AMSAT "five and dime"
projects, but if it's not, it should be added. If SX isn't in there
yet, it should be added for Phase 4A (I'm at work without DXlab
installed, so I can't check the existing list).
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> Wow, Found it,
>
> http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-July/059392.html
>
> And Wow, Now I have no idea as to what to tell this poor program developer
> guy!
>
> He wants to make it as useful to us Sat users as possible.
>
> But wow, Now what?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 8/4/2016 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
>>
>> Joe,
>>
>> There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe search the
>> BB archives.
>>
>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>
>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>>
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:56:38 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators
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How does all that work out when going to upload to LOTW? Does it
automatically convert TX band to 2m, 70cm, and so on or does that also need
to be done manually?
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S7
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 09:59:02 -0500
From: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators
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On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> But wow, Now what?
AMSAT, at some level, needs to get on the stick, make a decision,
stick with it, then clean up the website to reflect that decision. If
this were the ARRL, I'd harangue my Division Director about it and
maybe, if I was lucky, something would happen (I've actually seen that
happen once!). I've not paid enough attention to AMSAT in the past to
know how to do that here and I've only been a member since Dayton.
As it is, you can pick your designators. You can choose 1994
(http://www.amsat.org/amsat/intro/sats_faq.html) or 1998
(ftp://ftp.amsat.org/amsat/press-releases/p3dfact2.pdf) and point to
definitive documentation at AMSAT's own site. I bet if you googled a
little harder, you could come up with others, even.
I've offered in the past to help clean up crufty old stuff on the site
before and I make the same offer again. At the very least, the cruft
needs to be marked as cruft with links to current documentation.
--
Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 11:00:00 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators
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No, it's a separate field and not required for LoTW. You have to enter
the band/frequency fields separately.
The mode field is completely unnecessary, but is part of the ADIF
spec. I like to set it so I can run stats easily on Mode B vs. Mode J,
but it's still somewhat redundant.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> How does all that work out when going to upload to LOTW? Does it
> automatically convert TX band to 2m, 70cm, and so on or does that also need
> to be done manually?
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S7
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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:04:49 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: Robert Switzer <robert_switzer@xxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators
Message-ID: <edc8e8dc-b42c-326f-9e48-eb3241e3ddde@xxx.xxx>
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I also like the frequency thing except,
HZ?
KHZ?
MHZ?
GHZ?
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/4/2016 9:48 AM, Robert Switzer wrote:
> Perhaps tell him with some clever programming, perhaps he can provide
> the "one ring to bind them" all ?
>
> If there is no concensus, then the logger could just take the
> different formats and provide the user (you)
> a way to designate any valid method?
>
> Frankly, speaking for myself as "newer" to hamsats, I do not find
> the Mode, nor AMSAT Z/y designator
> particularly useful. No other splits, or methods, across ham radio
> use such designators. I think Bob B's
> suggestion of using Frequency the best going forward, even though
> there was no concensus.
>
> Rob KA2CZU
>
>
> On Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:36 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
> Wow, Found it,
>
> http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-July/059392.html
>
> And Wow, Now I have no idea as to what to tell this poor program
> developer guy!
>
> He wants to make it as useful to us Sat users as possible.
>
> But wow, Now what?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com <http://www.idle-tyme.com/>
> On 8/4/2016 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
> > Joe,
> >
> > There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe
> search the
> > BB archives.
> >
> > Dave-KB1PVH
> >
> > Sent from my Galaxy S7
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.> AMSAT-NA
> makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
> views of AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> >
> >
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.> AMSAT-NA
> makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 10:07:41 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators
Message-ID: <dfad4dc1-da47-c330-2237-3a8541f99fa6@xxx.xxx>
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Hi Paul, Yeah adding it ( if needed was easy with the SAT list)
too bad Dave doesn't have a also easily edited list for the modes so we
can just do the work for him ya know?
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/4/2016 9:52 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> Almost all of them are already in DXLab. Very little needs to be added.
>
> It's not really a necessary field (since you already have the RX and
> TX band fields), so maybe AU should be added for NO-84, PSAT-2, and
> any past and future PSK transponders, but most are already covered in
> the software.
>
> I think CX is already in there for the future AMSAT "five and dime"
> projects, but if it's not, it should be added. If SX isn't in there
> yet, it should be added for Phase 4A (I'm at work without DXlab
> installed, so I can't check the existing list).
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Wow, Found it,
>>
>> http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-July/059392.html
>>
>> And Wow, Now I have no idea as to what to tell this poor program developer
>> guy!
>>
>> He wants to make it as useful to us Sat users as possible.
>>
>> But wow, Now what?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> On 8/4/2016 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
>>> Joe,
>>>
>>> There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe search the
>>> BB archives.
>>>
>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>
>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 15:08:30 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Switzer <rs2atmink@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators
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<1149003209.9413606.1470323310585.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Which is why, with software, especially software being actively developed,
you shouldn't have to worry about it at all.
Just set the T/R Frequencies and the designator or mode can easily be
derived, in LOTW or any other logger.
Rob KA2CZU
On Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:00 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
No, it's a separate field and not required for LoTW. You have to enter
the band/frequency fields separately.
The mode field is completely unnecessary, but is part of the ADIF
spec. I like to set it so I can run stats easily on Mode B vs. Mode J,
but it's still somewhat redundant.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:56 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> How does all that work out when going to upload to LOTW? Does it
> automatically convert TX band to 2m, 70cm, and so on or does that also need
> to be done manually?
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S7
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 11:08:36 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators
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The official AMSAT mode designations are the modern versions that were
created for the Phase 3D project (which through out the old mode
system because of the matrix design that allowed any transmitter to
linked to any receiver). The current version of the website as well as
AMSAT publications (such as the Getting Started guide) reflect the
modern AMSAT mode designations (though often with the old designations
in parentheticals).
The sites you have listed are not part of the current AMSAT website.
They are retained on the server solely as historical material. Please
contact Joe Fitzgerald, KM1P, if you would like to help mark and
organize the AMSAT website archives. We are extremely short of
volunteers to help maintain and create content for the website and
would be grateful for any assistance that could be provided.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 10:59 AM, Peter Laws <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 4, 2016 at 9:36 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>> But wow, Now what?
>
> AMSAT, at some level, needs to get on the stick, make a decision,
> stick with it, then clean up the website to reflect that decision. If
> this were the ARRL, I'd harangue my Division Director about it and
> maybe, if I was lucky, something would happen (I've actually seen that
> happen once!). I've not paid enough attention to AMSAT in the past to
> know how to do that here and I've only been a member since Dayton.
>
> As it is, you can pick your designators. You can choose 1994
> (http://www.amsat.org/amsat/intro/sats_faq.html) or 1998
> (ftp://ftp.amsat.org/amsat/press-releases/p3dfact2.pdf) and point to
> definitive documentation at AMSAT's own site. I bet if you googled a
> little harder, you could come up with others, even.
>
>
> I've offered in the past to help clean up crufty old stuff on the site
> before and I make the same offer again. At the very least, the cruft
> needs to be marked as cruft with links to current documentation.
>
>
>
> --
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 4 Aug 2016 15:11:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: Robert Switzer <rs2atmink@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>, Robert Switzer <robert_switzer@xxx.xxx>,
"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Mode Designators
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Pick MHz if you have to, but again, it's a simple form change to specify.
Really, we are not programming in assembly language any longer.
Rob KA2CZU
Show original message On Thursday, August 4, 2016 11:05 AM, Joe
<nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
I also like the frequency thing except,
HZ?
KHZ?
MHZ?
GHZ?
Joe WB9SBD
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On 8/4/2016 9:48 AM, Robert Switzer wrote:
> Perhaps tell him with some clever programming, perhaps he can provide
> the "one ring to bind them" all ?
>
> If there is no concensus, then the logger could just take the
> different formats and provide the user (you)
> a way to designate any valid method?
>
> Frankly, speaking for myself as? "newer"? to hamsats, I do not find
> the Mode, nor AMSAT Z/y designator
> particularly useful.? No other splits, or methods, across ham radio
> use such designators. I think Bob B's
> suggestion of using Frequency the best going forward, even though
> there was no concensus.
>
> Rob KA2CZU
>
>
> On Thursday, August 4, 2016 10:36 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>
> Wow, Found it,
>
> http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-July/059392.html
>
> And Wow, Now I have no idea as to what to tell this poor program
> developer guy!
>
> He wants to make it as useful to us Sat users as possible.
>
> But wow,? Now what?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
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> On 8/4/2016 9:18 AM, Dave Webb KB1PVH wrote:
> > Joe,
> >
> > There was a big discussion about this a couple weeks ago, maybe
> search the
> > BB? archives.
> >
> > Dave-KB1PVH
> >
> > Sent from my Galaxy S7
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