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Today's Topics:
1. Re: AO-73/FUNcube (Jim Heck G3WGM)
2. Re: Help Please with Simplesat (Thomas Doyle)
3. For Sale - Kenwood TM-455 70cm All-Mode (Mike Sprenger)
4. Re: Circular Antennas (Robert Bruninga)
5. For Sale Yaesu FT-847 Satellite Rig (Mike Sprenger)
6. Logging and Recording Passes (Gerald Payton)
7. Re: Logging and Recording Passes (Bob- W7LRD)
8. Re: Circular Antennas (Dino Papas)
9. Re: Help Please with Simplesat (Joe)
10. Re: [Starcom-bb] VE2BMC & MORE! (Lee Ernstrom)
11. Re: Logging and Recording Passes (B J)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 09:19:26 +0100
From: "Jim Heck G3WGM" <jimlist@xxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube
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i Folks,
Due to an operator error at the Ground Station, the satellite was NOT put
into full time transponder mode as reported last night. I apologise.
It IS now in full time transponder mode (Commanded on the last pass over
Europe).
Again apologies for any concerns caused. (Note to self - more speed less
haste!)
73s Jim G3WGM
-----Original Message-----
From: Jim Heck G3WGM
Sent: Friday, August 12, 2016 9:36 PM
To: AMSAT BB
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-73/FUNcube
Hi Folks
I have just switched AO-73/FUNcube into full time transponder mode (Amateur
Mode).
As normal, plan to switch back to education mode on Sunday PM UTC
Have FUN!
73s Jim G3WGM
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 11:07:05 -0500
From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>, amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help Please with Simplesat
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?Hi,
"Tom is on this list."
I have been a bit under the weather so have not been checking the list.
---------------------------------------
"AMSAT keps were available by default in the previous version. I'm not
sure why he took it out."
As you know the maintenance of the AMSAT keps has been a bit hit and miss
over time. Even when satellites had "crashed" they were often still on the
list. The CelesTrak list had been much more reliable and up to date over
the long run.
-----------------------------------------
" With NO-84 and AO-85, and the possibility of
similar situations in the future, we need to make sure that satellite
tracking program developers always include AMSAT keps as an option.
Too many are locked to CelesTrak which does not and cannot include
satellites launched on classified missions."
You might also want to set and enforce standards for handling the upcoming
problem with the fundamental nature of TLE data structure. I am sure you
know that line 1 column 19 and 20 define the epoch year. This leaves only
two digits for the year. The temporary fix they have put in will have an
interesting problem in the future. Many tracking programs are also "locked"
into the current standard and will most likely have problems when the magic
date rolls around. I am sure you know the magic date is actually not that
far away (as you know it is not 3000). Perhaps some sort of check list and
enforcement team could be set up to keep the developers in line.
-----------------------------------------
73 W9KE Tom Doyle
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Tom is on this list.
>
> Edit the SatLookDown1_28\SimpleSatData\SatData\WebDataSources.txt file
> and add the following line:
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt, AMSAT.txt
>
> Then restart the program and click web update. AMSAT keps should then
> be available for selection.
>
> AMSAT keps were available by default in the previous version. I'm not
> sure why he took it out. With NO-84 and AO-85, and the possibility of
> similar situations in the future, we need to make sure that satellite
> tracking program developers always include AMSAT keps as an option.
> Too many are locked to CelesTrak which does not and cannot include
> satellites launched on classified missions.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> > This program seems really interesting, but I can not get it to load all
> the
> > birds,
> >
> > http://www.tomdoyle.org/SimpleSatLookDown/SimpleSatLookDown.html
> >
> > Like NO-84 etc.
> >
> > I find it amazing that a person that makes a program, has zero way to
> > contact the person. Granted it IS a free program so I can't complain,
> it is
> > just UG all I can see is the Celestrak info and that list does not
> include
> > NO-84
> >
> > Anyone Help?
> >
> > Joe WB9SBD
> > --
> > Sig
> > The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> > Idle Tyme
> > Idle-Tyme.com
> > http://www.idle-tyme.com
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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--
Sent from my computer.
tom ...
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:25:40 -0400
From: Mike Sprenger <mikesprenger@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] For Sale - Kenwood TM-455 70cm All-Mode
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Hi,
Cleaning out some things, would rather see a fellow amsat-er enjoy this
radio on the Satellites
I have a Kenwood TM-455 which is an all mode (FM/CW/SSB) 5/35w 70cm Rig.
I've used it since around the RS- series days and the AO-13 days. This
radio tunes around nicely like an HF rig.
Asking $350 plus shipping to your QTH. I have the original box for this
radio. There's a bit of wear on the top, looks nice, but its not museum
quality, but it surewill get you on the air if you like working the
satellites.
No Paypal - Cashiers Check or Money Order, then I'm glad to ship. The
Radio Works - Selling As-Is because I'm not interested in being scammed and
have someone send me a carcass back....expecting a refund, sorry I even
have to say that... For serious enquiries, I'm more than willing to
provide pictures. (I don't think pictures go through the amsat-bb, I can
send pictures direct)
Here's the manual and info with a stock picture:
http://www.rigpix.com/kenwood/tm255-455ae_manual.pdf
http://www.rigpix.com/kenwood/tm455e.htm
73
Mike
W4UOO
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:49:56 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: Dave Mann <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Circular Antennas
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Noting wrong with "circulars". Whats wrong is expecting to hear a weak
signal on the horizon using no gain.
Eggbeaters are great antennas that give good circular polarization at all
elevation angles to cover the whole sky and are great for non-tracking
ground stations listening to strong signals from space (the ISS for
example). But by definition, you cannot hear "all of space above the
horizon" without giving up gain everywhere.
Space tracking satellites is not homogeneous. You need TEN times the gain
down near the horizon compared to overhead. Any antenna designed to hear
everywhere upwards equally is going to be ten times worse on the horizon
where it needs gain the most. And satellites spend more than 70% of their
time below something like 22 degrees.
Please see: http://aprs.org/LEO-tracking.html
Bob, WB4APR
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Dave Mann <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> My experience with the M2 eggbeaters left something to be desired. The
> 70cm antenna was deaf without a gasfet preamp. I use the 2m one as my
> local repeater and simplex antenna now.
>
> I've read other comments here about limitations, but I'm still not
> convinced circulars are a bad thing.
>
> That's about all the advice I can render.
>
> 73
> Dave
> N4CVX
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Aug 12, 2016, at 13:40, Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > Trying to get back into satellite radio from the early 2000s, I wonder
> what happened to circular helical antennas. Are they out of fashion now?
> >
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Jerry AB5R
> >
> > EM12kh
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 12:53:34 -0400
From: Mike Sprenger <mikesprenger@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] For Sale Yaesu FT-847 Satellite Rig
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Hi,
Cleaning out some things, would rather see a fellow amsat-er enjoy this
radio on the Satellites
I have a Yaesu FT-847 which is an all mode (FM/CW/SSB) HF through 70cm
(less 220) Rig. Its not had a lot of use since I got it, which means its
got little wear.
Asking $950 plus shipping to your QTH. I have the original box for this
radio. There's a scratch on the top next to the speaker, but even so, it
looks nice, given this, its not museum quality, but it sure will get you on
the air if you like working the satellites and look nice in your station.
Also, it has RS-232 and is a late enough model that the RS-232 is
bi-directional, which means it works fine with SatPC32, where for instance,
you tune the receive dial on the radio, and SATPC then reads the downlink,
calculates doppler, then sets the uplink for you. Works nicely, with 100w
on 6m and HF (plus Mode A on AO-7 = uplink on 2m down on 10M) and will
power mast mount preamps on 2m/70cm via the coax.
No Paypal - Cashiers Check or Money Order, then I'm glad to ship. The
Radio Works - Selling As-Is because I'm not interested in being scammed and
have someone send me a carcass back....expecting a refund, sorry I even
have to say that... For serious enquiries, I'm more than willing to
provide pictures. (I don't think pictures go through the amsat-bb, I can
send pictures direct)
Here's the info from Yaesu's website about the radio:
http://www.yaesu.com/indexVS.cfm?cmd=DisplayProducts&ProdCatID=102&encProdID=1
F9F41E47B926F9590C43C638C5EFD00
73
Mike
W4UOO
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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 17:33:33 +0000
From: Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging and Recording Passes
Message-ID:
<BN3PR1101MB1220BC3D3B720DEA634BAD11D0100@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxxxxx
x.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
In studying videos on the internet and reading emails on the BB, I have
noticed a frequent mention of "recording" passes, and eventually "uploading
to LoTW."
My questions are: What is the most common used way of audio recording: a
digital handheld recorder or computer software of some kind? I will have a
stationary station; not portable handheld.
Is it common to keep a personal log and then upload it to LoTW? If so, what
personal log program is commonly used?
I normally do not use a logging program and certainly not familiar with
LoTW. I looked at it on the ARRL website and it looked complicated. I
really do not understand the process
I listened to a AO-85 pass with my IC-2730A and a Comet GP-6 dual band base
antenna, without any preamp, and was very good copy considering. That was
encouraging.
Any help will be appreciated .
73,
Jerry AB5R
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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 17:53:15 +0000 (UTC)
From: Bob- W7LRD <w7lrd@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Logging and Recording Passes
Message-ID:
<1472872739.58205465.1471110795815.JavaMail.zimbra@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
forward this information on the bb - I can use it
73 Bob W7LRD
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gerald Payton" <gp_ab5r@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Amsat BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2016 10:33:33 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Logging and Recording Passes
In studying videos on the internet and reading emails on the BB, I have
noticed a frequent mention of "recording" passes, and eventually "uploading
to LoTW."
My questions are: What is the most common used way of audio recording: a
digital handheld recorder or computer software of some kind? I will have a
stationary station; not portable handheld.
Is it common to keep a personal log and then upload it to LoTW? If so, what
personal log program is commonly used?
I normally do not use a logging program and certainly not familiar with
LoTW. I looked at it on the ARRL website and it looked complicated. I really
do not understand the process
I listened to a AO-85 pass with my IC-2730A and a Comet GP-6 dual band base
antenna, without any preamp, and was very good copy considering. That was
encouraging.
Any help will be appreciated .
73,
Jerry AB5R
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 14:07:28 -0400
From: Dino Papas <kl0s@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Circular Antennas
Message-ID: <376D34C5-01C0-4595-83E8-8256BA48689E@xxx.xxx>
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We used the M2 eggbeaters as our back up ARISS antenna system; because of a
technical issue at the last minute we actually ended up doing the ISS QSO on
the eggbeaters vs. the tracking yagi with polarization switching, phew!
With 600 some odd kids sitting behind us when the astronaut answered we were
pretty relieved. Probably knocked a minute or so off the Q&A period but the
audience never knew the difference. Talk about sweating bullets for a few
moments!
73 - Dino KL0S
> On Aug132016, at 1249 PM, Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Noting wrong with "circulars". Whats wrong is expecting to hear a weak
> signal on the horizon using no gain.
>
> Eggbeaters are great antennas that give good circular polarization at all
> elevation angles to cover the whole sky and are great for non-tracking
> ground stations listening to strong signals from space (the ISS for
> example). But by definition, you cannot hear "all of space above the
> horizon" without giving up gain everywhere.
>
> Space tracking satellites is not homogeneous. You need TEN times the gain
> down near the horizon compared to overhead. Any antenna designed to hear
> everywhere upwards equally is going to be ten times worse on the horizon
> where it needs gain the most. And satellites spend more than 70% of their
> time below something like 22 degrees.
>
> Please see: http://aprs.org/LEO-tracking.html
>
> Bob, WB4APR
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 5:14 PM, Dave Mann <cwo4mann@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> My experience with the M2 eggbeaters left something to be desired. The
>> 70cm antenna was deaf without a gasfet preamp. I use the 2m one as my
>> local repeater and simplex antenna now.
>>
>> I've read other comments here about limitations, but I'm still not
>> convinced circulars are a bad thing.
>>
>> That's about all the advice I can render.
>>
>> 73
>> Dave
>> N4CVX
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>>> On Aug 12, 2016, at 13:40, Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Trying to get back into satellite radio from the early 2000s, I wonder
>> what happened to circular helical antennas. Are they out of fashion now?
>>>
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Jerry AB5R
>>>
>>> EM12kh
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 13:17:13 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Help Please with Simplesat
Message-ID: <005dfdf1-da9c-c6cc-c467-8acd2289af44@xxx.xxx>
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I got it working, Thanks All!!
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/13/2016 11:07 AM, Thomas Doyle wrote:
> ?Hi,
>
> "Tom is on this list."
>
> I have been a bit under the weather so have not been checking the list.
> ---------------------------------------
>
> "AMSAT keps were available by default in the previous version. I'm not
> sure why he took it out."
>
> As you know the maintenance of the AMSAT keps has been a bit hit and miss
> over time. Even when satellites had "crashed" they were often still on the
> list. The CelesTrak list had been much more reliable and up to date over
> the long run.
> -----------------------------------------
>
> " With NO-84 and AO-85, and the possibility of
> similar situations in the future, we need to make sure that satellite
> tracking program developers always include AMSAT keps as an option.
> Too many are locked to CelesTrak which does not and cannot include
> satellites launched on classified missions."
>
> You might also want to set and enforce standards for handling the upcoming
> problem with the fundamental nature of TLE data structure. I am sure you
> know that line 1 column 19 and 20 define the epoch year. This leaves only
> two digits for the year. The temporary fix they have put in will have an
> interesting problem in the future. Many tracking programs are also "locked"
> into the current standard and will most likely have problems when the magic
> date rolls around. I am sure you know the magic date is actually not that
> far away (as you know it is not 3000). Perhaps some sort of check list and
> enforcement team could be set up to keep the developers in line.
> -----------------------------------------
>
> 73 W9KE Tom Doyle
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:15 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Tom is on this list.
>>
>> Edit the SatLookDown1_28\SimpleSatData\SatData\WebDataSources.txt file
>> and add the following line:
>>
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt, AMSAT.txt
>>
>> Then restart the program and click web update. AMSAT keps should then
>> be available for selection.
>>
>> AMSAT keps were available by default in the previous version. I'm not
>> sure why he took it out. With NO-84 and AO-85, and the possibility of
>> similar situations in the future, we need to make sure that satellite
>> tracking program developers always include AMSAT keps as an option.
>> Too many are locked to CelesTrak which does not and cannot include
>> satellites launched on classified missions.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 10:54 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> This program seems really interesting, but I can not get it to load all
>> the
>>> birds,
>>>
>>> http://www.tomdoyle.org/SimpleSatLookDown/SimpleSatLookDown.html
>>>
>>> Like NO-84 etc.
>>>
>>> I find it amazing that a person that makes a program, has zero way to
>>> contact the person. Granted it IS a free program so I can't complain,
>> it is
>>> just UG all I can see is the Celestrak info and that list does not
>> include
>>> NO-84
>>>
>>> Anyone Help?
>>>
>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>> --
>>> Sig
>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>> Idle Tyme
>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
>
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 14:20:46 -0600
From: Lee Ernstrom <lee.ernstrom@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: K4FEG <k4feg@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] [Starcom-bb] VE2BMC & MORE!
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Jimmy, you would be extremely popular working meteor scatter -- reflecting
your signal off the ionized trail of a burning meteor. Also, the target is
much easier to hit than a satellite as a passive reflector. Check out
pingjockey.
Doc, WA7HQD
On Aug 13, 2016 6:18 AM, "K4FEG" <k4feg@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hello All:
>
> below you will see the body of an email from *Jimmy, VE2BMC/KK6FAH*,
> about his recent operations on SO-50 from his location in Canada. Jimmy is
> an EME operator who through some encouragement fro W2HRO, decided to try
> some satellite passes while back in Canada, with Jimmy's permission here is
> the email:
>
> *"Hi Frank,*
>
> *I hope all I well! Actually, thanks to YOU for all your help and for
> passing on the message to the community. Ironically, since I am new with
> Satellite communications and have not been following the
> corresponding mailing lists, etc., I really had no clue that so many people
> would have an interest in trying to contact me in these grids. I
> had brought my HT and Arrow antenna with me with the hope of making "one"
> contact with my EME friend W2HRO and perhaps a few other QSO's if lucky as
> time permits. What unfolded was completely unexpected and on top of that, I
> got infected by the virus! Now I have 2 viruses to manage (EME and Sat).
> That won't make my wife happy... Hi Hi*
>
> *Since all my relatives are all living in VE2 territory and they are
> located at the edged where the grids meet (FN38, FN48 and FN37), at my next
> trip I will be able to activate FN37 easily (only 25 minutes south from my
> father near "Lac Bouchette"), spend more time in FN48 where my mother
> lives, and even more time in FN38 where my brother lives. Should be much
> fun. *
>
> *On a related note, as I am specialized in EME communications and after my
> recent experience in VE2 territory with Satellite, the thought came to
> me that since it is possible to do 2-way communications by bouncing RF off
> the surface of the Moon, it should be possible and much easier to use
> satellites as "passive reflector" (just like the moon) in order to make
> QSO's. The obvious advantage is that this would not require for the
> satellite to have any repeater or transponder on them, but their simple
> presence in the sky is sufficient. *
>
> *This communication scheme would open a tremendous amount of possibilities
> for Amateur QSO's. Have you ever heard of any people attempting this? I
> have recently read a few articles on the matter on the net indicating that
> it was possible and some had gotten clear signals using space stations (ISS
> and MIR) as reflectors, but there does not seem to be any organized group
> of people that have attempted this in an organized way to make QSO's.*
>
> *I am certainly interested in investigating this further and try. May be
> some in the mailing list would have inputs or experiences to share on the
> matter. Again, I have been able to make EME QSO's with very small stations
> relatively speaking (~8000 watts EIRP) so satellite reflection should be
> much easier and accessible to relatively small stations.*
>
> *Thanks and I look forward to hearing from you soon,*
>
> *73, Jimmy*
>
>
> *KK6FAH" *If anyone has thoughts about some of Jimmy's interesting ideas
> about "passive" satellite operations I think it would be a great discussion.
>
> I want to say a special thanks to Canada for all of the great "Canadien
> DX" operations & for the hospitality provided to the "American Invasion" of
> operators who have been active over the last two weeks.
> *VE2BMC, Jimmy*: FN38 & FN48 operations (rare grids)
> *N9IP/VE/VY/VO1&2*: GN38/GN19/GN18/GN07/GN08/GN09/
> GO10/GO11/GO21/FN96/FN86/FN75/FN76
> *(I MAY HAVE MISSED SOME) **NJ7H/FP/VO1/VY2: *GN16/GN17/GN27/GN37/FN86
>
> *(I have probably missed some of Gabe's grids as well, I gotta sleep
> sometime!) *And we now have *Ron, N8RO* out on his trip to Western
> Canada, Ron has already been on the satellites during this trip, A reminder
> that Ron is traveling from "point-to-point" he is not pulling a travel
> trailer, so he has less opportunity for deviations during this trip. LISTEN
> LISTEN LISTEN!!
>
> Lately it has been a good time to be on the satellites, DX, new operators,
> aeronautical grid hopping, camping "rovers" & much, much more!!
> EXCITING TIMES!
> And one more thing: There is MUCH MORE to come this year!!
>
> I hope all are enjoying the satellites.
> *Good Luck All & Good SatDX!!*
> *73*
> *K4FEG*
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 13 Aug 2016 20:25:33 +0000
From: B J <va6bmj@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Logging and Recording Passes
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On 8/13/16, Gerald Payton <gp_ab5r@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> In studying videos on the internet and reading emails on the BB, I have
> noticed a frequent mention of "recording" passes, and eventually "uploading
> to LoTW."
>
>
> My questions are: What is the most common used way of audio recording: a
> digital handheld recorder or computer software of some kind? I will have a
> stationary station; not portable handheld.
Since I use a boom mike headset for my main satellite radio, I plug a
splitter into the audio output. One branch is connected to my
headphones and the other one to a portable digital audio recorder
using a patch cord and a stereo-to-mono adaptor. Before I start
recording, I make sure to mention what the time is so that I can note
it in my log when I play it back later on.
I usually have a spare set of batteries on hand, just in case.
I started doing that early on after I was the centre of attention for
a satellite pile-up and I couldn't jot down all the necessary details
fast enough. I'm sure I missed a few good contacts because of that.
>
>
> Is it common to keep a personal log and then upload it to LoTW? If so, what
> personal log program is commonly used?
<snip>
I created a database and keep all my contact information there.
Whenever I'm ready to submit something to LOTW, I take a few minutes
to edit it and create the files I need.
73s
Bernhard VA6BMJ @ DO33FL
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