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Today's Topics:

   1. CY9C upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC (25-Aug) (Clayton Coleman)
   2. CY9C on FM Satellites (Paul Stoetzer)
   3. CY9C Dupes (Paul Stoetzer)
   4. Re: CY9C Dupes (Paul Stoetzer)
   5. Re: CY9C Dupes (Clayton W5PFG)
   6. Re: CY9C Dupes (ryan woods)
   7. Re: CY9C Dupes (Paul Stoetzer)
   8. Re: CY9C upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC (25-Aug) (Daryl Young)
   9. Re: CY9C Dupes (Joe)
  10. Re: CY9C Dupes (Tucker McGuire)
  11. Re: CY9C upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC (25-Aug) (Alan)
  12. Re: CY9C Dupes (Clayton W5PFG)
  13. Re: CY9C now active on satellites (Bob)
  14. CY9C satellite passes next 24 hours (Clayton Coleman)
  15. ESA European Citizens' Debate (andy thomas)


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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:13:38 -0500
From: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC (25-Aug)
Message-ID:
<CAPovOwfGaUhBQYUoCiwJmLASP=b++TR-u+amZm=kTybZxs3OQQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Look for CY9C on the upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC today (25-Aug)

73
Clayton
W5PFG


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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:21:17 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C on FM Satellites
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOoEsnj_=8_ySjynerTWvJ=RXsyXogEgawFRtYo0xkBqPw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

CY9C plans to work several FM passes over the next couple of days. As
FM is a limited resource, please do not call if you are already in the
log on another satellite.

Please also refrain from making other QSOs while CY9C remains in the
footprint. They are only there for a few more days. It's been 18 years
since CY9 has been on satellite, other QSOs can wait a few days. Even
if it sounds like they have worked everyone on a pass, another station
may be about to enter the footprint with a very short window to work
them.

73,

Paul, N8HM


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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:33:37 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOrroCCK4Xbm0+dKRR9bsgtDjcU9Z2LZO2M3KP0S0a9cEw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four
times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the
opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of
coverage.

DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain
from working them more than once!

73,

Paul, N8HM


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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:36:45 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOp6PajvcMLdqzqDdX9G1tcb_T=+JyHpb84sVsAsyxp4bg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

At some point, naming names is required:

K4FEG is now on his third QSO for the pass, and fifth overall on FO-29.

Such selfishness is a poor reflection on a person's character.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four
> times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the
> opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of
> coverage.
>
> DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain
> from working them more than once!
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM


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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:44:45 -0500
From: Clayton W5PFG <w5pfg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes
Message-ID: <d14a06bf-56e2-328a-1b5e-8a6489a04559@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

A lot of stations were heard making good contacts.  I uploaded my
recording to SoundCloud:

https://soundcloud.com/w5pfg/cy9c-dxpedition-st-paul-island

They're going to focus on some cross-continent passes and into Europe.

Good luck.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On 8/25/2016 11:33, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four
> times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the
> opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of
> coverage.
>
> DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain
> from working them more than once!
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:44:47 -0400
From: ryan woods <firefighterryan37@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes
Message-ID:
<CAAUg=NRv7RJr9zc48HHi4DNW2HWTw=mFeF239fp_WMsWJxrBNA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

You know I don't work every pass every day but it didn't take me long to
figure out who you was talking about!

Ryan
KD8ATF

On Aug 25, 2016 12:36 PM, "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

> At some point, naming names is required:
>
> K4FEG is now on his third QSO for the pass, and fifth overall on FO-29.
>
> Such selfishness is a poor reflection on a person's character.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four
> > times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the
> > opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of
> > coverage.
> >
> > DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain
> > from working them more than once!
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Paul, N8HM
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:47:55 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: ryan woods <firefighterryan37@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOphDN0m=dKAV1ovf1Ui+LRfAPjz7iuApz=Cxzo+OBDQ0A@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

It's common behavior from the self-proclaimed "grid commander."

His little group has a couple of followers, but I would hope that
those that do take a look at this type of behavior. Situations like
this show a person's character.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:44 PM, ryan woods
<firefighterryan37@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> You know I don't work every pass every day but it didn't take me long to
> figure out who you was talking about!
>
> Ryan
> KD8ATF
>
>
> On Aug 25, 2016 12:36 PM, "Paul Stoetzer" <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> At some point, naming names is required:
>>
>> K4FEG is now on his third QSO for the pass, and fifth overall on FO-29.
>>
>> Such selfishness is a poor reflection on a person's character.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> > One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four
>> > times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the
>> > opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of
>> > coverage.
>> >
>> > DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain
>> > from working them more than once!
>> >
>> > 73,
>> >
>> > Paul, N8HM
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:47:34 -0400
From: Daryl Young <k4rgk@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC (25-Aug)
Message-ID: <21dc5cf7-a7ce-c235-fce6-5bc9136df32b@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

I made my first contact with CY9C just now on FO-29.  He had a pileup at
his AOS and was available (lonely) at my LOS.  Great operator.

Thanks for the heads up!

*Daryl
K4RGK

*
On 8/25/2016 12:13 PM, Clayton Coleman wrote:
> Look for CY9C on the upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC today (25-Aug)
>
> 73
> Clayton
> W5PFG
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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>
>



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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 11:54:33 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes
Message-ID: <cb1388f5-7f43-4735-7785-cfe164384441@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

the expedition should keep track of dupes, in situations like this, and
if discoverd all qso's from the offending station should be deleted from
the logs.

Just my opinion.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 8/25/2016 11:36 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
> At some point, naming names is required:
>
> K4FEG is now on his third QSO for the pass, and fifth overall on FO-29.
>
> Such selfishness is a poor reflection on a person's character.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four
>> times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the
>> opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of
>> coverage.
>>
>> DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain
>> from working them more than once!
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
>



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Message: 10
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:57:52 -0400
From: Tucker McGuire <tucker@xxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes
Message-ID:
<CA+gmQJR3dqa=FOWPoUf8NTOwOgRpTPUYPUoojnngoHT7ms2h1A@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I agree with Joe. "Blacklisting" operators who find it necessary to dupe DX
over and over is becoming more common practice for DXpeditions now. Good
idea in my book.

73,
Tucker
W4FS

On Aug 25, 2016 12:55 PM, "Joe" <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> the expedition should keep track of dupes, in situations like this, and if
> discoverd all qso's from the offending station should be deleted from the
> logs.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> On 8/25/2016 11:36 AM, Paul Stoetzer wrote:
>
>> At some point, naming names is required:
>>
>> K4FEG is now on his third QSO for the pass, and fifth overall on FO-29.
>>
>> Such selfishness is a poor reflection on a person's character.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 12:33 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> One well-known satellite operator has now been heard working them four
>>> times over two FO-29 passes. This is not necessary and reduces the
>>> opportunity for others to work them, especially those on the fringe of
>>> coverage.
>>>
>>> DXpedition operators frown upon excessive dupes. Let's try to refrain
>>> from working them more than once!
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Paul, N8HM
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>>
>>
>>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:11:11 -0500
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC (25-Aug)
Message-ID: <000101d1fef3$ae622270$0b266750$@xxxxx.xxx>

Daryl,

Absolutely first class operation.  They also did a great job of patching
together equipment to get an
excellent station on the air.  Even used Full Doppler Tracking!

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA


<-----Original Message-----
<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Daryl Young
<Sent: Thursday, August 25, 2016 11:48 AM
<To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC (25-Aug)
<
<I made my first contact with CY9C just now on FO-29.  He had a pileup at
<his AOS and was available (lonely) at my LOS.  Great operator.
<
<Thanks for the heads up!
<
<*Daryl
<K4RGK
<
<*
<On 8/25/2016 12:13 PM, Clayton Coleman wrote:
<> Look for CY9C on the upcoming FO-29 at 16:25 UTC today (25-Aug)
<>
<> 73
<> Clayton
<> W5PFG
<> _______________________________________________
<> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
<> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
<> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
<> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
<> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<>
<>
<
<_______________________________________________
<Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
<to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
<are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
<Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
<Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb




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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:20:09 -0500
From: Clayton W5PFG <w5pfg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C Dupes
Message-ID: <7ebca028-f7ad-2c08-6244-d8bfe9a4b318@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

It's a touchy subject. Sometimes there are legit reasons such as when
the DX didn't log the call correctly. For example, N4UFO had tried in
the middle of the night but they reported his call as as U4, not N4.
Ultimately it is the DX that sets the rules for their op.

The main reason, in my opinion, to avoid "insurance calls" (dupes) is so
that you don't jeopardize someone's chance to make contact with a narrow
window.  I cannot tell you how many times I have tried to work UT1FG/MM
in the middle of the night with a 2 minute window, only to have other
stations jabbering with him because they assume nobody else is in the
footprint.

It is hard to put ourselves in others' shoes. A little grace doesn't
hurt. Some time we might need it ourselves. I know that I do!

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On 8/25/2016 11:54, Joe wrote:
> the expedition should keep track of dupes, in situations like this, and
> if discoverd all qso's from the offending station should be deleted from
> the logs.
>
> Just my opinion.
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com


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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 13:30:31 -0400
From: Bob <WB4SON@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] CY9C now active on satellites
Message-ID:
<CAPonRZ81-UaGC0m_TojxZj=UxOtFAqwQfpWHjAokpMPmqVcdKA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Any idea what birds they are working?

No more FO-29 passes until the wee hours of the morning here in New England
(same for SO-50).

I'll certainly try late tonight/early tomorrow (Friday UTC).

73, Bob, WB4SON

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 1:42 AM, Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Clayton,
>
> Have they annouced time and date windows they plan to be on?
>
> 73s,
>
> Alan
> WA4SCA
>
>
> <-----Original Message-----
> <From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Clayton
> Coleman
> <Sent: Wednesday, August 24, 2016 11:47 PM
> <To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> <Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C now active on satellites
> <
> <It was nice to hear a good crowd on FO-29 tonight (25-Aug) working
> <CY9C on FO-29 around 0430 UTC.  A few were able to work them on the
> <previous orbit.
> <
> <Lots of good signals and some seldom-heard calls on the ole bird.
> <
> <73
> <Clayton
> <W5PFG
> <_______________________________________________
> <Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> <to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> <are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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>
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 12:49:00 -0500
From: Clayton Coleman <kayakfishtx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] CY9C satellite passes next 24 hours
Message-ID:
<CAPovOwfMwMQnMNJ0-xU14ApK4GZjqJZtZf0Bd6POXD7BFabgNw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

CY9C satellite passes for next 24 hours.  They make work others as available.
Asterisks * indicates a prioritized pass for best geographical coverage.

All dates/times are UTC

 25.08.2016  AO-85   16:51-17:02
 25.08.2016  AO-07   17:15-17:34
 25.08.2016  AO-85   18:32-18:42
 25.08.2016  AO-07   19:06-19:27
 25.08.2016  XW-2C   20:28-20:37    *
 25.08.2016  AO-07   21:04-21:19    *
 25.08.2016  XW-2C   22:02-22:11
 25.08.2016  XW-2F   22:16-22:25
 25.08.2016  XW-2A   23:38-23:44    *
 26.08.2016  FO-29   01:46-01:52    *
 26.08.2016  SO-50   03:10-03:21
 26.08.2016  FO-29   03:28-03:45    *
 26.08.2016  SO-50   04:50-05:02    *
 26.08.2016  FO-29   05:13-05:30
 26.08.2016  SO-50   06:33-06:42    *
 26.08.2016  FO-29   06:59-07:11    *

73
Clayton
W5PFG


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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 19:34:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: andy thomas <andythomasmail@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: Amsat Bulitin Board <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ESA European Citizens' Debate
Message-ID:
<1502141062.1776499.1472153667199.JavaMail.yahoo@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

ESA has asked me to relay this information:
I registered for the Citizens? debate on Space for Europe. It is organised
in ? (your city) and in 21 other European countries on September 10. Join me.
Participate to the debate and you will contribute to the future of space for
Europe, together with 99 other citizens in your country. You will be sitting
at a table with 5 to 7 other citizens
?Attendance at the citizen consultation is free and lunch is included.
Enrolment however is necessary and you are invited to register online on the
website www.citizensdebate.space
?The list of the countries and cities where a debate is organised (link to
the video teaser in the proper language on each country):

Austria ? Vienna www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fI12l0RVVg
Belgium ? Brussels https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtxJzIQMmNk
Czech Republic ? Praha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pd-hdr0wglQ
Denmark ? Odense https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m02rIXYroFM
Estonia - Tallinn & Tartu https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c4g6Py8KCfo
Finland ? Helsinki https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LX6FAIA6y9Q
France ? Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7DkUUCS0IA
Germany ? Darmstadt www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fI12l0RVVg
Greece ? Athens https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6lCJIebDro
Hungary ? Budapest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdfdr-NYAc4
Ireland ? Cork https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1twDM8Vpl20
Italy ? Roma https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wl9vcX2ESYg
Luxemburg ? Luxembourg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gvd35SN_XBc
The Netherlands ? Noordwijk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5ibNtfS91i0
Norway ? Oslo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2NHZgu03Zw
Poland - Rzeszow https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8sZFTUctEIQ
Portugal? - Lisbon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gycuM84YHBo
Romania ? Bucharest https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNidEv9JfcE
Spain ? Madrid https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gs6tY1lCUsQ
Sweden ? G?teborg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DOx7Kawq4Yc
Switzerland ? Lucerne https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euCEZDxoEYs
The United Kingdom ? Edinburgh 10 September 2016: Citizens' Debate on Space
for Europe in 22 ESA Member States

73 de andy G0SFJ


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