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Today's Topics:
1. Re: ISS ping box (sean fay)
2. Re: ISS ping box (John)
3. Re: ISS ping box (now PBBS) (Robert Bruninga)
4. Re: ISS ping box (skristof@xxxxxxx.xxxx
5. Re: ISS ping box (sean fay)
6. Re: ISS ping box (now PBBS) (Clayton W5PFG)
7. Re: ISS ping box (Tom Karickhoff)
8. Re: ISS ping box (now PBBS) (John Becker)
9. Re: ISS ping box (now PBBS) (Greg D)
10. Multiple grids in N3FJP (Matthew Stevens)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 12:52:19 -0500
From: sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
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Since we are on the subject of pinging, I am at my keyboard trying to make
a qso. How often should I send my beacon in order to alert people to me
that I am looking for QSO
My Beacon says "AHOY FROM EM29 PSE MSG ME" to indicate i am a real person
there to message
Once a minute? shorter? longer?
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:06 PM, <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> "To see if I can make it" is fine. But once you see that you have made
> it, why not leave some air time for other folks?
>
> Why would a person keep transmitting once the person has accomplished
> his/her purpose?
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
> On 2016-09-22 12:57, Andrew Rich wrote:
>
> > To see if I can make it
> >
> > Why go to the moon ?
> >
> > -----------------------------
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > Andrew Rich
> > e vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> > w www.tech-software.net [1]
> > m 0419 738 223
> >
> > On 23 Sep 2016, at 02:49, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of
> transmitting at all?
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Paul, N8HM
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
> > Guys
> >
> > Thats why it is a ping box
> >
> > It waits to hear the space station first and then just does what I would
> do anyway - send once a minute
> >
> > Its all good
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > w www.tech-software.net [1]
> > m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> >
> > On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:25 AM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > Like my self! Running a precious little 5W HT with an arrow in my front
> > yard!
> >
> > I've been digipeated, I have sent messages to people with no response ,
> I
> > have had messages sent to me, but i have not been able to respond, but I
> am
> > still waiting for a confirmed QSO. I am Hoping this weekend hold passes
> on
> > ISS and NO84 me. If you see me look for me ! and shoot me a message.
> >
> > AA0AN
> > Sean
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
> >
> > There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
> >
> > No issues with traffic
> >
> > The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up
> > potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the
> ISS.
> > Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be trying
> to
> > make that elusive contact.
> >
> > --- Zach
> > N0ZGO
> >
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 12:42:46 -0500
From: John <w1xq@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
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I too run a Arrow with 5 watts. Interested in making a QSO.
Sent from my iPad
> On Sep 22, 2016, at 12:06 PM, skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx wrote:
>
> "To see if I can make it" is fine. But once you see that you have made
> it, why not leave some air time for other folks?
>
> Why would a person keep transmitting once the person has accomplished
> his/her purpose?
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
>> On 2016-09-22 12:57, Andrew Rich wrote:
>>
>> To see if I can make it
>>
>> Why go to the moon ?
>>
>> -----------------------------
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> Andrew Rich
>> e vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
>> w www.tech-software.net [1]
>> m 0419 738 223
>>
>> On 23 Sep 2016, at 02:49, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of
transmitting at all?
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
>> Guys
>>
>> Thats why it is a ping box
>>
>> It waits to hear the space station first and then just does what I would
do anyway - send once a minute
>>
>> Its all good
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> w www.tech-software.net [1]
>> m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
>>
>> On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:25 AM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Like my self! Running a precious little 5W HT with an arrow in my front
>> yard!
>>
>> I've been digipeated, I have sent messages to people with no response , I
>> have had messages sent to me, but i have not been able to respond, but I am
>> still waiting for a confirmed QSO. I am Hoping this weekend hold passes on
>> ISS and NO84 me. If you see me look for me ! and shoot me a message.
>>
>> AA0AN
>> Sean
>>
>> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
>>
>> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
>>
>> No issues with traffic
>>
>> The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up
>> potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the ISS.
>> Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be trying to
>> make that elusive contact.
>>
>> --- Zach
>> N0ZGO
>>
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:11:01 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBBS)
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> Andrew, What you should be doing is try using the onboard packet BBS.
WHAT?!!! NO!!!
Packet BBS operation via space was proved to be entirely inoperable,
impossible total congestion,, inefficient, impractical, wasteful and
discunctional use of packet via satllites 20 years ago. That is why all
operation now uses single packet exchanges using UNPROTO or UI packets and
why UI messaging was invented.
All it takes is one person to try to log on, and then the ENTIRE PASS is
lost to retries and retries and retries. Nothing is accomplished, and
rarely if ever does anyone even get logged on. It is an abomination to
even think about using the ISS BBS.
> That way people could read and send you messages.
> As you're in a low use ISS area this would be ideal for
> you and other ISS users...
Oops... nevermind... I see you are on an island thousands of miles from
any Ham Radio density...
But again, this will ONLY work over Hawaii, or Australia, or South Africa
or other areas where packet ISS usage is so low as to be non-existant. In
those places, yes, it would be a fun experiment. BUT ONLY UNTIL others
heard about it. Then it would be the same ole' "tradgedy of the
commons"... (google it)... Everybody tries and it fails for everyone....
And a disaster if anyone tried it over the USA or Europe.
Bob, WB4APR
-----Original Message-----
> If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of
transmitting at all?
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:41:20 -0400
From: skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
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I'll generally send a CQ, then wait for three or four packets to be
received to see if anyone is answering. If I don't see any answers in
three to four received packets, I'll send another CQ. I've never timed
it, but I'm guessing that it's more than once a minute.
So, it's fairly frequent, but I'm sitting there paying attention and in
control of when my packets go out. If I don't get any replies after four
or five CQs during the peak of the pass, I'll quit sending to make room
for other folks.
Just my opinion, but I don't feel like the frequency of sending is as
important as the concept of being attentive to and in control of your
transmissions. Transmit, then listen/watch for a reply. Repeat as
appropriate for conditions (amount of traffic) and your station's (and
the Space Station's) capabilities.
Personally, I don't see a reason for an unattended beacon transmission
to the ISS. Probably some folks have come up with a reason. If so,
please share.
Steve AI9IN
On 2016-09-22 13:52, sean fay wrote:
> Since we are on the subject of pinging, I am at my keyboard trying to make
> a qso. How often should I send my beacon in order to alert people to me
> that I am looking for QSO
>
> My Beacon says "AHOY FROM EM29 PSE MSG ME" to indicate i am a real person
> there to message
>
> Once a minute? shorter? longer?
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:06 PM, <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> "To see if I can make it" is fine. But once you see that you have made
> it, why not leave some air time for other folks?
>
> Why would a person keep transmitting once the person has accomplished
> his/her purpose?
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
> On 2016-09-22 12:57, Andrew Rich wrote:
>
> To see if I can make it
>
> Why go to the moon ?
>
> -----------------------------
> Sent from my iPhone
> Andrew Rich
> e vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> w www.tech-software.net [1] [1 [1]]
> m 0419 738 223
>
> On 23 Sep 2016, at 02:49, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of
transmitting at all?
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote: Guys
>
> Thats why it is a ping box
>
> It waits to hear the space station first and then just does what I would
do anyway - send once a minute
> Its all good
>
> Andrew
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net [1] [1 [1]]
> m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
>
> On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:25 AM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Like my self! Running a precious little 5W HT with an arrow in my front
> yard!
>
> I've been digipeated, I have sent messages to people with no response , I
have had messages sent to me, but i have not been able to respond, but I am
still waiting for a confirmed QSO. I am Hoping this weekend hold passes on
ISS and NO84 me. If you see me look for me ! and shoot me a message.
>
> AA0AN
> Sean
>
> On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
>
> There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
>
> No issues with traffic
>
> The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up
> potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the ISS.
Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be trying to
make that elusive contact.
>
> --- Zach
> N0ZGO
>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:33:15 -0500
From: sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
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perfect thank you.
On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 1:41 PM, <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I'll generally send a CQ, then wait for three or four packets to be
> received to see if anyone is answering. If I don't see any answers in
> three to four received packets, I'll send another CQ. I've never timed
> it, but I'm guessing that it's more than once a minute.
>
> So, it's fairly frequent, but I'm sitting there paying attention and in
> control of when my packets go out. If I don't get any replies after four
> or five CQs during the peak of the pass, I'll quit sending to make room
> for other folks.
>
> Just my opinion, but I don't feel like the frequency of sending is as
> important as the concept of being attentive to and in control of your
> transmissions. Transmit, then listen/watch for a reply. Repeat as
> appropriate for conditions (amount of traffic) and your station's (and
> the Space Station's) capabilities.
>
> Personally, I don't see a reason for an unattended beacon transmission
> to the ISS. Probably some folks have come up with a reason. If so,
> please share.
>
> Steve AI9IN
>
> On 2016-09-22 13:52, sean fay wrote:
>
> > Since we are on the subject of pinging, I am at my keyboard trying to
> make
> > a qso. How often should I send my beacon in order to alert people to me
> > that I am looking for QSO
> >
> > My Beacon says "AHOY FROM EM29 PSE MSG ME" to indicate i am a real person
> > there to message
> >
> > Once a minute? shorter? longer?
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:06 PM, <skristof@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > "To see if I can make it" is fine. But once you see that you have made
> > it, why not leave some air time for other folks?
> >
> > Why would a person keep transmitting once the person has accomplished
> > his/her purpose?
> >
> > Steve AI9IN
> >
> > On 2016-09-22 12:57, Andrew Rich wrote:
> >
> > To see if I can make it
> >
> > Why go to the moon ?
> >
> > -----------------------------
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > Andrew Rich
> > e vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> > w www.tech-software.net [1] [1 [1]]
> > m 0419 738 223
> >
> > On 23 Sep 2016, at 02:49, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > If you're the only station out there, then what's the point of
> transmitting at all?
> > 73,
> >
> > Paul, N8HM
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 12:44 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote: Guys
> >
> > Thats why it is a ping box
> >
> > It waits to hear the space station first and then just does what I would
> do anyway - send once a minute
> > Its all good
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > w www.tech-software.net [1] [1 [1]]
> > m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> >
> > On 23 Sep 2016, at 2:25 AM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > Like my self! Running a precious little 5W HT with an arrow in my front
> > yard!
> >
> > I've been digipeated, I have sent messages to people with no response ,
> I have had messages sent to me, but i have not been able to respond, but I
> am still waiting for a confirmed QSO. I am Hoping this weekend hold passes
> on ISS and NO84 me. If you see me look for me ! and shoot me a message.
> >
> > AA0AN
> > Sean
> >
> > On Thu, Sep 22, 2016 at 9:32 AM, Zach Metzinger <zmetzing@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
> > On 09/22/16 05:22, Andrew Rich wrote:
> >
> > There are maybe one to zero stations on ISS here
> >
> > No issues with traffic
> >
> > The point that I think others are trying to make is: Don't use up
> > potential channel time when you're not actively making a QSO with the
> ISS. Someone else, who may be using far less power than you do, may be
> trying to make that elusive contact.
> >
> > --- Zach
> > N0ZGO
> >
> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 6
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 14:40:48 -0500
From: Clayton W5PFG <w5pfg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBBS)
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Sadly, there are people who connect to the packet BBS regularly over the
USA. It jams up the channel with REJ packets from AOS to LOS. Those
people probably don't read anything published here on AMSAT-BB.
73
Clayton
W5PFG
On 9/22/2016 13:11, Robert Bruninga wrote:
> All it takes is one person to try to log on, and then the ENTIRE PASS is
> lost to retries and retries and retries. Nothing is accomplished, and
> rarely if ever does anyone even get logged on. It is an abomination to
> even think about using the ISS BBS.
> Oops... nevermind... I see you are on an island thousands of miles from
> any Ham Radio density...
> But again, this will ONLY work over Hawaii, or Australia, or South Africa
> or other areas where packet ISS usage is so low as to be non-existant. In
> those places, yes, it would be a fun experiment. BUT ONLY UNTIL others
> heard about it. Then it would be the same ole' "tradgedy of the
> commons"... (google it)... Everybody tries and it fails for everyone....
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 16:23:34 -0400
From: Tom Karickhoff <tomk9166@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Vk4Nbl <vk4nbl@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box
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I have done a bit of work with APRS on the Raspberry Pi as a battery
powered mobile setup with Xaster. It had a 4in touch screen which made it
practical only for emergencies. I think a headless SatGate would be a
better use for an RPi.
On Sep 21, 2016 6:50 AM, "Andrew Rich" <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hello
>
> A while back I had a Linux computer that would listen for the ISS then
> start sending beacons
>
> Trying to cut back on wildly transmitting all day and night
>
> Has anyone used the raspberry Pi ?
>
> It lends itself nicely to such a beacon project
>
> Listen then beacon for ten minutes
>
> Andrew
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 17:23:45 -0500
From: John Becker <w0jab@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBBS)
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Sounds a lot like the uproar that was being said about the pactor
unattended system on HF bands. even if it was in its own "auto
forwarding sub band.
On 9/22/2016 2:40 PM, Clayton W5PFG wrote:
> Sadly, there are people who connect to the packet BBS regularly over the
> USA. It jams up the channel with REJ packets from AOS to LOS. Those
> people probably don't read anything published here on AMSAT-BB.
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 22 Sep 2016 15:33:41 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ISS ping box (now PBBS)
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Actually, using the BBS on the ISS is worse. With unattended operation
on HF, you're only causing congestion when transmitting. With the BBS,
once you connect you "own" the entire packet system until you either log
out or it times out. Given the difficulty of getting packets through
(2-way) the ISS, the chances of successfully talking to the BBS and
successfully logging out are next to nil, so when the station goes out
of range the system is dead to everyone for many minutes.
Once upon a time, the Mir station's BBS actually worked. But that
environment is long gone.
Greg KO6TH
John Becker wrote:
> Sounds a lot like the uproar that was being said about the pactor
> unattended system on HF bands. even if it was in its own "auto
> forwarding sub band.
>
> On 9/22/2016 2:40 PM, Clayton W5PFG wrote:
>> Sadly, there are people who connect to the packet BBS regularly over the
>> USA. It jams up the channel with REJ packets from AOS to LOS. Those
>> people probably don't read anything published here on AMSAT-BB.
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 23 Sep 2016 00:52:13 -0400
From: Matthew Stevens <matthew@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Multiple grids in N3FJP
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I know this has been addressed in the past. I just wondered if there had
been any further developments in dealing with multi-grid QSOs in N3FJP? If
not, any suggestions on keeping track of the gridlines you've worked?
- Matthew KK4FEM
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