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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
2. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (Jerry Buxton)
3. Cruise (onmontauk@xxxxx.xxxx
4. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (JoAnne Maenpaa)
5. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (Andrew Rich)
6. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (Andrew Rich)
7. Re: Pratham: IITB Student Satellite (Aayush Yadav)
8. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (sean fay)
9. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (E.Mike McCardel)
10. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (sean fay)
11. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (Paul Stoetzer)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 14:57:50 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
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Peter,
Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
Dave-KB1PVH
Sent from my Galaxy S7
On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>
> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
> slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK - no
> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>
> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> something.
>
>
> --
> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 14:18:59 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
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On 9/24/2016 13:12, Peter Laws wrote:
> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> something.
>
>
All,
I know it's been said many times before - we are all volunteers. Joe
does IT. Since Joe is the only one who has volunteered to do that, it's
up to when he can get it done.
(Insert many times before mentioned plug for volunteer help here.)
Normally things go pretty well but life takes precedence over hobby as
I'm sure you all know. Joe is buried and will fix the store ASAP.
I am a stickler for detail and so I don't like to see things that aren't
"right" when they could be, on the other hand it can't be because Joe is
busy existing so we understand. On behalf of AMSAT I apologize for any
grief but I ask you all to understand as well.
In the meantime the date really is kind of irrelevant, while I agree it
would be nice for it to say something meaningful the fact that the store
is closed remains the same. Kinda like going to a shop where the sign
says "Will Return at 1PM" and it's 1:30 PM so what do you do? Wait, or
come back later... cursing the sign won't get you inside.
But wait! In this case you have an alternative, please just call
Martha. Unless you were just planning on browsing, she can get you
whatever you wanted from the store. She does it anyway, when you order
online.
Thanks!
Jerry Buxton, N?JY
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 15:12:14 -0400
From: onmontauk@xxxxx.xxx
To: Amsat-Bb andy thomas via <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Cruise
Message-ID: <4F1D84D7-60C9-4250-A4DE-4FF12D234279@xxxxx.xxx>
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I'm around a week before and after the cruise. Anyone want to explore the
area?
Sent from my iPhone
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 16:39:37 -0500
From: "JoAnne Maenpaa" <k9jkm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
Message-ID: <003201d216ac$2659a1c0$730ce540$@xxx>
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> But for goodness' sake ...
Yeah, for goodness sake ... [DELETE] ... and, now back to online research on
which RV I'll get for going to hamfests and national parks. Much more
rewarding. Oh, where will the mobile ham station and laptop go? And, how
about flamingo themed shower doors in the lavatory?
--
73 de JoAnne K9JKM
k9jkm@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 08:37:29 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
Message-ID: <A51DEFD7-1301-4CAF-AAE2-7AE405F7029C@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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I aka computer programmer with heaps of time on my hands
What do u need done
I design websites in my sleep
Andrew
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Sent from my iPhone
Andrew Rich
e vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
w www.tech-software.net
m 0419 738 223
> On 25 Sep 2016, at 05:18, Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> On 9/24/2016 13:12, Peter Laws wrote:
>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
>> off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>> something.
> All,
>
> I know it's been said many times before - we are all volunteers. Joe
> does IT. Since Joe is the only one who has volunteered to do that, it's
> up to when he can get it done.
> (Insert many times before mentioned plug for volunteer help here.)
> Normally things go pretty well but life takes precedence over hobby as
> I'm sure you all know. Joe is buried and will fix the store ASAP.
>
> I am a stickler for detail and so I don't like to see things that aren't
> "right" when they could be, on the other hand it can't be because Joe is
> busy existing so we understand. On behalf of AMSAT I apologize for any
> grief but I ask you all to understand as well.
>
> In the meantime the date really is kind of irrelevant, while I agree it
> would be nice for it to say something meaningful the fact that the store
> is closed remains the same. Kinda like going to a shop where the sign
> says "Will Return at 1PM" and it's 1:30 PM so what do you do? Wait, or
> come back later... cursing the sign won't get you inside.
> But wait! In this case you have an alternative, please just call
> Martha. Unless you were just planning on browsing, she can get you
> whatever you wanted from the store. She does it anyway, when you order
> online.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 08:38:25 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
Message-ID: <E578ED8E-D570-4F0C-BA3E-6BA3710A5D59@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Peter like me expects better
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Sent from my iPhone
Andrew Rich
e vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
w www.tech-software.net
m 0419 738 223
> On 25 Sep 2016, at 04:57, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Peter,
>
> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>
>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>
>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>> the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
>> slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK - no
>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>
>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
>> off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>> something.
>>
>>
>> --
>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 04:08:31 +0530
From: Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg@xxxxx.xx.xx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
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Hello all,
We are glad to inform you that Pratham, IITB's Student Satellite is
expected to launch with the help of PSLV-C35 on 26th September, 2016 at
9:12 AM.
??
The following are the TLE data for the satellite:
16005A 16270.25119097 0.00000311 00000-0 59418-4 0
1232
98.2057 329.0542 0028038 267.7677 9.1998 14.63716875 11
Any update in these will be notified at the earliest. We would love you all
to be a part of the project and help us in tracking our satellite.
There are basically
two downlink for the satellite, The beacon is estimated to switch on in the
window of 25-30 degrees North and 4-8 degrees East as per the current
TLE's. Once switched on, it will remain so through out it's orbit. The
telemetry data will be switched on only over France and India because of
our power constraints. If you could, please receive the beacon and/or
telemetry of the satellite and report back to the mail id's as given below.
The information for the satellite transmissions is given below,
Beacon:
Frequency: 145.98 MHz
Modulation: CW
Words per minute: 30
Power Emitted: 0.2 W (23 dBm)
Telemetry:
To be switched on only over India and France
Modulation: FSK
Rate: 1200 bps
Power Emitted: 0.06 W (18 dBm)
For any other Information you may visit our website
<http://www.aero.iitb.ac.in/pratham/>. Also feel free to contact our
Communication and Ground station team, (Rachana Agarwal,
rachna.agrawal.04@xxxxx.xxxx and Aayush Yadav, aayushyadav825@xxxxx.xxxx
for any queries you may have.
On Thu, Sep 8, 2016 at 1:44 PM, Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> Hello,
>
> Thank you for your wishes.
>
> The FSK downlink contains only the health monitoring data of the satellite
> and is used for payload calculations. IPGP university in france requested
> us for the payload data for their scientific research thus we are switching
> on the telemetry only over India and France.
>
> However the CW beacon will be on through out the orbit and can be received
> from anywhere.
>
> Kind regards,
> Team Pratham
>
>
> On Thursday 8 September 2016, Nitin Muttin <vu3tyg@xxxxx.xx.xx> wrote:
>
>> Hi Team Pratham,
>>
>> Thanks for the update and will look forward for a successful launch and
>> deployment of your satellite. Please share why the FSK downlink on 437.455
>> Mhz is activated over France and India.
>>
>> 73
>> Nitin [VU3TYG]
>> Secretary, AMSAT INDIA
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Aayush Yadav <aayushyadav825@xxxxx.xxx>
>> *To:* "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, 7 September 2016 10:25 PM
>> *Subject:* [amsat-bb] Pratham: IITB Student Satellite
>>
>> Greetings everyone,
>>
>> We, students of IIT Bombay, are glad to inform you that our project,
>> Pratham, is ready and expected to launch with PSLV-C35 in the last week of
>> September. We would be really happy if you all joined us in receiving our
>> satellite's beacon, details given below:
>>
>> Beacon:
>> Mode: CW
>> wpm: 35 words
>> Frequency: 145.980 MHz
>>
>> Downlink:
>> Mode: FSK
>> Baudrate: 1200 bps
>> Frequency: 437.455 MHz
>> (To be switched on over France and India only)
>>
>> We will update the information as soon as TLE's will be available.
>>
>> Kind Regards.
>> Team Pratham
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>>
>>
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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 19:38:48 -0500
From: sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
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As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just
call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I
am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Peter,
>
> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>
> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
> >
> > I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> > the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
> > slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK - no
> > one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
> > you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> >
> > But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> > off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> > something.
> >
> >
> > --
> > Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:20:52 -0400
From: "E.Mike McCardel" <mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>
To: sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
Message-ID: <A271C717-2540-4099-A61C-F05CF509C212@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Okay, Rich has stepped up and offered to help. Anyone else?
Not an IT guy/gal volunteer to do something else.
Believe me, it even takes time to respond to offers of help when you are
buried in your work. So I little patience please.
EMike
EMike McCardel, AA8EM
Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
> up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> bringing this up.
>
>
> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just
> call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I
> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>
>
>
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Peter,
>>
>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>>
>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>
>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>
>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>>
>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>> the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
>>> slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK - no
>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>>
>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
>>> off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>> something.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:29:00 -0500
From: sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>, AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
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The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
The website is not up to date.
It its 9/24 and its not open.
The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have
a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there
will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
oversight like this. UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT
converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
visitor. I joined and then apparently my father joined cause he is my
elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
his ops. Every member represents more potential members because of vocal
advocacy.
Its not pedantic, its reality.
The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
about UX and someone told them that if it bothers them to stop looking at
it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th
and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
you quit looking at it?"
We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is
up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew.
don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
QUOTED
the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security
processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the
changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling
martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
73...bruce
Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
bringing this up.
I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just
call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I
am with Peter and Andrew on this
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security
> processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the
> changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling
> martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
>
> 73...bruce
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
> up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> bringing this up.
>
>
> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just
> call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I
> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
> > Peter,
> >
> > Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> > constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> >
> > Dave-KB1PVH
> >
> > Sent from my Galaxy S7
> >
> > On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > > http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
> > >
> > > I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> > > the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
> > > slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK - no
> > > one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
> > > you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> > >
> > > But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> > > off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> > > something.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
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> > program!
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>
> > >
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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:41:21 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>, AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
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The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer
resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can
to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web
designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an
IT person either.
We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on
our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who
wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill
set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
73,
Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
Secretary
Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
>
> The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
> between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
>
>
>
> The website is not up to date.
>
> It its 9/24 and its not open.
>
>
> The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have
> a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
>
>
> I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there
> will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
> oversight like this. UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT
> converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
> visitor. I joined and then apparently my father joined cause he is my
> elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
> his ops. Every member represents more potential members because of vocal
> advocacy.
>
>
> Its not pedantic, its reality.
>
>
> The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
> about UX and someone told them that if it bothers them to stop looking at
> it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
> way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th
> and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
> you quit looking at it?"
>
>
>
> We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership is
> up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to renew.
> don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
> because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
>
>
> QUOTED
>
> the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security
> processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the
> changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling
> martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
>
> 73...bruce
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>
> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of active
> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should look
> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went to
> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their website
> up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> bringing this up.
>
>
> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just
> call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I
> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security
> > processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the
> > changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling
> > martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
> >
> > 73...bruce
> >
> > Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
> >
> > On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
> spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
> active
> > amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
> look
> > at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
> to
> > the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
> > date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
> never
> > look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
> the
> > organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
> website
> > up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> > There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> > bringing this up.
> >
> >
> > I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
> > upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just
> > call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I
> > am with Peter and Andrew on this
> >
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> > > constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> > >
> > > Dave-KB1PVH
> > >
> > > Sent from my Galaxy S7
> > >
> > > On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > >
> > > > http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
> > > >
> > > > I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> > > > the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
> happens
> > > > slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK -
> no
> > > > one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
> store,
> > > > you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> > > >
> > > > But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
> past,
> > > > off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> > > > something.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> > > > _______________________________________________
> > > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
> available
> > > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > > Opinions
> > > > expressed
> > > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> > of
> > > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > > program!
> > > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
> listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> > > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions
> > > expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> > >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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> >
> >
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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