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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (Andrew Rich)
   2. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (Andrew Rich)
   3. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (Jerry Buxton)
   4. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (Jerry Buxton)
   5. Re: Sat Look Down (Andrew Rich)
   6. Re: SDR monitoring/telemetry station (Andrew Rich)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:28:19 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "E.Mike McCardel"
<mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
Message-ID: <70D28E90-A5F0-4A2E-8B9E-7221E2FD0BEA@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

Failure number 1

Not being able to reference the material that backs up the statement

Andrew

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx






> On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:25 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Working on the website would not be subject to such restrictions.
>
> As stated on the website:
>
> If you have hardware or software technical skills, and proven experience
directly applicable to satellite design, please contact the AMSAT Vice
President of Engineering <http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=1121>(N0JY).  Due to
the American International Traffic in Arms Regulations
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations>
(ITAR) you must be either a US Citizen or a permanent resident (ITAR
Qualifications
<http://www.amsat.org/www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/itar/p120.htm>). This
is not our reflection on foreign citizens, but is required by existing US
law.  Recent changes suggest that this restriction may soon be lifted or at
least modified.  If and when this happens, we will be delighted to be able
to again work freely with our foreign colleagues.
>
> This is only for working directly on our satellite projects and is due to
US federal law. It is certainly not a reflection of our feelings towards
non-Americans. We would love for anyone worldwide to be able to work on any
AMSAT project without restriction.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
<mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> Sorry I can?t help you
>
> Your own website states I must be a US citizen to Volunteer
>
> That must mean they don?t trust non yanks
>
> Andrew
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx <mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:15 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
<mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >
> > By the way
> >
> > My name is Andrew
> >
> > It would be a good start to get that right
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> > m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx <mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Okay, Rich has stepped up and offered to help. Anyone else?
> >> Not an IT guy/gal volunteer to do something else.
> >> Believe me, it even takes time to respond to offers of help when you
are buried in your work. So I little patience please.
> >>
> >> EMike
> >>
> >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
active
> >>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
look
> >>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I
went to
> >>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until
(insert
> >>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
never
> >>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
the
> >>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
website
> >>> up to date.   It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> >>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> >>> bringing this up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of
an
> >>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
> >>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.
 I
> >>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter,
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> >>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave-KB1PVH
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ <http://store.amsat.org/catalog/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> >>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
> >>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
> >>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
> >>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> >>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> >>>>> something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA
makes this open forum available
> >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>>> Opinions
> >>>>> expressed
> >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of
> >>>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>>> program!
> >>>>> Subscription settings:
http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA
makes this open forum available
> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions
> >>>> expressed
> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of
> >>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA
makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA makes
this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA makes
this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA makes
this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
>



------------------------------

Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:29:16 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "E.Mike McCardel"
<mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
Message-ID: <E60492B1-289F-46CB-BFF7-C4A3CF28B19D@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=utf-8

BTW

I have commercial web site training and I am fluent in HTML PHP MySQL CGI
perl CMS WordPress

Andrew

------------------------------------------
Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx






> On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:25 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Working on the website would not be subject to such restrictions.
>
> As stated on the website:
>
> If you have hardware or software technical skills, and proven experience
directly applicable to satellite design, please contact the AMSAT Vice
President of Engineering <http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=1121>(N0JY).  Due to
the American International Traffic in Arms Regulations
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations>
(ITAR) you must be either a US Citizen or a permanent resident (ITAR
Qualifications
<http://www.amsat.org/www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/itar/p120.htm>). This
is not our reflection on foreign citizens, but is required by existing US
law.  Recent changes suggest that this restriction may soon be lifted or at
least modified.  If and when this happens, we will be delighted to be able
to again work freely with our foreign colleagues.
>
> This is only for working directly on our satellite projects and is due to
US federal law. It is certainly not a reflection of our feelings towards
non-Americans. We would love for anyone worldwide to be able to work on any
AMSAT project without restriction.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
<mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> Sorry I can?t help you
>
> Your own website states I must be a US citizen to Volunteer
>
> That must mean they don?t trust non yanks
>
> Andrew
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx <mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:15 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
<mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >
> > By the way
> >
> > My name is Andrew
> >
> > It would be a good start to get that right
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> > m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx <mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Okay, Rich has stepped up and offered to help. Anyone else?
> >> Not an IT guy/gal volunteer to do something else.
> >> Believe me, it even takes time to respond to offers of help when you
are buried in your work. So I little patience please.
> >>
> >> EMike
> >>
> >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
active
> >>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
look
> >>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I
went to
> >>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until
(insert
> >>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
never
> >>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
the
> >>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
website
> >>> up to date.   It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> >>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> >>> bringing this up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of
an
> >>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
> >>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.
 I
> >>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter,
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> >>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave-KB1PVH
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ <http://store.amsat.org/catalog/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> >>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
> >>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK - no
> >>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
> >>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> >>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> >>>>> something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> >>>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA
makes this open forum available
> >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> >>>> Opinions
> >>>>> expressed
> >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of
> >>>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> >>>> program!
> >>>>> Subscription settings:
http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA
makes this open forum available
> >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions
> >>>> expressed
> >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of
> >>>> AMSAT-NA.
> >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> >>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA
makes this open forum available
> >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of AMSAT-NA.
> >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> >>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >> _______________________________________________
> >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA makes
this open forum available
> >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of AMSAT-NA.
> >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA makes
this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA makes
this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
>



------------------------------

Message: 3
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:39:12 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
Message-ID: <8613e61e-5e7e-e841-3b63-86467063acb2@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

Andrew,

I sent you a PM.  Thanks for volunteering!

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 9/24/2016 21:10, Andrew Rich wrote:
> I am an IT person
>
> I am a web designer
>
> I am volunteering
>
> I spend most of my time on the PC
>
> What do u need done I will do it
>
> Andrew
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer
>> resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can
>> to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web
>> designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an
>> IT person either.
>>
>> We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on
>> our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who
>> wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill
>> set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
>> Secretary
>> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
>>>
>>> The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
>>> between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The website is not up to date.
>>>
>>> It its 9/24 and its not open.
>>>
>>>
>>> The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have
>>> a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there
>>> will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
>>> oversight like this.  UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT
>>> converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
>>> visitor. I joined and then apparently my father  joined cause  he is my
>>> elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
>>> his ops.    Every member represents more potential members because of
vocal
>>> advocacy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Its not pedantic, its reality.
>>>
>>>
>>> The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
>>> about UX and someone told them  that if it bothers them to stop looking at
>>> it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
>>> way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th
>>> and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
>>> you quit looking at it?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership
is
>>> up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to
renew.
>>> don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
>>> because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
>>>
>>>
>>> QUOTED
>>>
>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>>
>>> 73...bruce
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
active
>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
look
>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
to
>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
website
>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>> bringing this up.
>>>
>>>
>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>>>
>>>> 73...bruce
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
>>> spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
>>> active
>>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
>>> look
>>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
>>> to
>>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
>>> never
>>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
>>> the
>>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
>>> website
>>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>>> bringing this up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>>>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
>>> happens
>>>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK -
>>> no
>>>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
>>> store,
>>>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
>>> past,
>>>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>> available
>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>> Opinions
>>>>>> expressed
>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of
>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>> program!
>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
>>> listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>>> expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of
>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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>



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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 21:40:01 -0500
From: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
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Sorry, volunteering is volunteering.  We get an occasional pat on the
back, if we can reach behind us that far.     ;-)

Jerry Buxton, N?JY

On 9/24/2016 21:14, Andrew Rich wrote:
> How much is an AMSAT membership ?
>
> Can I get one in return for doing the web pages
>
> Andrew
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
>
>
>
>
>
>
>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer
>> resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can
>> to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a web
>> designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an
>> IT person either.
>>
>> We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on
>> our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who
>> wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill
>> set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
>>
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
>> Secretary
>> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
>>
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
>>>
>>> The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
>>> between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The website is not up to date.
>>>
>>> It its 9/24 and its not open.
>>>
>>>
>>> The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just have
>>> a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
>>>
>>>
>>> I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but there
>>> will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
>>> oversight like this.  UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro AMSAT
>>> converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
>>> visitor. I joined and then apparently my father  joined cause  he is my
>>> elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
>>> his ops.    Every member represents more potential members because of
vocal
>>> advocacy.
>>>
>>>
>>> Its not pedantic, its reality.
>>>
>>>
>>> The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
>>> about UX and someone told them  that if it bothers them to stop looking at
>>> it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
>>> way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the 15th
>>> and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
>>> you quit looking at it?"
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly membership
is
>>> up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to
renew.
>>> don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
>>> because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
>>>
>>>
>>> QUOTED
>>>
>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>>
>>> 73...bruce
>>>
>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>>
>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
active
>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
look
>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
to
>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and never
>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is the
>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
website
>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>> bringing this up.
>>>
>>>
>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>>> the website is up todate.  paypal made a change in their security
>>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply.  it is down while the
>>>> changes are being made.  you can order anything from the store by calling
>>>> martha at the office.  orders are still being processed that way.
>>>>
>>>> 73...bruce
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
>>> spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
>>> active
>>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
>>> look
>>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
>>> to
>>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
>>> never
>>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
>>> the
>>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
>>> website
>>>> up to date.  It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>>> bringing this up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"  with no date. I would just
>>>> call Martha.      Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.  I
>>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>
>>>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>>>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>>>>>
>>>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>>>>> the store.  Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
>>> happens
>>>>>> slowly.  I get it.  It's fine.  More time is needed and that's OK -
>>> no
>>>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
>>> store,
>>>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
>>> past,
>>>>>> off the placeholder page?  Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>> available
>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>> Opinions
>>>>>> expressed
>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of
>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>> program!
>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
>>> listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>>> expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>> of
>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
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>>>>
>>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>



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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:54:05 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
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Port it to Linux

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m 0419 738 223

> On 25 Sep 2016, at 02:12, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Joe,
>
> Glad everything worked out. When Microsoft tightened up the security on
> Windows to allow better access control it did require programs that did
> more than basic stuff to run with Administrative rights which had to be set
> by an user with administrative rights. It is amazing how many posts you see
> on windows developers sites asking how to set the program rights to
> Administrative from within the program - it would sort of defeat the
> purpose of the whole thing. The only way to eliminate the run as
> administrator requirement is to hold an expensive fancy developers license.
>
> I had not looked at my  'SimpleSat Look Down' program in several years. I
> have a habit of being more interested in new things and sort of move on
> to a new challenge when something is working.
>
> At a very early age my mother noticed my tendency to get bored when things
> were working and move on to something new. She told me to never have any
> children. "You will get bored with them, move on to something new and they
> will starve to death." My web site is a good indication of how wise my
> mother was.
>
> http://www.tomdoyle.org
>
> 73 W9KE Tom Doyle
>
>
>
>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:42 AM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> For everyones info:
>>
>> I did do all as described in the help, AND what many here on the list said
>> to do, and nothing worked. It kept crashing.
>>
>> Till one person suggested running the program as Administrator mode.
>>
>> I tried that and it's ran perfectly ever since!  I just LOVE that little
>> program!
>>
>> Tom did a great Job with it!  I really love the simple second station
>> thing where with a single click you can see when there are passes where
>> both stations have the bird in view, soooo cool.
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>> On 9/24/2016 10:36 AM, Thomas Doyle wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I did break with the long ham tradition of not reading manuals or help
>>> files and tried adding the file Joe mentioned using the procedure outlined
>>> in my help file. And it worked perfectly.
>>>
>>> Here is the resultant "WebDataSources.txt" file
>>>
>>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt,
>>> Celestrak-Amateur.txt
>>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/weather.txt,
>>> Celestrak-Weather.txt
>>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/stations.txt,
>>> Celestrak-Stations.txt
>>> http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt, Celestrak-New.txt
>>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt,
>>> Amsat-nasabare.txt
>>>
>>> Here is the information you will see if you click on the rarely used
>>>  "Help" button in my program :-)
>>>
>>> =====  *Optional Really Advanced Feature*  ======
>>>
>>> *--- Manage TLE Data ---*
>>> The program distribution comes set up in a way that should handle the
>>> needs
>>> of most users. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very
>>> good understanding of satellite tracking and need more continue reading.
>>> The program obtains TLE data two ways. Direct download from the internet
>>> is
>>> the easiest. Manual entry of TLE data can also be used. The program
>>> distribution is set up to download TLE data from the following sites.
>>>
>>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
>>> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt
>>>
>>> The program also allows manual entry of TLE data. The TLE data format is
>>> the traditional three line format as shown in the sample for AO-10 shown
>>> below. The first line contains the satellite name followed by the two
>>> lines
>>> of TLE data. If the format is not correct - it will not work. To add TLE
>>> data first create a text file. Cut and paste the TLE data into the file.
>>> Remember the first line is the satellite name followed by the two lines of
>>> TLE data. When the file is ready, change the file extension of the file to
>>> .tle and put it into the 'SimpleSatData/SatData/ManualSatData' folder.
>>> You
>>> may put as many satellites in a file as you wish and you may have as many
>>> files as needed.
>>>
>>> As expected the TLE data you enter this way is not deleted when a web
>>> update is done. This TLE data is also not updated when you do an web
>>> update. As a reminder to myself that this is manual data I put ( ) around
>>> the satellite name. This may not seem important to you now but it is very
>>> helpful.
>>>
>>> In the 'SimpleSatData/SatData' folder you will find a file
>>> 'WebDataSources.txt'. This file controls which web data sources are used
>>> by
>>> the program. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very good
>>> understanding of satellite tracking you can modify this file to add
>>> additional web data sources. Note that a ' - ' at the start of a line
>>> tells
>>> the program not use this source. The file name after the comma is the file
>>> name that will be used to store the TLE data downloaded from the site
>>> specified in the URL before the comma. The file name after the comma less
>>> the file extension is what is used to identify the 'Web Data Source' in
>>> the
>>> setup function. It is possible to really screw things up if this is not
>>> done correctly so if you are not a very advanced computer user or do not
>>> thoroughly understand satellite tracking I recommend staying away from
>>> this
>>> entirely.
>>> ===========================================================
>>>
>>> Be sure to click on the "Web Update" button after updating your
>>> WebDataSources.txt file.
>>>
>>> If you follow the directions and it does not work the problem lies
>>> somewhere in your computer not the program.
>>>
>>> Hope it works out ok for you.
>>>
>>> 73 W9KE Tom Doyle
>>>
>>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> Anyone else here using this program?
>>>>
>>>> I'm having a problem adding in the nasabare
>>>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
>>>> source.
>>>> When I do the program crashes.
>>>>
>>>> Joe WB9SBD
>>>> --
>>>> Sig
>>>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>>>> Idle Tyme
>>>> Idle-Tyme.com
>>>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Sent from my computer.
>
> tom ...
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:52:24 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Simon Brown <simon@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
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Simon

Rotator controller Doppler shift and satellite priority ?

Andrew

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> On 25 Sep 2016, at 02:15, Simon Brown <simon@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Matthew,
>
> Yes - it is quite some project but I've broken the back of it and tomorrow /
> early next week will be transmitting with my FT-991 and receiving with the
> Airspy, all controlled via one software package.
>
> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
> http://sdr-radio.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Matthew
> Stevens
> Sent: 24 September 2016 12:51
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SDR monitoring/telemetry station
>
> Wow, looks like quite a project! That will be really nice to have everything
> in one package.
>
> The SDRplay is 12 bit, I believe. Right now I'm going to keep everything
> simple as I can. Don't have a place to mount a rotator/array anyways.
>
> - Matthew KK4FEM
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 07:36, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Yep
>>
>> + RTL SDR
>> + AirSpy Mini
>> + LimeSDR
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> w www.tech-software.net
>> m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 24 Sep 2016, at 9:29 PM, Simon Brown <simon@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> But,
>>>
>>> Only an 8-bit device, therefore with limited dynamic range. The
>>> AirSpy Mini (the AirSpy dongle flavour)
>>> https://www.itead.cc/airspy-mini.html is a much better option, especially
> with the latest software support in SDR#.
>>>
>>> FWIW a full-blown station is what I'm working on myself:
>>> http://sdr-satellites.com/
>>>
>>> Simon Brown, GK4ELI
>>> http://sdr-radio.com
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of
>>> Andrew Rich
>>>
>>> RTL SDR dongle
>>>
>>> I see it can do multiple freqs at once
>>>
>>> Depends on how far you want to go - you can have a fully blown
>>> rotator controlled and radio station
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
> official views of AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
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>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the
> official views of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all
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