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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Sat Look Down (Andrew Rich)
2. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (R.T.Liddy)
3. ANS-269 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins (Lee McLamb)
4. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (Andrew Rich)
5. Web site (Andrew Rich)
6. Re: Seriously - can this be updated? (Andrew Rich)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 12:55:39 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Sat Look Down
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I love it advanced computer user
Heck what qualifies a non advanced PC user
A
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Sent from my iPhone
Andrew Rich
e vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
w www.tech-software.net
m 0419 738 223
> On 25 Sep 2016, at 01:36, Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> I did break with the long ham tradition of not reading manuals or help
> files and tried adding the file Joe mentioned using the procedure outlined
> in my help file. And it worked perfectly.
>
> Here is the resultant "WebDataSources.txt" file
>
> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt, Celestrak-Amateur.txt
> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/weather.txt, Celestrak-Weather.txt
> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/stations.txt, Celestrak-Stations.txt
> http://celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/tle-new.txt, Celestrak-New.txt
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt, Amsat-nasabare.txt
>
> Here is the information you will see if you click on the rarely used
> "Help" button in my program :-)
>
> ===== *Optional Really Advanced Feature* ======
>
> *--- Manage TLE Data ---*
> The program distribution comes set up in a way that should handle the needs
> of most users. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very
> good understanding of satellite tracking and need more continue reading.
> The program obtains TLE data two ways. Direct download from the internet is
> the easiest. Manual entry of TLE data can also be used. The program
> distribution is set up to download TLE data from the following sites.
>
> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
> http://www.celestrak.com/NORAD/elements/amateur.txt
>
> The program also allows manual entry of TLE data. The TLE data format is
> the traditional three line format as shown in the sample for AO-10 shown
> below. The first line contains the satellite name followed by the two lines
> of TLE data. If the format is not correct - it will not work. To add TLE
> data first create a text file. Cut and paste the TLE data into the file.
> Remember the first line is the satellite name followed by the two lines of
> TLE data. When the file is ready, change the file extension of the file to
> .tle and put it into the 'SimpleSatData/SatData/ManualSatData' folder. You
> may put as many satellites in a file as you wish and you may have as many
> files as needed.
>
> As expected the TLE data you enter this way is not deleted when a web
> update is done. This TLE data is also not updated when you do an web
> update. As a reminder to myself that this is manual data I put ( ) around
> the satellite name. This may not seem important to you now but it is very
> helpful.
>
> In the 'SimpleSatData/SatData' folder you will find a file
> 'WebDataSources.txt'. This file controls which web data sources are used by
> the program. If you are a very advanced computer user and have a very good
> understanding of satellite tracking you can modify this file to add
> additional web data sources. Note that a ' - ' at the start of a line tells
> the program not use this source. The file name after the comma is the file
> name that will be used to store the TLE data downloaded from the site
> specified in the URL before the comma. The file name after the comma less
> the file extension is what is used to identify the 'Web Data Source' in the
> setup function. It is possible to really screw things up if this is not
> done correctly so if you are not a very advanced computer user or do not
> thoroughly understand satellite tracking I recommend staying away from this
> entirely.
> ===========================================================
>
> Be sure to click on the "Web Update" button after updating your
> WebDataSources.txt file.
>
> If you follow the directions and it does not work the problem lies
> somewhere in your computer not the program.
>
> Hope it works out ok for you.
>
> 73 W9KE Tom Doyle
>
>> On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 4:51 PM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Anyone else here using this program?
>>
>> I'm having a problem adding in the nasabare
>> http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasabare.txt
>> source.
>> When I do the program crashes.
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> --
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
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>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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>
>
>
> --
>
> Sent from my computer.
>
> tom ...
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 02:58:20 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>, Paul Stoetzer
<n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, "E.Mike McCardel"
<mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
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Andrew.... Thanks for volunteering. ?Bob K8BL (ex-VK4BTL)
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 10:29 PM
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
BTW
I have commercial web site training and I am fluent in HTML PHP MySQL CGI
perl CMS WordPress
Andrew
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Andrew Rich VK4TEC
w www.tech-software.net
m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
> On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:25 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Working on the website would not be subject to such restrictions.
>
> As stated on the website:
>
> If you have hardware or software technical skills, and proven experience
directly applicable to satellite design, please contact the AMSAT Vice
President of Engineering <http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=1121>(N0JY).? Due to
the American International Traffic in Arms Regulations
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations>
(ITAR) you must be either a US Citizen or a permanent resident (ITAR
Qualifications
<http://www.amsat.org/www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/itar/p120.htm>). This
is not our reflection on foreign citizens, but is required by existing US
law.? Recent changes suggest that this restriction may soon be lifted or at
least modified.? If and when this happens, we will be delighted to be able
to again work freely with our foreign colleagues.
>
> This is only for working directly on our satellite projects and is due to
US federal law. It is certainly not a reflection of our feelings towards
non-Americans. We would love for anyone worldwide to be able to work on any
AMSAT project without restriction.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
<mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> Sorry I can?t help you
>
> Your own website states I must be a US citizen to Volunteer
>
> That must mean they don?t trust non yanks
>
> Andrew
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx <mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:15 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
<mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >
> > By the way
> >
> > My name is Andrew
> >
> > It would be a good start to get that right
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> > m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx <mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >>
> >> Okay, Rich has stepped up and offered to help. Anyone else?
> >> Not an IT guy/gal volunteer to do something else.
> >> Believe me, it even takes time to respond to offers of help when you
are buried in your work. So I little patience please.
> >>
> >> EMike
> >>
> >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
active
> >>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
look
> >>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I
went to
> >>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until
(insert
> >>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
never
> >>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
the
> >>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
website
> >>> up to date.? It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> >>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
> >>> bringing this up.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of
an
> >>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance"? with no date. I would just
> >>> call Martha.? ? ? Having an out of date date looks super mickey
mouse.? I
> >>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Peter,
> >>>>
> >>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> >>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> >>>>
> >>>> Dave-KB1PVH
> >>>>
> >>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> >>>>
> >>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ <http://store.amsat.org/catalog/>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> >>>>> the store.? Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it happens
> >>>>> slowly.? I get it.? It's fine.? More time is needed and that's OK - no
> >>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the store,
> >>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the past,
> >>>>> off the placeholder page?? Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> >>>>> something.
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 23:37:08 -0400
From: Lee McLamb <ku4os@xxx.xx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-269 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-269
The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.
The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.
Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.
In this edition:
* Planning Satellite Operations During the 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium
* Plan Ahead for New Years AMSAT CW Activity Day on the Satellites
* Chinese Space Station Visible
* Measuring Sky Angles With Your Hand
* Falcon 9 Static Fire Anomaly Update
* Satellite Shorts From All Over
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-269.01
ANS-269 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 269.01
From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE September 25, 2016
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-269.01
Planning Satellite Operations During the 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium
If you are attending the 2016 AMSAT Space Symposium at Sea, Carnival
Cruise Line policy allows amateur radio operation as specified in its
corporate policy. Please review the FAQs Restricted Items List.
For details see:
https://help.carnival.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/2261
So if you are planning to attend the Symposium and wish to bring radios
to operate, please remember that the Carnival Liberty is registered in
Panama. US licensed amateur operators wishing to operate at sea must
obtain an International Amateur Radio Permit (IARP) from the ARRL. A good
rule to apply is a minimum of 30-45 days in advance.
Details are available at the following site:
http://www.arrl.org/iarp
To file the permit you will need to provide the following:
1. Completed and Signed IARP Application Form for US Amateur Radio
Operators
2. Photocopy of the applicant's US FCC Amateur license
3. Photocopy of the applicant's legal photo-ID
4. A 1.5x1.5 inch color or black/white Passport size photo of the Applicant
5. Application Fee payable to "ARRL VEC" by check, money order, or
credit card
Submit applications and supporting documents to:
ARRL - VEC Department
225 Main Street
Newington, CT 06111 USA
Questions can be directed to:
(860)594-0300 (weekdays 8AM to 5PM ET)
or to
vec@xxxx.xxx
Of all the application items, #4 seems to be the most difficult to obtain.
AMSAT Vice President, Engineering, Jerry Buxton, N0JY provided the
suggestion.
Did you know that you can use the U.S Department of State website
to crop your own photo to use with the application?
https://travel.state.gov/content/passports/en/passports/photos/photos.html
Look on the right side of the page under "Already Have a Photo?"
It lets you pick a photo you have on your PC, and save it back to your
PC. You can then print it to send with the application.
(Of course, you'll have to figure out how to get it 1.5 x 1.5 inches, I
used Word.)
A reminder that you would need a Reciprocal Permit issued by The
Republic of
Mexico to operate in Mexico and operating from Mexican Islands is strictly
controlled.
http://www.arrl.org/reciprocal-permit
Obtaining can be a time consuming and expensive procedure for the one day
in port, see
http://www.qsl.net/oh2mcn/xe.htm
http://xe-permit.wd9ewk.net/
See you on-board or on the air!
(ANS thanks Joe Spier, K6WAO, AMSAT Vice President, Educational Relations
for the above information)
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Plan Ahead for New Years AMSAT CW Activity Day on the Satellites
Thanks to all who participated in AMSAT's Straight Key Night 2016, held in
memory of Ben Stevenson, W2BXA. For 25 years, AMSAT has sponsored SKN on
OSCAR, and it's been my pleasure to conduct this event.
While Morse as a license qualification has gone the way of the spark
gap, I
am pleased to see that amateur CW activity is as popular as ever. Straight
keys and "bugs", however, have found a niche primarily with the boat anchor
crowd, and AMSAT's insistence on their use in OSCAR SKN has held down
participation. Similar considerations have led ARRL to broaden its
annual HF
event to include all forms of CW, even computer-generated. The idea is to
encourage everyone to enjoy CW operation, no matter how they choose to do
it. We agree 100%.
So, in with the new: AMSAT CW Activity Day.
As with the old SKN, it will be a fun event, not a contest, and will run
for
24 hours on January 1, 2017 (UTC). All forms of CW are welcome. Since it is
not a contest, there is no required exchange. A QSO is a QSO. Working the
same station on more than one satellite is permitted.
Instead of submitting Best Fist nominations, all participants are asked to
post their results, including "Soapbox" comments, to AMSAT-BB. Please
include the satellites you used, and the number of CW QSOs you had on each.
While it is not necessary to post your full log, you may do so if you wish.
CU on CW!
[ANS thanks Ray Soifer, W2RS, for the above information]
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Chinese Space Station Visible
Two weeks ago, on Sept. 15th, China launched a new space station to
Earth orbit:
Tiangong-2. The 10-meter long spacecraft is only a fraction the size of
the ISS,
but there is room inside for two tiakonauts (Chinese astronauts) and
plenty of
science experiments. And in dark skies, it can be seen with the naked
eye. On
Sept. 20th, Kevin Fetter of Brockville, Ontario, Canada, video-recorded the
Tiangong-2 passing by the bright star Zeta Ophiuchi:
"At the time the space station was passing the star, its magnitude was
near +5,"
estimates Fetter."It got into the 4th magnitude range just before it
disappeared
into Earth's shadow. So it is a naked-eye object, albeit barely."
Tiangong-2 is the second of three prototype space stations China plans
to launch
as the country builds toward a Mir-class outpost in the next decade.
Tiangong-2's predecessor, Tiangong-1, is still in orbit and expected to
burn up
in Earth's atmosphere sometime in 2017.
Next month, China will launch a crew of two to inhabit the new space
station for
approximately 30 days. While on board, they will test Tiangong-2's life
support
system, and possibly conduct experiments in brain-machine interfacing,
atomic
clock navigation, and quantum communications.
Ready to see for yourself? Tiangong-2 flyby predictions are available from
Heavens Above. "Use the Satellite Database and search for object '41765'
labeled
'OBJECT A,'" advises Fetter. "That's how to find it."
[ANS thanks Spaceweather.com for the above information]
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Measuring Sky Angles With Your Hand
Have you ever worked portable and wondered just how close you were
holding your
antenna in reference to the necessary altitude and azimuth to be on
target with
your satellite?
You can use your hands to measure degrees of the sky. There is a method
common
in astronomy for measuring sky angles. Here?s how they describe it on
One Minute
Astronomer:
"Your hands and fingers are a remarkably accurate (and convenient)
measuring
tool. When you hold your hand at arm?s length, you can estimate angles like
this:
Stretch your thumb and little finger as far from each other as you
can. The
span from tip to tip is about 25 degrees
Do the same with your index finger and little finger. The span is
15 degrees
Clench your fist at arms length, and hold it with the back of your
hand
facing you. The width is 10 degrees
Hold your three middle fingers together; they span about 5 degrees
The width of your little finger at arm?s length is 1 degree."
http://oneminuteastronomer.com/860/measuring-sky/
See also
http://makezine.com/2016/09/16/measuring-tip-ruler/
[ANS thanks oneminuteastronomer.com and make zone.com for the above
information.]
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Falcon 9 Static Fire Anomaly Update
Three weeks ago, SpaceX experienced an anomaly at our Launch Complex 40
(LC-40)
at Cape Canaveral Air Force Station. This resulted in the loss of one of
our
Falcon 9 rockets and its payload.
The Accident Investigation Team (AIT), composed of SpaceX, the FAA,
NASA, the
U.S. Air Force, and industry experts, are currently scouring through
approximately 3,000 channels of engineering data along with video, audio
and
imagery. The timeline of the event is extremely short ? from first signs
of an
anomaly to loss of data is about 93 milliseconds or less than 1/10th of a
second. The majority of debris from the incident has been recovered,
photographed, labeled and catalogued, and is now in a hangar for
inspection and
use during the investigation.
At this stage of the investigation, preliminary review of the data and
debris
suggests that a large breach in the cryogenic helium system of the
second stage
liquid oxygen tank took place. All plausible causes are being tracked in an
extensive fault tree and carefully investigated. Through the fault tree
and data
review process, we have exonerated any connection with last year?s CRS-7
mishap.
The teams have continued inspections of LC-40 and the surrounding
facilities.
While substantial areas of the pad systems were affected, the Falcon
Support
Building adjacent to the pad was unaffected, and per standard procedure was
unoccupied at the time of the anomaly. The new liquid oxygen farm ? e.g.
the
tanks and plumbing that hold our super-chilled liquid oxygen ? was
unaffected
and remains in good working order. The RP-1 (kerosene) fuel farm was also
largely unaffected. The pad?s control systems are also in relatively good
condition.
SpaceX?s other facilities, from the Payload Processing Facility at the
Cape, to
the pad and hangar at LC-39A, are located several miles from LC-40 and were
unaffected as well. Work continues at Pad 39A in preparation for
bringing it
online in November. The teams have been in contact with Cape Canaveral and
Kennedy Space Center partners and neighbors and have found no evidence
of debris
leaving the immediate area of LC-40.
At SpaceX headquarters in Hawthorne, CA, manufacturing and production is
continuing in a methodical manner, with teams continuing to build engines,
tanks, and other systems as they are exonerated from the investigation.
SpaceX
will work to resume our manifest as quickly as responsible once the
cause of the
anomaly has been identified by the Accident Investigation Team. Pending the
results of the investigation, return to flight is anticipated as early
as the
November timeframe.
[ANS thanks SpaceX for the above information]
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Satellite Shorts From All Over
+ Bruce Paige, KK5DO, reported that Randy, WI7P (ex N7SFI) has been
uploading many of his old logs to LoTW. As a result, if you are a LoTW user
you might find credit for many of his grid operations. Randy was one of the
first ones to work satellites from a grid other than his home grid with
more
than 100 grids. One time he was maritime mobile, kayaking on a river. He
also operated from the 2002 Winter Olympics in Park City Utah.
+ Damon, WA4FHN, and the Starcommgroup satellite operators club
congratulate
Fernando Ramirez-Ferrer, NP4JV for earning the Got Grids Award #17. Please
go to http://www.starcommgroup.org for more about the Starcommgroup's free
awards to satellite operators
+ The KO4BB manual repository includes a fairly large list of downloadable
test equipment and ham radio manuals. See:
http://www.ko4bb.com/getsimple/index.php?id=manuals
+ Ckayton Coleman, W5PFG, will operate from the Blackstone River Valley
National
Historical Park (NPOTA HP49) on Monday, September 26 in grid FN42.
All times given are in UTC
SO-50 20:36 - 20:48
XW-2F 21:46 - 21:53
XW-2C 21:53 - 21:59
SO-50 22:19 - 22:28 (possibly)
In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.
Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.
73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Lee McLamb, KU4OS
ku4os at amsat dot org
------------------------------
Message: 4
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 14:54:31 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>,
"E.Mike McCardel" <mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
Message-ID: <D20423BF-0C73-4120-A2E4-914D56A49C96@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
No worries Bob
I can remember working MIR on a commodore c64 and a hand held
Satellites hold a special place in my heart for some reason
A
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e vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
w www.tech-software.net
m 0419 738 223
> On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:58, R.T.Liddy <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Andrew.... Thanks for volunteering. Bob K8BL (ex-VK4BTL)
>
>
> From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
> Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>; E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Saturday, September 24, 2016 10:29 PM
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
>
> BTW
>
> I have commercial web site training and I am fluent in HTML PHP MySQL CGI
perl CMS WordPress
>
> Andrew
>
> ------------------------------------------
> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> w www.tech-software.net
> m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:25 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >
> > Working on the website would not be subject to such restrictions.
> >
> > As stated on the website:
> >
> > If you have hardware or software technical skills, and proven experience
directly applicable to satellite design, please contact the AMSAT Vice
President of Engineering <http://ww2.amsat.org/?page_id=1121>(N0JY). Due to
the American International Traffic in Arms Regulations
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Traffic_in_Arms_Regulations>
(ITAR) you must be either a US Citizen or a permanent resident (ITAR
Qualifications
<http://www.amsat.org/www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/itar/p120.htm>). This
is not our reflection on foreign citizens, but is required by existing US
law. Recent changes suggest that this restriction may soon be lifted or at
least modified. If and when this happens, we will be delighted to be able
to again work freely with our foreign colleagues.
> >
> > This is only for working directly on our satellite projects and is due
to US federal law. It is certainly not a reflection of our feelings towards
non-Americans. We would love for anyone worldwide to be able to work on any
AMSAT project without restriction.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Paul, N8HM
> >
> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 10:20 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
<mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> > Sorry I can?t help you
> >
> > Your own website states I must be a US citizen to Volunteer
> >
> > That must mean they don?t trust non yanks
> >
> > Andrew
> >
> > ------------------------------------------
> > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> > m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx <mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:15 PM, Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
<mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> > >
> > > By the way
> > >
> > > My name is Andrew
> > >
> > > It would be a good start to get that right
> > >
> > > Andrew
> > >
> > > ------------------------------------------
> > > Andrew Rich VK4TEC
> > > w www.tech-software.net <http://www.tech-software.net/>
> > > m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx <mailto:vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:20 AM, E.Mike McCardel <mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Okay, Rich has stepped up and offered to help. Anyone else?
> > >> Not an IT guy/gal volunteer to do something else.
> > >> Believe me, it even takes time to respond to offers of help when you
are buried in your work. So I little patience please.
> > >>
> > >> EMike
> > >>
> > >> EMike McCardel, AA8EM
> > >> Rotating Editor AMSAT News Service
> > >> Sent from my iPhone
> > >>
> > >>> On Sep 24, 2016, at 8:38 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
active
> > >>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you
should look
> > >>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I
went to
> > >>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until
(insert
> > >>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
never
> > >>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this
is the
> > >>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
website
> > >>> up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
> > >>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members
for
> > >>> bringing this up.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process
of an
> > >>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would
just
> > >>> call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey
mouse. I
> > >>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Peter,
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
> > >>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Dave-KB1PVH
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx
<mailto:plaws0@xxxxx.xxx>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/ <http://store.amsat.org/catalog/>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
> > >>>>> the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
happens
> > >>>>> slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK
- no
> > >>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
store,
> > >>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
past,
> > >>>>> off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or
> > >>>>> something.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> --
> > >>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
> > >>>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA
makes this open forum available
> > >>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > >>>> Opinions
> > >>>>> expressed
> > >>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of
> > >>>>> AMSAT-NA.
> > >>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > >>>> program!
> > >>>>> Subscription settings:
http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> > >>>> _______________________________________________
> > >>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA
makes this open forum available
> > >>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions
> > >>>> expressed
> > >>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of
> > >>>> AMSAT-NA.
> > >>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> > >>>> Subscription settings:
http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> > >>> _______________________________________________
> > >>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA
makes this open forum available
> > >>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> > >>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
> > >>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> > >>> Subscription settings:
http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> > >> _______________________________________________
> > >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA
makes this open forum available
> > >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> > >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of AMSAT-NA.
> > >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> > >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> > >
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA
makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
of AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
> > > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx <mailto:AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>. AMSAT-NA makes
this open forum available
>
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb>
> >
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
>
------------------------------
Message: 5
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 15:05:36 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: volunteer@xxxxx.xx
Cc: andy thomas via Amsat-Bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Web site
Message-ID: <F7B56E93-0889-42B0-88F5-0E23B76AC312@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hello
My name is Andrew rich
I have been a licences ham since my teens
I have been involved in every aspect of ham radio except balloon launches
My commercial back ground is
Web page design
Manual writing
Teaching
Electronics store manager
Telecom carrier tech specialist
Radar and ATC tech specialist
My hobbies are wide and varied
Web site design
Web hosting
Programming
Micro controller programming
Linux programming
Software defined radio
Satellites
Aviation listening voice and data
ADSB
Satellite ground stations
PCB manufacture
Circuit design
Antenna building
Drone operations
ATV
SSTV
Digital modes
APRS
Helping my dad run aviation conferences
Publicity officer radio club
Perl programming
Online interactive satellite pages
I would be honoured to help amsat
Andrew
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e vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 25 Sep 2016 15:11:53 +1000
From: Andrew Rich <vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Seriously - can this be updated?
Message-ID: <7A3E9CBE-65FE-4894-9D45-251ED1D621B8@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
That's always the way Jerry you have to see past it
My wife volunteers for the cats and dogs
For her
Andrew
-----------------------------
Sent from my iPhone
Andrew Rich
e vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
w www.tech-software.net
m 0419 738 223
> On 25 Sep 2016, at 12:40, Jerry Buxton <n0jy@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Sorry, volunteering is volunteering. We get an occasional pat on the
> back, if we can reach behind us that far. ;-)
>
> Jerry Buxton, N?JY
>
>> On 9/24/2016 21:14, Andrew Rich wrote:
>> How much is an AMSAT membership ?
>>
>> Can I get one in return for doing the web pages
>>
>> Andrew
>>
>> ------------------------------------------
>> Andrew Rich VK4TEC
>> w www.tech-software.net
>> m vk4tec@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On 25 Sep 2016, at 11:41 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> The bottom line is that we currently do not have sufficient volunteer
>>> resources to make the website what we would like it to be. I do what I can
>>> to post news and update certain sections when necessary, but I am not a
web
>>> designer. While I consider myself quite technically competent, I am not an
>>> IT person either.
>>>
>>> We need AMSAT members to step up and volunteer to maintain and improve on
>>> our web presence. There is no doubt that it is a critical need. Anyone who
>>> wishes to volunteer should contact a senior officer describing your skill
>>> set and what you are interested in volunteering to do.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73,
>>>
>>> Paul Stoetzer, N8HM
>>> Secretary
>>> Radio Amateur Satellite Corporation (AMSAT-NA)
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 9:29 PM, sean fay <spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> The AMSAT Store is closed for an upgrade.
>>>>
>>>> The AMSAT Store will reopen on or before Sept 15. Call (301) 822-4376
>>>> between 10AM and 6PM USA Eastern time for immediate assistance.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The website is not up to date.
>>>>
>>>> It its 9/24 and its not open.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The member ship page links to page that does not work, it should just
have
>>>> a number to call to join instead of a link to a non working store.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have zero idea how many people become members in a given week, but
there
>>>> will be people turned off by this and wont join ever because of a little
>>>> oversight like this. UX is a big deal in the modern world. I am pro
AMSAT
>>>> converting every website visitor to a member. as I was just a website
>>>> visitor. I joined and then apparently my father joined cause he is my
>>>> elmer and all i seem to care about is AMSAT stuff so hes gonna add it to
>>>> his ops. Every member represents more potential members because of
vocal
>>>> advocacy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Its not pedantic, its reality.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The real issue is that someone brought this up as a legitimate concern
>>>> about UX and someone told them that if it bothers them to stop looking
at
>>>> it...... if you were staffing the office and someone said "oh hey, by the
>>>> way. I was on the site, and it said your site would be back up by the
15th
>>>> and its the 25th now, just letting you know" would you say "if it bothers
>>>> you quit looking at it?"
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> We are all members, we are all advocates, and when our yearly
membership is
>>>> up we are again potentional members as we have to make a decision to
renew.
>>>> don't be that person who causes a person to not renew their membership
>>>> because people in the club or group or organization are jerky
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> QUOTED
>>>>
>>>> the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security
>>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while the
>>>> changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by calling
>>>> martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
>>>>
>>>> 73...bruce
>>>>
>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>>>
>>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay
<spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
active
>>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
look
>>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I
went to
>>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until (insert
>>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
never
>>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
the
>>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
website
>>>> up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>>> bringing this up.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of an
>>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just
>>>> call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse. I
>>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 8:09 PM, Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> the website is up todate. paypal made a change in their security
>>>>> processing of our orders and required us to comply. it is down while
the
>>>>> changes are being made. you can order anything from the store by
calling
>>>>> martha at the office. orders are still being processed that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> 73...bruce
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone <https://yho.com/footer0>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Saturday, September 24, 2016, 7:38 PM, sean fay <
>>>> spatrickfay@xxxxx.xxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> As an former outsider looking in. If I am looking to join a group of
>>>> active
>>>>> amateurs involved with satellite work and someone said "hey you should
>>>> look
>>>>> at AMSAT, they are the ones who put those things up in space" and I went
>>>> to
>>>>> the website and I saw a very out of date "store is inactive until
(insert
>>>>> date that is way past due)" i would assume that AMSAT is defunct and
>>>> never
>>>>> look back. At best I would not believe the person that told me this is
>>>> the
>>>>> organization that puts stuff in space if they can't even keep their
>>>> website
>>>>> up to date. It is this kind of thing that discourages new members.
>>>>> There is also zero reason members should be attacking other members for
>>>>> bringing this up.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I how ever would not be discouraged if i saw "we are in the process of
an
>>>>> upgrade. please call Martha for assistance" with no date. I would just
>>>>> call Martha. Having an out of date date looks super mickey mouse.
I
>>>>> am with Peter and Andrew on this
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Sep 24, 2016 at 1:57 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Stop looking at the page if it bothers you that much. What's with the
>>>>>> constant nit-picking about EVERYTHING?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Sent from my Galaxy S7
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 24, 2016 2:13 PM, "Peter Laws" <plaws0@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://store.amsat.org/catalog/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I'm not trying to criticize the people doing the work on remodeling
>>>>>>> the store. Stuff happens and without a full-time IT staff, it
>>>> happens
>>>>>>> slowly. I get it. It's fine. More time is needed and that's OK -
>>>> no
>>>>>>> one is going to die and if you *really* need something from the
>>>> store,
>>>>>>> you can call the office (where there is a full-time staff person!).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> But for goodness' sake, can we take the date, now >1 week in the
>>>> past,
>>>>>>> off the placeholder page? Just put "closed for remodeling" or
>>>>>>> something.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Peter Laws | N5UWY | plaws plaws net | Travel by Train!
>>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>>>> available
>>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>>> Opinions
>>>>>>> expressed
>>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>>> of
>>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>>> program!
>>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/
>>>> listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>>> Opinions
>>>>>> expressed
>>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>>>> of
>>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>>> program!
>>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>>> Opinions
>>>>> expressed
>>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>>> program!
>>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions
>>>> expressed
>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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