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Today's Topics:

   1. ANS-276 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins (Joseph Spier)
   2. Re: SO-50 Quirk (Clint Bradford)
   3. HF Nets (Matthew Stevens)
   4. Re: HF Nets (Greg D)
   5. QSO Protocol (Joe)
   6. Re: QSO Protocol (Paul Stoetzer)
   7. Re: QSO Protocol (Jim Jerzycke)
   8. Re: QSO Protocol (Jeff Yanko)
   9. Re: QSO Protocol (Graham Shirville)
  10. Re: QSO Protocol (Paul Stoetzer)
  11. Re: QSO Protocol (Norm n3ykf)
  12. Re: QSO Protocol (Clayton W5PFG)
  13. Re: QSO Protocol (Jeff Yanko)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 21:47:38 -0700
From: Joseph Spier <wao@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx ans@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-276 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-276
The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* NuSat-1 Issued Oscar Number LO-87
* Pratham Satellite Launched, Heard, and Identified
* AO-7 Mode A
* BATC Convention Includes Satellite Topics
* ARRL to Host CHIRP Radio Programming Webinar
* NASA Next Magazine for Teens and Educators
* Sign Up for NASA Education 'Science WOW!' Weekly Email Newsletter
* AMSAT Events
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts From All Over

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-276.01
ANS-276 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 276.01
 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE October 2, 2016
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-276.01


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NuSat-1 Issued Oscar Number LO-87


The Argentine ?uSAT-1 carrying the LUSEX (LU Satellite Experiment)
Amateur Radio U/V linear transponder and 436 MHz beacon launched
May 30 at 0317 UTC from China. The transponder, with a 30 kHz
bandwidth and transmitting with 250 mW, will has an uplink passband
(SSB, CW) at 435.935~435.965 MHz, and a downlink passband at
145.965~145.935 MHZ. Basic CW telemetry is transmitted on 145.900 MHz.
The NuSAT-1 GFSK telemetry beacon is at 436.445 MHz, and the NuSAT-2
GFSK telemetry beacon is at 437.445 MHz. Over the past month
AMSAT-Argentina has requested the issuance of an OSCAR designation.
After review, the following determination has been announced:

"I join the entire world in wishing this spacecraft a successful life
and, under the authority vested in me by the AMSAT-NA President, do
hereby issue LUSEX the designation LUSEX OSCAR 87 or LO-87."

73,
William A. (Bill) Tynan, W3XO
OSCAR Number Administrator

See
http://lusex.org.ar/


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information]


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AlSat-1N and Pratham Satellites Launched, Heard, and Identified


The AlSat-1N and Pratham satellites, both with amateur radio payloads,
launched on the Indian ISRO PSLV-C35 mission at 0342 GMT on Monday,
September 26, 2016, reports are requested.

Update Sept 27: The AlSat-1N signal has been received but nothing heard
from Pratham. A Dorset radio amateur reports receiving a signal from PISAT
(2240 MHz) which was also on the PSLV-C35 launch
https://twitter.com/uhf_satcom/status/780808329392168960

Update Sept 29: Reports on AMSAT-BB indicate the Pratham CW beacon on
145.980 MHz is active.
http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-September/060551.html
http://www.amsat.org/pipermail/amsat-bb/2016-September/060552.html

The 3U CubeSat AlSat-1N was built in collaboration between the Algerian
Space Agency (ASAL), UK Space Agency (UKSA), Surrey Space Centre (SSC)
staff and Algerian students as a technology transfer and demonstrator
for Algeria.

AlSat-1N is also hosting three UK payloads from various institutions and
aims to take images of the Earth and send back data from the UK payloads.

The IARU coordinated downlink is 437.650 MHz 9k6 FSK.

Any downlinked data will be gratefully received at alsatnano@xxxxx.xxx
Both decoded hex files and recordings would be greatly appreciated. Richard
Duke M0GSN is transmission authority in the UK under the SSC Club callsign
M0GKK.

Further information on AlSat-1N can be downloaded from:

https://ukamsat.files.wordpress.com/2016/09/alsat-1n_description_v1.pdf
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/24/alsat-1n-pratham-launch/

Information on the Pratham student satellite is at
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/07/pratham-student-satellite/

Detailed doppler measurements show that Pratham is object 41791,
2016-059J.

This is based on the most recent TLE sets, that were published by
the JSpOC. Unfortunately the collection of TLE sets for the PSLV-C35
launch is not stable yet. The JSpOC continues to cross-tag TLE sets
and to make major changes to some of the TLE sets. So some further
changes may be expected in the coming days.

The JSpOC has not yet identified any of the objects from the PSLV-C35
launch. It seems quite obvious however that ScatSat is object 41790,
2016-059H.


[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK, AMSAT-BB, and Nico, PA0DLO, for the above information]


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AO-7 Mode A


Noted on the AMSAT-BB:
It appears that AO-7 switched to Mode A between 0400 and 0600 UTC today
9/30/2016. That suggests that the satellite is now in constant sunlight
and receiving enough power from the solar cells for the 24 hour timer to
stay on throughout it's entire orbit. Expect daily mode switches between
Mode A and Mode B to occur for the next three months or so.

As AO-7's orbit precesses and the periods of constant sunlight become fewer
and fewer, there will be less of an opportunity to use Mode A on a yearly
basis, so enjoy it while it lasts!

If you don't have a 10 meter antenna up to receive the downlink, try
whatever you can. I have used my AlexLoop Walkham Portable Magnetic Loop
with adequate results.

[ANS thanks Paul Stoetzer, N8HM AMSAT-NA Secretary for the above
information]


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BATC Convention Includes Satellite Topics


The British Amateur Television Club hosted a number of presentations
covering the latest equipment, modes and operating techniques (including
satellite topics) at the Convention for Amateur Television 2016 (CAT 16) at
Cosford on 24/25 September.

The satellite presentation slides and videos included:

Receiving and Presenting HamTV from the ISS
Noel Matthews, G8GTZ

Es'hail-2: Geostationary transponder for DATV
Graham Shirville, G3VZV and Dave Crump, G8GKQ

Links to the slides and video recordings are available on-line at:
https://wiki.batc.tv/Presentations_from_CAT_16


[ANS thanks the BATC for the above information]


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ARRL to Host CHIRP Radio Programming Webinar


ARRL will host a CHIRP Radio Programming webinar on Wednesday, October 19,
at 8 PM ET (0000 UTC on Thursday, October 20, in US time zones). This
presentation will offer a brief overview of the free, open-source CHIRP
software, which can be used to program most radios.

The site at http://chirp.danplanet.com/projects/chirp/wiki/Home explains
what the CHIRP software does.

Attendees will learn: What CHIRP is, which radios are supported, how to get
CHIRP, and how to troubleshoot CHIRP. Presenter James Lee, N1DDK, became
active in CHIRP development for the initial TYT9800 driver. He is a hardware
development engineer for Qualcomm.

Register now at https://attendee.gotowebinar.com/register/693479953177190401

After registering, you will receive a confirmation e-mail containing
information about joining the webinar.


[ANS thanks the ARRL for the above information]


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NASA Next Magazine for Teens and Educators


NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Greenbelt, Maryland, recently released
the second issue of its new online news magazine for teens and educators
called "NASA Next."

"NASA Next" breaks down complex science and brings its audience the latest
news on Goddard science, including studies of Earth, the sun, our solar
system and the universe. "NASA Next" is interactive with clickable links to
other NASA web pages, so readers can learn more about the missions and
technologies they come across.

The magazine includes articles, fun facts, activities and a For Educators
page filled with lesson plans to help incorporate "NASA Next" into the
classroom. Educators and scientists review all lesson plans to ensure that
the content is accurate and useful in an educational setting and that it
meets national and state standards of learning.

For more information and to download the latest issue, visit
http://www.nasa.gov/feature/goddard/2016/nasa-announces-new-issue-of-nasa-
next-online-news-for-teens-educators.

If you have questions about "NASA Next," please email your inquiries to
Sarah Schlieder at sarah.schlieder@xxxx.xxx.


[ANS thanks NASA Education Express Message -- Sept. 29, 2016 for the above
information]


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Sign Up for NASA Education 'Science WOW!' Weekly Email Newsletter


Are you a science educator or interested in science education? Sign up for
the NASA Education "Science WOW!" mailing list. Receive an email with NASA's
latest science education offerings delivered "Weekly on Wednesdays."

Science starts with a question, and so does "Science WOW!" Each week's
message kicks off with a science question and a link to where you can find
the answer. "Science WOW!" also highlights an awesome science education tool
each week. These featured resources will include NASA apps, interactive
games, 3-D printing templates and more!

Plus, "Science WOW!" delivers -- right to your inbox -- the latest science
education opportunities offered by NASA. It's a simple way to keep up with
the latest professional development webinars, student contests, workshops,
lectures and other activities.

To register your email address and be added to the list, visit
https://www.nasa.gov/education/sciencewow/


[ANS thanks NASA Education Express Message -- Sept. 29, 2016 for the above
information]


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AMSAT Events


Information about AMSAT activities at other important events around
the country.  Examples of these events are radio club meetings where
AMSAT Area Coordinators give presentations, demonstrations of working
amateur satellites, and hamfests with an AMSAT presence (a table with
AMSAT literature and merchandise, sometimes also with presentations,
forums, and/or demonstrations).

*Friday and Saturday, 21-22 October 2016 ? CopaFest 2016, south of
Maricopa AZ

*Saturday, 12 November 2016 ? Oro Valley Amateur Radio Club Hamfest in
Marana AZ

*Saturday, 3 December 2016 ? Superstition Superfest in Mesa AZ

*Saturday, 14 January 2017 ? Thunderbird Hamfest 2017 in Phoenix AZ

*Saturday, 4 February 2017 ? Palm Springs Hamfest in Palm Springs CA

*Friday-Sunday, 10-12 February 2017   Orlando HamCation in Orlando, FL

*Friday and Saturday, 17-18 February 2017 ? Yuma Hamfest in Yuma AZ


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information]


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ARISS News


Successful Contacts

*  C.E.PR. Almad?n, Ja?n, Spain, direct via EA7URJ or TBD
The ISS callsign was OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut was Kate Rubins KG5FYJ
Contact was successful: Thu 2016-09-15 08:14:19 UTC

*  Yamanashi Gakuin J. H. School, Kofu, JapanA direct via 8J1YGJH
The ISS callsign was NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut was Takuya Onishi KF5LKS
Contact was successful: Sat 2016-10-01 08:11:36 UTC 31 deg.

Yamanashi Gakuin Junior High School is located in Kofu, Yamanashi
Prefecture.
Yamanashi Gakuin was founded in 1946. the current junior high school opened
in 1996 on its 50th anniversary.  The school has three grades and and
enrollment of 244 students.

Yamanashi Gakuin was successful. They asked 16 questions and got 16 answers
from Takuya. Signal condition not so good.
Audience: 60
Newspapers: 3


Upcoming Contacts

*  Sekolah Kebangsaan Jalan Pasar 1, Kuala  Lumpur, Malaysia, direct via
9M2RPN
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled  to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Takuya Onishi KF5LKS
Contact is a  go for: Thu 2016-10-06 18:24:00 UTC 46 deg.

The school is invited by National Space Agency Satellite Ground Station
with a call sign of 9M2RPN in conjunction with "National Space Challenge
Prime Minister's Trophy 2016" as in past years.
Total of students: 746 students
Total of teachers: 43 teachers

*  iSPACE, Cincinnati OH,  telebridge via IK1SLD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Kate Rubins KG5FYJ
Contact is a go for: Sat  2016-10-08 16:15:10 UTC 57 deg.

In 2001, iSPACE, a 501(c)(3) organization, incorporated as a STEM (science,
technology, engineering and math) educational resource for schools
throughout
the Greater Cincinnati region. The iSPACE mission is to make STEM learning
exciting and to promote STEM career awareness, through interactive programs
for students, educators and families in the region.  iSPACE provides
innovative and effective programs, events and learning experiences for
students
(grades pre-K?12), their educators and their families including field
trips,
outreach, professional development and other programs that stimulate
interest
and appreciation for STEM. In 2015, iSPACE programs served a diverse
population of 24,731 youth and 5,791 adults in more than 500 schools.
iSPACE works diligently to collaborate within the regional and their
programs are recognized for their effectiveness throughout the STEM
community.
Through rigorous alignment to national and state standards and the
utilization
of best practices, iSPACE continues to develop curriculum for educators and
inquiry?-based educational opportunities for students.  iSPACE has made a
mark in Greater Cincinnati for our high quality programs that measurably
and
effectively inspire students in science, technology, engineering and
mathematics, increase their content knowledge and introduce them to
STEM careers.

Watch
http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html
for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled.


[ANS thanks ARISS, Dave, AA4KN, and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information]


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Satellite Shorts From All Over


VP5/AA4FL Practice Run

Gearing up for a VP5 visit and operation Oct. 16 - Nov. 2.  Will be part of
VP5DX CQWW SSB team but still have time for portable SAT operations.  I
worked 9 stations in a practice run from the University of Florida campus a
few weeks ago.  I should be able to operate SATs from Oct. 19-28.
Equipment will be a FT-817 and arrow II.  Will also have a TH-D7A as a
backup for the FM birds. Practice runs were on AO-73 and FO-29 using the
FT-817.

I will have another practice day on Sunday Oct. 9th. Please mark your
calendar and work me that day from EL-89tp.  My signal will be readable but
not strong, which I am sure you will not mind when I am the DX station you
are chasing.  I will use that day as a teaching experience for the Gator
Amateur Radio Club student members.  You can see photos from our last event
on their Facebook page.  Feel free to friend me as well.

I have been told it has been ten years since there has been a SAT operation
from VP5.  My operation will not be from Provo (FL31) but from Middle
Caicos (FL41cu).  Check out the QTH on the VP5DX QRZ page. Do any AMSAT
members have FL41 in their log?

Looking forward to working you from FL41cu.

[ANS thanks Jay, AA4FL for the above information]


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In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Joe Spier, K6WAO
k6wao at amsat dot org


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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2016 18:23:52 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SO-50 Quirk
Message-ID: <EF8C3372-F0F5-47D0-83DB-F4C280D48F65@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

>> ...  If you start talking immediately, the first letter or two of your
callsign will not be heard.

Gawd - it is like the Yaesu WIRES function in radios ... (grin)

More than a decade later, and we're still adding to the "operating hints and
tips" for SO-50!

Clint K6LCS

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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 11:34:48 -0400
From: Matthew Stevens <matthew@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] HF Nets
Message-ID: <BA03D0F0-0EEE-43B3-9F4F-3C140831F0AC@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Are any of the Amsat HF nets still running? There's a few listed on the
website, just wondered if that info was current.

- Matthew KK4FEM

Sent from my iPhone

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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 08:46:31 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Matthew Stevens <matthew@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HF Nets
Message-ID: <57F12BD7.20107@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Keith W5IU and Larry W7LB still run the Amsat Net on Sunday, 1900 UTC on
14.282.

Greg  KO6TH


Matthew Stevens wrote:
> Are any of the Amsat HF nets still running? There's a few listed on the
website, just wondered if that info was current.
>
> - Matthew KK4FEM
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 15:37:25 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] QSO Protocol
Message-ID: <acaeb2ae-b1f6-ec96-8c0d-8631e29604dd@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

What is the standard for a minimal contact of what must be exchanged for
a valid QSO?

Joe WB9SBD
--
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com


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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 16:39:29 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QSO Protocol
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOoL4jqJBcF4ROvNQDvC_7L_qUmhsCutxADaFZsF6beLfg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Callsign + one additional piece of info (grid square, signal report,
location, name, etc).

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sunday, October 2, 2016, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> What is the standard for a minimal contact of what must be exchanged for a
> valid QSO?
>
> Joe WB9SBD
> --
> Sig
> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
> Idle Tyme
> Idle-Tyme.com
> http://www.idle-tyme.com
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 20:45:06 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QSO Protocol
Message-ID: <b6412df7-94c0-eebf-539e-dd746fe93f11@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Callsign and signal report?


Maybe name and grid square?


Jim  KQ6EA


On 10/02/2016 08:37 PM, Joe wrote:
> What is the standard for a minimal contact of what must be exchanged
> for a valid QSO?
>
> Joe WB9SBD



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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 14:31:45 -0700
From: Jeff Yanko <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QSO Protocol
Message-ID: <3eb479a7-bff9-8275-1fb1-5d718d75236e@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Callsign and grid square is all that is needed, plus the time, (UTC).
Signal report on any birds isn't necessary.

BTW, signal reports aren't needed for HF QSO under WAS or DXCC.


73,

Jeff  WB3JFS


On 10/2/2016 1:37 PM, Joe wrote:
> What is the standard for a minimal contact of what must be exchanged
> for a valid QSO?
>
> Joe WB9SBD



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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 22:38:22 +0100
From: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Jeff Yanko" <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>,	"AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QSO Protocol
Message-ID: <622A389265B04A8D9E1BCA42ADB2CCD0@xxxxxxx.xxxxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi Jeff,

Here in IARU Region 1 we agreed a definition of a valid QSO  sometime back
for VHF and above.

They are shown in this extract  
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/may2007/qso_definition.htm

I suspect that such definitions have probably not yet been elaborated in the
other two IARU Regions

73

Graham
G3VZV

-----Original Message-----
From: Jeff Yanko
Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 10:31 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QSO Protocol

Callsign and grid square is all that is needed, plus the time, (UTC).
Signal report on any birds isn't necessary.

BTW, signal reports aren't needed for HF QSO under WAS or DXCC.


73,

Jeff  WB3JFS


On 10/2/2016 1:37 PM, Joe wrote:
> What is the standard for a minimal contact of what must be exchanged
> for a valid QSO?
>
> Joe WB9SBD

_______________________________________________
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 17:51:56 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Jeff Yanko <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QSO Protocol
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOrTkbHR43gNuQbBhCSqUixv2OEUgDYuC2DPeAmPe=qsLg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Grid square isn't required. Time certainly isn't needed in any exchange
(except for BARTG RTTY contest).

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Sunday, October 2, 2016, Jeff Yanko <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> Callsign and grid square is all that is needed, plus the time, (UTC).
> Signal report on any birds isn't necessary.
>
> BTW, signal reports aren't needed for HF QSO under WAS or DXCC.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Jeff  WB3JFS
>
>
> On 10/2/2016 1:37 PM, Joe wrote:
>
>> What is the standard for a minimal contact of what must be exchanged for
>> a valid QSO?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 18:04:09 -0400
From: Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QSO Protocol
Message-ID:
<CAJUhCTMDjDdUMdjAVVTULdJtNvVOQ4-Zfg-8CY+0mOya_8Z=rA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

The Europeans like to use the Maidenhead sub grid identifier as well.
I.E. FK91pg

Listen directionally.

n3ykf

On Sun, Oct 2, 2016 at 5:38 PM, Graham Shirville
<g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Here in IARU Region 1 we agreed a definition of a valid QSO  sometime back
for VHF and above.
>
> They are shown in this extract  
http://www.southgatearc.org/news/may2007/qso_definition.htm
>
> I suspect that such definitions have probably not yet been elaborated in
the other two IARU Regions
>
> 73
>
> Graham
> G3VZV
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Yanko
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 10:31 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QSO Protocol
>
> Callsign and grid square is all that is needed, plus the time, (UTC).
> Signal report on any birds isn't necessary.
>
> BTW, signal reports aren't needed for HF QSO under WAS or DXCC.
>
>
> 73,
>
> Jeff  WB3JFS
>
>
> On 10/2/2016 1:37 PM, Joe wrote:
>> What is the standard for a minimal contact of what must be exchanged
>> for a valid QSO?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 17:04:18 -0500
From: Clayton W5PFG <w5pfg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QSO Protocol
Message-ID: <1f0baa87-e2b4-f50f-641d-8946c2ecd195@xxxxx.xxx>
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If you want to make a lot of friends, I would suggest providing your
twelve digit grid square as part of the exchange. Make sure the other
station repeats it back to you in its entirety. That way you know you're
in the log and you had a clean QSO.

73
Clayton
W5PFG

On 10/2/2016 15:45, Jim Jerzycke wrote:
> Callsign and signal report?
>
>
> Maybe name and grid square?
>
>
> Jim  KQ6EA
>
>
> On 10/02/2016 08:37 PM, Joe wrote:
>> What is the standard for a minimal contact of what must be exchanged
>> for a valid QSO?
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD


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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2016 15:07:31 -0700
From: Jeff Yanko <wb3jfs@xxx.xxx>
To: Graham Shirville <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>,	AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QSO Protocol
Message-ID: <84cdeb9c-b320-f190-7f0a-d1886be87bea@xxx.xxx>
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Hi Graham,

That's the first I've heard of an IARU standard for a QSO, not saying
there isn't any.  Interesting.  Does the IARU issue awards in which you
submit QSO data to them to obtain?


73,

Jeff  WB3JFS




On 10/2/2016 2:38 PM, Graham Shirville wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
>
> Here in IARU Region 1 we agreed a definition of a valid QSO sometime
> back for VHF and above.
> They are shown in this extract
> http://www.southgatearc.org/news/may2007/qso_definition.htm
> I suspect that such definitions have probably not yet been elaborated
> in the other two IARU Regions
> 73
> Graham
> G3VZV
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Jeff Yanko
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2016 10:31 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] QSO Protocol
> Callsign and grid square is all that is needed, plus the time, (UTC).
> Signal report on any birds isn't necessary.
> BTW, signal reports aren't needed for HF QSO under WAS or DXCC.
> 73,
> Jeff  WB3JFS
> On 10/2/2016 1:37 PM, Joe wrote:
> > What is the standard for a minimal contact of what must be exchanged
> > for a valid QSO?
> >
> > Joe WB9SBD
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