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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: LilacSat-2 is ON!!!!! (Stephen  E. Belter)
   2. Re: LilacSat-2 is ON!!!!! (Ted)
   3. SATPC32 Error Code 1925 (Frank Westphal)
   4. Re: Software Problems (Joe)
   5. HEO opertunity (Nick Pugh)
   6. Re: SATPC32 Error Code 1925 (Daniel Cussen)
   7. Re: SATPC32 Error Code 1925 (Mike)
   8. IARU Sat Spectrum + ESEO Sat Update (M5AKA)
   9. Re: HEO opertunity (Zach Leffke)
  10. Re: HEO opertunity (Paul Stoetzer)
  11. [Video] ISS Ham Radio Broke! (John Brier)
  12. Outernet L-Band now carries AMSAT and ARISS weekly	bulletins
      (Robert Bruninga)


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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 02:22:42 +0000
From: "Stephen  E. Belter" <seb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: Ted <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>, 'Perry Yantis' <py41@xxx.xxx>,
'Amsat BB'	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 is ON!!!!!
Message-ID: <D432E7D5.77A8B%seb@xxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

Ted,

I use this website to get up-to-the-minute reports on satellite status,
including LilacSat-2 and AO-7 (mode A or B):
amsat.org/status

Is there some reason it doesn?t work for you?

73, Steve N9IP
--
Steve Belter, seb@xxxxxx.xxx



On 10/23/16, 7:29 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Ted"
<amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx on behalf of k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

>Hi Perry, any update on its current status?
>
>Thanks, Ted
>K7TRK
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Perry
>Yantis
>Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 5:15 AM
>To: Amsat BB
>Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 is ON!!!!!
>
>LilacSat-2 is on today!!!!!! Perry WB8OTH
>
>py41@xxx.xxx
>sent from my Apple Macbook Pro
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 18:43:21 -0700
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Stephen  E. Belter'" <seb@xxxxxx.xxx>, "'Perry Yantis'"
<py41@xxx.xxx>,	"'Amsat BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 is ON!!!!!
Message-ID: <000001d22d98$02cf61b0$086e2510$@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"

Steve,

Was there a link you meant to attach?   I don't see it

If it was the 'Oscar site' that where people report on their activity, I am
familiar with that but it is only as good as the input.

So, I chose to ask Perry direct based on his post from June. I find that
info on this board is more timely and accurate.

Is there some reason that doesn?t work for you?

73, Ted
K7TRK

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Stephen E.
Belter
Sent: Sunday, October 23, 2016 7:23 PM
To: Ted; 'Perry Yantis'; 'Amsat BB'
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 is ON!!!!!

Ted,

I use this website to get up-to-the-minute reports on satellite status,
including LilacSat-2 and AO-7 (mode A or B):
amsat.org/status

Is there some reason it doesn?t work for you?

73, Steve N9IP
--
Steve Belter, seb@xxxxxx.xxx



On 10/23/16, 7:29 PM, "AMSAT-BB on behalf of Ted"
<amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx on behalf of k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:

>Hi Perry, any update on its current status?
>
>Thanks, Ted
>K7TRK
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Perry
>Yantis
>Sent: Saturday, June 25, 2016 5:15 AM
>To: Amsat BB
>Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-2 is ON!!!!!
>
>LilacSat-2 is on today!!!!!! Perry WB8OTH
>
>py41@xxx.xxx
>sent from my Apple Macbook Pro
>_______________________________________________
>Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>Opinions expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect
>the official views of AMSAT-NA.
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>
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>to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>of AMSAT-NA.
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_______________________________________________
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interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 20:02:28 -0700
From: Frank Westphal <k6fw1@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 Error Code 1925
Message-ID: <c474312b-ab91-5de2-8db9-e290a7870304@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed

On two of my windows 7 computers I have not been able to install SatPC32
because I get the error message that I do not have administrator
privileges.  I only have one account on these machines and it is an
administrator account.  On other machines I do not get this error
message.  Do you know what causes this error and how to work around it?
I have been told to right click on the setup.exe file an run as an
administrator, but that option does not appear on my computer. Using
latest version of SATPC32.

Thanks,

Frank
K6FW


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2016 22:56:25 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Software Problems
Message-ID: <15a42a1f-7839-77e6-c45b-d5bf21c9d0bb@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Well it was only temporary.

It's back to two programs and web agree, the other two are way off.

I'm not gonna fight on them for now. Worry about them after AO-7 goes
back to non Mode "A" modes 90% of the time.

BUT I do want to ask anyone, that is Oscar-7 mode "A" capable, I'd like
to try some schedules with anyone while we still have predictability on
when it will be in Mode "A"

This predictability will be going away soon. In a little over a month or
so? 12/07/2016?

I'm looking for anyone, that can do Mode "A" CW.

Drop me a note.

Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 10/23/2016 8:05 PM, Mike Sprenger wrote:
> Joe,
>
> We want you on the sats with us enjoying radio stuff !
>
> Glad you found success with the software.
>
> Thanks,
> Mike
> W4UOO
>
>> On Oct 23, 2016, at 2:47 PM, Joe <nss@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> YEA!
>>
>> OK, Here we go I got all of them to say the same thing.
>>
>> OK The original two still agree, and agree with that web page.
>>
>> SatPC32 it took the offset from Auto to manually entering for me now -5,
and Boom it too matches now.
>>
>> Orbitron, Not sure whats still happening there. But if I tell it to load
TLE's and choose the one from say the Sat look down set, and use that, it
then asks to load new ones even tho that one is lie just now refreshed. if I
say yes, bad out put.  But if i choose to lead the sat look down one from
nasabare, and say NO when orbitron wants to update, then it also matches!
>>
>> Like crazy huh?
>>
>> And again EVERYONG! THANKS!!!
>>
>> Awesome group of people here!
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
>> Sig
>> The Original Rolling Ball Clock
>> Idle Tyme
>> Idle-Tyme.com
>> http://www.idle-tyme.com
>>> On 10/23/2016 1:36 PM, Tom schuessler wrote:
>>> Another point to mention in SatPC32 is to set up is to make sure that
you have the correct time offset. In the settings observer dialogue you
either need to manually set your offset or use the "auto" setting to
properly track DST/non-DST time. Else manually set it to minus whatever your
offset is for non-DST and one hour or less for DST. The "Half an orbit off"
issue probably is as much related to this setting as anything.  I normally
set the offset manually then have to remember the next time I open after the
DES P change to fix it again.
>>>
>>> Tom N5HYP
>>> _______________________________________________
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
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AMSAT-NA.
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>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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AMSAT-NA.
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>
>



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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 01:38:33 -0500
From: "Nick Pugh" <quadpugh@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] HEO opertunity
Message-ID: <05ad01d22dc1$3e5fa7c0$bb1ef740$@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

Hello AMSAT-ers

The University of Louisiana has a slot on a  ULA mission to GTO launch to
GTO for a 1u. WE are asking the community what payload should we fly, how to
mitigate the radiation and who wants to help the students?



http://www.ulalaunch.com/ula-announces-2016-cubesat-stem-winners.aspx?title=
United+Launch+Alliance+Announces+CubeSat+STEM+Education+Program+Winners
<http://www.ulalaunch.com/ula-announces-2016-cubesat-stem-winners.aspx?title
=United+Launch+Alliance+Announces+CubeSat+STEM+Education+Program+Winners&Cat
egory=News> &Category=News





 73's and see you on the baot

nick k5qxj





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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 13:46:23 +0100
From: Daniel Cussen <dan@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 Error Code 1925
Message-ID:
<CAF3DnKhRVNcBz_1_AniXCMsmS4SAm+juCyJh80EyJkk76Ejr3Q@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

to run the setup program under Windows 7  right click on the file name
"Setup". In the list that opens choose the option "Run as administrator".

You need to find the file itself using windows explorer. It will be in
a folder called SATPC32 normally under program files. If you do not
have the option then when right clicking, try holding the shift key
while right clicking.

Another option is to right click and change the properties and under
privileges/compatibility or similar try choose run as administrator.

E.g.:
Navigate to the program folder of the program you want to run. ...
Right-click the program icon (the .exe file).
Choose Properties.
On the Compatibility tab, select the Run This Program As An
Administrator option.
Click OK.
If you see a User Account Control prompt, accept it.


On 24/10/2016, Frank Westphal <k6fw1@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> On two of my windows 7 computers I have not been able to install SatPC32
> because I get the error message that I do not have administrator
> privileges.  I only have one account on these machines and it is an
> administrator account.  On other machines I do not get this error
> message.  Do you know what causes this error and how to work around it?
> I have been told to right click on the setup.exe file an run as an
> administrator, but that option does not appear on my computer. Using
> latest version of SATPC32.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Frank
> K6FW


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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 09:46:52 -0400
From: Mike <mvivona@xxxxx.xxx>
To: dan@xxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SATPC32 Error Code 1925
Message-ID: <2E4D1816-FF53-49A6-B23F-F98605848854@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

Another option is to simply log in as the user "Administrator". Even though
your current user has administrative privileges Windows-7 and greater has
reserved some of the underlying properties from all but the official
built-in "Administrator".
It comes generically disabled.

To enable the built-in administrator account, follow these steps:
Click Start, type cmd in the Start Search box, and then press Enter.

Note If you are prompted for an administrator password or for confirmation,
type the password, or provide confirmation.
In the search results list, right-click Command Prompt, and then click Run
as Administrator.
When you are prompted by User Account Control, click Continue.
At the command prompt, type net user administrator /active:yes, and then
press Enter.
Type net user administrator <Password>, and then press Enter.

Note In this command, <Password> represents the actual password that you
want to set for the administrator account.
Type exit, and then press Enter.
Log off the current user account.
Michael KC4ZVA
Sent from my iPhone

> On Oct 24, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Daniel Cussen <dan@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> to run the setup program under Windows 7  right click on the file name
> "Setup". In the list that opens choose the option "Run as administrator".
>
> You need to find the file itself using windows explorer. It will be in
> a folder called SATPC32 normally under program files. If you do not
> have the option then when right clicking, try holding the shift key
> while right clicking.
>
> Another option is to right click and change the properties and under
> privileges/compatibility or similar try choose run as administrator.
>
> E.g.:
> Navigate to the program folder of the program you want to run. ...
> Right-click the program icon (the .exe file).
> Choose Properties.
> On the Compatibility tab, select the Run This Program As An
> Administrator option.
> Click OK.
> If you see a User Account Control prompt, accept it.
>
>
>> On 24/10/2016, Frank Westphal <k6fw1@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> On two of my windows 7 computers I have not been able to install SatPC32
>> because I get the error message that I do not have administrator
>> privileges.  I only have one account on these machines and it is an
>> administrator account.  On other machines I do not get this error
>> message.  Do you know what causes this error and how to work around it?
>> I have been told to right click on the setup.exe file an run as an
>> administrator, but that option does not appear on my computer. Using
>> latest version of SATPC32.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Frank
>> K6FW
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 15:17:46 +0000 (UTC)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] IARU Sat Spectrum + ESEO Sat Update
Message-ID: <1401795064.2935168.1477322266277@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

IARU issue Amateur-Satellite Service spectrum requirements
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/10/24/iaru-amateur-satellite-spectrum/

ESEO FM transponder satellite October 2016 Update
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/10/23/eseo-update-october-2016/

ISS Columbus ham radio HT inoperative
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/10/21/iss-columbus-ham-radio-ht-inoperative/

Video - A Geosynchronous Ham Radio Satellite
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/10/15/a-geosynchronous-ham-radio-satellite/

Join AMSAT-UK
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/09/27/autumn-fall-oscar-news/


73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 11:20:46 -0400
From: Zach Leffke <zleffke@xx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HEO opertunity
Message-ID: <37002d2a-412b-18f5-617f-6d2b861083d9@xx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Given my recent interest and the previous thread on 'deep space
tracking,'  a linear transponder on a HEO bird could offer an
interesting 'test bird' to conducting ranging operations and orbit
determination with.  It is more 'deep space like' than the current LEO
birds, but is still in earth orbit and can be modeled with TLEs (so that
we can check against NORAD updates to see how 'good' we are doing).

If the design is similar to what will be used on the CQC bird (or at
least an approximation that could work in a 1U), then we (as in the
amateur satellite community) could test out the required earth station
hardware / backend processing for something like this, as well as get
vital training for future missions such as the CQC bird and potential
other HEO missions.

Couple of points to back up the idea:

1.  I'm guessing a 1U in HEO is probably tough power budget wise, so
link budgets will probably be tight.  PN sequence ranging (in my limited
understanding of the subject) requires way less SNR than normal
communications and data transfer since your just looking for
correlations against the known PN sequence, so it is maybe viable given
a tighter link budget.

2.  A 5GHz up/10 GHz down payload is probably not viable in a 1u (link
budgets, size constraints, etc).  So, something like a 23cm up, 70cm
down bent pipe transponder would be interesting.  The problem here will
likely be community 'backlash' in that L-band uplink stations are less
common in the Amateur Community.  I would offer the argument of 'use it
or lose it' to help protect the 23cm uplink band, and also the fact that
AMSAT is planning an L-Band uplink for two of the 5 foxes (including 1E
which will be a linear transponder).  So maybe having another 23cm
uplink bird will interest people in adding a band to their station (if
two birds isn't enough, maybe three is?).  If L-Band up is too hard to
swallow, then a 2m up/70cm down bent pipe in HEO would still be
interesting, compatible with most Amateur ground stations, and could
still be used to test ranging operations.

3.  Heavy Forward Error Correction on a separate low rate TLM downlink
would probably be a good idea (like AO-73, again due to probably tight
power budget).

4.  training, Training, TRAINING!  I know AMSAT has conducted ranging on
their own in the past, but its been a while.  There are probably new
members in the community that would like to get into this sort of thing
and learn this type of skill (I include myself in that list), and the
folks that have done it before could help train up a younger/newer
generation of AMSAT folks, which would help protect the 'technical
leadership in the field of small sats' future of AMSAT.


I have no good answer for the radiation part of your question. Also, I'd
love to help out the students, but have my hands full here with our own
students at VT.


Just throwing out an idea for a payload.......

Congrats on getting a ride!


-Zach, KJ4QLP

Research Associate
Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology
Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
Work Phone: 540-231-4174
Cell Phone: 540-808-6305

On 10/24/2016 2:38 AM, Nick Pugh wrote:
> Hello AMSAT-ers
>
> The University of Louisiana has a slot on a  ULA mission to GTO launch to
> GTO for a 1u. WE are asking the community what payload should we fly, how to
> mitigate the radiation and who wants to help the students?
>
>
>
> http://www.ulalaunch.com/ula-announces-2016-cubesat-stem-winners.aspx?title=
> United+Launch+Alliance+Announces+CubeSat+STEM+Education+Program+Winners
> <http://www.ulalaunch.com/ula-announces-2016-cubesat-stem-winners.aspx?title
> =United+Launch+Alliance+Announces+CubeSat+STEM+Education+Program+Winners&Cat
> egory=News> &Category=News
>
>
>
>
>
>   73's and see you on the baot
>
> nick k5qxj
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 11:38:57 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Zach Leffke <zleffke@xx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] HEO opertunity
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOqXcn-ZwvjPJt2eLhC2GyY56g9jw7nAQbWbU2tAQbV_Lw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Some sort of linear transponder would be an ideal payload, even if you'd
need a really darn good station to use it (usage of low bit rate digital
modes through the transponder could help). The last ULA launch to GTO that
I could find orbit details for was to 35,789 km x 3,830 km with a 19 degree
inclination. A transponder may only be usable by the best equipped stations
at apogee, but many more stations could use it at perigee.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Mon, Oct 24, 2016 at 11:20 AM, Zach Leffke <zleffke@xx.xxx> wrote:

> Given my recent interest and the previous thread on 'deep space
> tracking,'  a linear transponder on a HEO bird could offer an interesting
> 'test bird' to conducting ranging operations and orbit determination with.
> It is more 'deep space like' than the current LEO birds, but is still in
> earth orbit and can be modeled with TLEs (so that we can check against
> NORAD updates to see how 'good' we are doing).
>
> If the design is similar to what will be used on the CQC bird (or at least
> an approximation that could work in a 1U), then we (as in the amateur
> satellite community) could test out the required earth station hardware /
> backend processing for something like this, as well as get vital training
> for future missions such as the CQC bird and potential other HEO missions.
>
> Couple of points to back up the idea:
>
> 1.  I'm guessing a 1U in HEO is probably tough power budget wise, so link
> budgets will probably be tight.  PN sequence ranging (in my limited
> understanding of the subject) requires way less SNR than normal
> communications and data transfer since your just looking for correlations
> against the known PN sequence, so it is maybe viable given a tighter link
> budget.
>
> 2.  A 5GHz up/10 GHz down payload is probably not viable in a 1u (link
> budgets, size constraints, etc).  So, something like a 23cm up, 70cm down
> bent pipe transponder would be interesting.  The problem here will likely
> be community 'backlash' in that L-band uplink stations are less common in
> the Amateur Community.  I would offer the argument of 'use it or lose it'
> to help protect the 23cm uplink band, and also the fact that AMSAT is
> planning an L-Band uplink for two of the 5 foxes (including 1E which will
> be a linear transponder).  So maybe having another 23cm uplink bird will
> interest people in adding a band to their station (if two birds isn't
> enough, maybe three is?).  If L-Band up is too hard to swallow, then a 2m
> up/70cm down bent pipe in HEO would still be interesting, compatible with
> most Amateur ground stations, and could still be used to test ranging
> operations.
>
> 3.  Heavy Forward Error Correction on a separate low rate TLM downlink
> would probably be a good idea (like AO-73, again due to probably tight
> power budget).
>
> 4.  training, Training, TRAINING!  I know AMSAT has conducted ranging on
> their own in the past, but its been a while.  There are probably new
> members in the community that would like to get into this sort of thing and
> learn this type of skill (I include myself in that list), and the folks
> that have done it before could help train up a younger/newer generation of
> AMSAT folks, which would help protect the 'technical leadership in the
> field of small sats' future of AMSAT.
>
>
> I have no good answer for the radiation part of your question. Also, I'd
> love to help out the students, but have my hands full here with our own
> students at VT.
>
>
> Just throwing out an idea for a payload.......
>
> Congrats on getting a ride!
>
>
> -Zach, KJ4QLP
>
> Research Associate
> Ted & Karyn Hume Center for National Security & Technology
> Virginia Polytechnic Institute & State University
> Work Phone: 540-231-4174
> Cell Phone: 540-808-6305
>
>
> On 10/24/2016 2:38 AM, Nick Pugh wrote:
>
>> Hello AMSAT-ers
>>
>> The University of Louisiana has a slot on a  ULA mission to GTO launch to
>> GTO for a 1u. WE are asking the community what payload should we fly, how
>> to
>> mitigate the radiation and who wants to help the students?
>>
>>
>> http://www.ulalaunch.com/ula-announces-2016-cubesat-stem-win
>> ners.aspx?title=
>> United+Launch+Alliance+Announces+CubeSat+STEM+Education+Program+Winners
>> <http://www.ulalaunch.com/ula-announces-2016-cubesat-stem-wi
>> nners.aspx?title
>> =United+Launch+Alliance+Announces+CubeSat+STEM+Education+
>> Program+Winners&Cat
>> egory=News> &Category=News
>>
>>
>>
>>   73's and see you on the baot
>>
>> nick k5qxj
>>
>>
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Message: 11
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 12:06:03 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] [Video] ISS Ham Radio Broke!
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https://youtu.be/mhfQiVqZkts

The Ericsson MP-A handheld radio in the Columbus module used for most
school contacts recently started displaying an error message and is no
longer working. In the meantime, the Kenwood TM-D700 radio in the
Russian Service Module will be used for all school contacts. The good
thing about this is the Kenwood is a mobile radio and is more powerful
than the Ericsson, so it's much easier to hear. That's why the signal
was so strong at only 3 degrees in this video. One of the bad things
about this is the Ericsson powered the packet digipeater, so it's
temporarily offline.

This is my reception of astronaut Takuya Onishi onboard the
International Space Station talking to the Howell L. Watkins Middle
School in Palm Beach Gardens FL.

I received this in Raleigh, North Carolina, on Monday October 17th, 2016.

73, John Brier KG4AKV


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Message: 12
Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2016 09:53:00 -0400
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Outernet L-Band now carries AMSAT and ARISS weekly
bulletins
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The Outernet L-band feed is now carrying a condensed version of the AMSAT
and ARISS weekly news files.  (Global Geosat coverage except for Northern
Alaska)...

Receivers are simple:  http://aprs.org/outnet.html

For ARISS, I manually added a 2 char grid square to each school listed in
the school schedule and am asking the outernet folks to parse out that
location info and plot a 1200 km footprint on their weather globe showing
where people can tune in the ARISS contacts.  Then their RTL-SDR dongle
could then actually be retuned to hear the contact.  Just an idea...

Bob, WB4APR

-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Dani
EA4GPZ
Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2016 7:36 AM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] New Outernet L-Band service...

>> I hope someday a service like this will be available
>>  from an AMSAT geostationary service.

> I'm pretty confident that the guys at AMSAT-DL are capable
>  of doing this much better on the upcoming EsHail'2
> than what Outernet is currently doing on Inmarsat...

> They already have in mind a "DVB-S beacon"...  broadcast
> from the ground station at Qatar ... carrying videos
> about Ham radio and Ham radio events on this signal.

> What is more, if you have equipment to operate EsHail'2 on SSB,
> it's more or less easy to use either the narrowband transponder
> or the wideband transponder to transmit an Outernet-type signal
> through EsHail'2, so anyone can have a go with this.

> Outernet uses 4200baud BPSK and half of the bitrate is spent for FEC.
> You can use a bit less bitrate to get a signal that will even pass
> through a conventional 2.7kHz SSB filter and you can use less
> bits for FEC to get increased data throughput (but more SNR required).

> Dani EA4GPZ.


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