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Today's Topics:
1. Low Noise RF Sensing Preamps (Fred Castello)
2. Extra - Extra - Read all about it - LVB Tracker (Bruce)
3. Re: FT-736 CAT Cable & Rotor controller (Albert van Deursen)
4. Re: FT-736 CAT Cable & Rotor controller (Jim Jerzycke)
5. Re: FT-736 CAT Cable & Rotor controller (Ted)
6. Donations to AMSAT... smile (Bruce)
7. Statistics 6 Grid activated (weekend) (David Maciel (XE3DX))
8. Pile Up FO-29 on EK57 (David Maciel (XE3DX))
9. Yopp! First satellite QSO (almost!) (Todd W. Deckard)
10. Re: Yopp! First satellite QSO (almost!) (andy thomas)
11. Re: 434 MHz balloon from the UK over the plains states of the
US : amateurradio (Robert Bruninga)
12. Re: 434 MHz balloon from the UK over the plains states of the
US : amateurradio (M5AKA)
13. Re: 434 MHz balloon from the UK over the plains states of the
US : amateurradio (Robert Bruninga)
14. AO73 special YOTA Fitter message + UK Balloon UBSED21 (M5AKA)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 16:08:02 -0500
From: Fred Castello <fredcastello@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT bbs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Low Noise RF Sensing Preamps
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Hi Folks,
I am in need of two RF sensing preamps one for 2 meters and one for 70
cms. If you have either that you would be willing to sell/part with,
please contact me through my email at : fredcastello@xxxxx.xxx.
Thanks so much for your time!
Best,
Fred-KF4FC
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 15:18:27 -0600
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Extra - Extra - Read all about it - LVB Tracker
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Extra - Extra - Read all about it
I stocked the shelves at the AMSAT Online Store with LVB Tracker
Complete. A limited number are available.
Shipments will not go out until after Christmas due to long lines at the
post office. There is no choice in the color of the LED, some are Blue
and some are Amber. You get what is in the box when shipped.
Do not forget, these make great stocking stuffers and under the tree
gifts. Although you will have to box a card saying one is on the way
after Christmas.
73...bruce
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Bruce Paige, KK5DO
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018
ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
http://www.arrl.org
AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat
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Message: 3
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 23:21:24 +0100
From: "Albert van Deursen" <avdeur@xxxx.xx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FT-736 CAT Cable & Rotor controller
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Hi Jeff,
Further to the discussion on the fake chips etc can only recommend to go for
the real stuff. No cheap FTDI imitations nor Prolific ones as I was running
constantly into a lot of (driver) problems. Long story but after some time
of driver problems decided to throw all cheap(er) ones out and go for the
100% real. Since than zero problems. Have the FT-736,FT-817 and IC-910 all
connected this way at the same time to HRD. All my problems were gone once I
decided to only use the original FTDI sets as eg advertised e.g. on
http://www.g4zlp.co.uk/unified/YaesuCAT.shtml.
73
Albert
PD0OXW
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Message: 4
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 22:40:24 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FT-736 CAT Cable & Rotor controller
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I still get mine on eBay, but look for vendors that state they have
GENUINE Prolific or FDTI chips.
73, Jim KQ6EA
On 12/19/2016 10:21 PM, Albert van Deursen wrote:
> Hi Jeff,
> Further to the discussion on the fake chips etc can only recommend to go for
> the real stuff. No cheap FTDI imitations nor Prolific ones as I was running
> constantly into a lot of (driver) problems. Long story but after some time
> of driver problems decided to throw all cheap(er) ones out and go for the
> 100% real. Since than zero problems. Have the FT-736,FT-817 and IC-910 all
> connected this way at the same time to HRD. All my problems were gone once I
> decided to only use the original FTDI sets as eg advertised e.g. on
> http://www.g4zlp.co.uk/unified/YaesuCAT.shtml.
> 73
> Albert
> PD0OXW
>
>
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Message: 5
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 14:40:44 -0800
From: "Ted" <k7trkradio@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Albert van Deursen'" <avdeur@xxxx.xx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FT-736 CAT Cable & Rotor controller
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FYI,
The cables from RT Systems also work flawlessly. You can get cables with or
without programming software
http://www.rtsystemsinc.com/
73, K7TRK
-----Original Message-----
From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Albert van
Deursen
Sent: Monday, December 19, 2016 2:21 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FT-736 CAT Cable & Rotor controller
Hi Jeff,
Further to the discussion on the fake chips etc can only recommend to go for
the real stuff. No cheap FTDI imitations nor Prolific ones as I was running
constantly into a lot of (driver) problems. Long story but after some time
of driver problems decided to throw all cheap(er) ones out and go for the
100% real. Since than zero problems. Have the FT-736,FT-817 and IC-910 all
connected this way at the same time to HRD. All my problems were gone once I
decided to only use the original FTDI sets as eg advertised e.g. on
http://www.g4zlp.co.uk/unified/YaesuCAT.shtml.
73
Albert
PD0OXW
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Message: 6
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 17:01:43 -0600
From: Bruce <kk5do@xxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Donations to AMSAT... smile
Message-ID: <ff0878f8-79da-348d-a575-aed2d57036c3@xxxx.xxx>
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As you place orders for the holiday season, if you use Amazon.com,
please remember that you can place your order at smile.amazon.com and a
percentage of your order will be donated to AMSAT.
I just placed another order on Amazon and used smile.amazon.com as I
usually do. I had not noticed before, on the main smile.amazon.com
webpage, under the search window is a "Supporting Radio Amateur
Satellite Corporation" showing who my donations go to. Hover your mouse
over the wording and a pop up will show you how much your orders have
generated for AMSAT. If you click in the pop up window on "Your
AmazonSmile impact", it will show you how much everyone's orders have
contributed to AMSAT.
My orders alone have given AMSAT $33.09 and all of the other people that
have used smile.amazon.com have given $1,325.93
That is not bad for not doing anything except ordering what you normally
would.This could really be used as a no load fund raiser. It costs AMSAT
nothing to receive a donation and it costs the person ordering from
Amazon nothing to choose AMSAT as their supporting charity. It is a
win/win for everyone.
remember.... smile.amazon.com to place your amazon orders. You can place
everything in your cart at amazon.com, just remember to go to
smile.amazon.com when you are ready to check out.
73...bruce
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Bruce Paige, KK5DO
AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018
ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
http://www.arrl.org
AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat
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Message: 7
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 17:43:20 -0600
From: "David Maciel (XE3DX)" <david.xe3dx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Grupo Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Statistics 6 Grid activated (weekend)
Message-ID:
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Today I finish the work by different rare grids of the southeast of Mexico,
some of difficult access and zones of jungle, thanks to the stations that
were listening to my trip.
151 stations worked, in 6 activated Grids ( 4 Days )
EK37-EK47 = 42 stations (line)
EK57 = 38 stations
EK48 = 38 stations
EK37 = 06 stations (Many work before online EK37-EK47)
EK38 = 12
EK27 = 15
151 Workstations.
* Contacts will be on LoTW tonight, please if you do not use LoTW do not
send QSL card, first check on http://www.qsl.net/xe3dx/ or
https://www.qrz.com/lookup/xe3dx if you are in the log.
David Maciel XE3DX
*http://www.qsl.net/xe3dx/ <http://www.qsl.net/xe3dx/>*
*david.xe3dx@xxxxx.xxx <david.xe3dx@xxxxx.xxx>*
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Message: 8
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 19:19:58 -0600
From: "David Maciel (XE3DX)" <david.xe3dx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Grupo Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Pile Up FO-29 on EK57
Message-ID:
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EK57 give a big Pile Up on FO-29, I could only work 19 stations, many
others not listen.
Thanks, I had a lot of fun.
https://soundcloud.com/w5pfg/fo-29-2016-12-17-1600z-xe3dx-ek57
Thanks Clay W5PFG for Recording
David Maciel XE3DX
*http://www.qsl.net/xe3dx/ <http://www.qsl.net/xe3dx/>*
*david.xe3dx@xxxxx.xxx <david.xe3dx@xxxxx.xxx>*
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 20:13:40 -0600
From: "Todd W. Deckard" <twdeckard@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Yopp! First satellite QSO (almost!)
Message-ID: <AD0DCF80-CEEA-4288-B0D1-033568B2A173@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Finally tried transmitting into a 43 degree pass for SO-50 and was heard by
two stations (K8YSE/Y and W0DHB)!
Unfortunately they never heard my response; but I be smothering myself
transmitting from inside the snow covered sun room. Might also be poor
microphone technique.
https://youtu.be/O5nFwU_wl18 <https://youtu.be/O5nFwU_wl18>
Still, enough progress to encourage ? Arizona/Colorado from Minnesota ? a
thousand miles and 50F.
73
KE0CMD
Todd
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Message: 10
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 19:21:04 +0000 (UTC)
From: andy thomas <andythomasmail@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: Amsat Bulitin Board <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Yopp! First satellite QSO (almost!)
Message-ID: <1747110306.975016.1482261664667@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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You're doing well! SO-50 can be hard to get into, but you were heard. Well
done!
73 de andy g0sfj
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Message: 11
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 14:29:01 -0500
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 434 MHz balloon from the UK over the plains
states of the US : amateurradio
Message-ID: <14e98914ec2f6fb9f6d51ed53a559351@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Just heard it on my mobile, (Im in Annapolis MD) but the radio says the
balloon is 115 mi NE (probably over NJ) No Course and Speed.
The radio was on 145.825, the ISS frequency! At 1420 or so EST.
Call is AD6AM-13
Bob
On Tue, Dec 20, 2016 at 11:56 AM, W4TGA <radio.w4tga@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Forwarded the info to Ken in Annapolis. He should start hearing the beacon
in the next 30 minutes. He will advise if he hears anything.
bk
On Dec 20, 2016, at 10:23 AM, Olive, George <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
I miss read it. It is ad6am-13
George Olive
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Sent from my phone. I blame all misspellings, errors, and inappropriate
replies on the phone.
On Dec 20, 2016 10:13 AM, "Steve Garrison" <steve.n4tty@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Is adam6 a valid call sign? I guess you can beacon anything you want, but
to be legal wouldn't it need to be a valid call sign?
Steve G./N4TTY
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 20, 2016, at 10:05 AM, Olive, George <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
The call is adam6-13 I think
George Olive
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Sent from my phone. I blame all misspellings, errors, and inappropriate
replies on the phone.
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: "Olive, George" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Date: Dec 20, 2016 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: 434 MHz balloon from the UK over the plains states of the US :
amateurradio
To: "Barry Kanne" <radio.w4tga@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc:
I think the call is adam6-13
George Olive
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Sent from my phone. I blame all misspellings, errors, and inappropriate
replies on the phone.
On Dec 20, 2016 10:01 AM, "Olive, George" <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
There was a link in the first or second comment that went to aprs.fi and
tracked it
George Olive
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Sent from my phone. I blame all misspellings, errors, and inappropriate
replies on the phone.
On Dec 20, 2016 9:27 AM, "W4TGA" <radio.w4tga@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Would be helpful if we knew the callsign being beaconed so we could track
it on APRS.FI <http://aprs.fi/>. Any way to find out?
bk
On Dec 20, 2016, at 7:09 AM, Steve Garrison <steve.n4tty@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
434.610 using Contestia 16/1000 (I think).
Keep us posted if you hear it!!
Steve G./N4TTY
Sent from my iPhone
On Dec 19, 2016, at 10:25 PM, Olive, George <george@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
It seems there is a high altitude British balloon over the use. It is
currently around Nebraska coming east.
The title in this link is also a link to a map. Also there is aprs info in
the comments.
I would guess maybe sometime tomorrow or the next day it might be in range
of GA
https://www.reddit.com/r/amateurradio/comments/5javjt/434_mhz_balloon_from_the
_uk_over_the_plains/
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Message: 12
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 20:53:31 +0000 (UTC)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: "AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>, "bruninga@xxxx.xxxx
<bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 434 MHz balloon from the UK over the plains
states of the US : amateurradio
Message-ID: <1645603066.1094804.1482267211699@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Bob, the students included 145.825 in the hope of being digipeated via the
ISS. Unfortunately that digipeater is no longer operating so they've been
hoping one of the other APRS sats on 145.825 may pick it up.
Info at https://amsat-uk.org/2016/12/09/ubseds21-145-825-aprs/
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 13
Date: Tue, 20 Dec 2016 17:21:52 -0500
From: Robert Bruninga <bruninga@xxxx.xxx>
To: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>, AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] 434 MHz balloon from the UK over the plains
states of the US : amateurradio
Message-ID: <e5cd47400b1452c663ac7ba1689cb7a8@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
AMSATs in New England and Cape Cod!
You?ll be the last to get hits from the balloon. It is now (1700 EST) out
south of Nantucket and heading east. Got one hit from an IGate in Boston.
Should have a few more hours range to good Oscar stations?
Its on 145.825. Call is AD6AM-13
bob
*From:* M5AKA [mailto:m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xxx
*Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2016 3:54 PM
*To:* AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxxx bruninga@xxxx.xxx
*Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] 434 MHz balloon from the UK over the plains
states of the US : amateurradio
Bob, the students included 145.825 in the hope of being digipeated via the
ISS. Unfortunately that digipeater is no longer operating so they've been
hoping one of the other APRS sats on 145.825 may pick it up.
Info at https://amsat-uk.org/2016/12/09/ubseds21-145-825-aprs/
73 Trevor M5AKA
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 12:48:12 +0000 (UTC)
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 special YOTA Fitter message + UK Balloon
UBSED21
Message-ID: <876184133.484743.1482324492350@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Look out for the special Fitter message today from the FUNcube-1 AO73
satellite to the 6th Staines Scouts, Cubs and Beavers who are hosting
GB16YOTA for Youngsters On The Air Month.
If you see it Tweet it back to the Chertsey Radio Club @xxxxxxxxxx
Youngsters On The Air with Chertsey Radio Club
https://www.facebook.com/amsatuk/photos/a.555434137832973.1073741826.208113275
898396/1244757552233958/?type=3&theater
Newspaper report on Pratham student satellite returning to life
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/12/20/pratham-returns-to-life/
Keep tracking the UK student Around-The-World balloon UBSEDS21 434MHz + APRS
now approaching the final leg of it's journey
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/12/09/ubseds21-145-825-aprs/
73 Trevor M5AKA
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