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Today's Topics:

   1. Now Is The Time (Martha)
   2. Re: W1AW/5 - Texas (Clint Bradford)
   3. W1AW/5 SO50 frm TX (Tom schuessler)
   4. Antenna suggestions (Keith McDonnell)
   5. Re: Antenna suggestions (Dave Webb KB1PVH)
   6. two out of three ain;t bad. (Rick Tejera)
   7. Re: two out of three ain;t bad. (Gus)
   8. Re: two out of three ain;t bad. (Gus)
   9. Re: two out of three ain;t bad. (Lizeth Norman)
  10. Re: Antenna suggestions (Lizeth Norman)
  11. Re: two out of three ain;t bad. (Erich Eichmann)
  12. Re: Antenna suggestions (Stefan Wagener)
  13. Re: two out of three ain;t bad. (Thomas Doyle)
  14. W1AW/4 TN em55 (wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxxx
  15. Re: Antenna suggestions (Dino Papas)
  16. Send your name / callsign "from the Moon" (M5AKA)


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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 11:37:38 -0400
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Now Is The Time
Message-ID:
<CAPk0USwD3w5zLjLojbzP42bwEaJB9vBeGwzu42-zPUaXMw5h=A@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

People - It is time to make your plans to attend the 2014 AMSAT Space
Symposium and celebrate our 45th Anniversary.

The event takes place October 10- 12th at the DoubleTree located at the BWI
Airport *(Baltimore) .*  Right now SouthWest is having a sale.

For more information, go to the AMSAT website (amsat.org).  Hope to see you
there!

--
73- Martha


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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 09:02:13 -0700
From: Clint Bradford <clintbrad4d@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] W1AW/5 - Texas
Message-ID: <DD2B9033-712E-41D8-BCA7-9E61762DC6BC@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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>> ... Starting at 0000Z, 10 September, W1AW/5 will operate the satellites
from Texas.


And don't forget - Saturday, 09/13/14 at 10:45AM Texas time / 8:43AM PDT -
Scout
leader extraordinaire Tom N5HYP will have his Scouts working towards Merit
Badges
as they work SO-50 as K2BSA/5. It will be a 50+-degree pass for them ...

Clint K6LCS

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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 13:42:23 -0500
From: Tom schuessler <tjschuessler@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/5 SO50 frm TX
Message-ID: <26CF0A3E-7128-4BD6-96BC-2A7925F3C796@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii


I tried a 0550Z SO 50 pass this morning 9/10 as W1AW / five but there was
nobody on but me. I tried a1605Z pass this morning and only made two Qs. Bad
Desense due to lots of other RF in the area making it hard for my radio to
hear.

I am willing to be on For a 0615 Z pass this coming morning if I knew some
other people would be awake and willing as well. Please let me know via this
BB.

Tom. N5HYP




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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 15:45:35 -0400
From: Keith McDonnell <kg2ix@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Antenna suggestions
Message-ID: <DCD4D66A-19B3-4844-9D5A-0D2B32C2CE3A@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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I am about to upgrade my antenna system which now is only a pair of
Eggbeaters.
I would like to get a 2 meter C.P. and a 70 cm C.p. Yagi.
I alread have a g5400b az/el rotor.
I have looked into the Hygain oscar link system, M2's offerings as well as
Gulf Alpha antennas.
If anyone has any experience with these, or others, i would appreciate your
comments. You may email me directly.
Thank you and good health to all. 73, keith
Kg2ix@xxxxxxxxx.xxx


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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 16:23:44 -0400
From: Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Keith McDonnell <kg2ix@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna suggestions
Message-ID:
<CAEMY9FcoqjGgxTiSZ71TOZ8nrN7dbSrGPWSs5u-oZF2HHTRs_w@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
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Keith,

I'm not sure if Gulf Alpha is still making the satellite antennas. He had
something on his website saying that he wasn't going to build them and even
if he was to build them, you will wait a minimum of 4 months regardless of
what timeframe he tells you.

Dave-KB1PVH

Sent from my Samsung S4


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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 18:06:46 -0700
From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] two out of three ain;t bad.
Message-ID: <00cf01cfcd5c$a8639ea0$f92adbe0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

All,



A little help with SAT pc 32. I just started to play around with decode the
NOAA weather sats. I want to get the frequencies into the dopper.sqf file so
I can see the Doppler correction. I've edited the file and only two of the
three sats show the frequency. The format is the same for all three:



NOAA 15,137620.0,,FM,,,,

NOAA 18,137910.0,,FM,,,,

NOAA 19,137100.0,,FM,,,,



NOAA 15 is the culprit that won't show.



I've looked with a fine tooth comb for any differences and don't see any. I
also looked in the KEp file for the Weather & NOAA sats and the sat name is
correct.  Anyone see what I'm missing.



Rick Tejera

Saguaro Astronomy Club

www.saguaroastro.org

Thunderbird Amateur radio Club (K7TEJ)

www.w7tbc.org





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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:18:04 -0400
From: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] two out of three ain;t bad.
Message-ID: <5411065C.7020102@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 09/10/2014 09:06 PM, Rick Tejera wrote:
> Anyone see what I'm missing.

Do a hex dump of the file so you can see what's invisible (like control
characters, etc).

--
Gus 8P6SM
The Easternmost Isle



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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 22:21:31 -0400
From: Gus <gus@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] two out of three ain;t bad.
Message-ID: <5411072B.7040708@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

On 09/10/2014 09:06 PM, Rick Tejera wrote:
> Anyone see what I'm missing.
Use this

     http://www.fileformat.info/tool/hexdump.htm

to do the hex dump, if you don't have anything better...

--
Gus 8P6SM
The Easternmost Isle



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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:27:53 -0400
From: Lizeth Norman <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
Cc: "<,amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxxxxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] two out of three ain;t bad.
Message-ID:
<CAJUhCTMAqv_Qg_H9TmSSRpce835=+6gZruNcu7cJf1c+COq+fQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Rick,
There is something very unusual going on here. Satpc32 does not like
certain letter formats. Not sure just what's going on. Humor me. Open
whichever TLE file you're referencing. (Those satellites are listed
MORE than one TLE. Ask me how I know.) Copy and paste the satellite
name from the TLE to DOPPLER.SQF.
I have the WX sats in their own "group" referenced to the "NOAA" TLE.
BTW: the last character (unprintable) in each line is a carriage
return/ line feed (0d0ah), supplied by hitting "enter" on your
keyboard. That is the "end of string" character that the parsing
routine loading DOPPLER.SQF is looking for. No end of line character,
it throws away the data. (I think..)
Norm n3ykf

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 9:06 PM, Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> All,
>
>
>
> A little help with SAT pc 32. I just started to play around with decode the
> NOAA weather sats. I want to get the frequencies into the dopper.sqf file so
> I can see the Doppler correction. I've edited the file and only two of the
> three sats show the frequency. The format is the same for all three:
>
>
>
> NOAA 15,137620.0,,FM,,,,
>
> NOAA 18,137910.0,,FM,,,,
>
> NOAA 19,137100.0,,FM,,,,
>
>
>
> NOAA 15 is the culprit that won't show.
>
>
>
> I've looked with a fine tooth comb for any differences and don't see any. I
> also looked in the KEp file for the Weather & NOAA sats and the sat name is
> correct.  Anyone see what I'm missing.
>
>
>
> Rick Tejera
>
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
>
> www.saguaroastro.org
>
> Thunderbird Amateur radio Club (K7TEJ)
>
> www.w7tbc.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 10 Sep 2014 23:52:56 -0400
From: Lizeth Norman <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna suggestions
Message-ID:
<CAJUhCTNUhujeJCGUw5njFhwQt5uYpJc1f+qxHEzg9kAcH=AAaQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

If you're buying anything from M2 expect poor customer service and a
bad build. I have more to do tonight than list the screwups those
people have done. They actually charged my credit card and THEN 2.5
months later (after finishing another manufacturing cycle) shipped the
product (upgrade kit for a KLM kt-34a)!!! Not to mention having to use
a dremel on the "CNC" hardware. The UHF antennas use a cheap white
plastic insulator that cracks, allowing water ingress. Remember the
$200 circularity switch that you need to buy? Junk after 7 years.
See here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/n3ykf/11312549334/
Considering what these people charge, I'd expect teflon.

Because I'm a glutton for punishment, I purchased another antenna from
this bunch of rejects (These bozos actually had the balls to cancel
two credit card orders for parts!). It was cheaper than ordering one
from Europe. I guess at $800, lasting 7 years, it's just over $100 a
year to use this, then throw it away.

The antenna has 21 pair of elements. 14 pair (!!!!!!) were miscut. 13
by 1/16 and one by an 1/8. (I took pictures because I care!!!) That's
a real problem where the elements of the antenna are 1/16 th of an
inch different (most). Took me almost two hours to verify what they'd
done and decide that regardless of what screwups they'd made, it was
going together.
Seems to work. I've no way to test it other than swr and on air usage.

Take care to read the Gulf Alpha page. Last I looked, the satellite
antennas were out of production and he was reserving parts/service for
original owners, only.


On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Keith,
>
> I'm not sure if Gulf Alpha is still making the satellite antennas. He had
> something on his website saying that he wasn't going to build them and even
> if he was to build them, you will wait a minimum of 4 months regardless of
> what timeframe he tells you.
>
> Dave-KB1PVH
>
> Sent from my Samsung S4
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb


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Message: 11
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 10:53:24 +0200
From: Erich Eichmann <erich.eichmann@xxxxxxxx.xx>
To: Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] two out of three ain;t bad.
Message-ID: <54116304.7020501@xxxxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed

Hi Rick,
in the file Doppler.SQF change  the name of  NOAA 15 to NOAA-15 (insert
a  minus char instead of the space  in the satellite name). The program
then should display the frequency for that satellite.

The reason that SatPC32 doesn't show  the frequency if you use "NOAA 15"
but shows the frequencies of "NOAA 18" and "NOAA 19" in Doppler.SQF  is
a bit complicated:
Handling of the satellite names is difficult because the source files
for Keplerian data (SpaceTrack files, Celestrak files, nasa.all) often
use different spellings of the satellite names. Usually the Amsat names
(used in nasa.all) are much more handy than - for example - the
Celestrak names.

Therefore SatPC32 can optionally convert the satellite names of the
source file to their  AMSAT name, provided  an AMSAT name is available.
In menu "Satellites" > "Sat Names" you can choose the option "Use AMSAT
Names if Available".  I suppose you are using this option since it is
the default setting.

With this option the program identifies a satellite by its catalogue
number or international designator and then checks, whether the aux.
file "AmsatNames.SQF" (that can be opened from menu "?" > "Auxiliary
Files") contains an entry for that satellite.  If so, the program uses
that name in menu "Satellites" and expects that spelling in the other
aux. files - for example in "Doppler.SQF", "Prior.SQF" etc.

The aux. file "AmsatNames.SQF" currently contains an entry for NOAA 15
with the spelling "NOAA-15", it doesn't contain entries for NOAA 18 and
NOAA 19. Therefore it expects
"NOAA-15" in Doppler.SQF but accepts the original spellings NOAA 18  and
NOAA 19.

So, if you want to add new satellites to the program have also a look to
file "AmsatNames.SQF".

73s, Erich, DK1TB

Am 11.09.2014 03:06, schrieb Rick Tejera:
> All,
>
>
>
> A little help with SAT pc 32. I just started to play around with decode the
> NOAA weather sats. I want to get the frequencies into the dopper.sqf file so
> I can see the Doppler correction. I've edited the file and only two of the
> three sats show the frequency. The format is the same for all three:
>
>
>
> NOAA 15,137620.0,,FM,,,,
>
> NOAA 18,137910.0,,FM,,,,
>
> NOAA 19,137100.0,,FM,,,,
>
>
>
> NOAA 15 is the culprit that won't show.
>
>
>
> I've looked with a fine tooth comb for any differences and don't see any. I
> also looked in the KEp file for the Weather & NOAA sats and the sat name is
> correct.  Anyone see what I'm missing.
>
>
>
> Rick Tejera
>
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
>
> www.saguaroastro.org
>
> Thunderbird Amateur radio Club (K7TEJ)
>
> www.w7tbc.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>



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Message: 12
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 07:25:08 -0500
From: Stefan Wagener <wageners@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Lizeth Norman <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna suggestions
Message-ID:
<CAKu8kHBXJgRP1z3DfwtsTRUqiuZQyo2N2kQW_Kqet71=ienyOg@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Well,

I am sorry to hear about your experience with M2. On the other hand, we
have dealt with them over the last two years for satellite antennas and can
report the hardware is good, it fits and instructions when followed allow
even non-hams to built a quality system. Customer support was outstanding
and quick. I am planning on purchasing the next set of satellite antennas
from them in the next few weeks and will continue to share my positive
experience about them.

Stefan, VE4NSA

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Lizeth Norman <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:

> If you're buying anything from M2 expect poor customer service and a
> bad build. I have more to do tonight than list the screwups those
> people have done. They actually charged my credit card and THEN 2.5
> months later (after finishing another manufacturing cycle) shipped the
> product (upgrade kit for a KLM kt-34a)!!! Not to mention having to use
> a dremel on the "CNC" hardware. The UHF antennas use a cheap white
> plastic insulator that cracks, allowing water ingress. Remember the
> $200 circularity switch that you need to buy? Junk after 7 years.
> See here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/n3ykf/11312549334/
> Considering what these people charge, I'd expect teflon.
>
> Because I'm a glutton for punishment, I purchased another antenna from
> this bunch of rejects (These bozos actually had the balls to cancel
> two credit card orders for parts!). It was cheaper than ordering one
> from Europe. I guess at $800, lasting 7 years, it's just over $100 a
> year to use this, then throw it away.
>
> The antenna has 21 pair of elements. 14 pair (!!!!!!) were miscut. 13
> by 1/16 and one by an 1/8. (I took pictures because I care!!!) That's
> a real problem where the elements of the antenna are 1/16 th of an
> inch different (most). Took me almost two hours to verify what they'd
> done and decide that regardless of what screwups they'd made, it was
> going together.
> Seems to work. I've no way to test it other than swr and on air usage.
>
> Take care to read the Gulf Alpha page. Last I looked, the satellite
> antennas were out of production and he was reserving parts/service for
> original owners, only.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
> > Keith,
> >
> > I'm not sure if Gulf Alpha is still making the satellite antennas. He had
> > something on his website saying that he wasn't going to build them and
> even
> > if he was to build them, you will wait a minimum of 4 months regardless
> of
> > what timeframe he tells you.
> >
> > Dave-KB1PVH
> >
> > Sent from my Samsung S4
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 13
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 08:35:34 -0500
From: Thomas Doyle <tomdoyle1948@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] two out of three ain;t bad.
Message-ID:
<CAHnRQR+qPFrDo4Bd7kKmv1cN-rhHiZ4kg7ui9pox-o3W9nrTRA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Rick,

You might take a look at this. It works for me and might help you.

http://www.tomdoyle.org/dopplersqfeditor

73 W9KE Tom Doyle

On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Rick Tejera <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx> wrote:

> All,
>
>
>
> A little help with SAT pc 32. I just started to play around with decode the
> NOAA weather sats. I want to get the frequencies into the dopper.sqf file
> so
> I can see the Doppler correction. I've edited the file and only two of the
> three sats show the frequency. The format is the same for all three:
>
>
>
> NOAA 15,137620.0,,FM,,,,
>
> NOAA 18,137910.0,,FM,,,,
>
> NOAA 19,137100.0,,FM,,,,
>
>
>
> NOAA 15 is the culprit that won't show.
>
>
>
> I've looked with a fine tooth comb for any differences and don't see any. I
> also looked in the KEp file for the Weather & NOAA sats and the sat name is
> correct.  Anyone see what I'm missing.
>
>
>
> Rick Tejera
>
> Saguaro Astronomy Club
>
> www.saguaroastro.org
>
> Thunderbird Amateur radio Club (K7TEJ)
>
> www.w7tbc.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>



--

Sent from my computer.

tom ...


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Message: 14
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 14:03:32 +0000 (UTC)
From: wa4hfn@xxxxxxx.xxx
To: AMSAT <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "gol, Grid" <starcom-bb@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] W1AW/4 TN em55
Message-ID:
<565897000.18526416.1410444212847.JavaMail.root@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Star comm group would like to thank the 138 hams we logged while operating
the W1AW/4 TN. on the satellites( WA4NVM and myself WA4HFN)
were the operators for this event. Now if you are working towards the 5 in
EM55 award, you can use that call as a em55 contact for the award
goto www.starcommgroup.org  click awards then click 5 in em55

Thanks
WA4HFN
EM55
Damon
www.starcommgroup.org


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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 12:43:12 -0400
From: Dino Papas <kl0s@xxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna suggestions
Message-ID: <BAEE263D-9177-47E6-82F7-77A3A51E17E0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252

Hmmmm, not my experience at all with M2.  My 2MCP14 and 436CP30, along with
their accessory polarization switches, and 2m and 432 egg beater antennas
all met the dimensional specs and apparent operational characteristics. 
Robert KR7O in sales and Matt on the technical side were always very helpful
and responsive to my calls and e-mails.

Sometimes you?ll find that suppliers will have antennas in stock (got all my
stuff from DXEngineering, another great experience BTW) where they actually
may be out of stock and simply in new production at the factory.

Guess we?ve nailed down the ends of the bell curve on experience with M2;
I?ll buy from them again when I build my weak-signal arrays and probably
their HF LPA as well.

Of course YMMV.

73 - Dino KL0S

On Sep102014, at 2352 PM, Lizeth Norman <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> If you're buying anything from M2 expect poor customer service and a
> bad build. I have more to do tonight than list the screwups those
> people have done. They actually charged my credit card and THEN 2.5
> months later (after finishing another manufacturing cycle) shipped the
> product (upgrade kit for a KLM kt-34a)!!! Not to mention having to use
> a dremel on the "CNC" hardware. The UHF antennas use a cheap white
> plastic insulator that cracks, allowing water ingress. Remember the
> $200 circularity switch that you need to buy? Junk after 7 years.
> See here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/n3ykf/11312549334/
> Considering what these people charge, I'd expect teflon.
>
> Because I'm a glutton for punishment, I purchased another antenna from
> this bunch of rejects (These bozos actually had the balls to cancel
> two credit card orders for parts!). It was cheaper than ordering one
> from Europe. I guess at $800, lasting 7 years, it's just over $100 a
> year to use this, then throw it away.
>
> The antenna has 21 pair of elements. 14 pair (!!!!!!) were miscut. 13
> by 1/16 and one by an 1/8. (I took pictures because I care!!!) That's
> a real problem where the elements of the antenna are 1/16 th of an
> inch different (most). Took me almost two hours to verify what they'd
> done and decide that regardless of what screwups they'd made, it was
> going together.
> Seems to work. I've no way to test it other than swr and on air usage.
>
> Take care to read the Gulf Alpha page. Last I looked, the satellite
> antennas were out of production and he was reserving parts/service for
> original owners, only.
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Keith,
>>
>> I'm not sure if Gulf Alpha is still making the satellite antennas. He had
>> something on his website saying that he wasn't going to build them and even
>> if he was to build them, you will wait a minimum of 4 months regardless of
>> what timeframe he tells you.
>>
>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>
>> Sent from my Samsung S4


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Message: 16
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:28:20 +0100
From: M5AKA <m5aka@xxxxx.xx.xx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Send your name / callsign "from the Moon"
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4M is expected to launch on its Lunar flyby sometime after 1800 UT on
October 23, 2014
http://amsat-uk.org/2014/09/11/send-your-message-from-the-moon/


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