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Today's Topics:
1. Office Closed (Martha)
2. FO-29 and being a good transponder op (Andrew Glasbrenner)
3. Re: FO-29 and being a good transponder op (Paul Stoetzer)
4. Re: FO-29 and being a good transponder op (Paul Stoetzer)
5. Re: FO-29 and being a good transponder op (Andrew Glasbrenner)
6. Re: FO-29 and being a good transponder op (Jim Jerzycke)
7. Re: Antenna suggestions (Jim Sanford)
8. Re: Antenna suggestions (Rick Walter)
9. Two out of three ain't bad (Rick Tejera)
10. FUNcube/AO-73 Mode change (Jim Heck)
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Message: 1
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 17:43:39 -0400
From: Martha <martha@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Board of Directors <bod@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Office Closed
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The AMSAT Office will be closed on Friday, September 12th. We will reopen
on Monday morning at 10:00 AM
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Message: 2
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 19:20:49 -0400
From: "Andrew Glasbrenner" <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FO-29 and being a good transponder op
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Lots of activity has been happening on FO-29 in the evenings lately. The
pass times are favorable, and there are rovers out and about.
This evening, there were at least three mobile, portable, or omni antenna
stations all piled up in the very center of the passband calling CQ on top
of each other. None were hearing the others it seems, or willing to move. It
was an ugly, embarrassing mess, completely unnecessary.
Folks, FO-29 has a passband that is 100 kHz wide. There is no reason to all
pile up in the dead center and QRM each other. Spread out a little bit,
ESPECIALLY if your operational plan is to call CQ with omni antennas or
half-duplex and tune around for replies. You'll make more contacts and have
less QRM in the long run.
The long standing convention on linear transponder satellites has been lower
third CW, middle mixed CW and SSB, and upper third SSB. Let's try to use
this resource in a more responsible and cooperative manner.
73, Drew KO4MA
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Message: 3
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 19:30:20 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 and being a good transponder op
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Great point, Drew.
The middle has been quite clogged the last few nights while zero activity
is heard below 840 or above 870.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <
glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Lots of activity has been happening on FO-29 in the evenings lately. The
> pass times are favorable, and there are rovers out and about.
>
>
>
> This evening, there were at least three mobile, portable, or omni antenna
> stations all piled up in the very center of the passband calling CQ on top
> of each other. None were hearing the others it seems, or willing to move.
> It
> was an ugly, embarrassing mess, completely unnecessary.
>
>
>
> Folks, FO-29 has a passband that is 100 kHz wide. There is no reason to all
> pile up in the dead center and QRM each other. Spread out a little bit,
> ESPECIALLY if your operational plan is to call CQ with omni antennas or
> half-duplex and tune around for replies. You'll make more contacts and have
> less QRM in the long run.
>
>
>
> The long standing convention on linear transponder satellites has been
> lower
> third CW, middle mixed CW and SSB, and upper third SSB. Let's try to use
> this resource in a more responsible and cooperative manner.
>
>
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 4
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 19:55:24 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 and being a good transponder op
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Another thought - if you're operating a special event or in a rare grid,
announce your frequencies on this board and pick one well out of the way of
the center. If people want/need to work you, they'll spin the dial! This
also helps those who may have short windows to your location on a
particular pass.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Great point, Drew.
>
> The middle has been quite clogged the last few nights while zero activity
> is heard below 840 or above 870.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <
> glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> Lots of activity has been happening on FO-29 in the evenings lately. The
>> pass times are favorable, and there are rovers out and about.
>>
>>
>>
>> This evening, there were at least three mobile, portable, or omni antenna
>> stations all piled up in the very center of the passband calling CQ on top
>> of each other. None were hearing the others it seems, or willing to move.
>> It
>> was an ugly, embarrassing mess, completely unnecessary.
>>
>>
>>
>> Folks, FO-29 has a passband that is 100 kHz wide. There is no reason to
>> all
>> pile up in the dead center and QRM each other. Spread out a little bit,
>> ESPECIALLY if your operational plan is to call CQ with omni antennas or
>> half-duplex and tune around for replies. You'll make more contacts and
>> have
>> less QRM in the long run.
>>
>>
>>
>> The long standing convention on linear transponder satellites has been
>> lower
>> third CW, middle mixed CW and SSB, and upper third SSB. Let's try to use
>> this resource in a more responsible and cooperative manner.
>>
>>
>>
>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
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>
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Message: 5
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 20:02:09 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 and being a good transponder op
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I fully agree!
Drew
Sent from my iPhone
> On Sep 11, 2014, at 7:55 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Another thought - if you're operating a special event or in a rare grid,
announce your frequencies on this board and pick one well out of the way of
the center. If people want/need to work you, they'll spin the dial! This
also helps those who may have short windows to your location on a particular
pass.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Great point, Drew.
>>
>> The middle has been quite clogged the last few nights while zero activity
is heard below 840 or above 870.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>>> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner
<glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>> Lots of activity has been happening on FO-29 in the evenings lately. The
>>> pass times are favorable, and there are rovers out and about.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> This evening, there were at least three mobile, portable, or omni antenna
>>> stations all piled up in the very center of the passband calling CQ on top
>>> of each other. None were hearing the others it seems, or willing to
move. It
>>> was an ugly, embarrassing mess, completely unnecessary.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Folks, FO-29 has a passband that is 100 kHz wide. There is no reason to
all
>>> pile up in the dead center and QRM each other. Spread out a little bit,
>>> ESPECIALLY if your operational plan is to call CQ with omni antennas or
>>> half-duplex and tune around for replies. You'll make more contacts and
have
>>> less QRM in the long run.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> The long standing convention on linear transponder satellites has been
lower
>>> third CW, middle mixed CW and SSB, and upper third SSB. Let's try to use
>>> this resource in a more responsible and cooperative manner.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 73, Drew KO4MA
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 01:09:48 +0000
From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 and being a good transponder op
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It was the same on Field day.
I was consistently by myself in the upper third of the transponder, and
had to drop downto make QSO's.
73, Jim KQ6EA (K6AA FD Op)
On 09/11/2014 11:20 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner wrote:
> Lots of activity has been happening on FO-29 in the evenings lately. The
> pass times are favorable, and there are rovers out and about.
>
>
>
> This evening, there were at least three mobile, portable, or omni antenna
> stations all piled up in the very center of the passband calling CQ on top
> of each other. None were hearing the others it seems, or willing to move. It
> was an ugly, embarrassing mess, completely unnecessary.
>
>
>
> Folks, FO-29 has a passband that is 100 kHz wide. There is no reason to all
> pile up in the dead center and QRM each other. Spread out a little bit,
> ESPECIALLY if your operational plan is to call CQ with omni antennas or
> half-duplex and tune around for replies. You'll make more contacts and have
> less QRM in the long run.
>
>
>
> The long standing convention on linear transponder satellites has been lower
> third CW, middle mixed CW and SSB, and upper third SSB. Let's try to use
> this resource in a more responsible and cooperative manner.
>
>
>
> 73, Drew KO4MA
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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Message: 7
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 21:20:49 -0400
From: Jim Sanford <wb4gcs@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna suggestions
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More like my experience with M-Squared. Their antennas are the best
mechanically engineered antennas I've ever seen.
Jim
wb4gcs@xxxxx.xxx
On 9/11/2014 8:25 AM, Stefan Wagener wrote:
> Well,
>
> I am sorry to hear about your experience with M2. On the other hand, we
> have dealt with them over the last two years for satellite antennas and can
> report the hardware is good, it fits and instructions when followed allow
> even non-hams to built a quality system. Customer support was outstanding
> and quick. I am planning on purchasing the next set of satellite antennas
> from them in the next few weeks and will continue to share my positive
> experience about them.
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Lizeth Norman <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
>> If you're buying anything from M2 expect poor customer service and a
>> bad build. I have more to do tonight than list the screwups those
>> people have done. They actually charged my credit card and THEN 2.5
>> months later (after finishing another manufacturing cycle) shipped the
>> product (upgrade kit for a KLM kt-34a)!!! Not to mention having to use
>> a dremel on the "CNC" hardware. The UHF antennas use a cheap white
>> plastic insulator that cracks, allowing water ingress. Remember the
>> $200 circularity switch that you need to buy? Junk after 7 years.
>> See here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/n3ykf/11312549334/
>> Considering what these people charge, I'd expect teflon.
>>
>> Because I'm a glutton for punishment, I purchased another antenna from
>> this bunch of rejects (These bozos actually had the balls to cancel
>> two credit card orders for parts!). It was cheaper than ordering one
>> from Europe. I guess at $800, lasting 7 years, it's just over $100 a
>> year to use this, then throw it away.
>>
>> The antenna has 21 pair of elements. 14 pair (!!!!!!) were miscut. 13
>> by 1/16 and one by an 1/8. (I took pictures because I care!!!) That's
>> a real problem where the elements of the antenna are 1/16 th of an
>> inch different (most). Took me almost two hours to verify what they'd
>> done and decide that regardless of what screwups they'd made, it was
>> going together.
>> Seems to work. I've no way to test it other than swr and on air usage.
>>
>> Take care to read the Gulf Alpha page. Last I looked, the satellite
>> antennas were out of production and he was reserving parts/service for
>> original owners, only.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>> Keith,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if Gulf Alpha is still making the satellite antennas. He had
>>> something on his website saying that he wasn't going to build them and
>> even
>>> if he was to build them, you will wait a minimum of 4 months regardless
>> of
>>> what timeframe he tells you.
>>>
>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>
>>> Sent from my Samsung S4
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>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 8
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 22:18:48 -0400
From: Rick Walter <wb3csy@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "wb4gcs@xxxxx.xxxx <wb4gcs@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna suggestions
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Have a pair of eggbeaters from M2 to work the linear birds up for 5 years.
No problems, excellent service. They survived the big east coast ice storm
last winter. I'd buy from M2 again in a heartbeat.
Rick - WB3CSY
Sent from Rick's iPhone 5
"Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre
minds" - Albert Einstein
> On Sep 11, 2014, at 9:20 PM, Jim Sanford <wb4gcs@xxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> More like my experience with M-Squared. Their antennas are the best
mechanically engineered antennas I've ever seen.
>
> Jim
> wb4gcs@xxxxx.xxx
>
>> On 9/11/2014 8:25 AM, Stefan Wagener wrote:
>> Well,
>>
>> I am sorry to hear about your experience with M2. On the other hand, we
>> have dealt with them over the last two years for satellite antennas and can
>> report the hardware is good, it fits and instructions when followed allow
>> even non-hams to built a quality system. Customer support was outstanding
>> and quick. I am planning on purchasing the next set of satellite antennas
>> from them in the next few weeks and will continue to share my positive
>> experience about them.
>>
>> Stefan, VE4NSA
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Lizeth Norman <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> If you're buying anything from M2 expect poor customer service and a
>>> bad build. I have more to do tonight than list the screwups those
>>> people have done. They actually charged my credit card and THEN 2.5
>>> months later (after finishing another manufacturing cycle) shipped the
>>> product (upgrade kit for a KLM kt-34a)!!! Not to mention having to use
>>> a dremel on the "CNC" hardware. The UHF antennas use a cheap white
>>> plastic insulator that cracks, allowing water ingress. Remember the
>>> $200 circularity switch that you need to buy? Junk after 7 years.
>>> See here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/n3ykf/11312549334/
>>> Considering what these people charge, I'd expect teflon.
>>>
>>> Because I'm a glutton for punishment, I purchased another antenna from
>>> this bunch of rejects (These bozos actually had the balls to cancel
>>> two credit card orders for parts!). It was cheaper than ordering one
>>> from Europe. I guess at $800, lasting 7 years, it's just over $100 a
>>> year to use this, then throw it away.
>>>
>>> The antenna has 21 pair of elements. 14 pair (!!!!!!) were miscut. 13
>>> by 1/16 and one by an 1/8. (I took pictures because I care!!!) That's
>>> a real problem where the elements of the antenna are 1/16 th of an
>>> inch different (most). Took me almost two hours to verify what they'd
>>> done and decide that regardless of what screwups they'd made, it was
>>> going together.
>>> Seems to work. I've no way to test it other than swr and on air usage.
>>>
>>> Take care to read the Gulf Alpha page. Last I looked, the satellite
>>> antennas were out of production and he was reserving parts/service for
>>> original owners, only.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
>>> wrote:
>>>> Keith,
>>>>
>>>> I'm not sure if Gulf Alpha is still making the satellite antennas. He had
>>>> something on his website saying that he wasn't going to build them and
>>> even
>>>> if he was to build them, you will wait a minimum of 4 months regardless
>>> of
>>>> what timeframe he tells you.
>>>>
>>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my Samsung S4
>>>> _______________________________________________
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>>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
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>>> program!
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Message: 9
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2014 23:00:11 -0700
From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Two out of three ain't bad
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Thanks to all who offered advice & hints. It was the missing dash.
I appreciate the answers and learned a few things I didn't know about what
is, for me at least,. A little used feature.
Next on to Cat control. But for now, bed time
Rick Tejera
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
Thunderbird Amateur radio Club (K7TEJ)
www.w7tbc.org
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 11:07:47 +0100
From: "Jim Heck" <jimlist@xxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT BB'" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] FUNcube/AO-73 Mode change
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Hi Folks,
FUNcube/AO-73 is now in continuous transponder mode with low power
beacon, as at 10:02 UTC. Change back to Auto eclipse mode planned for
Sunday PM UTC.
Early this week due to unavailability of ground station this evening!
Enjoy the transponder
73s Jim G3WGM
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