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Today's Topics:
1. Re: THANKS Re: Where did the TLEs go for BY70-1? (Alan)
2. 1296 loop yagi (Glenn Pritchard)
3. Re: Satellites and small yagis (Robert Oler)
4. Re: THANKS Re: Where did the TLEs go for BY70-1? (Joe)
5. Re-entry predictions for BY70-1 (Todd Deckard)
6. Re: Re-entry predictions for BY70-1 (Joe)
7. BY70-1 (Fred Castello)
8. Re: Satellites and small yagis (John Geiger)
9. WD9EWK @ DM23/DM24 on Friday (3 February)
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
10. AO-85 sat 32 issue (James Brown)
11. AMSAT at Palm Springs Hamfest on Saturday, 4 February 2017
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
12. Dinner after Palm Springs Hamfest on Saturday (4 February)?
(Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK))
13. Re: BY70-1 (Greg D)
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 07:21:56 -0600
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] THANKS Re: Where did the TLEs go for BY70-1?
Message-ID: <000001d27a32$aa6847c0$ff38d740$@xxxxx.xxx>
A suggestion would be to contact Tim through his website, politely explain
that BY70-1 is of interest
to amateurs, and request that he include it in the amateur.txt list because
you need frequent updates.
In the past he has been very responsive.
73s,
Alan
WA4SCA
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<From: AMSAT-BB [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On Behalf Of Todd Deckard
<Sent: Sunday, January 29, 2017 6:48 AM
<To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
<Subject: [amsat-bb] THANKS Re: Where did the TLEs go for BY70-1?
<
<Greetings Mac,
<
<Thanks for this!
<
<The AMSAT ftp site isn't updated frequently enough for the deteriorating
orbit and a single precision
<PLAN13 implementation on the ATmega1280.
<
<As an example here's the CELESTRAK output:
<
<BY70-1
<1 41909U 16083C 17029.24424671 .00506735 24288-5 70240-3 0 9991
<2 41909 97.5768 109.7306 0160558 244.2616 114.2002 15.85900257 5044
<
<Here's the AMSAT record sampled from the same time.
<
<BY70-1
<1 41909U 16083C 17026.84471594 .00329730 24344-5 49404-3 0 9999
<2 41909 97.5781 107.0760 0167800 253.3870 105.1424 15.83446051 4663
<
<As expected, atmospheric drag has the largest effect on the semi-major
axis, eccentricity, and
argument
<of perigee. Alas it won't be long now. Still haven't gotten a confirmed QSO!
<
<Best
<Todd
<
<
<>Mac A. Cody maccody at att.net
<>Sun Jan 29 02:43:52 UTC 2017
<>Previous message: [amsat-bb] Where did the TLEs go for BY70-1?
<>Next message: [amsat-bb] NJ7H-9
<>Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
<>Todd,
<
<>Mark KK6OTJ told me that you can find the latest TLEs for BY70-1 by using
<>the SATCAT search function at http://www.celestrak.com/satcat/search.asp
<>Search using the name BY70-1.
<>
<>73,
<>
<>Mac / AE5PH
<
<
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expressed
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 28 Jan 2017 17:41:27 -0700
From: Glenn Pritchard <hfcomnet@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] 1296 loop yagi
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Hi to all,
I have a general question, I am modeling a 45 element 1296 loop yagi with
1/2" wide elements instead of 1/4". According to predictions the pattern
and gain are just about right on for one with 1/4" wide elements.
The only issue that I can see is a little more bandwidth.
Has anyone done this before I build this?
Thanks and 73
Glenn, VE6ND
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 05:39:57 +0000
From: Robert Oler <flynavyf14@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "Mac A. Cody" <maccody@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellites and small yagis
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John...they work great as my first station here in Turkey...I took them
right from Santa Fe where I used them well.good dxing
Robert WB5MZO /TA1
Sent from my iPad
> On Jan 29, 2017, at 08:04, Mac A. Cody <maccody@xxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> John,
>
> My satellite 'battle station' uses a three-element 2m Yagi and a six-element
> 70 cm Yagi, both based upon the antenna set found in the July/August and
> September/October 2006 issues of AMSAT Journal. I've used them for many
> QSOs on the FM birds and they should work fine on the transponder birds,
too.
> I would imagine that the antennas you've described should work fine. I
> presume you will be placing them on an AZ/EL mount? I've read that if you
> can only have an azimuth rotator, you can place the antennas at a fixed
> elevation of 15 degrees. You'll experience fading if the satellite passes
> directly overhead, but that doesn't happen too often.
>
> 73,
>
> Mac / AE5PH
>
>> On 01/28/2017 09:35 PM, John Geiger wrote:
>> After having been off the satellites for a while due to life stuff, I am
>> almost ready to get back on again, I hope. I have a little space on the
>> mast under my miniquad where I can mount a small dualband end mounted
>> yagi. I have been looking at the Jetstream 2m/70cm since it is cheapest
>> and should fit there fine. It has 3 elements on 2m and 5 elements on 70cm.
>> Will that good enough on the satellites? I have used a Cushcraft 5/5
>> dualband yagi before with good results.
>>
>> I hope in another year or so to have the parent's estate finally settled
>> and money for a real satellite station again, but am hoping this will do in
>> the meantime. Anyone else tried a yagi this size?
>>
>> 73 John AF5CC
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 08:54:39 -0600
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] THANKS Re: Where did the TLEs go for BY70-1?
Message-ID: <47a00948-3dd3-d970-fc91-1c9ac22224f8@xxx.xxx>
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When will we have a closer idea of when it may re-enter?
It would be neat to try to catch it on video.
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 1/29/2017 6:48 AM, Todd Deckard wrote:
> Greetings Mac,
>
> Thanks for this!
>
> The AMSAT ftp site isn't updated frequently enough for the deteriorating
orbit and a single precision PLAN13 implementation on the ATmega1280.
>
> As an example here's the CELESTRAK output:
>
> BY70-1
> 1 41909U 16083C 17029.24424671 .00506735 24288-5 70240-3 0 9991
> 2 41909 97.5768 109.7306 0160558 244.2616 114.2002 15.85900257 5044
>
> Here's the AMSAT record sampled from the same time.
>
> BY70-1
> 1 41909U 16083C 17026.84471594 .00329730 24344-5 49404-3 0 9999
> 2 41909 97.5781 107.0760 0167800 253.3870 105.1424 15.83446051 4663
>
> As expected, atmospheric drag has the largest effect on the semi-major
axis, eccentricity, and argument of perigee. Alas it won't be long now.
Still haven't gotten a confirmed QSO!
>
> Best
> Todd
>
>
>> Mac A. Cody maccody at att.net
>> Sun Jan 29 02:43:52 UTC 2017
>> Previous message: [amsat-bb] Where did the TLEs go for BY70-1?
>> Next message: [amsat-bb] NJ7H-9
>> Messages sorted by: [ date ] [ thread ] [ subject ] [ author ]
>> Todd,
>> Mark KK6OTJ told me that you can find the latest TLEs for BY70-1 by using
>> the SATCAT search function at http://www.celestrak.com/satcat/search.asp
>> Search using the name BY70-1.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Mac / AE5PH
>
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 10:07:14 -0600 (GMT-06:00)
From: Todd Deckard <twdeckard@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: twdeckard@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Re-entry predictions for BY70-1
Message-ID:
<17380776.1743.1485706034200@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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Greetings Joe!
space-track.org lists the decay epoch as 2017-02-22 0:00:00 -- note this is
not strictly the re-entry time but perhaps gives us an approximate window?
I do not understand the material very well. It appears for large objects
they will calculate a time-and-impact prediction as things become more
certain but perhaps poor Bayi-Kepu-Weixing-1 may not rate as it doesn't pose
a hazard.
I don't even know if it would be visible during re-entry given the speed?
>When will we have a closer idea of when it may re-enter?
>
>It would be neat to try to catch it on video.
>
>Joe WB9SBD
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 10:30:24 -0600
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Re-entry predictions for BY70-1
Message-ID: <a4048db3-93af-52ed-e3e9-becee496ca2a@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
Cool, well it won't be a bad idea that for starting a few days before to
be outside waiting whenever an overhead pass was to happen.
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 1/29/2017 10:07 AM, Todd Deckard wrote:
> Greetings Joe!
>
> space-track.org lists the decay epoch as 2017-02-22 0:00:00 -- note this
is not strictly the re-entry time but perhaps gives us an approximate window?
>
> I do not understand the material very well. It appears for large objects
they will calculate a time-and-impact prediction as things become more
certain but perhaps poor Bayi-Kepu-Weixing-1 may not rate as it doesn't pose
a hazard.
>
> I don't even know if it would be visible during re-entry given the speed?
>
>> When will we have a closer idea of when it may re-enter?
>>
>> It would be neat to try to catch it on video.
>>
>> Joe WB9SBD
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 12:31:41 -0500
From: Fred Castello <fredcastello@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT bbs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] BY70-1
Message-ID:
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Hi Folks,
I am trying to find the correct file with SatPC32 to correct the TLE for
Sat BY70-1? I have found the Keplerian elements at:
C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\SatPC32\Kepler
and have the following files there:
amateur.txt
cubesat.txt
geo.txt
intelsat.txt
nasa.all
noaa.txt
OrbsManu.ele
SatPass 10-31-16
tle-new.txt
weather.txt
and have searched within all of those to find BY70-1 and can't find it. I
have found the most current TLE as was suggested yesterday via this same
mailing list and ended up putting them in amateur.txt but of course when I
update the Keps again, it disappears.
What am I missing? Thanks so much for your help!
Fred - KF4FC
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 13:31:23 -0600
From: John Geiger <af5cc2@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "A. Kevin Arber" <kevin.w3dad@xxxxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Satellites and small yagis
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Thanks for all of the feedback on small yagis and the satellites. There is
no way I can angle it up, so it will be horizontal. I have seen people
talking about angling up their yagis, how do you do that. It does seem
possible on a vertical mast, the only way I can see to do it would be if it
was on a horizontal crossboom.
73 John AF5CC
On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 5:56 AM, A. Kevin Arber <kevin.w3dad@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> John,
> It will work. I completed VUCC last year using a Arrow mounted about 20
> degrees up in elevation on a AZ only rotor. I used SatPC 32 to control the
> antenna AZ automatically. Very convenient that way.
> Good Luck & 73,
> Kevin W3DAD
>
> On Sat, Jan 28, 2017 at 10:35 PM, John Geiger <af5cc2@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> After having been off the satellites for a while due to life stuff, I am
>> almost ready to get back on again, I hope. I have a little space on the
>> mast under my miniquad where I can mount a small dualband end mounted
>> yagi. I have been looking at the Jetstream 2m/70cm since it is cheapest
>> and should fit there fine. It has 3 elements on 2m and 5 elements on 70cm.
>> Will that good enough on the satellites? I have used a Cushcraft 5/5
>> dualband yagi before with good results.
>>
>> I hope in another year or so to have the parent's estate finally settled
>> and money for a real satellite station again, but am hoping this will do
>> in
>> the meantime. Anyone else tried a yagi this size?
>>
>> 73 John AF5CC
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
>
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 19:48:49 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] WD9EWK @ DM23/DM24 on Friday (3 February)
Message-ID:
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Hi!
On my way to Palm Springs on Friday (3 February), I have a chance
to stop at the DM23/DM24 grid boundary north of Quartzsite AZ for
some passes. My tentative plans are to be out to that boundary
sometime between 1600 and 1700 UTC, which could make it possible
for an FO-29 pass around 1643 UTC covering much of North America,
and an AO-85 pass as that FO-29 pass ends. I don't plan on spending
the whole day at this spot, as I would like to arrive in Palm
Springs by mid- to late-afternoon. QSOs will be uploaded to Logbook
of the World, and QSL cards to confirm QSOs are available on request.
As with my other road trips, my travels should appear on sites like
aprs.fi as WD9EWK-9:
http://aprs.fi/WD9EWK-9
I will also use my @xxxxxx Twitter feed to post updates, which are
also visible in a web browser without a Twitter account at:
http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
By the way, if anyone going to Palm Springs is up for dinner on Friday,
please e-mail me off the list or send a direct message to my @xxxxxx
Twitter account. I don't know all of the eating establishments in that
area other than an In-N-Out along I-10, but I'm sure we can find a
place that works for a meal and some conversation before Saturday's
hamfest.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 20:06:34 +0000 (UTC)
From: James Brown <jimki6wj@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-85 sat 32 issue
Message-ID: <1978836164.2947098.1485720394770@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
? Sat 32 does not switch to FM mode on AO 85. The CAT window shows?
145980/435180 fm/fm
radio is IC 910H
What Am I missing?
ThanksJim KI6WJ
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 20:13:47 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] AMSAT at Palm Springs Hamfest on Saturday, 4
February 2017
Message-ID:
<CAN6TEUddf1LgyqcCh7Um7vc1CRwCDysQsmBP6ptDAiwR8O7SAw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi!
A reminder that AMSAT will have a booth at the Palm Springs Hamfest
on Saturday, 4 February 2017. More information about the hamfest is
available at its web site:
http://www.palmspringshamfest.com/
During the day, there will be demonstrations of satellite operating
using satellites in different modes. I hope to be able to have these
demonstrations to show off operating in FM, SSB, and packet. If you
hear me on during any of these passes during Saturday, please call
and be a part of the demonstrations. Any QSOs will be uploaded to
Logbook of the World after the hamfest, and QSL cards are available
on request. The hamfest site is in grid DM13rt, at the Palm Springs
Air Museum along Gene Autry Trail, south of the I-10 freeway.
For up-to-the-minute news on demonstrations and other AMSAT activities
at the hamfest, I will tweet using my @xxxxxx Twitter feed. If you do
not use Twitter, you can still view these updates and any photos I
tweet in a web browser at:
http://twitter.com/WD9EWK
Thanks again to Rick Fearns and the hamfest committee of the Palm
Springs Hamfest for extending an invitation for AMSAT to be a part
of this event.
73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 20:24:07 +0000
From: "Patrick STODDARD (WD9EWK/VA7EWK)" <amsat-bb@xxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Dinner after Palm Springs Hamfest on Saturday (4
February)?
Message-ID:
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Hi again!
Would anyone attending the Palm Springs Hamfest on Saturday (4
February) be interested in getting dinner after the hamfest? I'd
be happy to get together with other satellite operators - and any
others - for a bite to eat before I drive back to Phoenix in the
evening. As with my previous offer for Friday evening, I am open
to suggestions for where we could go. Please e-mail me off-list or
send a direct message to my @xxxxxx Twitter feed if interested.
Thanks, and 73!
Patrick WD9EWK/VA7EWK
http://www.wd9ewk.net/
Twitter: @xxxxxx
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 29 Jan 2017 13:37:59 -0800
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Fred Castello <fredcastello@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT bbs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] BY70-1
Message-ID: <588E60B7.1040006@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Hi Fred,
See if you can find it via Catalog # 41909, though I do see it under
BY70-1 on the Amsat Keps page.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ftp/keps/current/nasa.all
Greg KO6TH
Fred Castello wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I am trying to find the correct file with SatPC32 to correct the TLE for
> Sat BY70-1? I have found the Keplerian elements at:
>
> C:\Users\user\AppData\Roaming\SatPC32\Kepler
>
> and have the following files there:
>
> amateur.txt
> cubesat.txt
> geo.txt
> intelsat.txt
> nasa.all
> noaa.txt
> OrbsManu.ele
> SatPass 10-31-16
> tle-new.txt
> weather.txt
>
> and have searched within all of those to find BY70-1 and can't find it. I
> have found the most current TLE as was suggested yesterday via this same
> mailing list and ended up putting them in amateur.txt but of course when I
> update the Keps again, it disappears.
> What am I missing? Thanks so much for your help!
> Fred - KF4FC
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
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