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Today's Topics:

   1. Hand helds for FM birds (Rich/wa4bue)
   2. Re: Hand helds for FM birds (Paul Stoetzer)
   3. Re: Hand helds for FM birds (Andrew Glasbrenner)
   4. Re: FO-29 and being a good transponder op (Alan)
   5. Re: Hand helds for FM birds (Rolf Krogstad)
   6.  Hand helds for FM birds (Kevin M)
   7. Re: Hand helds for FM birds (Paul Stoetzer)
   8. REMINDER -- SPECIAL EVENT -- ROSELAND RADIO -- SATURDAY,
      SEPTEMBER 13th (Robert Kovacs)
   9. Re: Hand helds for FM birds (Bill ACITO, W1PA)
  10. Re: Hand helds for FM birds (Rick Tejera)
  11. Re: Antenna suggestions (Gary "Joe" Mayfield)
  12. Re: Hand helds for FM birds (Gary "Joe" Mayfield)
  13. Will you be my first... (Steve May)
  14. Re: Will you be my first... (Paul Stoetzer)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:12:40 -0400
From: "Rich/wa4bue" <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Hand helds for FM birds
Message-ID: <2510A72010CD474E9C2F84E5B54CA0A0@xxxxxxxxx>
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I lost some information once published on the BB.

What FM hand helds work duplex 70 cm and 2 meter for OSCARS?

Does anyone have a preference???

Rich W4BUE

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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:18:24 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "Rich/wa4bue" <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hand helds for FM birds
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The only current production model that works for Mode J full duplex is the
Kenwood TH-D7A2. There are few other full duplex handhelds on the market,
but they all suffer from desense on 70cm when transmitting on 2m.

The other handhelds may be adequate for the Mode B FM transponders on EO-80
and the Fox-1 series, but they will not work for full duplex on SO-50.

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Rich/wa4bue <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
wrote:

> I lost some information once published on the BB.
>
> What FM hand helds work duplex 70 cm and 2 meter for OSCARS?
>
> Does anyone have a preference???
>
> Rich W4BUE
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:32:43 -0400
From: Andrew Glasbrenner <glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hand helds for FM birds
Message-ID: <CDF1462C-1CE3-46E1-BB5F-6A8751787BB9@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
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At this point a pair of $40 Baofengs would be the best, most economical
solution for full duplex.

73, Drew KO4MA

Sent from my iPhone

> On Sep 12, 2014, at 8:18 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> The only current production model that works for Mode J full duplex is the
> Kenwood TH-D7A2. There are few other full duplex handhelds on the market,
> but they all suffer from desense on 70cm when transmitting on 2m.
>
> The other handhelds may be adequate for the Mode B FM transponders on EO-80
> and the Fox-1 series, but they will not work for full duplex on SO-50.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Rich/wa4bue <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
>> I lost some information once published on the BB.
>>
>> What FM hand helds work duplex 70 cm and 2 meter for OSCARS?
>>
>> Does anyone have a preference???
>>
>> Rich W4BUE
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:06:21 -0500
From: Alan <wa4sca@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Paul Stoetzer'" <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: 'AMSAT BB' <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 and being a good transponder op
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Paul,

The relatively rapid transition to the use of FUNcube dongles or similar,
even for portable
operations, will both help solve this, and encourage people to do so.  It
really drives home how much
unused spectrum exists on FO-29, and allows you to find the openings on AO-73.

73s,

Alan
WA4SCA

<-----Original Message-----
<From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Paul Stoetzer
<Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 6:55 PM
<To: Andrew Glasbrenner
<Cc: AMSAT BB
<Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] FO-29 and being a good transponder op
<
<Another thought - if you're operating a special event or in a rare grid,
<announce your frequencies on this board and pick one well out of the way of
<the center. If people want/need to work you, they'll spin the dial! This
<also helps those who may have short windows to your location on a
<particular pass.
<
<73,
<
<Paul, N8HM
<
<On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:30 PM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
<
<> Great point, Drew.
<>
<> The middle has been quite clogged the last few nights while zero activity
<> is heard below 840 or above 870.
<>
<> 73,
<>
<> Paul, N8HM
<>
<> On Thu, Sep 11, 2014 at 7:20 PM, Andrew Glasbrenner <
<> glasbrenner@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
<>
<>> Lots of activity has been happening on FO-29 in the evenings lately. The
<>> pass times are favorable, and there are rovers out and about.
<>>
<>>
<>>
<>> This evening, there were at least three mobile, portable, or omni antenna
<>> stations all piled up in the very center of the passband calling CQ on top
<>> of each other. None were hearing the others it seems, or willing to move.
<>> It
<>> was an ugly, embarrassing mess, completely unnecessary.
<>>
<>>
<>>
<>> Folks, FO-29 has a passband that is 100 kHz wide. There is no reason to
<>> all
<>> pile up in the dead center and QRM each other. Spread out a little bit,
<>> ESPECIALLY if your operational plan is to call CQ with omni antennas or
<>> half-duplex and tune around for replies. You'll make more contacts and
<>> have
<>> less QRM in the long run.
<>>
<>>
<>>
<>> The long standing convention on linear transponder satellites has been
<>> lower
<>> third CW, middle mixed CW and SSB, and upper third SSB. Let's try to use
<>> this resource in a more responsible and cooperative manner.
<>>
<>>
<>>
<>> 73, Drew KO4MA
<>>
<>> _______________________________________________
<>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
<>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
<>> Opinions expressed
<>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
<>> AMSAT-NA.
<>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
<>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
<>>
<>
<>
<_______________________________________________
<Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
<to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
<are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
<Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
<Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 08:48:57 -0500
From: Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hand helds for FM birds
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Is that the same as the Kenwood TH-72A?
http://www.aesham.com/multi-band/kenwood-th-d72a/

Rolf  NR0T
Amsat #38889
Amsat-UK e-Member


On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:

> The only current production model that works for Mode J full duplex is the
> Kenwood TH-D7A2. There are few other full duplex handhelds on the market,
> but they all suffer from desense on 70cm when transmitting on 2m.
>
> The other handhelds may be adequate for the Mode B FM transponders on EO-80
> and the Fox-1 series, but they will not work for full duplex on SO-50.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Rich/wa4bue <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
> > I lost some information once published on the BB.
> >
> > What FM hand helds work duplex 70 cm and 2 meter for OSCARS?
> >
> > Does anyone have a preference???
> >
> > Rich W4BUE
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> >
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 06:50:06 -0700
From: Kevin M <n4ufo@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb]  Hand helds for FM birds
Message-ID:
<1410529806.54532.YahooMailNeo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

At this point a pair of $40 Baofengs would be the best, most economical
solution for full duplex. 73, Drew KO4MA
---------------------
I second that suggestion. I went through two IC-W32As trying to find one
that would not desense on SO-50... no luck. (information out there about the
serial numbers is not correct!) With batteries and accessories, it cost me
MUCH more than $80 and is now sitting in a 'go bag' for taking mobile.

Other advantages of  two Baofengs:

- You don't need a diplexer on the antenna... uses two separate coaxial
feedlines
- May be lighter... I have a UV-3R+ and a UV-5R and together they are quite
a bit lighter than my IC-W32a
- You don't need a headset or a speaker mic with a headphone jack. You can
plug an earphone or cheap headphones into one and hold the other HT to talk
into; it's not much bigger, if at all (depending on model), than a mobile
hand mic. - Sure, you can plug headphones into a duplex HT and hold it to
talk into, but it is likely heavier and difficult to use the push-to-talk
AND adjust receive frequency with one hand on the SAME unit.

The trick with using two HTs is holding the antenna with one hand and the TX
HT in the other, WHILE occasionally tweaking the frequency on the RX HT.
AC0RA has operated "two HT" mode many times and his suggestion is to clip
the RX HT on your person (belt, maybe shirt pocket) and then hold the TX HT
in a way that you can free two fingers to adjust the RX HT. It works. No
different than holding a speaker mic so that you can adjust receive when
using a duplex HT. If you are using a tripod mounted the antenna, then no
worries! One hand for TX HT and the other to adjust the RX.

I recommend the UV-3R+ over the regular UV-3R as the plugs and accessories
are the same as later models and easier to find. (The UV-3R uses an
'annoying' 4 conductor phone plug. Makes it difficult to rig up a 'Y' cable
to split to a digital recorder.) The UV-3R+ is two watts whereas the UV-5R
is four watts. Otherwise they are similar radios. Frankly I would recommend
a pair of UV-3R+... the smaller size is more advantage than the two watts.
If someone is hogging the uplink, three dB isn't going to matter THAT much.

As always, your mileage may vary... =^)

73 es GL!

Kevin n4UFO

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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 09:50:29 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hand helds for FM birds
Message-ID:
<CABzOSOq_zzfcmjirF7=-H9-+ZfAtkWmMxKdvDgGLq7yYGZcDrw@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Yeah, I screwed up the model number!


On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:

> Is that the same as the Kenwood TH-72A?
> http://www.aesham.com/multi-band/kenwood-th-d72a/
>
> Rolf  NR0T
> Amsat #38889
> Amsat-UK e-Member
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> The only current production model that works for Mode J full duplex is the
>> Kenwood TH-D7A2. There are few other full duplex handhelds on the market,
>> but they all suffer from desense on 70cm when transmitting on 2m.
>>
>> The other handhelds may be adequate for the Mode B FM transponders on
>> EO-80
>> and the Fox-1 series, but they will not work for full duplex on SO-50.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Rich/wa4bue <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I lost some information once published on the BB.
>> >
>> > What FM hand helds work duplex 70 cm and 2 meter for OSCARS?
>> >
>> > Does anyone have a preference???
>> >
>> > Rich W4BUE
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>> > expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
>


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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 14:31:40 +0000
From: Robert Kovacs <robert.kovacs.g4g4@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] REMINDER -- SPECIAL EVENT -- ROSELAND RADIO --
SATURDAY, SEPTEMBER 13th
Message-ID:
<3ED628DE96DBD14A9D4AE285CD6D4D6E0A6BCD15@xxxxxxxx.xxx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"


In celebration of its 69th anniversary, the Roseland (NJ) Radio Club (K2GQ),
will be operating as special event station K2R from Eagle Rock Reservation,
West Orange, New Jersey (grid FN20), from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. EDT.

We're hoping to work the SO-50 pass at 12 Noon EDT (1405 Z).

The Club's other activities will be Two Meter simplex (146.55) and QRP HF on
20 m.

Hope to hear from you all then!

73,


Roseland Radio Club  --  K2GQ

Bob Kovacs KC2WYH
AMSAT Member 38504
   .





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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 15:21:58 -0400
From: "Bill ACITO, W1PA" <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hand helds for FM birds
Message-ID: <BAY179-DS12B844F4946D3AF55E732E98CD0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original

I love my Yaesu FT-530's (yes, I have a couple) for
handheld; they don't de-sense.

Bill
W1PA



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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 17:07:02 -0700
From: "Rick Tejera" <saguaroastro@xxx.xxx>
To: "'Paul Stoetzer'" <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>,	"'Rolf Krogstad'"
<rolf.krogstad@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hand helds for FM birds
Message-ID: <004a01cfcee6$a53ad550$efb07ff0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="us-ascii"

If you can find the D72A's predecessor, the TH-D7A, on the used market, that
will do fine as well. Got my VUCC Sat using one..

Rick Tejera
Saguaro Astronomy Club
www.saguaroastro.org
Thunderbird Amateur radio Club (K7TEJ)
www.w7tbc.org

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Paul Stoetzer
Sent: Friday, September 12, 2014 06:50
To: Rolf Krogstad
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hand helds for FM birds

Yeah, I screwed up the model number!


On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:48 AM, Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:

> Is that the same as the Kenwood TH-72A?
> http://www.aesham.com/multi-band/kenwood-th-d72a/
>
> Rolf  NR0T
> Amsat #38889
> Amsat-UK e-Member
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> The only current production model that works for Mode J full duplex
>> is the Kenwood TH-D7A2. There are few other full duplex handhelds on
>> the market, but they all suffer from desense on 70cm when transmitting on
2m.
>>
>> The other handhelds may be adequate for the Mode B FM transponders on
>> EO-80
>> and the Fox-1 series, but they will not work for full duplex on SO-50.
>>
>> 73,
>>
>> Paul, N8HM
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 8:12 AM, Rich/wa4bue
>> <richard.siff@xxxxxxx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>
>> > I lost some information once published on the BB.
>> >
>> > What FM hand helds work duplex 70 cm and 2 meter for OSCARS?
>> >
>> > Does anyone have a preference???
>> >
>> > Rich W4BUE
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum
>> > available to all interested persons worldwide without requiring
membership.
>> Opinions
>> > expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
>> > views of AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> >
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
program!
>> Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>
>
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available to all
interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official
views of AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb



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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:17:11 -0500
From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna suggestions
Message-ID: <BAY173-DS11124C51BA46B0C3E9E48E8ACA0@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"

I have to ask if you have seen the Gulf Alpha antennas? They are VERY
mechanically sound! STURDY! Someone complained about shipping time form Gulf
Alpha... Mine arrived just as promised and has held up well in out mild
South Dakota weather.

73,
Joe kk0sd

-----Original Message-----
From: amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxx [mailto:amsat-bb-bounces@xxxxx.xxxx On
Behalf Of Jim Sanford
Sent: Thursday, September 11, 2014 8:21 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Antenna suggestions

More like my experience with M-Squared.  Their antennas are the best
mechanically engineered antennas I've ever seen.

Jim
wb4gcs@xxxxx.xxx

On 9/11/2014 8:25 AM, Stefan Wagener wrote:
> Well,
>
> I am sorry to hear about your experience with M2. On the other hand, we
> have dealt with them over the last two years for satellite antennas and
can
> report the hardware is good, it fits and instructions when followed allow
> even non-hams to built a quality system. Customer support was outstanding
> and quick. I am planning on purchasing the next set of satellite antennas
> from them in the next few weeks and will continue to share my positive
> experience about them.
>
> Stefan, VE4NSA
>
> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 10:52 PM, Lizeth Norman <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
>> If you're buying anything from M2 expect poor customer service and a
>> bad build. I have more to do tonight than list the screwups those
>> people have done. They actually charged my credit card and THEN 2.5
>> months later (after finishing another manufacturing cycle) shipped the
>> product (upgrade kit for a KLM kt-34a)!!! Not to mention having to use
>> a dremel on the "CNC" hardware. The UHF antennas use a cheap white
>> plastic insulator that cracks, allowing water ingress. Remember the
>> $200 circularity switch that you need to buy? Junk after 7 years.
>> See here: https://www.flickr.com/photos/n3ykf/11312549334/
>> Considering what these people charge, I'd expect teflon.
>>
>> Because I'm a glutton for punishment, I purchased another antenna from
>> this bunch of rejects (These bozos actually had the balls to cancel
>> two credit card orders for parts!). It was cheaper than ordering one
>> from Europe. I guess at $800, lasting 7 years, it's just over $100 a
>> year to use this, then throw it away.
>>
>> The antenna has 21 pair of elements. 14 pair (!!!!!!) were miscut. 13
>> by 1/16 and one by an 1/8. (I took pictures because I care!!!) That's
>> a real problem where the elements of the antenna are 1/16 th of an
>> inch different (most). Took me almost two hours to verify what they'd
>> done and decide that regardless of what screwups they'd made, it was
>> going together.
>> Seems to work. I've no way to test it other than swr and on air usage.
>>
>> Take care to read the Gulf Alpha page. Last I looked, the satellite
>> antennas were out of production and he was reserving parts/service for
>> original owners, only.
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Sep 10, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Dave Webb KB1PVH <kb1pvh@xxxxx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>>> Keith,
>>>
>>> I'm not sure if Gulf Alpha is still making the satellite antennas. He
had
>>> something on his website saying that he wasn't going to build them and
>> even
>>> if he was to build them, you will wait a minimum of 4 months regardless
>> of
>>> what timeframe he tells you.
>>>
>>> Dave-KB1PVH
>>>
>>> Sent from my Samsung S4
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Message: 12
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 19:19:16 -0500
From: "Gary \"Joe\" Mayfield" <gary_mayfield@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "'Bill ACITO, W1PA'" <w1pa@xxxxxxx.xxx>,	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hand helds for FM birds
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The old FT-470 also gets the job done nicely!

73,
Joe kk0sd

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I love my Yaesu FT-530's (yes, I have a couple) for
handheld; they don't de-sense.

Bill
W1PA

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Message: 13
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:16:18 -0400
From: Steve May <steve.w5iem@xxxxx.xxx>
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Subject: [amsat-bb] Will you be my first...
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...contact on AO-73?

I think I have my station working, so I am going to try to work the pass
around 3:27 UTC tonight. If anyone is on that would be great

This will be my first attempt on anything other than SO-50, so it could be
a little rocky.

Steve, W5IEM


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Message: 14
Date: Fri, 12 Sep 2014 21:19:03 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Steve May <steve.w5iem@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Will you be my first...
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I'll be there. A few others should be too.

Keep in mind that the uplink frequencies are a bit off from what is
published. Will you be manually tuning for Doppler?

73,

Paul, N8HM

On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 9:16 PM, Steve May <steve.w5iem@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> ...contact on AO-73?
>
> I think I have my station working, so I am going to try to work the pass
> around 3:27 UTC tonight. If anyone is on that would be great
>
> This will be my first attempt on anything other than SO-50, so it could be
> a little rocky.
>
> Steve, W5IEM
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