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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Any current 2 meter usage by ISS? (Daniel Cussen)
2. Re: Any current 2 meter usage by ISS? (Philip Jenkins)
3. NAYIF-1 TRANSPONDER TEST HEADS-UP (Graham Shirville)
4. NAYIF-1 (PY5LF)
5. NAYIF1 TLE'S (ingejack@xxx.xxxx
6. Re: NAYIF1 TLE'S (Greg D)
7. Re: NAYIF1 TLE'S (Greg D)
8. Grid-Roving (R.T.Liddy)
9. Nayif1 (ingejack@xxx.xxxx
10. Re: NAYIF1 TLE'S (Graham Shirville)
11. NAYIF-1 anf SatPC32 Doppler.SQF (David Maciel (XE3DX))
12. Re: NAYIF1 TLE'S (Edson W. R. Pereira)
13. Nayif-1 TLEs (David G0MRF)
14. Re: Nayif-1 TLEs (Greg D)
15. Dashboard. (David Hopkins)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:05:50 +0000
From: Daniel Cussen <dan@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any current 2 meter usage by ISS?
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>But is the 2 meter voice frequency of 145.800 being used, either for
>random contacts by the astronauts, or for school contacts?
145.800 is being used for most/all USA direct or USA ARISS telebridge
contacts.
Very strong voice signal as it is using a powerful radio.
E.g.:
John Glenn Middle School, Maplewood MN, direct via K?JDD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Shane Kimbrough KE5HOD
Contact is a go for: Wed 2017-02-22 18:47:59 UTC 25 deg (***)
145.800 is the default unless a UHF frequency is specified
On 15/02/2017, Philip Jenkins <n4hf.philip@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I'm one of the instructors for a Technician class course; I'll be teaching
> the specialized communication section (e.g. satellites, EME, APRS,
> fox-hunting) among other topics.
>
> I'd like to give those students who are already interested sat comms enough
> info so that they can start listening to ISS and the FM sats NOW; the
> specialized comms topic doesn't come up until a little more than midway
> through the course.
>
> As a teaser, I plan to give them the downlink frequencies from ISS and FM
> sats, explain tuning for doppler a little, and show them how to use the
> Pass Predictions page on AMSAT.ORG.
>
> I know that ISS packet is currently only on UHF (not VHF), but is the 2
> meter voice frequency of 145.800 being used, either for random contacts by
> the astronauts, or for school contacts?
>
> None of them currently have packet/APRS gear, so I'm focusing only on
> voice contacts at least until the class ends (but I'll mention both of
> those when I do my more lengthy presentation in about a month).
>
> So, in short, my question is - is 2 meters being used at all right now for
> voice from ISS? If not, are random contacts being made on a UHF frequency?
> (I don't see a UHF voice downlink frequency listed in the 2016 "Getting
> Started with Amateur Satellites" book.)
>
> Thanks
>
> Philip N4HF
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:11:30 -0500
From: Philip Jenkins <n4hf.philip@xxxxx.xxx>
To: dan@xxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Any current 2 meter usage by ISS?
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Thanks Dan. I just wasn't sure if the equipment used for 2 meter voice was
also out of commission since VHF packet is down...and you have answered my
question!
Philip N4HF
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 10:05 AM, Daniel Cussen <dan@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> >But is the 2 meter voice frequency of 145.800 being used, either for
> >random contacts by the astronauts, or for school contacts?
>
> 145.800 is being used for most/all USA direct or USA ARISS telebridge
> contacts.
> Very strong voice signal as it is using a powerful radio.
>
> E.g.:
> John Glenn Middle School, Maplewood MN, direct via K?JDD
> The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
> The scheduled astronaut is Shane Kimbrough KE5HOD
> Contact is a go for: Wed 2017-02-22 18:47:59 UTC 25 deg (***)
>
> 145.800 is the default unless a UHF frequency is specified
>
> On 15/02/2017, Philip Jenkins <n4hf.philip@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > I'm one of the instructors for a Technician class course; I'll be
> teaching
> > the specialized communication section (e.g. satellites, EME, APRS,
> > fox-hunting) among other topics.
> >
> > I'd like to give those students who are already interested sat comms
> enough
> > info so that they can start listening to ISS and the FM sats NOW; the
> > specialized comms topic doesn't come up until a little more than midway
> > through the course.
> >
> > As a teaser, I plan to give them the downlink frequencies from ISS and FM
> > sats, explain tuning for doppler a little, and show them how to use the
> > Pass Predictions page on AMSAT.ORG.
> >
> > I know that ISS packet is currently only on UHF (not VHF), but is the 2
> > meter voice frequency of 145.800 being used, either for random contacts
> by
> > the astronauts, or for school contacts?
> >
> > None of them currently have packet/APRS gear, so I'm focusing only on
> > voice contacts at least until the class ends (but I'll mention both of
> > those when I do my more lengthy presentation in about a month).
> >
> > So, in short, my question is - is 2 meters being used at all right now
> for
> > voice from ISS? If not, are random contacts being made on a UHF
> frequency?
> > (I don't see a UHF voice downlink frequency listed in the 2016 "Getting
> > Started with Amateur Satellites" book.)
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Philip N4HF
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:52:51 -0000
From: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT BB" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: operations@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx
Subject: [amsat-bb] NAYIF-1 TRANSPONDER TEST HEADS-UP
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Hi All,
It is likely that the transponder will be activated to test its performance
for one orbit from approx 1605 until 1735 UTC today.
If you hear it on then feel free to test and evaluate its performance and
please let us have any reports via email to operations@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx or
on IRC channel http://irc.lc/freenode/funcube
The nominal uplink and downlink frequencies are shown here -
435.045 - 435.015 MHz Uplink
145.960 - 145.990 MHz Downlink
73 and thanks
Graham
G3VZV
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 14:37:55 -0200
From: PY5LF <py5lf@xxxxxxxxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: AMSAT-BB <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] NAYIF-1
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Signal recorded today on the first pass.
https://youtu.be/-1yb0AUDueA
73
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:43:00 -0700
From: <ingejack@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] NAYIF1 TLE'S
Message-ID: <20170215124300.DXNWM.167091.imail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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What are the correct TLE'S for NAYIF1 ?? I am showing Item 41953 17008F is
that correct ?? Thanks KC7MG
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:20:11 -0800
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: ingejack@xxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NAYIF1 TLE'S
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Those keps seemed to work ok, especially given how new the orbit is.
But, the signal I heard on 145.940 +/- didn't sound like data. It was
just a short (1 second or slightly less) carrier every 5 seconds. The
waterfall on Fldigi didn't show any width, other than a very short bit
right at the first part of the tone. (I know fldigi won't decode it,
just using the waterfall to see if there was any modulation present.)
This was a nearly overhead pass beginning at 18:03z here in CM98. Was I
listening to the right bird?
Greg KO6TH
ingejack@xxx.xxx wrote:
> What are the correct TLE'S for NAYIF1 ?? I am showing Item 41953 17008F
is that correct ?? Thanks KC7MG
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Message: 7
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 10:25:34 -0800
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: ingejack@xxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NAYIF1 TLE'S
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Oh, wait...
Just ran Fabricio's recording through fldigi, and I see TWO lines
(tones) during the 1 second pulses, each looking about like what I saw.
So, the modulation is really wide, compared to what I am used to
seeing. Didn't catch that during my pass. Will check again next time.
Greg KO6TH
Greg D wrote:
> Those keps seemed to work ok, especially given how new the orbit is.
>
> But, the signal I heard on 145.940 +/- didn't sound like data. It was
> just a short (1 second or slightly less) carrier every 5 seconds. The
> waterfall on Fldigi didn't show any width, other than a very short bit
> right at the first part of the tone. (I know fldigi won't decode it,
> just using the waterfall to see if there was any modulation present.)
>
> This was a nearly overhead pass beginning at 18:03z here in CM98. Was I
> listening to the right bird?
>
> Greg KO6TH
>
>
> ingejack@xxx.xxx wrote:
>> What are the correct TLE'S for NAYIF1 ?? I am showing Item 41953 17008F
is that correct ?? Thanks KC7MG
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
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Message: 8
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 18:34:47 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Starcom <starcom-bb@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "ke5hvm@xxxxx.xxxx <ke5hvm@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Grid-Roving
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This morning I operated from the EM20/EM30 Grid Line
near Evadale, TX, and made 22 Q's on FO29 & SO50. It
was a special thrill to work K2CHS during the Conroe
High School 4th Period Astronomy Class.
Last evening I made 7 Q's on XW2F & XW2C. Those SAT's
are really easy to work since they hear good and have
a strong downlink and don't seem to tumble all that
much. Sure wish there was more activity on them.
Tomorrow, my plan is to operate from the EM30/EM31 Grid
Line on the 1700Z pass of FO29.
73, Bob K8BL/5 (EM20vg Snowbird from Ohio)
P.S. See my QRZ.com page for QSL info.
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Message: 9
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 11:51:14 -0700
From: <ingejack@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nayif1
Message-ID: <20170215135114.LSUXM.167615.imail@xxxxxxxxxxxx>
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I also received a carrier around every 4-5 seconds.. I sent KO6TH and KO6TZ
a recording of the carrier and they both confirmed the same,.. The
Transponder however was not ON ... JACK-KC7MG
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Message: 10
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 19:41:06 -0000
From: "Graham Shirville" <g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <ingejack@xxx.xxx>, <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NAYIF1 TLE'S
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We dont have an object number yet so please continue to use the prelaunch
keps here - http://download.funcube.org.uk/nayif_tle.txt
they are damn near perfect we believe - please pass the word!
thanks
Graham
-----Original Message-----
From: ingejack@xxx.xxx
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:43 PM
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] NAYIF1 TLE'S
What are the correct TLE'S for NAYIF1 ?? I am showing Item 41953 17008F is
that correct ?? Thanks KC7MG
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Message: 11
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 13:44:23 -0600
From: "David Maciel (XE3DX)" <david.xe3dx@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Grupo Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] NAYIF-1 anf SatPC32 Doppler.SQF
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I have loaded parameters to work NAYIF-1 on SatPC32 on doppler.SQF but does
not appear in satellite list, close and open the program and the same, have
another name?
David Maciel XE3DX
*http://www.qsl.net/xe3dx/ <http://www.qsl.net/xe3dx/>*
*david.xe3dx@xxxxx.xxx <david.xe3dx@xxxxx.xxx>*
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Message: 12
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 16:52:35 -0300
From: "Edson W. R. Pereira" <ewpereira@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] NAYIF1 TLE'S
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I have used the prelaunch keps for both passes for Nayif-1 this morning
over GG56tv and they worked remarkably well for doppler correction. I think
they will be fine for the next few days.
73, Edson PY2SDR
On Wed, Feb 15, 2017 at 4:41 PM, Graham Shirville <
g.shirville@xxxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> We dont have an object number yet so please continue to use the prelaunch
> keps here - http://download.funcube.org.uk/nayif_tle.txt
>
> they are damn near perfect we believe - please pass the word!
>
> thanks
>
> Graham
>
> -----Original Message----- From: ingejack@xxx.xxx
> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2017 5:43 PM
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Subject: [amsat-bb] NAYIF1 TLE'S
>
>
> What are the correct TLE'S for NAYIF1 ?? I am showing Item 41953 17008F
> is that correct ?? Thanks KC7MG
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Message: 13
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 15:16:30 -0500
From: David G0MRF <g0mrf@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Nayif-1 TLEs
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Hi Greg.
The transponder was on during the last pass over Europe.
As far as I know the team in The Emirates have left the satellite in a mode
where the transponder is on in eclipse.
So, it should be on for tonight's passes over North and South America.
The signal every 5 seconds should show up as 2 lines lasting 700mS.
The telemetry data is transmitted for 4.3 seconds between each burst of
tones. (but it sounds just like noise.)
All reports appreciated. And videos ! Thanks PY5LF
David
Oh, wait...
Just ran Fabricio's recording through fldigi, and I see TWO lines
(tones) during the 1 second pulses, each looking about like what I saw.
So, the modulation is really wide, compared to what I am used to
seeing. Didn't catch that during my pass. Will check again next time.
Greg KO6TH
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Message: 14
Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2017 12:43:48 -0800
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: David G0MRF <g0mrf@xxx.xxx>, amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Nayif-1 TLEs
Message-ID: <e646f2c1-5ceb-40c7-3ed3-9a6fcc43133f@xxxxx.xxx>
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Perfect! Thanks for the explanation of what the telemetry sounds like.
That matches what I hear.
Will give the transponder a try... Next pass 8:40pm local, 40 degrees.
Greg KO6TH
David G0MRF via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Hi Greg.
>
> The transponder was on during the last pass over Europe.
> As far as I know the team in The Emirates have left the satellite in a
mode where the transponder is on in eclipse.
>
> So, it should be on for tonight's passes over North and South America.
>
> The signal every 5 seconds should show up as 2 lines lasting 700mS.
> The telemetry data is transmitted for 4.3 seconds between each burst of
tones. (but it sounds just like noise.)
>
> All reports appreciated. And videos ! Thanks PY5LF
>
> David
>
>
>
> Oh, wait...
>
> Just ran Fabricio's recording through fldigi, and I see TWO lines
> (tones) during the 1 second pulses, each looking about like what I saw.
> So, the modulation is really wide, compared to what I am used to
> seeing. Didn't catch that during my pass. Will check again next time.
>
> Greg KO6TH
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 15
Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2017 07:11:46 +1000
From: David Hopkins <davhop@xxxxxxx.xxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Dashboard.
Message-ID: <58A187A700CE6972@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxx> (added by
postmaster@xxxx.xxxxxxx.xxxx
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
Gentlemen,
Can I run both the Funcube AND the Nayif dashboard at the same time.
It appears they both decode the data when connected to the receiver output.
Will this confuse sending the correct data to their respective warehouses?
Trying to reduce the amount of switching between Funcube,Ukcube and Nayif.
With Nayif arriving in between Funcube passes the automation has
taken a backwood step.
Thanks
David
David G. Hopkins (VK4ZF)
CAPALABA QLD
AUSTRALIA
27' 32" 23.03S 153' 12' 01.54E
QG62OL
Skype :- davhop
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