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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Hard times for satellite radio buyers? (Jeff Davis)
2. Re: Kam Plus TNC Modem - AGWPE - UISS (John Brier)
3. Re: Kam Plus TNC Modem - AGWPE - UISS (Fernando Ramirez)
4. Re: Kam Plus TNC Modem - AGWPE - UISS (John Brier)
5. Re: Kam Plus TNC Modem - AGWPE - UISS (Roger)
6. Re: Kam Plus TNC Modem - AGWPE - UISS (Roger)
7. Re: Hard times for satellite radio buyers? (STeve Andre')
8. Re: Hard times for satellite radio buyers? (Mike Diehl)
9. Re: Hard times for satellite radio buyers? (Norm n3ykf)
10. Re: Kam Plus TNC Modem - AGWPE - UISS (pedro@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxxx
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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 19:53:02 -0400
From: Jeff Davis <stuckbit@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hard times for satellite radio buyers?
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It's problematic now to be sure. You buy old or you buy the THD-72 from
Kenwood.
But the "big three" are going to be ignored in the end. They don't support
us now and the future will be twenty dollar modules from Amazon plugged
together with a Raspberry Pi to give us the sort of functionality we need
to work future payloads.
Perhaps they understand that and have written this facet of the hobby off
entirely?
73, Jeff KE9V
On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Mike Sprenger <mikesprenger@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> Hi Ken,
>
> Welcome, and glad you've found fascination with the Amateur Satellites
>
> Theres always the opportunity to acquire gear from a fellow satellite
> enthusiast which you can inquire with folks here on the BB (I've got no
> surplus gear right now)
>
> Check out how many all mode rigs are available if you recognize them,
> they're often inexpensive if you find them on a hamfest table:
>
>
> http://www.rigpix.com/index.shtml
>
>
> There's lots of fun to be had on the satellites, I look forward to hearing
> you on the air !
>
> (BTW, even the most modern gear by any definition can only make "Ancient
> SSB" sound so good)
>
> Mike
> W4UOO
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Bill Booth <ve3nxk@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > On 2017-03-19 1:53 AM, Ken M wrote:
> >
> >> Thanks for indulging my shopping frustrations, and my inexperience, but
> >> I have to think there are others new to the hobby that are having
> >> similar thoughts. Do Amsat members see this as a problem?
> >>
> >
> > Well Ken I am of the same thinking but a bit different. I have an old
> 970
> > and it works great for the birds, but like to do some EME as well at
> 23cm.
> > The field is like you say do it all or nothing. The 9100 is nice but has
> > HF in it. and looks real small sitting next to my 7700 HF rig.
> >
> > I bet the next rigs will be SDR driven and the size of your phone........
> >
> >
> > --
> > Bill Booth VE3NXK
> > Sundridge ON, Canada
> > 79.23.37 W x 45.46.18 N
> > FN05ns
> >
> > Visit my weather WebCam at http://www.almaguin.com/
> wxcurrent/weather.html
> >
> > Organ and Tissue Donation - The Gift of Life
> > Talk to your family. Your decision can make a difference.
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
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> > AMSAT-NA.
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>
>
>
> --
> Thanks,
> Mike Sprenger
> (37.9167N 81.1244W is the Summit)
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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:29:36 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Kurt Heernaert <on4cgw@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kam Plus TNC Modem - AGWPE - UISS
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I don't believe UISS works with hardware modems.
73, John Brier KG4AKV
On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Kurt Heernaert <on4cgw@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Dear All,
>
> Who can helping me a little to make a start in UISS with next Items,
>
> Modem : Kam Plus alle mode modem
>
> AGWPE
>
> UISS
>
> Tnx in Advance
>
> Vy 73 ON4CGW Kurt
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 18:41:01 -0700
From: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx>
To: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Kurt Heernaert <on4cgw@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kam Plus TNC Modem - AGWPE - UISS
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I use AWGPE to connect my Mobilinkd Bluetooth TNC to UISS.
Haven't used the Kam TNC but here's a link that might help in connecting it
to AWGPE:
http://www.marqhost.com/phf/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=1572
73
Fernando, NP4JV
On Mar 19, 2017 6:29 PM, "John Brier" <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I don't believe UISS works with hardware modems.
>
> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Kurt Heernaert <on4cgw@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> > Dear All,
> >
> > Who can helping me a little to make a start in UISS with next Items,
> >
> > Modem : Kam Plus alle mode modem
> >
> > AGWPE
> >
> > UISS
> >
> > Tnx in Advance
> >
> > Vy 73 ON4CGW Kurt
> > _______________________________________________
> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> program!
> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
> _______________________________________________
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 21:45:23 -0400
From: John Brier <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Kurt Heernaert <on4cgw@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kam Plus TNC Modem - AGWPE - UISS
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Okay that's what I wasn't sure of. I've only ever used UZ7HO
Soundmodem with UISS. I guess AWGPE acts as an interface between the
hardware TNC and UISS. UISS directly doesn't interface with a hardware
modem AFAIK.
73, John Brier
On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 9:41 PM, Fernando Ramirez
<framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I use AWGPE to connect my Mobilinkd Bluetooth TNC to UISS.
>
> Haven't used the Kam TNC but here's a link that might help in connecting it
> to AWGPE:
>
> http://www.marqhost.com/phf/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=1572
>
> 73
> Fernando, NP4JV
>
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2017 6:29 PM, "John Brier" <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> I don't believe UISS works with hardware modems.
>>
>> 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Kurt Heernaert <on4cgw@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> > Dear All,
>> >
>> > Who can helping me a little to make a start in UISS with next Items,
>> >
>> > Modem : Kam Plus alle mode modem
>> >
>> > AGWPE
>> >
>> > UISS
>> >
>> > Tnx in Advance
>> >
>> > Vy 73 ON4CGW Kurt
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> > Opinions expressed
>> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
>> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> > program!
>> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
>> expressed
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>> AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 18:50:28 -0700
From: Roger <ai7rogerroger@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Kurt Heernaert <on4cgw@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kam Plus TNC Modem - AGWPE - UISS
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I use UISS with an old PK-232mbx modem.
73, Roger
W7TZ
CN83ia
On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx>
wrote:
> I use AWGPE to connect my Mobilinkd Bluetooth TNC to UISS.
>
> Haven't used the Kam TNC but here's a link that might help in connecting it
> to AWGPE:
>
> http://www.marqhost.com/phf/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=1572
>
> 73
> Fernando, NP4JV
>
>
>
> On Mar 19, 2017 6:29 PM, "John Brier" <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > I don't believe UISS works with hardware modems.
> >
> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
> >
> > On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Kurt Heernaert <on4cgw@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
> > > Dear All,
> > >
> > > Who can helping me a little to make a start in UISS with next Items,
> > >
> > > Modem : Kam Plus alle mode modem
> > >
> > > AGWPE
> > >
> > > UISS
> > >
> > > Tnx in Advance
> > >
> > > Vy 73 ON4CGW Kurt
> > > _______________________________________________
> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> > Opinions expressed
> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
> of
> > AMSAT-NA.
> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
> > program!
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> > _______________________________________________
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> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
> Opinions
> > expressed
> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> > AMSAT-NA.
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 18:52:02 -0700
From: Roger <ai7rogerroger@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Fernando Ramirez <framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Kurt Heernaert <on4cgw@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kam Plus TNC Modem - AGWPE - UISS
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My mistake. I use it with UI-View.
73, Roger
W7TZ
CN83ia
On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Roger <ai7rogerroger@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> I use UISS with an old PK-232mbx modem.
>
>
> 73, Roger
> W7TZ
> CN83ia
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Fernando Ramirez <
> framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> I use AWGPE to connect my Mobilinkd Bluetooth TNC to UISS.
>>
>> Haven't used the Kam TNC but here's a link that might help in connecting
>> it
>> to AWGPE:
>>
>> http://www.marqhost.com/phf/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=1572
>>
>> 73
>> Fernando, NP4JV
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mar 19, 2017 6:29 PM, "John Brier" <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> > I don't believe UISS works with hardware modems.
>> >
>> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>> >
>> > On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Kurt Heernaert <on4cgw@xxxxx.xxx>
>> wrote:
>> > > Dear All,
>> > >
>> > > Who can helping me a little to make a start in UISS with next Items,
>> > >
>> > > Modem : Kam Plus alle mode modem
>> > >
>> > > AGWPE
>> > >
>> > > UISS
>> > >
>> > > Tnx in Advance
>> > >
>> > > Vy 73 ON4CGW Kurt
>> > > _______________________________________________
>> > > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> > > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> > Opinions expressed
>> > > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views
>> of
>> > AMSAT-NA.
>> > > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> > program!
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>> > _______________________________________________
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>> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>> > expressed
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>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 23:29:45 -0400
From: STeve Andre' <andres@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hard times for satellite radio buyers?
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Let me add a vote of support to this idea. Like Steve, I have been
talking with vendors for a while now, at places like Dayton. I have
gone to my favorite company, ICOM, every year now and asked about all
sorts of things like weak signal equipment, the lack of 222Mhz gear,
lack of multi-band HTs like the ic-T81a, etc.
Only when politely pummelled with queries will they think about
changing. I'm sure that the big three are very nervous about the future
with Chinese companies making inroads with usually checp not
great products, but if they don't don't offer what people want, they
will die. It will be interesting to see what Chinese ham companies
do in the future.
Lastly, try to influence American companies to make ham gear. I am
thankful for Elecraft and Ten-Tec and hope there will be more. There
should be. Not disparaging the kit-based SDR people--they're great
but I think there is room for all.
--STeve Andre'
wb8wsf en72
On 03/19/17 18:33, Steve May wrote:
> One thing I always try to do when I'm at a hamfest and a manufacturer is
> present is to mention the features I want on a radio. In my experience I
> have found that that they will listen when I say that I want a 2m/70cm full
> duplex SSB radio, and often say that they have heard other operators say
> that they want those features. But when I mention the word "satellite" they
> immediately brush me off by saying that it is just a niche area of the
> hobby.
>
> I always encourage hams to voice their frustrations with the manufacturers
> in not being able to find a radio today that will really do what we need.
> If everyone continues to bug them at places like Dayton perhaps one day at
> least one manufacturer will listen and help us.
>
>
> Steve May, W5IEM
> Amateur Extra - Georgetown, KY
> (520) 261-7847 - Cell
> Skype: USHorseman
> Steve.W5IEM@xxxxx.xxx
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> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Mike Sprenger <mikesprenger@xxxxx.xxx>
> wrote:
>
>> Hi Ken,
>>
>> Welcome, and glad you've found fascination with the Amateur Satellites
>>
>> Theres always the opportunity to acquire gear from a fellow satellite
>> enthusiast which you can inquire with folks here on the BB (I've got no
>> surplus gear right now)
>>
>> Check out how many all mode rigs are available if you recognize them,
>> they're often inexpensive if you find them on a hamfest table:
>>
>>
>> http://www.rigpix.com/index.shtml
>>
>>
>> There's lots of fun to be had on the satellites, I look forward to hearing
>> you on the air !
>>
>> (BTW, even the most modern gear by any definition can only make "Ancient
>> SSB" sound so good)
>>
>> Mike
>> W4UOO
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 11:51 AM, Bill Booth <ve3nxk@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> On 2017-03-19 1:53 AM, Ken M wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks for indulging my shopping frustrations, and my inexperience, but
>>>> I have to think there are others new to the hobby that are having
>>>> similar thoughts. Do Amsat members see this as a problem?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Well Ken I am of the same thinking but a bit different. I have an old
>> 970
>>> and it works great for the birds, but like to do some EME as well at
>> 23cm.
>>> The field is like you say do it all or nothing. The 9100 is nice but has
>>> HF in it. and looks real small sitting next to my 7700 HF rig.
>>>
>>> I bet the next rigs will be SDR driven and the size of your phone........
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Bill Booth VE3NXK
>>> Sundridge ON, Canada
>>> 79.23.37 W x 45.46.18 N
>>> FN05ns
>>>
>>> Visit my weather WebCam at http://www.almaguin.com/
>> wxcurrent/weather.html
>>>
>>> Organ and Tissue Donation - The Gift of Life
>>> Talk to your family. Your decision can make a difference.
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>> Opinions
>>> expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>> program!
>>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Thanks,
>> Mike Sprenger
>> (37.9167N 81.1244W is the Summit)
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 19 Mar 2017 22:33:03 -0700
From: Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Ken M <va7kbm@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hard times for satellite radio buyers?
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Ken,
I too wish for a V/U purpose built rig and in particular a portable one. A
rig with dual VFOs and full duplex capability. I don't see this type of rig
offered from the "Big 3" anytime soon.
I think instead of everyone trying to get them on board, we should pursue
the smaller manufacturers. I see these Xiegu HF rigs and they look pretty
nice. My guess is a company like this has facilities to produce a nice,
modern sat rig. Perhaps we should send our votes of support to a company
that would cater to a niche market.
As far as ancient tech goes, I think it still works pretty good. Used two
817s to work Russia from a park in LA county about a week ago on AO-7,
launched back in 1974. It's not the most ideal rig but it can still get the
job done.
73's
Mike Diehl
AI6GS
> On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:53 PM, Ken M <va7kbm@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Hello all,
>
> Is it not hard times for new and prospective satellite operators (like
> me) in terms of equipment choices, at least in terms of the "big three"?
> (And, to be clear, I'm talking about current, in-production models only.)
>
> I'm looking for an HF base/mobile radio, and also a VHF/UHF-only
> all-mode base/mobile radio that I can use for the linear satellites but
> - wait - there are no VHF/UHF-only all mode radios! That means I need to
> buy a "shack in a box" but - wait - there are only two choices (at what
> I will call moderate prices), the ancient TS-2000 and equally ancient
> FT-857D. There is the new and somewhat more expensive FT-991A and,
> although that sounds like a very good radio, for HF at that price point
> I might prefer the IC-7300 but that would mean no satellite work.
>
> I'm also looking for a portable HF QRP radio, and a portable radio I can
> use for the linear satellites. Again the venerable but ancient FT-817ND
> is pretty much the only game in town. As with the HF base radios above,
> if I am only interested in HF QRP I would probably rather put my money
> toward a KX2 or KX3 of newer design but, again, that would mean no
> satellite work.
>
> So as a new operator, to get into linear satellites it seems I am forced
> to either (1) troll the swap meets for ancient gear; (2) buy new gear of
> old design (which in my mind is even worse); or (3) buy new gear of
> modern design that works for satellite and HF, but is not necessarily
> the radio I would choose for HF alone.
>
> I should add that the situation is not much better for HT/mobile radios
> for the FM satellites, but at least there are some cost effective
> workarounds including the less expensive Baofeng/Wouxun/Tytera radios
> and their clones.
>
> Thanks for indulging my shopping frustrations, and my inexperience, but
> I have to think there are others new to the hobby that are having
> similar thoughts. Do Amsat members see this as a problem?
>
> Probably off to spend some new money on an old radio...
>
> 73 - Ken - VA7KBM
>
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Message: 9
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 03:20:50 -0400
From: Norm n3ykf <normanlizeth@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT -BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Hard times for satellite radio buyers?
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Ettus B210. Tested with another radio as the uplink. Blasted away with
50 watts (accidentally) and the B210 didn't complain (or croak).
It has other advantages, as it's rx goes out to 6 GHz.
The amps/control hardware need way more testing before cabling all the
stuff together and trying it out. Creating a smoking pile of junk
makes me want to cry. No oopsies so far.
Computer control (using windowz) is a nightmare due to lack of support
for the B210. Lots of promises. No one has delivered. There is a Linux
solution. The dark side beckons.
Simple enough amplifier circuitry. Biggest wow was the amount of heat
produced (wasted power). Fans, heat sinks, power supplies with
regulation and filtering....
Test setup is runs from +24VDC battery stack (D cells) using surplus
power bricks. Lots of documentation on how to make them RF quiet.
The down side of these bricks is that for them to meet spec, there
must be a minimum load.
Currently portable with an 857d and an IC 7000.
The longer a product is produced, the more spare parts available and
the better the support (most of the time). The 857d is a great radio.
Strapping two together would make a great station. Much to be said for
this approach.
Norm n3ykf
On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 1:33 AM, Mike Diehl <diehl.mike.a@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Ken,
>
> I too wish for a V/U purpose built rig and in particular a portable one. A
rig with dual VFOs and full duplex capability. I don't see this type of rig
offered from the "Big 3" anytime soon.
>
> I think instead of everyone trying to get them on board, we should pursue
the smaller manufacturers. I see these Xiegu HF rigs and they look pretty
nice. My guess is a company like this has facilities to produce a nice,
modern sat rig. Perhaps we should send our votes of support to a company
that would cater to a niche market.
>
> As far as ancient tech goes, I think it still works pretty good. Used two
817s to work Russia from a park in LA county about a week ago on AO-7,
launched back in 1974. It's not the most ideal rig but it can still get the
job done.
>
> 73's
>
> Mike Diehl
> AI6GS
>
>> On Mar 18, 2017, at 10:53 PM, Ken M <va7kbm@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> Is it not hard times for new and prospective satellite operators (like
>> me) in terms of equipment choices, at least in terms of the "big three"?
>> (And, to be clear, I'm talking about current, in-production models only.)
>>
>> I'm looking for an HF base/mobile radio, and also a VHF/UHF-only
>> all-mode base/mobile radio that I can use for the linear satellites but
>> - wait - there are no VHF/UHF-only all mode radios! That means I need to
>> buy a "shack in a box" but - wait - there are only two choices (at what
>> I will call moderate prices), the ancient TS-2000 and equally ancient
>> FT-857D. There is the new and somewhat more expensive FT-991A and,
>> although that sounds like a very good radio, for HF at that price point
>> I might prefer the IC-7300 but that would mean no satellite work.
>>
>> I'm also looking for a portable HF QRP radio, and a portable radio I can
>> use for the linear satellites. Again the venerable but ancient FT-817ND
>> is pretty much the only game in town. As with the HF base radios above,
>> if I am only interested in HF QRP I would probably rather put my money
>> toward a KX2 or KX3 of newer design but, again, that would mean no
>> satellite work.
>>
>> So as a new operator, to get into linear satellites it seems I am forced
>> to either (1) troll the swap meets for ancient gear; (2) buy new gear of
>> old design (which in my mind is even worse); or (3) buy new gear of
>> modern design that works for satellite and HF, but is not necessarily
>> the radio I would choose for HF alone.
>>
>> I should add that the situation is not much better for HT/mobile radios
>> for the FM satellites, but at least there are some cost effective
>> workarounds including the less expensive Baofeng/Wouxun/Tytera radios
>> and their clones.
>>
>> Thanks for indulging my shopping frustrations, and my inexperience, but
>> I have to think there are others new to the hobby that are having
>> similar thoughts. Do Amsat members see this as a problem?
>>
>> Probably off to spend some new money on an old radio...
>>
>> 73 - Ken - VA7KBM
>>
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Message: 10
Date: Mon, 20 Mar 2017 11:02:21 +0000
From: pedro@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Kam Plus TNC Modem - AGWPE - UISS
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Hi Kurt,
I have AGWPE using a KAM+ 8.2, UISS and UI-View all at the same time.
Let me know what you need.
73 Pedro CU2ZG
Quoting Roger <ai7rogerroger@xxxxx.xxx>:
> My mistake. I use it with UI-View.
>
>
> 73, Roger
> W7TZ
> CN83ia
>
> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Roger <ai7rogerroger@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
>> I use UISS with an old PK-232mbx modem.
>>
>>
>> 73, Roger
>> W7TZ
>> CN83ia
>>
>> On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 6:41 PM, Fernando Ramirez <
>> framirezferrer@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>
>>> I use AWGPE to connect my Mobilinkd Bluetooth TNC to UISS.
>>>
>>> Haven't used the Kam TNC but here's a link that might help in connecting
>>> it
>>> to AWGPE:
>>>
>>> http://www.marqhost.com/phf/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=1572
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Fernando, NP4JV
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 19, 2017 6:29 PM, "John Brier" <johnbrier@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>>>
>>> > I don't believe UISS works with hardware modems.
>>> >
>>> > 73, John Brier KG4AKV
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 5:04 PM, Kurt Heernaert <on4cgw@xxxxx.xxx>
>>> wrote:
>>> > > Dear All,
>>> > >
>>> > > Who can helping me a little to make a start in UISS with next Items,
>>> > >
>>> > > Modem : Kam Plus alle mode modem
>>> > >
>>> > > AGWPE
>>> > >
>>> > > UISS
>>> > >
>>> > > Tnx in Advance
>>> > >
>>> > > Vy 73 ON4CGW Kurt
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