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Today's Topics:

   1. ANS-120 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins (Joe Spier)
   2. Heard the ariss contact with 14th Elementary School	Katerini,
      Greece (Koos van den Hout)
   3. 1956Z AO-7 (Gabriel Zeifman)
   4. Receiving with an rtl-sdr, desense on transmit (Koos van den Hout)
   5. SatPC32 on Ubuntu Mate/Wine (Rolf Krogstad)
   6. Re: Receiving with an rtl-sdr, desense on transmit (Eduardo PY2RN)
   7. Re: SatPC32 on Ubuntu Mate/Wine (Greg D)
   8. Re: SatPC32 on Ubuntu Mate/Wine (Greg D)
   9. Re: Receiving with an rtl-sdr, desense on transmit (Mac A. Cody)


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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2017 22:30:12 -0700
From: Joe Spier <wao@xxx.xxx>
To: ans@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-120 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-120
The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.

The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.

Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.

In this edition:

* RadFxSat(Fox-1B) Passes Mission Readiness Review
* AMSAT at the Dayton Hamvention -- Call for volunteers
* HamRadioNow: Look! Up in the Sky!
* AMSAT-UK test ESEO payload command uplink
* ARSATC Satellite Special Events Station From Brazil
* ISS Commander Peggy Whitson, ex-KC5ZTD, Sets New US Record for
    Time in Space
* AMSAT Events
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts from All Over

SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-120.01
ANS-120 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins

AMSAT News Service Bulletin 120.01
 >From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
DATE April 30, 2017
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-120.01


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RadFxSat(Fox-1B) Passes Mission Readiness Review


The RadFxSat (Fox-1B) Mission Readiness Review was held Saturday
morning, April 29th, at the Cal Poly campus in front of a board
representing
Tyvak, Cal Poly, and NASA.
The purpose of the review is to verify that all requirements are met for a
safe and successful launch and deployment. I presented 81 powerpoint
slides covering all of the ICD (Interface Control Document) requirements,
  mission, operations, and deorbit.
At the conclusion of the presentation including questions answers, the
panel
unanimously approved RadFxSat as ready for flight.  The next milestone will
be integration into the P-POD with launch scheduled NET (No Earlier than)
September 23, 2017 aboard a Delta II at Vandenberg AFB.


[ANS thanks Jerry Buxton, N0JY, AMSAT Vice-President Engineering
for the above information]


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AMSAT at the Dayton Hamvention -- Call for volunteers


The Dayton Hamvention is less than three weeks away!

It is time to be creating your shopping list and making your travel plans.

Last year, we had 45 people assist with the AMSAT booth at Dayton. We've
had a good response so far to our call for volunteers, but we could really
use another 10-15 people.

The 2017 Hamvention is May 19-21 in Xenia, Ohio.  Would you consider
helping AMSAT at the Hamvention this year?

The interaction with AMSAT members, satellite operators, designers, and
builders makes the whole experience a lot of fun.  Meet or renew
acquaintances, exchange operating tips, and find out what antennas,
software and equipment other AMSAT members use.  We currently expect
most of the AMSAT senior officers and board members to be there too.

If you're an experienced operator, great!  We can use you and your
experience.

If you've never operated a satellite before, but want to learn more,
that's OK.  We can use your help too.

Whether you're available for only a couple of hours or if you can spend the
entire weekend with us, your help would be greatly appreciated.

Please send an e-mail to Steve, n9ip@xxxxx.xxx if you can help. Thank you!


[ANS thanks Steve Belter, N9IP, Hamvention 2017 Team Leader
for the above information]


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HamRadioNow: Look! Up in the Sky!


The bulk of this episode is an on-location interview with two Raleigh NC
area hams who gave a couple of live demonstrations of operating through
satellites at the Raleigh Hamfest, April 15,  2017.

There?s some banter between hosts David Goldenberg W0DHG and Gary
Pearce KN4AQ back in the studio. And toward the end Gary announces a
Viewer Challenge that we?ll detail down below.

The satellite hams are John Brier KG4AKV and Tucker McGuire W4FS. At 18
years old, Tucker is a relatively new ham who first started operating
satellites
last summer, and quickly jumped into the deep end. John?s been around
longer, but ham radio satellites and space operation captured his focus,
too.
He produces videos about it on his YouTube channel, Space Comms.

Gary talked to John and Tucker after they completed their second demo,
and he edited a little of each demo into the interview.

There?s video of all of both demonstrations on YouTube. John shot himself
operating through ?Saudi-Sat? SO-50, a ?Mode J? FM crossband repeater
(145.850 MHz uplink and 436.795 MHz downlink). John used three cameras
(including a GoPro on a headband for a unique view). Gary edited the video
and put it on the HamRadioNow YouTube channel as an extra bit if video.

Gary added two more cameras to the mix to shoot Tucker operating through
FO-29, a Japanese satellite that uses a 100 kHz wide ?linear
transponder? for
mostly SSB and CW (and NO FM, please) between two meters and 70 cm.
There?s a few minutes of that demo in this episode, and the whole thing is
on John?s Space Comms channel.

Watch HRN 316: Look! Up in the Sky! Ham Radio Now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sKZ73sRdAAw

Space Comms
http://youtube.com/SpaceComms1

KG4AKV?s SO-50 FM operation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7dhJsfh6fYA

W4FS?s FO-29 SSB operation
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kEvsKN9ZSyw

John KG4AKV
https://twitter.com/johnbrier

Tucker W4FS
https://twitter.com/Whiskey4FoSho


[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK and HamRadio Now for the above information]


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AMSAT-UK test ESEO payload command uplink


AMSAT-UK are providing an amateur radio 1260/145 MHz FM transponder
and a 145 MHz BPSK telemetry beacon for the European Student Earth
Orbiter (ESEO) satellite.

Over the weekend of April 22-23, 2017, AMSAT-UK members met at the
Surrey Space Center to conduct some final testing of the command uplink
on the Engineering Model of their payload which will launch on the European
Space Agency ESEO mission.

The payload, which will transmit 1k2 and 4k8 BPSK telemetry on
145.895 MHz, was set up in the Arthur C Clarke building, with the
AMSAT-UK team sending commands on L-band (1260 MHz) from some
distance away in the university grounds.  A large string of attenuators
simulated the path loss to low Earth orbit, while the VHF telemetry
confirmed
the level of signal received at the ?spacecraft antenna? and that the
commands
had been executed correctly.

With the lab and range testing declared a success, work now begins on
constructing the Flight Model hardware. This is due for delivery by the
middle of
the summer so that it can be integrated into the 50 kg microsat. ESEO is
expected to be launched late this year or in the first quarter of 2018.

ESEO satellite
https://amsat-uk.org/satellites/communications/eseo/


[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information]


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ARSATC Satellite Special Events Station From Brazil


In celebration of its two-year anniversary, the ARSATC group will
activate the ZV8AR, ZZ3SA, and ZZ9TC stations.

Radio amateurs from Brazil and other countries who confirm contact
with ARSATC special stations, in which the suffixes of each special
call will form the word ARSATC, will be entitled to a commemorative
certificate alluding to the event.

Between May 1 and 30, 2017, the special calls will be activated on
the SO-50, AO-85, FO-29, AO-73, AO-7 and Lapan -02 satellites.

The confirmation will be through the Eqsl, Lotw or QRZ and sent to
the email:
qsl@xxxxxx.xxx

Prepare your antennas for good contacts.

http://arsatc.org/ (in Portuguese, use google translate)


[ANS thanks Valdir Lima and arsatc.org for the above information]


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ISS Commander Peggy Whitson, ex-KC5ZTD, Sets New US Record for
Time in Space


Current International Space Station (ISS) Commander Peggy Whitson,
ex-KC5ZTD, this week broke the record for cumulative time spent in space
by a US astronaut. President Donald Trump -- with daughter Ivanka Trump
and astronaut Kate Rubins, KG5FYJ, joining him in the Oval Office -- called
Whitson on April 24 to congratulate her on her accomplishment. With Whitson
for the call on board the ISS was astronaut Jack Fischer, KG5FYH, who
arrived
on April 20 for his first mission aboard ISS.

"Peggy is a phenomenal role model for young women, and all Americans, who
are exploring or participating in STEM education programs and careers,"
President Trump said. "When I signed the INSPIRE Women Act in February,
I did
so to ensure more women have access to STEM education and careers, and to
ensure America continues to benefit from the contributions of
trailblazers like
Peggy."

Whitson tweeted back, "Thank you, Mr. President, for the great
opportunity to
highlight the research we are doing up here aboard the space station and
beyond!"

Last November, Whitson, 57, launched to the ISS on her current mission,
with
377 days in space already under her belt, and broke the 534 cumulative-day
record in space held by Jeff Williams, KD5TVQ. Whitson became the first
woman
to command the space station in 2008, and on April 9, she became the first
woman to command it twice. She also holds the record for most spacewalks
by a female astronaut.

"This is an inspirational record Peggy is setting today, and she would
be the
first to tell you this is a record that's absolutely made to be broken
as we
advance our knowledge and existence as both Americans and humans,"
said NASA acting Administrator Robert Lightfoot.

This is Whitson's third long-duration stay on board the space station, and
her mission was recently extended for another 3 months. Instead of
returning to Earth in June as originally planned, Whitson will remain on
the
ISS until September, returning home with Fischer and Russian cosmonaut
Fyodor Yurchikhin, RN3FI.

Whitson first served aboard the ISS in 2002 as part of the Expedition 5
crew,
was the Expedition 16 commander some 5 years later, and has conducted
numerous Amateur Radio on the International Space Station (ARISS) contacts
  with students on Earth.
Whitson has since let her Amateur Radio license lapse.


[ANS thanks the ARRL and NASA for the above information]


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AMSAT Events


Information about AMSAT activities at other important events around
the country.  Examples of these events are radio club meetings where
AMSAT Area Coordinators give presentations, demonstrations of working
amateur satellites, and hamfests with an AMSAT presence (a table with
AMSAT literature and merchandise, sometimes also with presentations,
forums, and/or demonstrations).

*Saturday, 6 May 2017 ? Cochise Amateur Radio Association hamfest in
Sierra Vista AZ

*Saturday, 6 May 2017 ? Matanuska Amateur Radio Association hamfest in
Wasilla AK

*19-21 May 2017, HamVention in the Greene County Fairgrounds and
Expo Center, Dayton, Ohio

*Friday and Saturday, 9-10 June 2017, HAM-COM in Irving TX

*Saturday, 10 June 2017 ? Prescott Hamfest in Prescott AZ

*Tuesday, 20 June 2017 ? presentation for Superstition Amateur Radio Club
in Mesa AZ


[ANS thanks AMSAT-NA for the above information]


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ARISS News


Successful Contacts

*  A direct contact via SX2ISS with 14th Elementary School
Katerini, Greece
The ISS callsign was scheduled to be RS?ISS
The scheduled  astronaut wais Fyodor Yurchikhin RN3FI
Contact was successful: Sat 2017-04-29  12:02:10 UTC 69 deg

*  A direct contact with Orel, Russia
The ISS callsign was scheduled to be RS?ISS
The scheduled astronaut was Oleg  Novitskiy
Contact was successful: Sat 2017-04-29 06:05 UTC

*  Lyc?e H?l?ne Boucher, Thionville, France, direct via  F8KGY
The ISS callsign was scheduled to be FX?ISS
The scheduled  astronaut was Thomas Pesquet KG5FYG
Contact was successful: Thu 2017-04-27  08:52:17 UTC 83 deg

*  A direct contact via W6SRJ with students at Brook Haven School in
Sebastipol, CA, USA was successful Wed 2017-04-19  18:40:43 UTC 82 deg.
Astronaut Thomas Pesquet, KG5FYG, answered 19 prepared questions
for students.

Video of Contact:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lOY45DnmT8M

*  A direct contact via F6KCO with students from College Roger Martin
Du Gard, Bell?me, France was successful Fri 2017-04-14 15:20:44 UTC
Students in grades 7-10 took part in an ARISS contact with Thomas Pesquet
who answered 20 questions from the physics class. An audience of 200
watched. Academic regional representatives were also present.

Video of Contact (In French):
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FuY0bE8unU8&feature=em-upload_owner


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ARISS  is always glad to receive listener reports for the above
contacts.  ARISS
thanks everyone in advance for their assistance.  Feel free to send
your  reports
to aj9n@xxxxx.xxx or aj9n@xxx.xxx.

Listen for the ISS on  the downlink of 145.8?  MHz.

**********************************************************************

Several  of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website
and not
being  able to get in.  That has now been changed to
http://www.ariss.org/

Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this  site.

**********************************************************************

Looking  for something new to do?  How about receiving DATV from the  ISS?

If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for  complete
details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.


http://www.ariss-eu.org/

If you need some  assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some  insight.  Contact Kerry at  kbanke@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
**********************************************************************

ARISS  congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over
100 schools:

Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 123
Gaston ON4WF with  123
Francesco IK?WGF with  119

**********************************************************************

The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy.  Out of date
webpages were removed and new ones have been added.  If there are
additional ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me  know.

Note, all times are approximate.  It is recommended that you  do your own
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before  the
listed time.
All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and
time format  YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS

The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-04-06 07:00 UTC.

Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt

Total  number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1129.
Each school counts as 1  event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1090.
Each  contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of  ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.

A complete year by year  breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf

Please  feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

The  following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern
Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.

++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

QSL  information may be found at:
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html

ISS callsigns:  DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS,  RS?ISS

**********************************************************************

The  successful school list has been updated as of 2017-04-04 06:00 UTC.

http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf

Frequency  chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler  correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00  UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction.r
tf

Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf

Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts

https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
**********************************************************************

Exp. 50 on orbit
Peggy Whitson
Thomas Pesquet  KG5FYG
Oleg Novitskiy

Exp.  51 on orbit
Fyodor Yurchikhin
Jack Fisher, K2FSH

**********************************************************************

Watch
http://www.ariss.org/upcoming-contacts.html
for information about upcoming contacts as they are scheduled.


[ANS thanks ARISS and Charlie, AJ9N for the above information]


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Satellite Shorts from All Over


Saint Barts satellite operation

AI5P, N0KV, W0ZA and WD0E plan to operate from Pointe Milou, St.
Barthelemy Island (IOTA NA-146/Grid Square FK87) from October 17 - 26.
Operation will be on 80-10 meters (SSB/CW/RTTY) with satellite operation
by WD0E. Conditions may largely limit most activity to 20 meters and down.
Operating 160 meters is being considered; however, no antenna option is yet
finalized.

Satellite operation will take place on several satellites. A satellite
and  pass schedule will be announced on the AMSAT-bb in advance.

Equipment includes three Elecraft K3's and two 500 watt Elecraft amps.
Antennas include a SteppIR crank IR vertical for 80-10 meters, a folding
hexbeam by Folding Antennas (Germany) on 20-10 meters, LPDA's on 20
and 17 meters and verticals on 30 and 40 meters.

Operation will be as continuous as conditions warrant.  The Colorado
operators have decided to use FJ/N0KV as their callsign while AI5P will be
active as FJ/AI5P.

FJ/N0KV logs will be updated to LOTW while Rick's logs (FJ/AI5P) will
not since he continues to be an analog guy with an actual key and pen/paper
log. Paper QSLs will be available from both N0KV and AI5P direct and via
the bureau. US addressees send SASE; addressees outside the US should
send SAE plus $2 for return postage.
Use of Club Log is not anticipated.

Further information will be published as the trip approaches.

[ANS thanks Jim White, WD0E for the above information]


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In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.

Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.

73,
This week's ANS Editor,
Joe Spier, K6WAO
k6wao at amsat dot org


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Message: 2
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 12:42:38 +0200
From: Koos van den Hout <koos@xxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: aj9n@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Heard the ariss contact with 14th Elementary
School	Katerini, Greece
Message-ID: <20170430104238.GA12464@xxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


Yesterday was an 'open day' at our local radioclub. The radioclub is housed
in a scouting building and several scouts came to see what we were doing,
soldered a very simple electronic light and showed some real interest in
radio.

I noticed the ARISS contact with the school in Greece was during this open
day so I told the club I would demonstrate this and brought the arrow
antenna and a simple handheld radio to show the other amateurs and the
visitors that it is possible to hear an astronaut with simple means.

The announcement that we were going to hear an astronaut was received with
great joy and everybody who was there at the time came out to hear it.
After a few (tense) minutes the voice of the astronaut came through and we
al heard clear audio. Even some of the radio amateurs were surprised how
easy it is to receive signals from space.

For as far as I know nobody there understood greek so it was just the idea
of hearing an actual astronaut talk that held a crowd.

                                           Koos PE4KH

--
Koos van den Hout                          Homepage: http://idefix.net/
                                           PGP keyid 0x5BA9368BE6F334E4
Webprojects:         Camp Wireless        http://www.camp-wireless.org/
                 The Virtual Bookcase   http://www.virtualbookcase.com/


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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:37:25 +0000
From: Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@xxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT Mailing List <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] 1956Z AO-7
Message-ID:
<CAEGYLCsGy_Mmw8EN5L_U-m=rsS4MkH=AbPRH63G5entDrKKG7w@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Stations worked from the previous AO-7 pass on the HP83/84 line by TF/NJ7H:

KO4MA, K8YSE, W0JW, N8HM, AA9LC, AC0RA, NJ1H, N1AIA, WA4NVM. K4FEG, VE4AMU,
KB1RVT, KG5CCI, WN9Q, K4YYL

No insurance contacts, please. This upcoming pass is the only chance for
western stations to get this rare DXCC and grids.

73,

Gabe
NJ7H


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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 21:57:23 +0200
From: Koos van den Hout <koos@xxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Receiving with an rtl-sdr, desense on transmit
Message-ID: <20170430195723.GA28001@xxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii


I am trying to go full duplex 'on the cheap' by using an rtl-sdr on the
receiving side, keeping an ear on the downlink while transmitting.

Software wise this all seems to work. I use a linux setup, with gpredict to
track the satellites and calculate doppler shift. The gqrx sdr software can
act like a radio that gpredict can control so the receiving frequency is
correct. It controls both gqrx as receiver and my ft-857 as transmitter.

Hardware wise I bought an rtl-sdr with a small preamp and built the pre-amp
into a metal case.

This works up to the level where I received AO-73 and received a weak
Fox-1A and recorded the pass.

But when I pressed the transmit button on the FT-857 (tuned to the 70cm
uplink frequency) the receiver (tuned to the 2m downlink frequency) went
deaf.

Some testing with the arrow antenna and transmitting on 70cm shows the
preamp turns deaf on 2 meter. Even without the preamp but with the internal
amplifier of the rtl-sdr this happens. Setting the gain to 'automatic'
causes a huge drop in signal and takes time to recover.

Complete details, experiences, pictures of my setup and details I left out
start at
https://idefix.net/~koos/newsitem.cgi/1490542545

- has anybody done anything with an rtl-sdr as the receiving side, how do
  you setup the gain? Is there a solution to fix this?

- specific to fox-1a: I am reading somewhat different reports of the
  downlink and uplink frequencies when I search with google. I hope
http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=4690 is right. I did notice the signal is
weak even with an amplifier.

Thanks for any insights and tips,

                                       Koos PE4KH

--
Koos van den Hout           PGP keyid 0x5BA9368BE6F334E4 via keyservers
                                             IPv6: Think ::/0, act ::1.
http://idefix.net/              Are you ready to start supporting IPv6?


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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 15:19:07 -0500
From: Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 on Ubuntu Mate/Wine
Message-ID:
<CAJJyj=YTGdo6zJS=qf17JGWFR0J-Ru-7LAmY6Cu3uYGt31=HgQ@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I am playing with Ubuntu Mate in hopes of replacing the aged PC I use for
satellite work.  I have installed Wine 1.8.7 and SatPC32 v12.8c.  I can't
get my COM ports working

The problem I am having is getting the Radio Setup of SatPC32 to work.
Note: I have radio control working with this same USB-COM device (with two
com ports) on the old Windows XP system which I am hoping to replace.  Same
Radios and Same USB-COM devices work on Windows XP.  The only variable here
is Ubuntu Mate Operating System.

I have verified that the FTDI USB-COM is shown as /dev/ttyUSB0 and ttyUSB1.
I run dmesg and it gives me the following:
[ 7162.258726] usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0403, idProduct=6010
[ 7162.258736] usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
SerialNumber=3
[ 7162.258744] usb 3-1: Product: USB FAST SERIAL ADAPTER
[ 7162.258750] usb 3-1: Manufacturer: FTDI
[ 7162.258757] usb 3-1: SerialNumber: FT5V2HZV
[ 7162.269942] ftdi_sio 3-1:1.0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
[ 7162.270131] usb 3-1: Detected FT2232C
[ 7162.273835] usb 3-1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to
ttyUSB0
[ 7162.277760] ftdi_sio 3-1:1.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
[ 7162.277816] usb 3-1: Detected FT2232C
[ 7162.281895] usb 3-1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to
ttyUSB1

I then went to /home/rolf/.wine/dosdevices and created symbolic links to
com3 and com4.  I also tried com1 and com2.

lrwxrwxrwx 1 rolf rolf   12 Apr 28 20:37 com3 -> /dev/ttyUSB0
lrwxrwxrwx 1 rolf rolf   12 Apr 28 20:39 com4 -> /dev/ttyUSB1

Then I go into radio control in SatPC32 and define the proper com ports for
radio 1 and radio two.  I exit SatPC32 and then reopen.

As SatPC32 opens I get two error messages, one for each com port defined in
radio control:
"Could not open COM3 for Radio 1.
Check whether COM3 is available on your system..."

I get the corresponding error message for COM4 on Radio 2.

Any linux experts who can help me with ideas on how to get the USB-COM
devices recognized in Wine?

Thanks

Rolf   NR0T
EN34


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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 20:26:43 +0000 (UTC)
From: Eduardo PY2RN <py2rn@xxxx.xxx>
To: Koos van den Hout <koos@xxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx>, 	"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Receiving with an rtl-sdr, desense on transmit
Message-ID: <1937347249.1661286.1493584003144@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi Koos, I suggest not using preamp since the RTL-SDR has way too much gain
already, unless your preamp is narrow band (has a?built in pass-band filter,
ie: 144 -148MHz) it may be useful as a filter, but in any case you need to
adjust manually RTL-SDR AGC to a minimum necessary gain. AO-85 uplink freq
435.180 ST 67.0hz, dwlink 145.980.
73
Ed PY2RN
      From: Koos van den Hout <koos@xxxxxx.xxxxxx.xx>
 To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
 Sent: Sunday, April 30, 2017 4:57 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] Receiving with an rtl-sdr, desense on transmit


I am trying to go full duplex 'on the cheap' by using an rtl-sdr on the
receiving side, keeping an ear on the downlink while transmitting.

Software wise this all seems to work. I use a linux setup, with gpredict to
track the satellites and calculate doppler shift. The gqrx sdr software can
act like a radio that gpredict can control so the receiving frequency is
correct. It controls both gqrx as receiver and my ft-857 as transmitter.

Hardware wise I bought an rtl-sdr with a small preamp and built the pre-amp
into a metal case.

This works up to the level where I received AO-73 and received a weak
Fox-1A and recorded the pass.

But when I pressed the transmit button on the FT-857 (tuned to the 70cm
uplink frequency) the receiver (tuned to the 2m downlink frequency) went
deaf.

Some testing with the arrow antenna and transmitting on 70cm shows the
preamp turns deaf on 2 meter. Even without the preamp but with the internal
amplifier of the rtl-sdr this happens. Setting the gain to 'automatic'
causes a huge drop in signal and takes time to recover.

Complete details, experiences, pictures of my setup and details I left out
start at
https://idefix.net/~koos/newsitem.cgi/1490542545

- has anybody done anything with an rtl-sdr as the receiving side, how do
? you setup the gain? Is there a solution to fix this?

- specific to fox-1a: I am reading somewhat different reports of the
? downlink and uplink frequencies when I search with google. I hope
http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=4690 is right. I did notice the signal is
weak even with an amplifier.

Thanks for any insights and tips,

? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? Koos PE4KH

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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 15:28:13 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 on Ubuntu Mate/Wine
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The only other thing I've needed to do in general (haven't tried SatPC32
specifically), is to add the group "dialout" to your account.  Or run
SatPC32 under wine as root (not recommended, just on principles).

Good luck,

Greg  KO6TH


Rolf Krogstad wrote:
> I am playing with Ubuntu Mate in hopes of replacing the aged PC I use for
> satellite work.  I have installed Wine 1.8.7 and SatPC32 v12.8c.  I can't
> get my COM ports working
>
> The problem I am having is getting the Radio Setup of SatPC32 to work.
> Note: I have radio control working with this same USB-COM device (with two
> com ports) on the old Windows XP system which I am hoping to replace.  Same
> Radios and Same USB-COM devices work on Windows XP.  The only variable here
> is Ubuntu Mate Operating System.
>
> I have verified that the FTDI USB-COM is shown as /dev/ttyUSB0 and ttyUSB1.
> I run dmesg and it gives me the following:
> [ 7162.258726] usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0403, idProduct=6010
> [ 7162.258736] usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
> SerialNumber=3
> [ 7162.258744] usb 3-1: Product: USB FAST SERIAL ADAPTER
> [ 7162.258750] usb 3-1: Manufacturer: FTDI
> [ 7162.258757] usb 3-1: SerialNumber: FT5V2HZV
> [ 7162.269942] ftdi_sio 3-1:1.0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
> [ 7162.270131] usb 3-1: Detected FT2232C
> [ 7162.273835] usb 3-1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to
> ttyUSB0
> [ 7162.277760] ftdi_sio 3-1:1.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
> [ 7162.277816] usb 3-1: Detected FT2232C
> [ 7162.281895] usb 3-1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to
> ttyUSB1
>
> I then went to /home/rolf/.wine/dosdevices and created symbolic links to
> com3 and com4.  I also tried com1 and com2.
>
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 rolf rolf   12 Apr 28 20:37 com3 -> /dev/ttyUSB0
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 rolf rolf   12 Apr 28 20:39 com4 -> /dev/ttyUSB1
>
> Then I go into radio control in SatPC32 and define the proper com ports for
> radio 1 and radio two.  I exit SatPC32 and then reopen.
>
> As SatPC32 opens I get two error messages, one for each com port defined in
> radio control:
> "Could not open COM3 for Radio 1.
> Check whether COM3 is available on your system..."
>
> I get the corresponding error message for COM4 on Radio 2.
>
> Any linux experts who can help me with ideas on how to get the USB-COM
> devices recognized in Wine?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rolf   NR0T
> EN34
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 15:28:24 -0700
From: Greg D <ko6th.greg@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Rolf Krogstad <rolf.krogstad@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "<AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] SatPC32 on Ubuntu Mate/Wine
Message-ID: <33f0e7ce-436f-9444-8c4c-60324093719b@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

The only other thing I've needed to do in general (haven't tried SatPC32
specifically), is to add the group "dialout" to your account.  Or run
SatPC32 under wine as root (not recommended, just on principles).

Good luck,

Greg  KO6TH


Rolf Krogstad wrote:
> I am playing with Ubuntu Mate in hopes of replacing the aged PC I use for
> satellite work.  I have installed Wine 1.8.7 and SatPC32 v12.8c.  I can't
> get my COM ports working
>
> The problem I am having is getting the Radio Setup of SatPC32 to work.
> Note: I have radio control working with this same USB-COM device (with two
> com ports) on the old Windows XP system which I am hoping to replace.  Same
> Radios and Same USB-COM devices work on Windows XP.  The only variable here
> is Ubuntu Mate Operating System.
>
> I have verified that the FTDI USB-COM is shown as /dev/ttyUSB0 and ttyUSB1.
> I run dmesg and it gives me the following:
> [ 7162.258726] usb 3-1: New USB device found, idVendor=0403, idProduct=6010
> [ 7162.258736] usb 3-1: New USB device strings: Mfr=1, Product=2,
> SerialNumber=3
> [ 7162.258744] usb 3-1: Product: USB FAST SERIAL ADAPTER
> [ 7162.258750] usb 3-1: Manufacturer: FTDI
> [ 7162.258757] usb 3-1: SerialNumber: FT5V2HZV
> [ 7162.269942] ftdi_sio 3-1:1.0: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
> [ 7162.270131] usb 3-1: Detected FT2232C
> [ 7162.273835] usb 3-1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to
> ttyUSB0
> [ 7162.277760] ftdi_sio 3-1:1.1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter detected
> [ 7162.277816] usb 3-1: Detected FT2232C
> [ 7162.281895] usb 3-1: FTDI USB Serial Device converter now attached to
> ttyUSB1
>
> I then went to /home/rolf/.wine/dosdevices and created symbolic links to
> com3 and com4.  I also tried com1 and com2.
>
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 rolf rolf   12 Apr 28 20:37 com3 -> /dev/ttyUSB0
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 rolf rolf   12 Apr 28 20:39 com4 -> /dev/ttyUSB1
>
> Then I go into radio control in SatPC32 and define the proper com ports for
> radio 1 and radio two.  I exit SatPC32 and then reopen.
>
> As SatPC32 opens I get two error messages, one for each com port defined in
> radio control:
> "Could not open COM3 for Radio 1.
> Check whether COM3 is available on your system..."
>
> I get the corresponding error message for COM4 on Radio 2.
>
> Any linux experts who can help me with ideas on how to get the USB-COM
> devices recognized in Wine?
>
> Thanks
>
> Rolf   NR0T
> EN34
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 30 Apr 2017 18:06:17 -0500
From: "Mac A. Cody" <maccody@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Receiving with an rtl-sdr, desense on transmit
Message-ID: <62c8094b-f34e-17dc-7d99-5ffb838281f9@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

Koos,

I am working on a similar project and started with an RTLSDR device.  I
have since switched to using an SDRPlay RSP2, due to its better input
filter, Digital resolution, and shielding.

One problem with these RTLSDR devices is that they have very broad-banded
input filters.  Consequently, the transmitter signal, although
attenuated, is
received by the RTLSDR, causing it to desense.  You will need add more
filtering to sufficiently attenuate signals outside of the receiver band
of interest.

73,

Mac / AE5PH


On 04/30/2017 02:57 PM, Koos van den Hout wrote:
> I am trying to go full duplex 'on the cheap' by using an rtl-sdr on the
> receiving side, keeping an ear on the downlink while transmitting.
>
> Software wise this all seems to work. I use a linux setup, with gpredict to
> track the satellites and calculate doppler shift. The gqrx sdr software can
> act like a radio that gpredict can control so the receiving frequency is
> correct. It controls both gqrx as receiver and my ft-857 as transmitter.
>
> Hardware wise I bought an rtl-sdr with a small preamp and built the pre-amp
> into a metal case.
>
> This works up to the level where I received AO-73 and received a weak
> Fox-1A and recorded the pass.
>
> But when I pressed the transmit button on the FT-857 (tuned to the 70cm
> uplink frequency) the receiver (tuned to the 2m downlink frequency) went
> deaf.
>
> Some testing with the arrow antenna and transmitting on 70cm shows the
> preamp turns deaf on 2 meter. Even without the preamp but with the internal
> amplifier of the rtl-sdr this happens. Setting the gain to 'automatic'
> causes a huge drop in signal and takes time to recover.
>
> Complete details, experiences, pictures of my setup and details I left out
> start at
> https://idefix.net/~koos/newsitem.cgi/1490542545
>
> - has anybody done anything with an rtl-sdr as the receiving side, how do
>    you setup the gain? Is there a solution to fix this?
>
> - specific to fox-1a: I am reading somewhat different reports of the
>    downlink and uplink frequencies when I search with google. I hope
> http://www.amsat.org/?page_id=4690 is right. I did notice the signal is
> weak even with an amplifier.
>
> Thanks for any insights and tips,
>
>                                         Koos PE4KH
>



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