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Today's Topics:
1. ANS-148 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins (E.Mike McCardel)
2. LilacSat-1 and Codec2 (Tom Schuessler)
3. Recent LoTW Upload (R.T.Liddy)
4. SatPC32 (Vincenzo Mone)
5. Re: LilacSat-1 and Codec2 (W M WILLOUGHBY)
6. Echo Lima Rover Rover (Gabriel Zeifman)
7. Re: Echo Lima Rover Rover (R.T.Liddy)
8. EN82 and EN83 Line (Ruth)
9. Memorial Day EN82 EN83 operation (Ruth Willet)
10. Re: Memorial Day EN82 EN83 operation (Mac A. Cody)
11. Re: Ham Radios on Princess Cruises (Lee Maisel)
12. Re: Ham Radios on Princess Cruises (Jeff Moore)
13. Re: Ham Radios on Princess Cruises (Paul Stoetzer)
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Message: 1
Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 22:56:44 -0400
From: "E.Mike McCardel" <mccardelm@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat - BBs <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] ANS-148 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
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AMSAT NEWS SERVICE
ANS-148
The AMSAT News Service bulletins are a free, weekly news and infor-
mation service of AMSAT North America, The Radio Amateur Satellite
Corporation. ANS publishes news related to Amateur Radio in Space
including reports on the activities of a worldwide group of Amateur
Radio operators who share an active interest in designing, building,
launching and communicating through analog and digital Amateur Radio
satellites.
The news feed on http://www.amsat.org publishes news of Amateur
Radio in Space as soon as our volunteers can post it.
Please send any amateur satellite news or reports to:
ans-editor at amsat.org.
In this edition:
* 2017 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Nominations Notice
* Spring 2017 CubeSat Workshop Presentations and Video Posted
* LilacSat-1 Deployed From ISS and Is Operational
* February launch for Jordanian CubeSat
* ARISS News
* Satellite Shorts From All Over
SB SAT @ AMSAT $ANS-148.01
ANS-148 AMSAT News Service Weekly Bulletins
AMSAT News Service Bulletin 148.01
>From AMSAT HQ KENSINGTON, MD.
May 28, 2017
To All RADIO AMATEURS
BID: $ANS-148.01
2017 AMSAT-NA Board of Directors Nominations Notice
It's time to submit nominations for the upcoming AMSAT-NA Board of
Directors election. Four directors' terms expire this year: Barry
Baines, WD4ASW, Jerry Buxton, N0JY, Drew Glasbrenner, KO4MA, and Bob
McGwier, N4HY. In addition, up to two Alternates may be elected for
one year terms.
A valid nomination requires either one Member Society or five current
individual members in good standing to nominate an AMSAT-NA member for
Director. Written nominations, consisting of the nominee's name and
call, and the nominating individual's names, calls and individual
signatures should be mailed to: AMSAT-NA, 10605 Concord St, #304
Kensington, MD 20895-2526.
In addition to traditional submissions of written nominations, which
is the preferred method, the intent to nominate someone may be made by
electronic means. These include e-mail, fax, or electronic image of a
petition. Electronic petitions should be sent to martha@xxxxx.xxx or
faxed to (301)822-4371.
No matter what means is used, petitions MUST arrive no later than June
15th at the AMSAT-NA office. If the nomination is a traditional
written nomination, no other action is required. If it is other than
this, i.e. electronic, a verifying traditional written petition MUST
be received at the AMSAT-NA office at the above address within 7 days
following the close of nominations on June 15th.
ELECTRONIC SUBMISSIONS WITHOUT THIS SECOND, WRITTEN VERIFICATION ARE
NOT VALID UNDER THE EXISTING AMSAT-NA BYLAWS.
[ANS thanks AMSAT Office for the above information]
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Spring 2017 CubeSat Workshop Presentations and Video Posted
This year was the biggest CubeSat Workshop yet, with almost 550
attendees from 19 different countries
The 2017 CubeSat Developers Workshop has posted all presentations at:
http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/~workshop/archive/ (2017 & Spring folders)
You can also find all video footage from the workshop on their
YouTube channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCENz0fNHsDR8Kz3jM6C_VWw
[ANS thanks the CubeSat Team for the above information]
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LilacSat-1 Deployed From ISS and Is Operational
LilacSat-1 has improved their documentation correcting their links.
The satellite was deployed from ISS and is operational.
https://amsat-uk.org/2017/05/19/lilacsat-1-cubesat-iss/
http://lilacsat.hit.edu.cn/?page_id=594
FM to Codec2 digital audio repeater of LilacSat-1 is now switched on.
145.985 PL 67 UP, 436.510 DOWN
It seems a few folks keep posting LilacSat-1 information in the
Twitter format and toss in a few links. Here is another link if it
helps any ...
http://destevez.net/2016/10/lilacsat-1-codec-2-downlink/
Built by students at the Harbin Institute of Technology the new
LilacSat CubeSat has a 145/436 MHz FM / Codec2-BPSK Digital Voice
transponder. It will deploy from the ISS at 0815 GMT Tuesday, May 23.
The Lilac 2 satellite multi-mode transponder can work as an APRS
digipeater and FM repeater.
The science goals of the mission include building flight software
development for an on-orbit test platform, which is used to analyze
the effect of space single particle effects on FPGA software function
and performance. The satellite also includes equipment for global
flight ADS-B and monitoring and tracking of large wildlife traces and
other tasks. The satellite also carries an industrial infrared camera
to explore the feasibility and effectiveness of using satellite
satellites to monitor the environment.
The FM transponder is expected to be a popular mode using amateur
radio FM walkie-talkies or mobile radios. The voice filter passband
is in the range of 300~3500 Hz. Below 300Hz below the sub-audio in
the form of baseband data emplying a CCSDS mode of 300 bps telemetry
data transmission.
The BJ1SI-1 APRS digipeater will immediately forward the received UI
frame in real-time.
The BJ1SI-2 APRS digipeater will allow delayed forwarding with a
user specified forwarding path and an ASCII coded time delay.
Uplink
-------
+ Frequency 145.985 MHz PL 67
+ Antenna 1/4 wavelength monopole, linear polarization
+ FM repeater Analog voice, no PL
+ APRS Digi AX.25 UI 1200 bps AFSK
Downlink
--------
+ Frequency 436.510 MHz
+ Callsign BJ1SI
+ Antenna Turnstile
LHCP (Forward, main lobe)
RHCP (Backward)
+ Telemetry CSP/CSP + AX.25 UI (Cube Satellite Space Protocol) was
originally developed by the AAUSAT3 team at the University of
Aalborg in Denmark and is an open source, lightweight network layer
protocol)
+ FM repeater Analog voice + CSP
+ APRS Digi AX.25 UI 1200 bps AFSK
+ Power 23/27 dBm
[ANS thanks the Harbin Institute of Technology for the above
information]
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February launch for Jordanian CubeSat
Fourth year electrical engineering student Aya Jaafari is a member
of the JY1-SAT team. She says working on the CubeSat has allowed her
to practically implement a lot of what she
learns theoretically at university
The Jordan Times reports on the country's first CubeSat JY1-SAT
which was built under the Masar initiative of the Crown Prince
Foundation (CPF), by 16 young Jordanian men and women. The satellite
is scheduled to be launched on a mission in February 2018, a date on
which the team pins great hopes and ambitions.
These young Jordanians were supervised by a group of experts and
academics through their weekly meetings held at the Royal Jordanian
Radio Amateurs Society (RJRAS).
JY1-SAT was chosen as a tribute to His Majesty the Late King Hussein
of Jordan whose amateur radio call sign was JY1.
The CubeSat will carry an Amateur Radio FUNcube 435/145 MHz SSB/CW
transponder and a Slow Scan Digital Video (SSDV) system to transmit
stored images reflecting the Jordanian culture and its historical
heritage.
Read the full story at
http://tinyurl.com/ANS148-Jordanian-Nanosat
Royal Jordanian Radio Amateurs Society
https://www.facebook.com/jy6zz/
JY6JY is a dedicated ground station to be used for communication
with JY1-SAT. The call sign JY6JY is registered to the Office of
Royal Highness Crown Prince Al Hussein Bin Abdullah II of Jordan
https://www.qrz.com/db/JY6JY
JY1SAT applies for frequency coordination
https://amsat-uk.org/2017/05/16/jy1sat-frequency-coordination/
[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information]
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ARISS News
+ A Successful contact was made between Saint Joseph School,
Ronkonkoma, NY and Astronaut Jack Fisher K2FSH using Callsign NA1SS.
The contact began 2017-05-22 12:35 UTC and lasted about nine and a
half minutes. Contact was telebridge via W6SRJ.
ARISS Mentors were Dave AA4KN and Bob WB4SON.
Special Congratulations
ANS would like to congratulate the Santa Rosa Jr College Amateur
Radio Club W6SRJ and trustee Tim Bosma W6MU for their 100th
successful ARISS contact during the telebridge with Saint Joseph
School, Ronkonkoma, NY on May 22
Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule
Australian Air League South Australia Wing, Elizabeth, South Australia,
Australia, telebridge via W6SRJ
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Thomas Pesquet KG5FYG
Contact is a go: Wed 2017-05-31 09:35:31 UTC
[ANS thanks ARISS, Charlie AJ9N and David AA4KN for the above
information]
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Satellite Shorts From All Over
+ CubeSat Workshop presentations available
The 2017 CubeSat Developers Workshop, held in San Luis Obispo CA
April 26-28, was the biggest event yet, with almost 550 attendees
from 19 different countries!
All 2017 presentation slides are now available online at
http://mstl.atl.calpoly.edu/%7Eworkshop/archive/
You can also find all video footage from the workshop at
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCENz0fNHsDR8Kz3jM6C_VWw
Stay tuned for the announcement of the dates for the 15th Annual
Developers Workshop next year
http://www.cubesat.org/
[ANS thanks AMSAT-UK for the above information]
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In addition to regular membership, AMSAT offers membership in the
President's Club. Members of the President's Club, as sustaining
donors to AMSAT Project Funds, will be eligible to receive addi-
tional benefits. Application forms are available from the AMSAT
Office.
Primary and secondary school students are eligible for membership
at one-half the standard yearly rate. Post-secondary school students
enrolled in at least half time status shall be eligible for the stu-
dent rate for a maximum of 6 post-secondary years in this status.
Contact Martha at the AMSAT Office for additional student membership
information.
73,
This week's ANS Editor,
EMike McCardel, AA8EM
aa8em at amsat dot org
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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 27 May 2017 22:25:40 -0500
From: "Tom Schuessler" <tjschuessler@xxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-1 and Codec2
Message-ID: <001c01d2d762$16fecd50$44fc67f0$@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
OK I'm NOT a Linux guy. Let's see if we can do LilacSat-1 for the rest of
us.
What I have been able to figure out is that Codec2 is a digital voice codec
that creates audio speech out of some input data. If I read things right,
LilacSat-1's concept here is to take analog FM (PL tone of 67HZ to open it's
squelch), input and digitize the audio and then encode what it hears to
digital data using the Codec2 process. That data is transmitted on a 9600
data stream BPSK decoded by an application. I think that is a good basic
explanation of the system. A unique concept.
Now back to not being a Linux person. I see the posts on the BB dealing
with folks using GNU radio to decode the data. GNU Radio which is a Linux
Digital voice program apparently can be ported to Windows, but the install
process is very touchy feely. My looking at pages about Codec2 I get
references to the "FreeDV" program. I found they do have a Windows
installer for FreeDV. Is that the accepted program for this purpose using
CODEC2? After installing the FreeDV program, I see that there are different
flavors of the Codec it uses, but only some of them seem to match what is
noted as flavors on the Codec2 development page. Which actual flavor is the
LilacSat-1 system using?
I intend to give this a listen sometime this long weekend to see if I can
decode anything. Should be interesting. Does anyone have raw downlink data
samples that I could use to test what the FreeDV program can "hear"?
Thanks for the insights.
Tom Schuessler, N5HYP
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Message: 3
Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 04:20:27 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>, Starcom <starcom-bb@xxxxxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Recent LoTW Upload
Message-ID: <1220856981.1559798.1495945227979@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
All Qs from my recent trip to FM16/26/27/28/29
have been uploaded to LoTW. Let me know if you
don't see one of yours there & include the particulars.
My old ears might have botched something during
all that rain & wind - HIHI.
73, Bob K8BL
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Message: 4
Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 14:45:17 +0200
From: Vincenzo Mone <vimone@xxxxx.xx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] SatPC32
Message-ID: <06C1F3F4-EEB6-4F9B-9409-C26092D7798F@xxxxx.xx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hello Folks,
I am trying to understand how the SaPC32 works before I go to purchase it.
I see there al several groups like:
Amateur.txt
Cubesat.txt
Geo.txt
Intelsat.txt
Nasa.txt
OrbsManu.ele
Weather.txt
If I understood in each group you can put at maximum 12 satellites.
I want to know if I am looking the Cubesat.txt group and a satellite from
another group like Amateur.txt, will I be advised even if it is in a
different group that I am looking?
Is there any site that can explain me how it works?
Where to buy it with credit card?
Any help will be really appreciated.
73's de Enzo IK8OZV
************************************
****** GSM +39 328 7110193 ******
***** SMS +39 328 7110193 ******
************************************
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Message: 5
Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 07:50:15 -0500
From: W M WILLOUGHBY <redski@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] LilacSat-1 and Codec2
Message-ID: <9187B8CD-D82C-480C-933C-8568255B11D4@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
Tom, see the Twitter feed for @xxxxx - he is helping @xxxxxx get this
running under Windows. It is my understanding that you must run a Virtual
Machine to operate Linux and then get the Codec working under Linux. All
this is far from trivial and I cannot see this concept getting much use from
amateur satellite operators if everyone has to muddle through this without
some detailed instructions. It's a good thing you have a long weekend to
work on it ? you will need it. And that is not meant to be disparaging ? I
am going to try to get this working at my station in the coming week.
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Message: 6
Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 11:40:50 -0500
From: Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Echo Lima Rover Rover
Message-ID: <1B6DBEAC-370C-475B-9D0E-772CEDE47B27@xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Hello bird people,
Short notice roving today. Just departed Austin EM10 heading south. Goal is
to activate EL17/18/19, which will complete my second /r transcon line
between Mexico and Canada (EL15-EN19), longest I've done so far is
EL06-EO01. Secondary goal is EL28/29, not sure if we'll have time to do it
today. No plan for passes, I'll get on something when I get there. Hit me up
on Twitter if you have a request, no promises on being able to make anything
specific.
My little brother is behind the wheel today with his learners permit, wish
me luck. He intends to listen to video game podcasts or something the whole
time, so hopefully I'll retain enough of my sanity to be capable of
operating a satellite.
Tracking on APRS NJ7H-7 and Iridium share.garmin.com/gz
73,
Gabe
NJ7H
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Message: 7
Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 18:25:52 +0000 (UTC)
From: "R.T.Liddy" <k8bl@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@xxxxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Echo Lima Rover Rover
Message-ID: <526447634.1851808.1495995952102@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Gabe,
I have 2 Grandsons that watch OTHER PEOPLE playing
video games on YouTube. I can't relate. Maybe it's like
watching other guys working SATs. ;-)
-BL
________________________________
From: Gabriel Zeifman <gabrielzeifman@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Sunday, May 28, 2017 12:41 PM
Subject: [amsat-bb] Echo Lima Rover Rover
Hello bird people,
Short notice roving today. Just departed Austin EM10 heading south. Goal is
to activate EL17/18/19, which will complete my second /r transcon line
between Mexico and Canada (EL15-EN19), longest I've done so far is
EL06-EO01. Secondary goal is EL28/29, not sure if we'll have time to do it
today. No plan for passes, I'll get on something when I get there. Hit me up
on Twitter if you have a request, no promises on being able to make anything
specific.
My little brother is behind the wheel today with his learners permit, wish
me luck. He intends to listen to video game podcasts or something the whole
time, so hopefully I'll retain enough of my sanity to be capable of
operating a satellite.
Tracking on APRS NJ7H-7 and Iridium share.garmin.com/gz
73,
Gabe
NJ7H
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Message: 8
Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 12:15:56 -0400
From: Ruth <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] EN82 and EN83 Line
Message-ID: <FF0A7D44-3490-407F-A9E6-101E5FC91F0F@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Would anyone be interested in a EN82/EN83 grid line operation sometime
tomorrow (Memorial Day, May 29th, 2017)? I may be able to do the 18:01Z
AO-85 pass from the grid line.
73,
Ruth
KM4LAO
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Message: 9
Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 15:58:39 -0400
From: Ruth Willet <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx>
To: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Memorial Day EN82 EN83 operation
Message-ID: <FA365249-7F4D-4F94-A4D0-8C0135FA998B@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Reposting this since I'm not sure it went through the first time.
Would anyone be interested in a EN82/EN83 grid line operation sometime
tomorrow (Memorial Day, May 29th, 2017)? I may be able to do the 18:01Z
AO-85 pass from the grid line.
73,
Ruth
KM4LAO
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Message: 10
Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 15:35:46 -0500
From: "Mac A. Cody" <maccody@xxx.xxx>
To: Ruth Willet <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Memorial Day EN82 EN83 operation
Message-ID: <c9590c08-1dca-5b1b-16fc-e50fe1846bb8@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Ruth,
I have EN82, but not EN83. In my case, half a loaf is better than none,
so if you are serving, I'll be happy to partake!
73,
Mac / AE5PH
On 05/28/2017 02:58 PM, Ruth Willet wrote:
> Reposting this since I'm not sure it went through the first time.
>
> Would anyone be interested in a EN82/EN83 grid line operation sometime
tomorrow (Memorial Day, May 29th, 2017)? I may be able to do the 18:01Z
AO-85 pass from the grid line.
>
> 73,
> Ruth
> KM4LAO
>
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Message: 11
Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 18:05:49 -0600
From: Lee Maisel <maisel@xxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ham Radios on Princess Cruises
Message-ID: <2d18abc1-267c-485e-a3bf-48ebc44fd4d1@xxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed
Post this to QRZ Forums. Perhaps enough pressure on Princess will get
policies fixed.
On 5/24/2017 4:46 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
> This is a very interesting item. Being a multi-time Princess cruiser, I
> have requested, received permission for, and taken ham radios on a dozen
> cruises over almost two decades. Today, in following up on my
> unanswered request for our upcoming cruise, I was informed through our
> Princess travel agent that the department which handles the amateur
> radio requests says that there will be no more permissions given as ham
> radios have been added to the prohibited items list by Princess
> Security. Interestingly, FRS is not on that same list.
>
> We had a bit of a discussion about it but of course the agent is not in
> any position to do more than handling the request to the person in
> charge of that, so there won't be any VP9/N0JY/MM on this cruise. To
> make it worse, that would also prohibit even taking the HTs along for
> use on land as we tour the British Isles. I am totally bummed.
>
> Does anybody on this list work for Princess Cruises, maybe have some
> thoughts on this? :-)
>
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Message: 12
Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 18:40:41 -0700
From: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ham Radios on Princess Cruises
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
Cancel your cruise and be very specific as to why you are doing so and then
book on a line that WILL let you bring your radios!! Hams deserve better
treatment than this!
7 3
Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Lee Maisel <maisel@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Post this to QRZ Forums. Perhaps enough pressure on Princess will get
> policies fixed.
>
>
>
> On 5/24/2017 4:46 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
>
>> This is a very interesting item. Being a multi-time Princess cruiser, I
>> have requested, received permission for, and taken ham radios on a dozen
>> cruises over almost two decades. Today, in following up on my
>> unanswered request for our upcoming cruise, I was informed through our
>> Princess travel agent that the department which handles the amateur
>> radio requests says that there will be no more permissions given as ham
>> radios have been added to the prohibited items list by Princess
>> Security. Interestingly, FRS is not on that same list.
>>
>> We had a bit of a discussion about it but of course the agent is not in
>> any position to do more than handling the request to the person in
>> charge of that, so there won't be any VP9/N0JY/MM on this cruise. To
>> make it worse, that would also prohibit even taking the HTs along for
>> use on land as we tour the British Isles. I am totally bummed.
>>
>> Does anybody on this list work for Princess Cruises, maybe have some
>> thoughts on this? :-)
>>
>>
>
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Message: 13
Date: Sun, 28 May 2017 21:42:54 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: Amsat BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Ham Radios on Princess Cruises
Message-ID:
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"
I do think a letter from the ARRL to all the cruise companies might be a
good idea. Very few cruise lines allow amateur radio anymore and that's a
shame. Operating from the Carnival Liberty during the AMSAT cruise last
year was great fun!
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 9:40 PM, Jeff Moore <tnetcenter@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Cancel your cruise and be very specific as to why you are doing so and then
> book on a line that WILL let you bring your radios!! Hams deserve better
> treatment than this!
>
> 7 3
> Jeff Moore -- KE7ACY
>
>
> On Sun, May 28, 2017 at 5:05 PM, Lee Maisel <maisel@xxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> > Post this to QRZ Forums. Perhaps enough pressure on Princess will get
> > policies fixed.
> >
> >
> >
> > On 5/24/2017 4:46 PM, Jerry Buxton wrote:
> >
> >> This is a very interesting item. Being a multi-time Princess cruiser, I
> >> have requested, received permission for, and taken ham radios on a dozen
> >> cruises over almost two decades. Today, in following up on my
> >> unanswered request for our upcoming cruise, I was informed through our
> >> Princess travel agent that the department which handles the amateur
> >> radio requests says that there will be no more permissions given as ham
> >> radios have been added to the prohibited items list by Princess
> >> Security. Interestingly, FRS is not on that same list.
> >>
> >> We had a bit of a discussion about it but of course the agent is not in
> >> any position to do more than handling the request to the person in
> >> charge of that, so there won't be any VP9/N0JY/MM on this cruise. To
> >> make it worse, that would also prohibit even taking the HTs along for
> >> use on land as we tour the British Isles. I am totally bummed.
> >>
> >> Does anybody on this list work for Princess Cruises, maybe have some
> >> thoughts on this? :-)
> >>
> >>
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