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Today's Topics:

   1. Re: Automatic GS Tracking Satellites Software (GEO Badger)
   2. Upcoming ARISS contact with Greater Niagara Frontier	Council
      BSA, Buffalo, NY (n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
   3. Re: DTUSAT-2 (Fer)
   4. Re: DTUSAT-2 (Fer)
   5. IC-821H problems (Matthew Stevens)
   6. LOTW (Ruth)
   7. AO-7 Mode A (rsoifer1@xxx.xxxx
   8. Re: AO-7 Mode A (John Geiger)
   9. Re: AO-7 Mode A (Glen Zook)
  10. Re: AO-7 Mode A (rsoifer1@xxx.xxxx
  11. Re: AO-7 Mode A (Joe)
  12. Re: AO-7 Mode A (Glen Zook)


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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 21:06:42 +0000 (UTC)
From: GEO Badger <w3ab@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Automatic GS Tracking Satellites Software
Message-ID: <327907475.7676916.1497042402083@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

ISS, other ham birds and the APT's

___
Sent from my two way wrist watch
73 de W3AB/GEO

On Jun 9, 2017, at 13:40, Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
Yep, if the bird is below the horizon, most programs won't track it!
 Glad it's working for you.
 Are you using this for the APT satellites?
 Jim

 On 06/09/2017 08:31 PM, GEO Badger wrote:

   Found an in-view bird and it's tracking. The relays they be clicking. I
have no idea what I did. Probably because I didn't have a bird in view.
    Pedro sent me that Amsat that helps a lot. Now bookmarked   ?   Jim,
thanks for your assistance. I may be taking this to Burning Man this year.  
---?
 Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ??
 GEO ???

 http://www.w3ab.org

 Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.




      From: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
 To: GEO Badger <w3ab@xxxxx.xxx>; Pedro Converso <pconver@xxxxx.xxx>
 Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
 Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 1:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Automatic GS Tracking Satellites Software

    Oh, D'OH!
   I thought you were using SatPC32.......
   Never mind, and sorry for the confusion.....
   73, Jim

   On 06/09/2017 08:19 PM, GEO Badger wrote:

   Thanks Pedro for that site.
    I can control the rotors with the dde, but not track from the WXTrack
program.   ?   ---?
 Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side. ??
 GEO ???

 http://www.w3ab.org

 Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.

         From: Pedro Converso <pconver@xxxxx.xxx>
 To: Jim Jerzycke <kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
 Cc: GEO Badger <w3ab@xxxxx.xxx>; "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
 Sent: Friday, June 9, 2017 12:15 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] Automatic GS Tracking Satellites Software

  Perhaps worth try http://amsat.org.ar/pass.exe

 Using wispdde controls Rotor & Dopplers

 It is the executable of http://amsat.org.ar/pass.htm

 73, lu7abf, Pedro

 On Fri, Jun 9, 2017 at 4:04 PM, Jim Jerzycke < kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
 > Have you selected the tracking function in the software? You click the "R"
 > button in the upper left corner of the display screen, and if it indicates
 > "R+" it should be able to control the rotors.
 >
 >
 > And don't forget to calibrate them! I use the command line function ("DOS
 > Box") to do it, but again, I forget the name of the program I used.
 >
 >
 > Jim
 >
 >
 > On 06/09/2017 06:56 PM, GEO Badger wrote:
 >>
 >> Thanks. Been there done that.
 >>
 >> I saw that, GS232, under the CX6DD selection. No joy. I opened the DDE and
 >> am able to control the rotors remotely so I know the com port is working,
 >> but no tracking. Still pushing buttons.? -!8^)
 >> ---
 >> Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side.
 >> GEO
 >>
 >> http://www.w3ab.org
 >>
 >> Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
 >>
 >>
 >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
 >> *From:* Jim Jerzycke < kq6ea@xxxxxxx.xxx>
 >> *To:* amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
 >> *Sent:* Friday, June 9, 2017 11:41 AM
 >> *Subject:* Re: [amsat-bb] Automatic GS Tracking Satellites Software
 >>
 >> You won't.
 >>
 >>
 >> IIRC, you select the Yaesu GS-232 protocol, but it's been so long since
 >> I set mine up that I don't remember.
 >>
 >>
 >> LVB Tracker pages here: http://www.g6lvb.com/Articles/LVBTracker/
 >>
 >>
 >> 73, Jim? KQ6EA (soon to be KQ0EA in DM70mn!)
 >>
 >>
 >> On 06/09/2017 05:55 PM, GEO Badger via AMSAT-BB wrote:
 >> > I do not see the LVB tracker option in the WXtrack drop down list in
 >> > V3.8.44.1060. What am I missing? ---
 >> > Ciao baby, catch you on the flip side.
 >> > GEO
 >> >
 >> > http://www.w3ab.org < http://www.w3ab.org/>
 >> >
 >> > Time flies like an arrow, fruit flies like a banana.
 >>
 >> > _______________________________________________
 >> > Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. <mailto: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.> AMSAT-NA
makes
 >> > this open forum available
 >> > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
 >> > Opinions expressed
 >> > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
 >> > AMSAT-NA.
 >> > Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
 >> > program!
 >> > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
 >>
 >> _______________________________________________
 >> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. <mailto: AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx.> AMSAT-NA makes
 >> this open forum available
 >> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
 >> expressed
 >> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
 >> AMSAT-NA.
 >> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
 >> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
 >>
 >>
 >>
 >
 > _______________________________________________
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 > to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
 > expressed
 > are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
 > AMSAT-NA.
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 > Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb








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Message: 2
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 06:32:46 -0400
From: <n4csitwo@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: <ariss-press@xxxxx.xxx>,	<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS contact with Greater Niagara
Frontier	Council BSA, Buffalo, NY
Message-ID: <260AC6A3CD3E49BBAE37D73C2E9D2F7F@xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="iso-8859-1"

Here are the questions for today's contact with

Greater Niagara Frontier Council BSA, Buffalo, NY,  telebridge via ON4ISS
(***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be  OR4ISS (***)
The scheduled astronaut is Fyodor Yurchikhin RN3FI  (***)
Contact is a go for: Sat 2017-06-10 16:18:48 UTC 88 deg  (***)

Greater Niagara Frontier Council BSA, Buffalo, NY, telebridge via ON4ISS (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be OR4ISS (***)
The scheduled astronaut is Fyodor Yurchikhin RN3FI (***)
Contact is a go for: Sat 2017-06-10 16:18:48 UTC 88 deg (***)

Proposed questions generated by the Greater Niagara Frontier Council BSA
students:
1. What motivated you to pursue this career? Did you ever imagine being able
to go to the ISS?
2. What is the hardest thing about living on the space station?
3. Is there the possibility of expanding the ISS for a more fuel efficient
launch site for lunar or Martian missions?
4. What do you miss from Earth that you don't have in space?
5. What is the coolest weather pattern you've seen from the ISS?
6. Can you access the internet in Space?  How are you connected?
7: Recently, an experiment in growing potatoes was launched to the space
station that was designed by students from the Buffalo area.  Are you
familiar with the experiment? How is that experiment proceeding?
8. What experiment has been the most fun for you and why?
9. What was the most difficult challenge that you had to overcome to become
a cosmonaut?
10. Which area of STEM (Science, Technology, Engineering and Mathematics) do
you find most useful as a cosmonaut on the Space Station?
11. What are your daily meals like? (Are the meals from other nations
similar or different?) Do you get to trade meals with others?
12. What changes happened in your perspective of Earth when you went so far
away?
13. Scott Kelly was onboard the ISS for 340 days, what is the next increment
for time in space for Mars travel to be practical?
14. Many of the experiments done on the ISS are for scientists around the
world.  Do crew members keep up with the research projects after the
specific experiments are done?
15. In February the ISS twitter feed had a photo of a lone ship on the
ocean.  Have you ever felt like you were a like that lone ship as you work
in on the ISS?
16. Which of the experiments you are doing during your ISS mission do you
think will have an impact on my life?
17: I read that astronauts average about 6 hours of sleep a night, with a
goal or 8 hours.  Why is it hard to sleep on the space station?
18. What pictures of the Earth have you taken, and what is your favorite?
19. What would you say to young students about a career in science,
technology, engineering, or math?
20. Were you ever involved in Scouting?


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Message: 3
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 10:41:23 +0000 (UTC)
From: Fer <mhz4464@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Perry Yantis <py41@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DTUSAT-2
Message-ID: <145047043.6787959.1497091283423@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Hi Perry WB8OTH,

just checked Dtusat-2 a minutes ago and seems alive and kicking.
Here a signal screenshot, please consider I have a downconverter 916 MHz IF:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nxk189p5rgrkgb1/dtusat-2%2006jun17.jpg?dl=0??

and here some of my old decoding:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oxwl6v8s8li1rwv/dtusat-2%2029may16%20100230%20beacon
%20wf%20decoded.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fvyhf2c2udywo5f/dtusat-2%2029may16%20095822%20%20bea
con%20wf%20algo_decoded.jpg?dl=0


Hope this can be of any help.
73 Fer IW1DTU




    On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 12:31 PM, Perry Yantis <py41@xxx.xxx> wrote:


 I was wondering if this satellite is still working?I haven't used my 1269
up or 2401 equipment for years and would like to see if it still works.
?Perry WB8OTH

py41@xxx.xxx
sent from my Apple Macbook Pro
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
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Message: 4
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 11:51:56 +0000 (UTC)
From: Fer <mhz4464@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Perry Yantis <py41@xxx.xxx>, AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] DTUSAT-2
Message-ID: <1618165055.6810713.1497095517001@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

If you look at my screenshot you can see I was receiving on 1485.966+ 916 IF
downconverter=2401.97 MHz, consider than doppler shift and downconverter
error and you are around the nominal frequency of 2401.843 Mhz.?The others
screenshot with telemetry analysis where coming from cw beacon signal.
Mission is ended but you can find cw telemetry beacon decoder algorithm
here:http://www.ne.jp/asahi/hamradio/je9pel/dtusat_1.htm

Have fun with DTUsat-2Fer IW1DTU?

    On Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:58 AM, Perry Yantis <py41@xxx.xxx> wrote:


 Thanks for the information.I have uplink at 1268.900, downlink at 2401.835,
and beacon at 2401.843.I have listened up and down the frequency and have
not heard anything.I may have a problem with the?down converters but no way
to test that.That is why I have listened for it.I see on one of the pictures
you sent that you were listening to 2401.858.I will try again today around
noon when I have an overhead pass.Also I do not have the decoding program
that you have so I was wondering what you are hearing, I am guessing a data
signal???
?Perry WB8OTH

py41@xxx.xxx
sent from my Apple Macbook Pro

    On Saturday, June 10, 2017 6:41 AM, Fer <mhz4464@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:


 Hi Perry WB8OTH,

just checked Dtusat-2 a minutes ago and seems alive and kicking.
Here a signal screenshot, please consider I have a downconverter 916 MHz IF:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nxk189p5rgrkgb1/dtusat-2%2006jun17.jpg?dl=0??

and here some of my old decoding:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/oxwl6v8s8li1rwv/dtusat-2%2029may16%20100230%20beacon
%20wf%20decoded.jpg?dl=0

https://www.dropbox.com/s/fvyhf2c2udywo5f/dtusat-2%2029may16%20095822%20%20bea
con%20wf%20algo_decoded.jpg?dl=0


Hope this can be of any help.
73 Fer IW1DTU




    On Wednesday, June 7, 2017 12:31 PM, Perry Yantis <py41@xxx.xxx> wrote:


 I was wondering if this satellite is still working?I haven't used my 1269
up or 2401 equipment for years and would like to see if it still works.
?Perry WB8OTH

py41@xxx.xxx
sent from my Apple Macbook Pro
_______________________________________________
Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb








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Message: 5
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 09:33:59 -0400
From: Matthew Stevens <matthew@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] IC-821H problems
Message-ID: <EC333CCF-0915-45AC-B856-267B364475B6@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain;	charset=us-ascii

I'm having a strange issue with my 821. Periodically I lose all sensitivity,
which I've particularly noticed on 2m SSB. I can attach and detach an
antenna with no change in the noise level, and can't hear anything in the
receiver (like the XW-2* beacons, or the AO-73 telemetry). Resetting the
radio seems to fix it.

It doesn't appear to be affecting 70cm, although I haven't had much chance
to test that (there's not always a mode j sat up at the same time as a mode
b one, and when it happens I'm normally just trying to reset the radio as
fast as I can do I can operate the pass). Has anyone experienced anything
like this before?

73,

- Matthew kk4fem

Sent from my iPhone

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Message: 6
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 10:36:51 -0400
From: Ruth <ruthwillet@xxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] LOTW
Message-ID: <23E36681-148A-408A-825C-255B73B1278B@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi all,

I have finally been able to get my satellite logs from the last month and a
half or so computer logged and uploaded to LOTW. If you think you have
worked me at some point but don?t have a confirmation in LOTW, please let me
know and I?ll look into it!

73,
Ruth
KM4LAO

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Message: 7
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 15:21:35 -0400
From: rsoifer1@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A
Message-ID: <15c93745cbf-6a42-3cc0@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Mode A has always been weaker than Mode B, but with a decent 10-meter
antenna it is quite usable.  Many operators access Mode B with a 2-meter
beam of some sort, then try to hear Mode A with a dipole or ground-mounted
vertical , then complain that they cannot hear it.


There is no substitute for a good 10-meter beam.  A tri-bander usually works
too, but check the tuning to see that the SWR isn't too high at 29.5 MHz. 
If it is, you may have to re-tune it or even shorten the elements slightly. 
If you absolutely cannot put up a beam, your second choice can be a 10-meter
ground plane, elevated so it is mounted in the clear.  It has no forward
gain of course, but it will give you a low radiation angle, which will help
in hearing AO-7 when it is at low elevation which it is most of the time.



With Field Day coming up, a little attention now to your 10-meter antenna
will show up in your results later.


73 Ray W2RS


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Message: 8
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 19:29:14 +0000
From: John Geiger <af5cc2@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Ray Soifer <rsoifer1@xxx.xxx>
Cc: AMSAT BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A
Message-ID:
<CAHC1P2-SRwNKwGAZZWSmu6qJcN2BLP1d7orRuA9z1t_vKkWejA@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"

A good 10 meter antenna for the size and price is the MFJ 1890 2 element
Moxon Yagi.  It costs less than $100, and the longest element is about 12
feet long, and easy to turn with a TV rotor.  A couple of years ago I
worked 103 countries on 10 meters during the weekend of the CQWW contest,
and that was with the antenna at 16 feet high and blocked to the north by a
part of my house with steel siding on it. Probably not a worse place to put
an antenna, but it worked!

73 John AF5CC

On Sat, Jun 10, 2017 at 7:21 PM, rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB <
amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:

> Mode A has always been weaker than Mode B, but with a decent 10-meter
> antenna it is quite usable.  Many operators access Mode B with a 2-meter
> beam of some sort, then try to hear Mode A with a dipole or ground-mounted
> vertical , then complain that they cannot hear it.
>
>
> There is no substitute for a good 10-meter beam.  A tri-bander usually
> works too, but check the tuning to see that the SWR isn't too high at 29.5
> MHz.  If it is, you may have to re-tune it or even shorten the elements
> slightly.  If you absolutely cannot put up a beam, your second choice can
> be a 10-meter ground plane, elevated so it is mounted in the clear.  It has
> no forward gain of course, but it will give you a low radiation angle,
> which will help in hearing AO-7 when it is at low elevation which it is
> most of the time.
>
>
>
> With Field Day coming up, a little attention now to your 10-meter antenna
> will show up in your results later.
>
>
> 73 Ray W2RS
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
> expressed
> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
> AMSAT-NA.
> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>


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Message: 9
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 19:41:43 +0000 (UTC)
From: Glen Zook <gzook@xxxxx.xxx>
To: "rsoifer1@xxx.xxxx <rsoifer1@xxx.xxx>, 	"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A
Message-ID: <1871932588.8271073.1497123703512@xxxx.xxxxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

In the "goode olde dayes", when AO-7 was new (and also Oscar VI), I used to
use a 2-element 10-meter beam mounted below a 7-element 2-meter Yagi
elevated about 45-degrees. ?Later, added a 70 cm beam with the 2-meter beam
on an az-el mount with a TV rotor for the elevation.??Glen, K9STH?Amsat 239
/ LM 463Website: http://k9sth.net

      From: rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
 To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
 Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 2:22 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A

Mode A has always been weaker than Mode B, but with a decent 10-meter
antenna it is quite usable.? Many operators access Mode B with a 2-meter
beam of some sort, then try to hear Mode A with a dipole or ground-mounted
vertical , then complain that they cannot hear it.


There is no substitute for a good 10-meter beam.? A tri-bander usually works
too, but check the tuning to see that the SWR isn't too high at 29.5 MHz.?
If it is, you may have to re-tune it or even shorten the elements slightly.?
If you absolutely cannot put up a beam, your second choice can be a 10-meter
ground plane, elevated so it is mounted in the clear.? It has no forward
gain of course, but it will give you a low radiation angle, which will help
in hearing AO-7 when it is at low elevation which it is most of the time.



With Field Day coming up, a little attention now to your 10-meter antenna
will show up in your results later.





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Message: 10
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 16:04:29 -0400
From: rsoifer1@xxx.xxx
To: gzook@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A
Message-ID: <15c939ba3a1-6a42-3dae@xxxxxxxxxx.xxxx.xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8

Hi Glen,


I remember working you with that set-up.


73 Ray W2RS



-----Original Message-----
From: Glen Zook <gzook@xxxxx.xxx>
To: rsoifer1 <rsoifer1@xxx.xxx>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Sat, Jun 10, 2017 12:41 pm
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A



In the "goode olde dayes", when AO-7 was new (and also Oscar VI), I used to
use a 2-element 10-meter beam mounted below a 7-element 2-meter Yagi
elevated about 45-degrees.  Later, added a 70 cm beam with the 2-meter beam
on an az-el mount with a TV rotor for the elevation.


Glen, K9STH
Amsat 239 / LM 463
Website:  http://k9sth.net







 From: rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
 To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
 Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 2:22 PM
 Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A




Mode A has always been weaker than Mode B, but with a decent 10-meter
antenna it is quite usable.  Many operators access Mode B with a 2-meter
beam of some sort, then try to hear Mode A with a dipole or ground-mounted
vertical , then complain that they cannot hear it.





There is no substitute for a good 10-meter beam.  A tri-bander usually works
too, but check the tuning to see that the SWR isn't too high at 29.5 MHz. 
If it is, you may have to re-tune it or even shorten the elements slightly. 
If you absolutely cannot put up a beam, your second choice can be a 10-meter
ground plane, elevated so it is mounted in the clear.  It has no forward
gain of course, but it will give you a low radiation angle, which will help
in hearing AO-7 when it is at low elevation which it is most of the time.







With Field Day coming up, a little attention now to your 10-meter antenna
will show up in your results later.














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Message: 11
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 15:09:41 -0500
From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
To: rsoifer1@xxx.xxxx gzook@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A
Message-ID: <ee63eba0-55d7-4b17-03a8-8fc8c0401497@xxx.xxx>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed

How does it compare now to back then signal strength wise?
Joe WB9SBD
Sig
The Original Rolling Ball Clock
Idle Tyme
Idle-Tyme.com
http://www.idle-tyme.com
On 6/10/2017 3:04 PM, rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB wrote:
> Hi Glen,
>
>
> I remember working you with that set-up.
>
>
> 73 Ray W2RS
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Glen Zook <gzook@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: rsoifer1 <rsoifer1@xxx.xxx>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Sat, Jun 10, 2017 12:41 pm
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A
>
>
>
> In the "goode olde dayes", when AO-7 was new (and also Oscar VI), I used
to use a 2-element 10-meter beam mounted below a 7-element 2-meter Yagi
elevated about 45-degrees.  Later, added a 70 cm beam with the 2-meter beam
on an az-el mount with a TV rotor for the elevation.
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> Glen, K9STH
> Amsat 239 / LM 463
> Website:  http://k9sth.net
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>   From: rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>   To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>   Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 2:22 PM
>   Subject: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A
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> Mode A has always been weaker than Mode B, but with a decent 10-meter
antenna it is quite usable.  Many operators access Mode B with a 2-meter
beam of some sort, then try to hear Mode A with a dipole or ground-mounted
vertical , then complain that they cannot hear it.
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> There is no substitute for a good 10-meter beam.  A tri-bander usually
works too, but check the tuning to see that the SWR isn't too high at 29.5
MHz.  If it is, you may have to re-tune it or even shorten the elements
slightly.  If you absolutely cannot put up a beam, your second choice can be
a 10-meter ground plane, elevated so it is mounted in the clear.  It has no
forward gain of course, but it will give you a low radiation angle, which
will help in hearing AO-7 when it is at low elevation which it is most of
the time.
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> With Field Day coming up, a little attention now to your 10-meter antenna
will show up in your results later.
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Message: 12
Date: Sat, 10 Jun 2017 22:15:49 +0000 (UTC)
From: Glen Zook <gzook@xxxxx.xxx>
To: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>, "rsoifer1@xxx.xxxx <rsoifer1@xxx.xxx>,
"amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I haven't tried AO-7 for quite a while. ?Therefore, I cannot give a real
comparison.

?Glen, K9STH?
Amsat 239 / LM-463
Website: http://k9sth.net

      From: Joe <nss@xxx.xxx>
 To: rsoifer1@xxx.xxxx gzook@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
 Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 3:09 PM
 Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] AO-7 Mode A

 How does it compare now to back then signal strength wise?


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