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Today's Topics:
1. Re: ARRL Field Day (jbr13@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxxx
2. Re: ARRL Field Day (rsoifer1@xxx.xxxx
3. Re: ARRL Field Day (Paul Stoetzer)
4. Re: ARRL Field Day (rsoifer1@xxx.xxxx
5. Re: ARRL Field Day (Paul Stoetzer)
6. Re: ARRL Field Day (Matthew Stevens)
7. Re: ARRL Field Day (jim@xxxxx.xxxx
8. Re: ARRL Field Day (Paul Stoetzer)
9. AO73 Mode change (Jim Heck G3WGM)
10. Re: ARRL Field Day (Jeff Griffin)
11. Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-06-23 17:00 UTC
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:42:13 -0400
From: jbr13@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
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As a new and part time satellite guy, I do have to say last years Field
Day was a little discouraging. I tried two 13 minute SO-50 passes hear
in Maryland, and did not have chance. I usually can get on SO-50 with
little problems on my 5W HT and Arrow antenna, but FD was a different
story. I tried, and listened to both passes. I heard so many people
calling on top of each other, I could not make out a single contact
being made. I will try again this year, and see what happens. I just
really wish I had a second FT-817 to hook up to the SATPC and make
contacts easier on the non-FM birds. Good luck to all this weekend and
I hope the rain doesn't hamper our efferts.
Jason
N3YUG
On 06-23-2017 10:24 AM, Bruce wrote:
> It took awhile but ARRL came close to duplicating our rules. Those
> that wish to play satellite do not hog the FM birds as much so that
> the non-regular satellite players have at least a slight chance for a
> satellite contact.
>
> 73...bruce
>
> On 6/23/2017 9:19 AM, rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>> Jeff and Paul,
>>
>>
>> The way I read ARRL FD rule 7.3.7, each satellite is a separate
>> "band," though you can make only one QSO on each FM satellite
>> (unlimited on non-FM sats). Only one 100-point bonus, though.
>>
>>
>>
>> Look for me from WE7GV on FO-29 and possibly AO-7.
>>
>>
>> 73 Ray W2RS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> of AMSAT-NA.
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>
> --
>
> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
> AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
> AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018
> ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
> Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference
> *AMSAT*
> Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
> Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
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> http://www.arrl.org
>
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>
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:43:34 -0400
From: rsoifer1@xxx.xxx
To: kx9x@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
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What Sean says, goes. For ARRL purposes, then, all satellites are lumped
together as one band. Not for AMSAT FD, though.
73 Ray W2RS
-----Original Message-----
From: Sean K. <kx9x@xxxxx.xxx>
To: rsoifer1 <rsoifer1@xxx.xxx>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Fri, Jun 23, 2017 7:38 am
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
Hi all-
ARRL Field Day rules lump all satellites together as a single band:
"Satellite."
While you are limited to one QSO on the FM satellites, there is no limit to
the number of QSOs you can make on transponder sats.
Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X
From: rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 10:21 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
Jeff and Paul,
The way I read ARRL FD rule 7.3.7, each satellite is a separate "band,"
though you can make only one QSO on each FM satellite (unlimited on non-FM
sats). Only one 100-point bonus, though.
Look for me from WE7GV on FO-29 and possibly AO-7.
73 Ray W2RS
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:45:30 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "Sean K." <kx9x@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "rsoifer1@xxx.xxxx <rsoifer1@xxx.xxx>, "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
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Thanks for confirming my interpretation.
Determining what you can submit for AMSAT and ARRL can be a bit
confusing. For example, I made 97 QSOs on satellite last year. 8 of
those were dupes of the same station on the same satellite, 6 of those
were FM QSOs that were in excess of one FM QSO (there was an AO-85
pass early on Sunday morning where a bunch of stations were just
calling, but no one was actually making any QSOs, so I just worked
them all). So 83 QSOs counted for AMSAT Field Day. Then I had to
remove my dupes of the same station on different satellites, so I was
left with a total of 58 QSOs that were countable for ARRL Field Day.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Sean K. via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi all-
> ARRL Field Day rules lump all satellites together as a single band:
"Satellite."
> While you are limited to one QSO on the FM satellites, there is no limit
to the number of QSOs you can make on transponder sats. Sean Kutzko Amateur
Radio KX9X
>
> From: rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 10:21 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
>
> Jeff and Paul,
>
>
> The way I read ARRL FD rule 7.3.7, each satellite is a separate "band,"
though you can make only one QSO on each FM satellite (unlimited on non-FM
sats). Only one 100-point bonus, though.
>
>
>
> Look for me from WE7GV on FO-29 and possibly AO-7.
>
>
> 73 Ray W2RS
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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>
>
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 10:52:12 -0400
From: rsoifer1@xxx.xxx
To: n8hm@xxxx.xxxx kx9x@xxxxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
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What Sean says, goes, but as you say, Paul, the language of the ARRL rules
is confusing:
"You do not receive an additional bonus for contacting different satellites,
though theadditional QSOs may be counted for QSO credit."
I can read that either way, so I suggest that the ARRL rule be reworded next
year to eliminate the ambiguity.
73 Ray W2RS
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Sean K. <kx9x@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: rsoifer1 <rsoifer1@xxx.xxx>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Fri, Jun 23, 2017 7:45 am
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
Thanks for confirming my interpretation.
Determining what you can submit for AMSAT and ARRL can be a bit
confusing. For example, I made 97 QSOs on satellite last year. 8 of
those were dupes of the same station on the same satellite, 6 of those
were FM QSOs that were in excess of one FM QSO (there was an AO-85
pass early on Sunday morning where a bunch of stations were just
calling, but no one was actually making any QSOs, so I just worked
them all). So 83 QSOs counted for AMSAT Field Day. Then I had to
remove my dupes of the same station on different satellites, so I was
left with a total of 58 QSOs that were countable for ARRL Field Day.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Sean K. via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> Hi all-
> ARRL Field Day rules lump all satellites together as a single band:
"Satellite."
> While you are limited to one QSO on the FM satellites, there is no limit
to the number of QSOs you can make on transponder sats. Sean Kutzko Amateur
Radio KX9X
>
> From: rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 10:21 AM
> Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
>
> Jeff and Paul,
>
>
> The way I read ARRL FD rule 7.3.7, each satellite is a separate "band,"
though you can make only one QSO on each FM satellite (unlimited on non-FM
sats). Only one 100-point bonus, though.
>
>
>
> Look for me from WE7GV on FO-29 and possibly AO-7.
>
>
> 73 Ray W2RS
>
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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AMSAT-NA.
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>
>
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> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership. Opinions
expressed
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 11:06:37 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: Jason Rearick <jbr13@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
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A QSO on SO-50 or AO-85 should be easy on the coasts. Work passes
under 10 degrees that cover mostly ocean. My SO-50 QSO on Field Day
2014 from here in DC was on a 5 degree pass out over the Atlantic.
There were only a couple of stations on and making my one QSO was a
piece of cake.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 10:42 AM, <jbr13@xx.xxxxxxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> As a new and part time satellite guy, I do have to say last years Field Day
> was a little discouraging. I tried two 13 minute SO-50 passes hear in
> Maryland, and did not have chance. I usually can get on SO-50 with little
> problems on my 5W HT and Arrow antenna, but FD was a different story. I
> tried, and listened to both passes. I heard so many people calling on top of
> each other, I could not make out a single contact being made. I will try
> again this year, and see what happens. I just really wish I had a second
> FT-817 to hook up to the SATPC and make contacts easier on the non-FM birds.
> Good luck to all this weekend and I hope the rain doesn't hamper our
> efferts.
>
>
> Jason
> N3YUG
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 06-23-2017 10:24 AM, Bruce wrote:
>>
>> It took awhile but ARRL came close to duplicating our rules. Those
>> that wish to play satellite do not hog the FM birds as much so that
>> the non-regular satellite players have at least a slight chance for a
>> satellite contact.
>>
>> 73...bruce
>>
>> On 6/23/2017 9:19 AM, rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB wrote:
>>>
>>> Jeff and Paul,
>>>
>>>
>>> The way I read ARRL FD rule 7.3.7, each satellite is a separate "band,"
>>> though you can make only one QSO on each FM satellite (unlimited on non-FM
>>> sats). Only one 100-point bonus, though.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Look for me from WE7GV on FO-29 and possibly AO-7.
>>>
>>>
>>> 73 Ray W2RS
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
>>> Opinions expressed
>>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
>>> AMSAT-NA.
>>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite
>>> program!
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>>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Bruce Paige, KK5DO
>> AMSAT Director Contests and Awards
>> AMSAT Board Member 2016-2018
>> ARRL Awards Field Checker (WAS, 5BWAS, VUCC), VE
>> Houston AMSAT Net - Wed 0100z on Echolink - Conference *AMSAT*
>> Also live streaming MP3 at http://www.amsatnet.com
>> Podcast at http://www.amsatnet.com/podcast.xml or iTunes
>> Latest satellite news on the ARRL Audio News
>> http://www.arrl.org
>>
>> AMSAT on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/amsat
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>
> _______________________________________________
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> expressed
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 11:14:59 -0400
From: Matthew Stevens <matthew@xxxxxxxxx.xxx>
To: rsoifer1@xxx.xxx
Cc: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>, Sean K
<kx9x@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
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Could maybe be a little clearer, but I understood it to mean all sats
count as one band:
Section 7.3.7 - .....Satellite QSOs also count for regular QSO credit.
Show them listed separately on the summary sheet ***as a separate
"band.***"
73,
- Matthew kk4fem
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 10:52 AM, rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB
<amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
> What Sean says, goes, but as you say, Paul, the language of the ARRL rules
is confusing:
>
>
> "You do not receive an additional bonus for contacting different
satellites, though theadditional QSOs may be counted for QSO credit."
>
>
>
> I can read that either way, so I suggest that the ARRL rule be reworded
next year to eliminate the ambiguity.
>
>
> 73 Ray W2RS
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
> To: Sean K. <kx9x@xxxxx.xxx>
> Cc: rsoifer1 <rsoifer1@xxx.xxx>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
> Sent: Fri, Jun 23, 2017 7:45 am
> Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
>
> Thanks for confirming my interpretation.
>
> Determining what you can submit for AMSAT and ARRL can be a bit
> confusing. For example, I made 97 QSOs on satellite last year. 8 of
> those were dupes of the same station on the same satellite, 6 of those
> were FM QSOs that were in excess of one FM QSO (there was an AO-85
> pass early on Sunday morning where a bunch of stations were just
> calling, but no one was actually making any QSOs, so I just worked
> them all). So 83 QSOs counted for AMSAT Field Day. Then I had to
> remove my dupes of the same station on different satellites, so I was
> left with a total of 58 QSOs that were countable for ARRL Field Day.
>
> 73,
>
> Paul, N8HM
>
> On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 10:38 AM, Sean K. via AMSAT-BB
> <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>> Hi all-
>> ARRL Field Day rules lump all satellites together as a single band:
"Satellite."
>> While you are limited to one QSO on the FM satellites, there is no limit
to the number of QSOs you can make on transponder sats. Sean Kutzko Amateur
Radio KX9X
>>
>> From: rsoifer1--- via AMSAT-BB <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
>> To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
>> Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 10:21 AM
>> Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
>>
>> Jeff and Paul,
>>
>>
>> The way I read ARRL FD rule 7.3.7, each satellite is a separate "band,"
though you can make only one QSO on each FM satellite (unlimited on non-FM
sats). Only one 100-point bonus, though.
>>
>>
>>
>> Look for me from WE7GV on FO-29 and possibly AO-7.
>>
>>
>> 73 Ray W2RS
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> Sent via AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx. AMSAT-NA makes this open forum available
>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
Opinions expressed
>> are solely those of the author, and do not reflect the official views of
AMSAT-NA.
>> Not an AMSAT-NA member? Join now to support the amateur satellite program!
>> Subscription settings: http://www.amsat.org/mailman/listinfo/amsat-bb
>>
>>
>>
>> _______________________________________________
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>> to all interested persons worldwide without requiring membership.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 08:27:52 -0700 (PDT)
From: "jim@xxxxx.xxxx <jim@xxxxx.xxx>
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
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Ray - W2RS said (in part):
> "You do not receive an additional bonus for contacting different
satellites, though theadditional QSOs may be counted for QSO credit."
> I can read that either way, so I suggest that the ARRL rule be reworded
next year to eliminate the ambiguity.
What is confusing about that? You get the 100 point bonus for making a
single satellite contact. Additional contacts via satellite do NOT net you
an additional 100 point bonus. Additional contacts DO count for your QSO
count (unless prohibited by rule 7.3.7.1). Read section 7 of the Field Day
rules and in particular section 7.3 and it's quite self explanatory.
[ http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2017/2-2017%20Rules-1a.pdf ](
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2017/2-2017%20Rules-1a.pdf )
73
-----
Jim Walls - K6CCC
jim@xxxxx.xxx
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 11:44:01 -0400
From: Paul Stoetzer <n8hm@xxxx.xxx>
To: "jim@xxxxx.xxxx <jim@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: "amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxxx <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
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The issue isn't about the contacts counting, the issue is what
constitutes a dupe. Under AMSAT rules, working the same station on
different satellites does not result in a dupe. Under ARRL rules,
working the same station on different satellites results in a dupe
since "satellite" is a single band.
The way that is worded does not make that entirely clear.
73,
Paul, N8HM
On Fri, Jun 23, 2017 at 11:27 AM, jim@xxxxx.xxx <jim@xxxxx.xxx> wrote:
>
> Ray - W2RS said (in part):
>
>> "You do not receive an additional bonus for contacting different
satellites, though theadditional QSOs may be counted for QSO credit."
>
>
>> I can read that either way, so I suggest that the ARRL rule be reworded
next year to eliminate the ambiguity.
>
>
>
>
> What is confusing about that? You get the 100 point bonus for making a
single satellite contact. Additional contacts via satellite do NOT net you
an additional 100 point bonus. Additional contacts DO count for your QSO
count (unless prohibited by rule 7.3.7.1). Read section 7 of the Field Day
rules and in particular section 7.3 and it's quite self explanatory.
> [ http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2017/2-2017%20Rules-1a.pdf ](
http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Field-Day/2017/2-2017%20Rules-1a.pdf )
>
>
>
> 73
> -----
> Jim Walls - K6CCC
> jim@xxxxx.xxx
>
> _______________________________________________
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Message: 9
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 17:58:06 +0100
From: "Jim Heck G3WGM" <jimlist@xxxx.xxx>
To: "AMSAT" <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Cc: funcube@xxxxxxxxxxx.xx.xx
Subject: [amsat-bb] AO73 Mode change
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Hi folks,
AO73/FUNcube is now in amateur mode for the weekend with the transponder on!
Please see below for all FUNcube mission info
73s Jim G3WGM and the FUNcube team.
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FUNcube frequencies and other details
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AO-73 FUNcube-1
The transponder is normally operational only when the satellite is in
eclipse, ie the solar panels are NOT being illuminated. During weekends
(from pm Fridays UTC to PM Sundays UTC) the transponder is operational 24/7.
When the transponder is switched off, the telemetry beacon is on full power,
when the transponder is on the beacon it is on low power. During holidays,
eg Christmas, New Year, Easter, etc, the transponder maybe activated for
extended periods. Watch AMSAT-BB for announcements which are usually made on
Friday evenings (UTC)
The nominal transponder frequencies are:
Uplink: 435.150 - 435.130 MHz LSB (Inverting)
Downlink: 145.950 - 145.970 MHz USB
Telemetry Tx: 145.935 MHz BPSK
(The passband may be up to 15kHz higher depending on on-board temps. Lower
temperatures give higher freqs!)
FUNcube-2 (aka FUNcube on UKube)
The FUNcube-2 sub-system continues to operate autonomously and, almost
continuously, in amateur mode. The transponder is operational and the
telemetry downlink is functioning with about 70mW output. The FUNcube-1
Dashboard does not correctly display the telemetry but it does correctly
decode the data and uploads it to the FUNcube Data Warehouse from where it
can be examined. Most of the real time data channels are operational and
these include battery voltages, temperatures and ADCS data coming via the
main On Board Computer (OBC).
The transponder is interrupted for a few seconds every 2 minutes when the
other transmitter sends its CW beacon and, occasionally, for a few seconds
when the main OBC reboots (approx seven times each orbit).
The nominal transponder frequencies are:
Uplink: 435.080 - 435.060 MHz LSB (Inverting)
Downlink: 145.930 - 145.950 MHz USB
Telemetry Tx: 145.915 MHz BPSK
(The passband may be up to 10kHz higher depending on on-board temps. Low
temperatures give higher freqs!)
EO79 FUNcube-3
Due to power budget constraints the transponder cannot be operational 24/7
and an orbit specific schedule has been developed. The transponder will
commence operation 27 minutes after the spacecraft enters sunlight and will
stay on for a period of 25 minutes. This schedule may be modified in future
months as a result of experience.
The nominal transponder frequencies are:
Uplink: 435.0723-435.0473 MHz LSB (Inverting)
Downlink: 145.946-145.971 MHz USB
Further detailed info on EO79 transponder frequencies is at:
https://amsat-uk.org/2016/11/10/eo79-funcube-3-transponder-commences-regular-o
peration/
EO88/Nayif-1/FUNcube-5
EO88 is presently operating in autonomous mode. The transponder is
operational when the satellite is in eclipse, ie the solar panels are NOT
being illuminated.
When the transponder is switched off, the telemetry beacon is on full power,
when the transponder is on the beacon it is on low power.
The transponder frequencies are:
Uplink: 435.045 ? 435.015 MHz LSB (inverting)
Downlink: 145.960-145.990 MHz USB
Telemetry Tx: 145.940MHz
All FUNcube transponders are sponsored by AMSAT-UK and AMSAT-NL. We are very
grateful for the assistance given by Innovative Solution In Space Bv, The
Netherlands.
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Message: 10
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 13:55:27 -0400
From: "Jeff Griffin" <kb2m@xxxx.xxx>
To: "'AMSAT-BB'" <AMSAT-BB@xxxxx.xxx>
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
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As I always interpreted the ARRL FD sat rules. Before I turn my sat log in
to the club for FD I remove any duplicate calls. If I worked W2RS on AO-27,
AO-10, and AO-40 I would submit only one contact....
73 Jeff kb2m
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via AMSAT-BB
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 10:44 AM
To: kx9x@xxxxx.xxxx amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
What Sean says, goes. For ARRL purposes, then, all satellites are lumped
together as one band. Not for AMSAT FD, though.
73 Ray W2RS
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From: Sean K. <kx9x@xxxxx.xxx>
To: rsoifer1 <rsoifer1@xxx.xxx>; amsat-bb <amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx>
Sent: Fri, Jun 23, 2017 7:38 am
Subject: Re: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
Hi all-
ARRL Field Day rules lump all satellites together as a single band:
"Satellite."
While you are limited to one QSO on the FM satellites, there is no limit to
the number of QSOs you can make on transponder sats.
Sean Kutzko Amateur Radio KX9X
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To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 10:21 AM
Subject: [amsat-bb] ARRL Field Day
Jeff and Paul,
The way I read ARRL FD rule 7.3.7, each satellite is a separate "band,"
though you can make only one QSO on each FM satellite (unlimited on non-FM
sats). Only one 100-point bonus, though.
Look for me from WE7GV on FO-29 and possibly AO-7.
73 Ray W2RS
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Message: 11
Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 13:57:40 -0400
From: AJ9N@xxx.xxx
To: amsat-bb@xxxxx.xxx
Subject: [amsat-bb] Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-06-23
17:00 UTC
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Upcoming ARISS Contact Schedule as of 2017-06-23 17:00 UTC
Quick list of scheduled contacts and events:
Ufa, Russia, direct via TBD
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Fyodor Yurchikhin RN3FI
Contact was successful Fri 2017-06-23 08:25 UTC (***)
SCaN/Glenn Research Center, Brook Park, OH, and the Girl Scouts of North
East Ohio direct via NA8SA
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be NA1SS
The scheduled astronaut is Jack Fischer K2FSH (***)
Contact was successful: Fri 2017-06-23 14:25:09 UTC 70 deg (***)
International Summer Camp with children from Republic of Bashkortostan,
Ufa, Russia (***)
The ISS callsign is presently scheduled to be RS?ISS
The scheduled astronaut is Fyodor Yurchikhin RN3FI
Contact is a go for 2017-07-03 07:40 UTC
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ARISS is always glad to receive listener reports for the above contacts.
ARISS thanks everyone in advance for their assistance. Feel free to send
your reports to aj9n@xxxxx.xxx or aj9n@xxx.xxx.
Listen for the ISS on the downlink of 145.8? MHz.
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All ARISS contacts are made via the Kenwood radio unless otherwise noted.
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***
Several of you have sent me emails asking about the RAC ARISS website and
not being able to get in. That has now been changed to
http://www.ariss.org/
Note that there are links to other ARISS websites from this site.
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Looking for something new to do? How about receiving DATV from the ISS?
If interested, then please go to the ARISS-EU website for complete
details. Look for the buttons indicating Ham Video.
http://www.ariss-eu.org/
If you need some assistance, ARISS mentor Kerry N6IZW, might be able to
provide some insight. Contact Kerry at kbanke@xxxxxxxxx.xxx
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ARISS congratulations the following mentors who have now mentored over 100
schools:
Satoshi 7M3TJZ with 123
Gaston ON4WF with 123
Francesco IK?WGF with 119
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The webpages listed below were all reviewed for accuracy. Out of date
webpages were removed and new ones have been added. If there are
additional
ARISS websites I need to know about, please let me know.
Note, all times are approximate. It is recommended that you do your own
orbital prediction or start listening about 10 minutes before the listed
time.
All dates and times listed follow International Standard ISO 8601 date and
time format YYYY-MM-DD HH:MM:SS
The complete schedule page has been updated as of 2017-06-23 17:00 UTC.
(***)
Here you will find a listing of all scheduled school contacts, and
questions, other ISS related websites, IRLP and Echolink websites, and
instructions for any contact that may be streamed live.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.txt
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school events is 1147. (***)
Each school counts as 1 event.
Total number of ARISS ISS to earth school contacts is 1106. (***)
Each contact may have multiple schools sharing the same time slot.
Total number of ARISS supported terrestrial contacts is 47.
A complete year by year breakdown of the contacts may be found in the
file.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/arissnews.rtf
Please feel free to contact me if more detailed statistics are needed.
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The following US states and entities have never had an ARISS contact:
Arkansas, Delaware, South Dakota, Wyoming, American Samoa, Guam, Northern
Marianas Islands, and the Virgin Islands.
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QSL information may be found at:
http://www.ariss.org/qsl-cards.html
ISS callsigns: DP?ISS, IR?ISS, NA1SS, OR4ISS, RS?ISS
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The successful school list has been updated as of 2017-06-23 17:00 UTC.
(***)
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/Successful_ARISS_schools.rtf
Frequency chart for packet, voice, and crossband repeater modes showing
Doppler correction as of 2005-07-29 04:00 UTC
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ISS_frequencies_and_Doppler_correction
.rtf
Listing of ARISS related magazine articles as of 2006-07-10 03:30 UTC.
http://www.amsat.org/amsat/ariss/news/ARISS_magazine_articles.rtf
Check out the Zoho reports of the ARISS contacts
https://reports.zoho.com/ZDBDataSheetView.cc?DBID=412218000000020415
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Exp. 50 on orbit
Peggy Whitson
Exp. 51 on orbit
Jack Fischer K2FSH
Fyodor Yurchikhin RN3FI
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73,
Charlie Sufana AJ9N
One of the ARISS operation team mentors
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